If you can find Brotherhood of Steel for under $20 go for it if you are a fan of Fallout and don't mind more a dungeon crawl experience. The real-time combat seems to fit right in...coupled with the fact that you can be a horribly disfigured ghoul who regenerates HP while standing in radioactive puddles is another definate plus!

I'd recommend fallout tactics to any fan of fallout 1-2. It's got a great storyline and the incredible perk system is just as good as before.

I will be the first to cough out blood if Bethesda makes it like a FPS view like Oblivion. There is no place for that view in an RPG-franchise except their own stupid game of course. How man RPGs you see actually with a crosshair right at the center? Gothic? well they flop! so who bothers. OMG the though of that totally freaks me out.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(cremz @ Feb 15 2007, 05:33 AM) [snapback]279290[/snapback]</div>Ultima Underworld, System shock, Arx Fatalis?

Mmm, you know, this thread was dead for a long time now. Moderators don't like this kind of resurrection...

Anyway, I have Fallout I and II, but I don't seem to be able to run them properly in WinXP. I know there are lots of solutions to this around the net, but rigth now I'm too lazy to try them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(velik_m @ Feb 15 2007, 07:31 AM) [snapback]279299[/snapback]</div>Ultima Underworld, System shock, Arx Fatalis?
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Yeap, I have never bother about those. The only one I've ever played with this style is Morrowind but that was because my friend pulled me in. I'm glad he did cause I'm the one that will skip any RPG games with an FPS style even if has a 10.0 rating.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tito @ Feb 15 2007, 10:04 AM) [snapback]279312[/snapback]</div>I am playing Fallout 1 atm, and it works fine with my PC on WinXP. Btw, I'm doing min install thats about 4.5MB I think and running the game on a disc image file. Playing it while waiting for Jade Empire.

A bit narrowminded, isn't it?
"This game has X so it has to be horrible."

Moreover it's both unfounded and self-justifying at the same time; There's no room for refutation at all.

Well, in order to get immerse into the storyline, its still need to get a lot of feel. For all I care, if the combats not good I can forget about playing. I have a copy of Arx Fatalis but thats because I get it in a bargain bin (unopened and collecting dust). I just won't pay full retail price to play and I'm currently regretting it with Oblivion.

FYI, in medieval style RPG, there is no such thing as a crosshair to get your aiming right when casting spells or when using a sword for example. Its all about front-facing the mob. Spell penetration and the ability to hit (hit%), dodge, evade that increases as you level and should be the thing that decides whether you hit or not. Its all about gaining experience in battle using what a char is most familiar in. In the end the advantages shows as they level. Crosshair only exist in rocket launchers, SMG, rifle, etc. The way Fallout did against targeted mobs is PERFECT and fits an RPG style, you level, you get better, simple. I would cursed Bethesda for all eternity if targeting a head in Fallout 3 means using the crosshair to target the head.

Oh yeah something additional. In Oblivion, you can have a bow and arrow aimed at a citizens head and only standing an inch away from you (while looking at you)..and you can missed that!

just started playing again :P playing with patch 1.32 (TeamX) with the children restored since i have the uk version. one thing i can't find is the movie files. and a little tidbit of useless information: the guy who voices the intro (i.e the "war never changes" lines) is Ron Perlman (same person that played hellboy in the movie)

Man, I love this game....is it just me or do all these new (although rare) attempts at creating a fresh post-apocalyptic game seem to provide much less fun than these great oldies? I mean, I'd take Fallout or Wasteland any day over whatever 3D Bethesda-type oh-my-look-at-me-i'm-all-full-of-shiny-grafics hollow and soulless stuff they keep pumping out.... :angry: