Homossexual people can be considered phisically disabled too. They're gay in the first place because their brains create the wrong hormone.


I understand your point of view, even though I don't agree with it. There'll always be weird people (gay or not) and weird stories about parents (gay or not). You're taking the side where you wouldn't like the children to be harmed. The problem here, is that the kid wouldn't be harmed because his parents would be gay. He would be harmed because the society says it's wrong to have 2 gay parents. Should we change the parents, or should we change the society?

This is SO FRIGGIN SWEET!!! It became legal in Canada recently, too. That is so awesome!!

I think that gay people should be allowed to get married, and that they should be allowed to adopt. Like it has been mentioned before, kids of mixed races, religion, you name it have been bullied through the ages. Hell, red-haired women were burnt alive!! Things change.
Here in Iceland, gay people can be in a confirmed cohabitation. That means they get pretty much the same rights as straight married couples. But they can't adopt someone elses child.
But lets say that there's this gay couple. Two girl. One of them gets pregnant in a natural way, then her girlfriend (if they are in a confirmed cohabitation) can adopt the baby as her own. Same goes with men, if the father has full custody.
I think that they SHOULD be allowed to adopt other babies, it makes no difference. Especially if the kid is young when adopted.

I don't see homosexual people as disabled, it's just the matter of choice.

I can understand your point as well. But it's just that I have opinion that gay parents having children mustn't be classified as common in the future. But that's just me.

Anyone can make decisions about their own lives and do as they please, but cannot risk well-being of one innocent child.

Homosexuality is a mental disorder that occurs in men and women. By permitting homosexual marriage, society permits these disorders to be accepted as normal, while on the other hand no government permits disorders like kleptomania. Why not? As it stands, homosexuality poses no threat to anyone who doesn't practice it, so that's why secular countries are pushing for the right for the homosexuals to marry. If homosexuality was as bad as kleptomania, you can bet no one would want to support it.

Nevertheless, treating kleptomania and not treating homosexuality is hypocrisy. The medical community seeks cures for MS, autism, and a myriad of other mental disorders, but not homosexuality. If a person hallucinates and sees a telephone pole in his room (for instance) the general idea is to make that person aware that the pole is really not there. By permitting gay marriage, it is the same as telling the person that there IS a telephone pole when there really isn't one.

Most Homosexual males are compelled to practice anal sex with their partners, a practice that is potentially dangerous over time, whether or not "safe" sex practices are utilized. Experts agree that the anus is not a vagina, and is meant as a conduit for things leaving the body, not entering or both. Many people claim that lubricants and relaxation of the anus can prevent harm, but this is a falsehood. If homosexuality compells people to do things to each other that are harmful, then what is so natural about it?

And lesbians; why should they get married? All they do is just feel each other up. What's so natural about that?

Homosexuality is not a choice according to homosexuals. It is the same thing children go through around the age of 13 when they start noticing the other sex, except that they notice their own sex.

and as i have already said, the first mixed race children had there well being compromised. by your kind of arguement those parents should not have had that child becuse its "well being" was being compromised. in fact you could say by your arguement that if they find the *gay gene* parents should be allowed to abort that child becuse of the descrimination it could face. kids rip on each other. its what they do. i dont see how the childs *well being* will be worst than that of a gay child, or a geek child, or a minority child. (remeber there are still racist places on this earth we are far from being globally tolerent)

sorry to double post here admins, but i just noticed this one. jeeesus wept. ok right heres the difference. kleptomania is in general a phsychological condition. homosexuals generally have different brains!! ie if you are going to define it as a *condition* it is a physicall condition not a psychologicall one. so what do you suggest? brain surgery????
seriosly. also saying it is unatural just totally explains away the bisexuality of monkeys then doesnt it.

they're close to legalising it in Canada as well , so if it makes them happy , why not?!?

Well, it's just that I make difference between gay marriages and ''regular'' ones, therefore I cannot compare gay parents' children with children from mixed race or minority heterosexual marriages.

But I respect your opinion and can say that you have point in one way. I just think that allowing adopting would be too much.

:ot: - Nevertheless, it's so good to FINALLY see some well-argumented discussion without interruptions, rows or insults. We haven't had reasonable change of opinions for a long time in 3xblah subforum.

Yes, this way just passed in our legislature(canada) like two days ago.
I think it should be classified as a civial union. Marrage was, and still is a religious ceremony, and is done before God. Now this is a can of worms, but this element of the question is critical. If you believe in the bible, you can't be gay. It is just a matter of fact and I'm sorry for any religious homosexual catholics out there, but you can't honestly tell me or anyone else differently.
I think consenting adults should be allowed to do what they want, and if two people decide to live and co-exist together in a relationship they deserve rights. Now how many rights they get depends on weather they have children, and this is another big issue.
Tax breaks are there to develop and strengthen families. This being said, I don't believe that Homosexual couples should have the ability to adopt children, therefore I don't think they should get all the rights that a usual marrage does, and like I stated before I think it should be called a cival union and not a marrage.
Hopefully I've stated my opinion here curteously and not offended anyone, it is just my oppinion and I by no means look down on anyone reading this that may be Gay.

sorry to double post here admins, but i just noticed this one. jeeesus wept. ok right heres the difference. kleptomania is in general a phsychological condition. homosexuals generally have different brains!! ie if you are going to define it as a *condition* it is a physicall condition not a psychologicall one. so what do you suggest? brain surgery????
seriosly. also saying it is unatural just totally explains away the bisexuality of monkeys then doesnt it. [/b][/quote]
I suggest rehabilitation. Homosexuality has to be a psychological condition because there are no physical factors that influence it, but rather homosexuality influences physical actions as well as mental. If it wasn't a psychological condition, homosexuals would be homosexual by choice. Bisexuality is only a lesser stage of homosexuality.

I also like how you bring monkeys into this issue; are you saying that monkeys and other mammals are incapable of having mental disorders just like humans? If so, wouldn't that mean that humans are in fact almost inferior to our fellow mammals?