Daggerfall is Arena 2 (actually arena is TES1 and Daggerfall is TES2)
anyway, the reason I ahven't mentioned daggerfall is because i never played it.
I only played Arena because it was put up for download free at the main site.
Daggerall is, supposedly, the best TES game.
It is still a generated world, however the important cities all have a different feel to them (unique buildings)
also from now on guilds were included (thieves guild, mages guild) where you could take quests from.
i once read the entire story of daggerfall and was downright confused, the ammount of plottwists were nearly too hard to comprehend.
Not to mention the insane political ties between royal families, and the fights inside each royal family.

You could say Daggerfall was the original TES sicne it created the entire history of the world (mainly because it contained books and much, much more dialogue)

Daggerfall was only released in USA, never in Europe, therefore it is almost unknown in Europe.
@Stroggy - yes, you may be right, 2 hours are almost nothing, but that was enough for me. After 2 hours of playing Gothic though I didn't stop playing it, I continued until it was time to go to bed....
Gothic is just much more user-friendly than Morrowind and still manages to be very interesting, but, as I said, everybody prefers his own kinds of games, and I prefer Gothic 1 and 2 all over Morrowind, not only, but at large part because of the conversations there which are so natural and often funny, I've never seen conversations been natural and convincingly like that in any other games.

did you play gothic in german?
I played it in English... sometimes I couldn't stop laughing at the mistakes made, kinda ruined the atmosphere for me.

anyway I really do suggest you give morrowind another try, with the mods perhaps.
Its really a game to get hooked on.

Hmm, well, then I guess I'll get 2 months free time and try Morrowind again (little scared of the size of the game-world there... 8) ).
Yes, I played both Gothics in German, and I heard too that English version's dialogues were not that good translated.
I just wished you would be able to play German Gothic through and understand all the dialogues there, I'm sure you would then get completely new insight to the game because of them.

:shock: :shock:
*Slaps him* :D

You should try it if you like Arena or Morrowind :wink:

A friend of mine is going to give me his german version of gothic 1 in august, I'll judge then.

And as for daggerfall: I've tried and tried to get a hold of a version but so far all effort were unssucesfull :cry:

:blink: :wacko: :blink:

Yes i thought the bow was useless, and it does take soooooo
long :whistle: to get experience at times .....and you get killed
without knowing why, I wanted to like morrowind because I liked
arena, back when i first played them, i just downloaded arena again
thanks to the 10th anniversary issue, that was nice :D

now i will have to see if i can find get a copy of morrowind after that
:ok: