So, hi.
I know that many of you have played great games like Jazz Jackrabbit and One must fall(the best fighting game on computer ever)
But the sad thing is that you can't really get them from anywhere(except from some "warez" sites) So my friend got an idea of trying to get those legendary games released as freeware.
The petition for this is in http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/Epicfreeware
please sign up and spread wordof it if you like Epic megaGames games.
The goal is 10 000 signs and we have 3, so everyones signature is important!

OOC: I wasn't really sure if this is a right place for this...
OOC2: worth stickying?

Well... many of them are already abandonware, if you google a little you can find them to download and One must fall is already at abandonia.

Meh. I'm not sure I agree with this. A petition to say "abandon your unabandoned games" just seems to go against the definition of "abandon." I mean, they're still selling them.

Now if you had a petition to say that they need to release their games in some format easily playable and tested on modern systems or release them as freeware, then I'd sign that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(guesst @ Jul 31 2006, 09:26 PM) [snapback]246162[/snapback]</div>
Yeah, I mean I have to agree, if the company is actually still selling/supporting their games, they DID develop it afterall, they can still sell them. Even though it goes against the abandonware code, what pisses me off is when game companies (like Sierra) abandon their games entirely, offer no support, no longer sell them, don't even aknowledge their existence on their website, yet because they are part of the ESA and/or some obscure guy somewhere still has 3 copies for sale, they're not considered abandonware. It's this mentality that can make some games become extinct, I don't understand the reasoning behind it if the company is literally making no profit off of the old game.

The only thing more pathetic than petitions are internet petitions.

Erm... Why would it goes against Abandonware? By this site definition anyways, we actually want companies to sell their games.

It's simple: Abandonware been created to make sure old games are not abandoned and forgotten. If a company still supports his old games and still sell them, then this goal been achieved.

As soon as the companies will stop supporting and sell their games again, we'll change the flag on the download screen and give the game freely again. Before that, it would be warez and against both the law and the Abandonware rules. :)

Why not making a petition that asks the companies to sell some of there older jewels?
Just a suggestion. But it might do more than asking them to give their games away for free....

Does anyone else see the irony in asking a company to release a product for free by demonstrating the potential market size?

Yeah, that too.

Well actually: a good idea for a company would be to release the old games as a free download from their website and then create new games in the same series or remakes of the old games and sell them. That way interest in a game is revived and then there is a good market to sell the games. Demonstrating a good market for a game is always good for the gamer. Heck they might make us pay for the games, but at least they'll be available. In that tone, sign the petition. (PS: I still believe old games should be available for free, but well. each to his own)

Ooooo they made Seek & Destroy. Too bad $15 is way to much for that game. I'll just find it somehow and not pay a cent!

Epic Games

• Abandoned Games

• (9)
  • Adventures of Robbo, The
  • Ancients 1: Deathwatch
  • Brix
  • Highway Hunter
  • Jazz Jackrabbit 2
  • Super ZZT
  • Zargon
  • Zone 66
  • ZZT
• Freeware Games (4)
  • Castle of the Winds
  • Jazz Jackrabbit: Holiday Hare '94
  • Jazz Jackrabbit: Holiday Hare '95
  • One Must Fall 2097
• Sold Games (13)
  • Electro Man
  • Epic Pinball
  • Heartlight
  • Jazz Jackrabbit
  • Jazz Jackrabbit CD-ROM
  • Jill of the Jungle
  • Jill of the Jungle 2: Jill Goes Underground
  • Jill of the Jungle 3: Jil Saves the Prince
  • Kiloblaster
  • Overkill
  • Seek and Destroy
  • Solar Winds: Galaxy
  • Solar Winds: The Escape

There is no way that Epic will release their Sold games by a petition, due to the point above. People signing a petition shows how many wants the games, that are available for sale. After a while some of them will get so desperate that they will buy the games.

And there is no reason to make a petition about One Must Fall, as that is already freeware.

All in all, the only titles you can try to influence them to release are the games that go under the definition of abandonware. 9 games in total.

I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but Epic is a bad company to begin with. All of their games are available, either as AW, Freeware or Sold.

It would be much better to start a petition against companies like Bethesda, Eutechnyx and Team 17 - as they protect all of their games, regardless of age, status and whatnots. It doesn't matter that they don't sell or support their games, they actively fight sites that hosts their games, no matter what. So all of their games will in the end disappear entirely from the scene.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(STFM @ Aug 11 2006, 02:59 AM) [snapback]247853[/snapback]</div>Exactly, so let's massively not sign the petition, perhaps it works. :sneaky: