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It's an addictive chemical that alters thought patterns and behaviour patterns. It's a drug :P

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Originally posted by Evad@Dec 4 2005, 12:38 AM
I've tried alcohol, acid, pot, mushrooms and cocaine(blow not crack). Out of all of these, I prefer pot, and think it has the least amout of negative side-effects.
The issue on drugs is a bit of a quagmire, because some people can use and not abuse, while others are prone to addiction. I found all of the "hard drugs" I tried to be highly over rated, and way too expensive to be of any practical use. I guess I'm lucky I never got addicted to any of them. The LSD(acid) was just bizzare, and I really didn't enjoy it at all. The mushrooms made me incredibly sick, and ruined my NY2k. The coke just made me really hyper.Alcohol has a real Dr jeckle effect on me so I have learned to moderate myself to a maximum of 2 drinks an hour tops. This leaves lastly but not leastly, pot, which helped me overcome numerous physical injuries. This drug was really a necessary crutch for me, although, I have seen the effects of cronic use in some of my friends. The whole stepping stone drug thing never sat with me either. It's like saying that watching sports on T.V leads to cronic gambling. Not everyone who watches sports on T.V bets on them, just as not all pot smokers feel the need to escalate towards harder drugs. I know I am absolutely content where I am(which is ironically one of the main issues against pot as it supposedly causes people to be "too" content and strive less.) I think that we have enough guilt bred into our societies.

Yea, Hallucinogens (Shrooms, LSD) lend to some pretty screwed up experiences.

I prefer straight speed to coke though.

I think alcohol is a drug. For some reason it's separated from other drugs...I guess because it's legal :whistle:

EDIT: Well, cigarettes are legal, and people here (in California) can get medicinal marijuana legally, but you get the point :P

The 12 step program was first developed for Alcoholics, how can anyone argue that it is not a drug. Cigarettes are as well. I'd go as far to say that they are both the worst drugs because big business have their little claws dug deep into both, and have an huge marketing strategy dedicated to them. This is why I'm all for de-criminalizing pot, but am hesitant about straigh out legalisation.

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Originally posted by BeefontheBone@Dec 3 2005, 07:50 PM
A implies B is very much not the same as B implies A.

It's a well-known, documented logically fallacy known as post hoc ergo propter hoc. Anti-drug propaganda is *dirty word* ridiculous and while I'm not a particularly big fan of any illicit drugs (simply as a matter of personal taste, rather than any sort of moral aversion), the route by which the political right in the US has chosen to conduct their "war on drugs" exudes moral imposition moreso than any sort of rational attempt at social improvement.

Go back to the beginnings of most drug legislation in the U.S. (which has traditionally been the catalyst for anti-drug regulation in the rest of the world) and you'll discover that it's rooted in racism and bigotry. Marijuana was actually criminalized primarily in an attempt to curb poor, illegal Mexican immigrants around the turn of the 20th century. Cocaine was similarly criminalized based upon the propagation of the stereotype that only blacks, beatniks, and criminals used it.

Yes, most laws concerning drug use only have the actual drug use as a small faction of their true interests.

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Originally posted by Nikson@Dec 4 2005, 01:09 AM
It's an addictive chemical that alters thought patterns and behaviour patterns. It's a drug :P

Are you referring to the alcool?

Well, drinking just a glass of wine doesn't alter the behaviour patterns of a medium person... while the illegal drugs do it...

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A implies B is very much not the same as B implies A.

The government propaganda could be illogic and stupid (you know, they are used to the election campaigns...), but (and I'm talking about me) if i were using pot, maybe sometime it could came to me the curiousity to try something "stronger"...

totally depends on what effects you're looking for. Every drug gives one a different feeling, and many people just stick to pot throughout their lives, even though they may experiment.

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Originally posted by Quintopotere+Dec 4 2005, 07:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Quintopotere @ Dec 4 2005, 07:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Nikson@Dec 4 2005, 01:09 AM
It's an addictive chemical that alters thought patterns and behaviour patterns. It's a drug :P

Are you referring to the alcool?

Well, drinking just a glass of wine doesn't alter the behaviour patterns of a medium person... while the illegal drugs do it...[/b][/quote]
And taking just a couple of puffs from a joint doesn't have a noticeable effect either.
Effects of different doses have nothing to do with whether it's classified as a drug or not. Ethilic alcohol (or ethanol) is an addictive substance. That's why there are alcoholics. It is very much a drug, but it just so happens to be legal.

Just think how many lives has alcohol ruined, how many crimes hapenned while someone was alcoholised, now look at cannabis, it can ruin you if you use it too much, but so can alcohol, but if you use cannabis, you sure won't be doing any crimes under it's effect...

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and I'm talking about me) if i were using pot, maybe sometime it could came to me the curiousity to try something "stronger"...

Never got to you that those who used H, started with alcohol, so why is it legal...
The point is that if marijuana were legal you wouldn't be under the influence of drug dealers, and there are believe me so many people who used cannabis at least several time in their life but never touched any of the harder stuff(probably more than those who became real drug addicts, sorry dude but you've been blinded by the propaganda...