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kylerl2788 06-06-2009 04:38 AM

help!
 
someone help! i have dosbox and i have downloaded the game but i cant figure out how to get the game to open using it! i have windows vista, thats why i downloaded dosbox. anyone able to help??

zirkoni 06-06-2009 07:23 AM

DOSBox beginner's guide:
http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?&t=14406
"war.exe" starts te game.

WildKarrde 05-07-2009 04:53 PM

Such an amazing game! People give C&C too much credit in my opinion. WarCraft was the true trend setter for RTS games.

Scatty 05-07-2009 08:00 PM

Well C&C was also just inspired by Dune II.

The Fifth Horseman 06-07-2009 06:52 AM

...and it's not like Dune 2 was 100% original either.

another_guest 06-07-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 374168)
...and it's not like Dune 2 was 100% original either.

Even if we're in a Warcraft topic, what were the predecessors of Dune 2? I know there are some (so I'm not doubting your comment ;)) but I have no idea which RTS games were earlier than Dune 2, it was the first one I ever played.

The Fifth Horseman 06-07-2009 03:43 PM

To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

another_guest 07-07-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 374267)
To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

Thanks! Those names do ring a bell but only because I've seen them before on Abandonia :)
Back to Warcraft, the second and third never held the same "magic" for me as the very first one, in spite of the clear innovations they brought

Scatty 07-07-2009 10:12 PM

Yes I agree there, the first Warcraft was different than the following two parts in a way, it has a special stern atmosphere that Warcraft II and III don't, imo.

red_avatar 08-07-2009 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman (Post 374267)
To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

To be fair though, Dune 2 was the first to combine all sorts of ideas into a single game: different units for different factions, a base to build + defenses, resources to gather, factories to make units & vehicles, map-based territory, etc.

Warcraft actually didn't change much about this - despite Blizzard having a lot of fans, they really mostly just took other people's ideas, changed them a little, and made a killing. Blizzard's success lies in polishing up existing formulas - WoW ripped off Everquest for like 80% for example, credit which is rarely given sadly enough.

In any case, Warcraft is a good game but it still had all the weaknesses Dune 2 had: where Dune 2 used slabs, Warcraft used roads. Warcaft's interface was rigid and slow too, you could only select one unit at a time, the story was rather simple and only divulged between missions, etc. In fact, in several places, it was a step backwards.


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