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"PS. I do not gamble, but if I did, you would lose that bet. Unless you were talking about me having tried drugs that is."

:D that's exactly what I was talking about.

I don't totally disagree with you. There come a point when you have to draw the line. I haven't spoken to my mother in 4 years now. I'm sure the next phone call from my sister will tell me she has passed. Long gone are the times when I expected she could be normal/healthy/clean again. I love her, but I have cut myself off from her lifestyle. My emotional responce to your staement may very well by guilt manifesting inself in me. I will appologize for this in advance.
I guess the callus remark was pointing at the way you practically lable these "human beings" as despensable druggies. The fact is, with minute adjustments in your history, you could have easily been in anyone of these people's shoes. Would you embrace such an iron clad view if it was directed in your direction?
I am definitely more socialist then liberal or democratic. I believe that we are all equal for the most part, and I believe that society should serve a greater purpose. We need to support each other. Instead of refusing to help people, how about forcing them into rehab? That's right. Conditional sentence. Force them into a locked padded room. Force them to go to school; force them to take counsiling; force them to love themselves again.
We are humans. We are not perfect creatures. We need each other.

I think it's silly to say that marijuana isn't bad for you, or the health risks are minimal, or people didn't know that smoking was bad for them. You're breathing fire and smoke into your lungs, which are meant for air. :P

hehehehe oh man thats wrong!!! :D :D

I like a night of drinking, hate cigarettes, marajuhana makes me crazy then very very deperessed and I havent tried anything harder than that.

The thing I dont like about drugs is the power they have to completly ruin lives and the lives of those around them.
Its the one thing that makes me see through the temporary highs and see the long term lows.
At my age I dont want to f**k up my life and not be able to experience things that would want to.

... Oh man, I sound like my parents!! :wall:
Well theres a bug party on saterday so I might read a book or something to make up for the briancells I plan to loose! :bye:

Q:What's the difference between a drunk-driver and a stoned driver?
A:The drunk driver runs the stop sign, and the stoner waits for it to turn green.

In all seriousness though, there is no excuse for impaired driving;however, I am willing to bet here that far fewer people kill others driving on weed then on alcohol.
About the danger of cigarettes vs weed. Cigarettes, being legal, are open to big business. I brought this up before and no one seems to have touched on it so I'll state it again. There is a huge market for cigarretes, as there is weed, but the main difference is that the big guys can openly and blatently market their product to all ages and demographics. Just look at all the different types of smokes out there. There are smokes for everyone from the chain-smoking nervous wreck, to the casual social smoker, to the person trying their damnest to quit. There are ever "clean" smoking technologies in the works. There is gum, there are patches, there's ever chewing tabacco. Cigarettes are socially thought of as sexy and appealing. Sure some of you may refute this by saying you don't think so, but I assure you it is a cold hard fact. I have witnessed it in my own experience. This is why I am for "de-criminalizing" weed, but it is most definitely a bad idea to totally legalize it.

Actually, it was in the paper just a few days ago that here in QLD Australia, there are 5 times more drivers high on illegal drugs than drunk drivers. The article didn't say anything about accidents tho....
Actually, in more and more places, advertising tobacco and alcoholic beverages is illegal.

Is this the stupid tests where they take saliva samples?

Wasn't that proven unrelieble when they found traces of it in someone who hadn't taken any drugs for 4 or so months?

Very true. It is illegal in Aus.
They even took of alchoholic lollypops because they apeal to kids. LOL

They tried doing random drug driving tests but some of them failed so they removed them completly. Its not a bad idea, drug driving is practically just as dangerous.

@Scarecrow: most drug test can detect marajuhana in your system for about 5 months.

That's the problem isn't it?

If they detect it they believe you are under the influence when you could have taken it a month ago.

Other drugs, like cocaine, can clear out of your system within 24 hours. That's the problem with these drugs, some people who aren't under the influence are caught but tohers slip through the net.

Yes, and with other small changes in history I could be the richest guy on Earth. So what? If, IF IF, they are all hypothetical to me :-p Would I see things the same way? Since IF is the question, I can say, maybe!

BTW, I never said that drug addicts are anything less than the rest of humans.

Ah, you are a socialist, that explains your comments near the end then. No, I am not in favour of holding people prisoners because that is "good" for them. I am not against a "good" society and people helping each other if they want to. But it is their damn right to not give a damn about anyone if they want to. And it is their birth right to die from drugs if they want to. It is not your or anyone else's right to hold them and force them to follow a particular life style, even if that means they may die, or not, sooner.
Then again I am a liberal (not in the stupid and totaly mistaken way some conservatives in the USA call the democrats there) and definetely pro capitalism, so take that as you wish.