As an anti pode to the 10 greatest.

I thought it would be interesting (?) to see what games you played where you wished you could put the programmers/designers up against the wall.

If you don't come up with 10, ok. Just smash up the ones you detest, loathe, hate or strongly dislike.

Mine (in no particular order):

Medal Of Honor Allied Assault: What an over rated heap of linear trash! Who gives a rats donkey about the D-day when you're stuck in a linear trigger based obstacle course. Geez!

Star Wars Empire At War: Tried one campaign. THis has got to be one of the most over hyped games of all time. "Campaign" = build units in a flippin hurry and smash your enemy. That's all! Nothing whatsoever to distinguish it from heaps of other rts games.

Vietnam Black Ops 2: One of THE worst fps around. AI is non-existent, weapons look like they're from Toys'R'Us, a super hero that can't fall down from a crate without breaking a bone, totally unbelievably lame comments... The list goes on and on and on...

Every skate board/bmx game ever released. Period.

Every Sport Team Manager game ever released, with "Fussball Forever" on top. That game didn't even manage to get the teams' names right.

Summer Games/Winter Games (C64): Offered nothing whatsoever in terms of fun game play or true challenges, except the one that was to cry for a new joystick.

Indy Car 500: Round and round it goes. BOOOORIIIING!

X: After you play for an 15 minutes, you arrive at your first trading station to buy a "speed the game up to playable" upgrade. Then it's all about a weak, silly plot that dissolves and leaves you floating in space, wondering why the HECK you bothered. Btw: X:Tension is actually quite fun, since you can have multiple ships stationed around for you to jump into. And since a trader behaves MUCH different from a fighter in this game, you can actually manage to "believe" in the game.

LoTR (the new ones): GAH! Mario Bro's gone Middle Earth. "And so Frodo and Co. went forth towards the Enemy to collect fruit, mushrooms and whatever the Enemy couldn't care less about"... Just a sorry game. And it re-defines linearity.

Loom: Sorry, I know I'm pogoing in a minefield, blind folded and with a hornets' nest on my head. But the game is just so incredibly lame. "Play the flute", ok, "play the flute again", ok, "play the..", OK ALREADY!

I ahte you....
You don't like petroglyph...
Petroglyph was ones westwood!
GaH!
Someone - Ion Cannon EA!

"The Sims"

Who in their right mind would release such a heaping pile of unplayable, utterly boring, completely useless garbage? Pay twenty dollars to get a job, pay for a house, and work? No thanks.


"Star Fox: Assault"

Unbelievable. Shigeru Myamoto actually found a way to discourage his fans, this horribly mediocre game is all Nintendo's fault, you can't blame the other two companies, they made Resident Evil 4! It takes true mediocrity to make me dislike a Star Fox game...but here it is, mediocrity in it's purest form...stay away.

Oh, and praise to Mighty Midget for starting this topic, I forsee several interesting conversations in our future...

Sims (need I say more?),
GTA:SA (was really doing the same stuff like in any other of their games and was more boring then other GTA's.).

Srry, all I could think of right now :).

Microsoft Word: by far the worst game i ever played. No sound or music, no story whatsoever and graphics suck too - it's almost completly textual.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(velik_m @ Sep 16 2006, 12:19 PM) [snapback]255313[/snapback]</div>LOL - almost?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(velik_m @ Sep 16 2006, 09:19 AM) [snapback]255313[/snapback]</div>Yeah, but you forget that that is pen&paper game in electronic form.

The thing I hate about playing Words, is that the game constantly says "no, I don't think you meant to do that. Therefor I'll do this instead for you. No, no, no need to thank me"

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Sep 16 2006, 09:44 AM) [snapback]255325[/snapback]</div>Yeah, or [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] when you [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] try [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] to write some [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] thing it gives these [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] annoying [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO] messages [the language pack haven't been installed, do you wan't to do this? YES / NO].

Okay, back on topic.

Reactionary: I liked X (but the sequels were better) and Empire at War.

Star Control 3 - Biggest let down of all time. On the plus side if it weren't for SC3 I would have never learned about the brilliance that is Fred Ford and Paul Reiche III.

Headz - Good concept, kinda, but lacks in gameplay.

Transformer's Beast Wars - Clunker to play than Altered Beast.

(X-Com like game written by Tom Clancy) - I can't remember the name. But I was so excited to support X-Com like games that I bought this at full retail. Gameplay was okay, but the linear storyline skipped around. Unles you read the book it made no sense.

That's all I can think of right now.

I forgot to mention the worst of all - RuneScape.
Anyone who plays that is a f*cking ---------.

Wow you guys have bad taste. Some of those games are fantastic.

Yay! I'm the only non-jaded gamer.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Sep 16 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]255437[/snapback]</div>So you like Runescape?! :huh: That'd be like "OMFG"... LOL

No that sucks.

But something about San Andreas tells me that those 674 hours the stats menu gives me didn't go wasted into a game that "sucks".

I agree, pigggy, san andreas rocks! Space rangers 2, that game sucks.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Sep 16 2006, 10:14 PM) [snapback]255448[/snapback]</div>Let me think... hmm... GTA:SA differences from GTA:3 - Umm... not that much? BTW the ultimate GTA WAS GTA3. Without no stuinking little bonus crap, it rocked the house with one of the best chars ever made (the player). GTA:SA is so Pyder Diddy, that I dropped playing the sissy negro from SA months ago.
Just my opinion, I am entitled to it y'know. :)

UFO: Aftermath
Master of Orion III
One Must Fall: Battleground
Heroes of Might and Magic III (or was it the IV? I forget)

But the most boring game of all times: Superpowers. :tai:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(troop18546 @ Sep 16 2006, 05:48 PM) [snapback]255478[/snapback]</div>Let me think... hmm... GTA:SA differences from GTA:3 - Umm... not that much? BTW the ultimate GTA WAS GTA3. Without no stuinking little bonus crap, it rocked the house with one of the best chars ever made (the player). GTA:SA is so Pyder Diddy, that I dropped playing the sissy negro from SA months ago.
Just my opinion, I am entitled to it y'know. :)
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Racist.

San Andreas was SO much better than all the other games, really. I can't go back to any of the other games, I mean, no swimming? No stats? No customization? No vehicle modding? No buying houses? (only gaining them from missions) No open areas? No manual aim? No fighting styles? No dual wield? No sneaking? No bicycles? No mission variety? No tangible story with feeling characters?

Hell, even the soundtrack is better.
Seriously, how can you put a game like SA on the block without throwing flack at stuff like True Crime: New York City?

It's virtually impossible for ANY Grand Theft Auto fan to return back to the older games, there's just so much stuff that makes SA better.

^you will have to change back when you're parents see you play SA...

They already have.

Why should they care? I watched Scarface with my dad, it's not like he's going to freak out over SA.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eagle of Fire @ Sep 17 2006, 12:56 AM) [snapback]255482[/snapback]</div>HOMM3???
One of the best strategy games I've ever played.
Check if you don't mean IV instead of it. :huh:
HOMM3: The Shadow of Death was one of the best games ever made, imo.

Worst game of all time?

Black and White was pretty crappy
Sonic 3D So awful we don't install it anymore
Zoo tycoon 2, Really bad

I can't think of any others, But i'm sure there are more!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Sep 16 2006, 03:20 AM) [snapback]255204[/snapback]</div>STFU n00b

I'll kill you anyday.

I agree that Runescape sucks, and I agree with pigggy that GTA:SA rocks like mad. Back on topic though - KKND:Krossfire springs to mind right now - mediocre gameplay, no storyline, no variation between the different sides (they all have exact equivalents of each other's troops and no special units) and on top of that, it's a complete C&C clone.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(chainsoar @ Sep 17 2006, 06:26 PM) [snapback]255603[/snapback]</div>I wasn't saying that SA was that bad, but it has gone monotonic from seeing the same graphics, cars (there are the new one's that rock, but the names? O_o?), the plot (pretty much the same, but we're black - wow) and stuff like that. But the most annoying stuff in it is probably the missions where u gotta ride from one end of the world to another - the car gets damaged and explodes at the last corner and the npc which you had to drive all the way there then explodes cause he barely moves his a55 in iminent danger. Utter crap.

@Pigggy

Racist? :huh:

How was the story the same at all?

GTA 3 had you as an ex-convict working his way back up in the world.
Vice City has you coming back from a long hiatus and trying to repay your debt to your boss for all the money/crack you lost.

And San Andreas had you leaving Liberty City to come back to find out what happened with your now deceased mother, and it has a much more "personal" story than the others (it's not just "OH CRAP IT'S BUSINESS" stuff)

Black and whire (1) is good from evil side...
Black and white 2 is bad... not horrible though...
HOMM 3 was really good! Simple editor and easy to use editor also allowed to have MORE fun!

I thought the Black & White games were pretty good, especially number 2.

Grand Turismo all of them

Alright, i'm going to be absolutely blunt about this. This is the most boring, pointless, worthless, unentertaining, poorly designed, realistic racing game ever made.

Every single one starts out with you supposedly going from "nothing" (a tiny car that looks like it's going really slow) to "everything" (some Japanese race car that looks like it's going really slow, but the speedometer says '200'). There's nothing to gain, nothing to live for, and nothing to justify the license tests. Period.

Wow dude, lol.
I love that racing series to death. :P

Every hentai game ever. I don't know how any of the pathetic, lonely perverts here think they even APPROACH anything remotely resembling entertaining, playable, or even their attempted purpose, erotic.

This is really turning into a stupid thread. Why don't we rename it to "which kind of game do you hate" instead? It would much more relate to the thread and what been posted in it...

Well, go 'head then, you're the one with the power! ^_^

Actually, I don't. But it's not the point.

Everybody dislike a type of game in particular. I could not care less about adventure games myself... But that's why I also don't talk about them because then I would be talking about something I know nothing about. For a game to be considered as one of the crapiest game of all time, there must be several reasons. Not only "I dislike the game entirely, so it must be crappy".

Someone who don't like and thus almost never play 4X games can't really say that MOO3 is one of the crapiest game of all time, for example. On the same train of thought, playing a certain genre and finding one of those games to be boring because of a personnal point of view is not better either.

For example, I liked Black and White tough I never got to play the second part. And I always play Good because I find the Evil side pathetic. Grand Turismo is the best game ever for people who's life is dedicated to custom cars. Someone saying that all Hentai games without exception are crap definitly didn't play a lot of them and been unlucky enough to play the worse of them at the beginning. And so on, and so on...

I fully agree with Eof- it serves no purpose to just say "game sucks 'cause I don't like arcade games and it's the most popular arcade game right now/ever" or some such rant. So can we agree on a couple of basic rules?

1) You must have played the game yourself and for a reasonable length of time.
2) There must be a reason Game 'X' is lousy compared to other games of the same sort.

This should kill the "I hate (sports, hentai, adventure, etc) games in general"-sort of complaint.

Robocop FPS game (had a demo a while back). Man, that STINKS!!!
And not just the graphics (bad enough as they are), but also the entire gameplay. And that's from a die-hard Robocop fan.

I think my reasons for hating your sex cartoon games are quite valid.

Indeed...

And I don't insult games unless I actually know what i'm insulting in the first place anyway...

Celebrity Deathmatch on PSX.

Just horrible. There are no real secret characters, gameplay sucks, sticky fighting...

Pitfall

It was released for every console at the beginning of the 90ies and every version was :wallbash:

Notion: In my book, games are all about entertainment. If a game fails to entertain, for whatever reason, the game is a failure: It sucks. It's like watching the news, judging it as a French art movie. As a French art movie the news broadcast fails miserably. I don't need to compare a given broadcast to any other news broadcast, simply because, by judging every one of them as French art movies, they all fail in entertaining me. This said: I think it's valid to say "this game sux, period!" if it fails to give you anything you want of a game.

I was about to tear to pieces Mafia, but now that I accept the story/plot, I have to admit that even if it's one of them "trigger based obstacle courses" that I generally detest, I find the story so nicely told that I will give the game "accepted plus". I accept that it isn't a "game" as I would like it, but rather a movie, and it's entertaining. That's all I need :)

I thought Mafia was better than the best GTA when it didn't frustrate you to all hell, unfortunatly, that game was so *dirty word* hard, the only time it wasn't difficult as hell was when you free roaming, even then, cops would start plugging you for taking your gun out in public.

Frustrating? It's pisses me off like no other game LOL but I will continue, just to see the ending.

Mafia's great. Personally I never figured out why people thought it to be -that- hard. Be creative, and don't always take the obvious road :)

I still consider anything Davilex to be the crappiest X ever (X being utility, game or whatever program you can think of).

Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance was a total letdown for me...i'd take MKII over it any day!

Navy Seals is pretty bad (not the Nintendo one, the Valusoft one) it's fun to play but it has a big bug so you cannot finish the game, also now and again you can walk through walls!!! Also the enemies run around like little ninnies sometimes.

Ethnic Cleansing.

You know, because extreme white trash parents aren't a bad enough influence on their kids. :tai:

There's a game similair to Ethnic Cleansing but it involves killing innocent Americans (including women and children) there are a few military personell you have to kill, but mostly it's just gross and disgusting murder.

OMG! :blink: That is a crappy game, by concept. But still, I like the idea of non-political correct games, just for the hell of it :tomato: It's only that this game actually managed to go way too far, by having a serious agenda.

But I'd like a game where you are a German heavy machine gunner on Omaha beach, just to counter MoHAA. Or worse... Bwahaha.

Or a North korean soldier during the korean war...

Or playing the other side in Delta Force Black hawk down.

I actually made some very good missions (a campaign of 5 missions) for Delta force 2, involved vehicles, helicopter transport, airpower etc... and they were all to be played on russian side during cold war. :D

so the enemy had black hawks, and you had Mi-16 and such. it was quite interesting except that i couldn't get the voices to be ehm "american"... so the story was then set in areas with CIA supported warlords and commanders (such as in afghanistan).

unfortunatelly i deleted them after i mistakenly thought that i already burned them on CD. so they are lost now :(

but yeah some games that are "politically non-correct" (whatever that means in democracy) are fun. while others are not really interesting from a "normal" person's perspective.

Politically incorrect games are pretty fun, but what bothers me about this one is that a lot of KKK/neo nazi families use it to groom their children. They don't just sit their kids down and say, "Hey, you know what would be fun? Hating Jews."- they use what appeals to them.

I've also played a game before where you play Dylan and Eric, the Columbine kids. ANYway. Final Fantasy 9 kinda sucked, too. Just sayin'.

I actually thought FFIX was quite good...

And speaking of controversial and racist games, I downloaded a racist version of Wolf3D...it's pretty offensive...

Offensiveness by itself is ok, but if there is a more sinister agenda behind, then I'd say "UH-OH! I don't think so...". It can be offensive as anything if it's just for a laugh. Bad taste sure, but to tell the truth, I was offended by "America's Army".

There are so many dull, repetitive, object-oriented adventure games and RTS clones out there--not too mention the RPGs with little to explore, nothing to interact with, and braindead AI. But worst...? That's a challenge.

Maybe "Where's Fat Lou?" I reviewed this Italian import when it first showed up, probably about 5 years ago. The graphics were at least a decade out of sync, and the gameplay consisted of nothing but unoriginal mini-games and a few other "whoops, wrong door, you're dead" selections. In fact, it was so poorly received by the press, that all efforts to export it were subsequently dropped.

Big Rigs

The game is so bad if you do a google search for "worst game ever" that site I just linked is the first result.

If you ever see this game in stores you should demand that they pay you to take it off their hands, although beware, it's entirely possible the karma you receive for owning the game will kill you in short order.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SwiftSpear @ Oct 6 2006, 02:41 PM) [snapback]259770[/snapback]</div>I think we've got a winner. :cheers:

Man, that game is apparently so bad it should be put in a museum. :hairpull:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SwiftSpear @ Oct 6 2006, 12:41 PM) [snapback]259770[/snapback]</div>the trully disturbing thing about this game is this little fact from wikipedia:

also check their site: http://www.stellarstone.com/company.html (doesn't look updated since 2003)

LOL

Hmm OK let me think:

1. American Conquest, Fight Back
Ugly, stupid AI not to talk about your own units, they are even more stupid than ore collectors in Command and Conquer.

2. Theme Park World
I never felt so betrayed, I was hoping for a better Theme park an all I got was a lousy comicgame.

3. Everything that has to do with the Moorhuhn
Sometimes I think that people are too stupid, paying for a game that once was freeware. :wallbash:

4. Shipsimulator 2006
Where the f*ck is the 7000 TEU Containervessel I dreamed of?

5. Commander Keen
Yes I hate it, honestly.

6. Command and Conquer 3
Stupid collectors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Some bad games of note:

Big Rigs: Over The Road Racing.

Just.. wow. You can drive through buildings, infinitely accelerate in reverse (and then stop on a dime when you let go of the button), and in the unpatched version the opposing drivers never moved off the starting line. Not to mention the fact that hills have no effect on acceleration, you can drive up near vertical mountains and off the edge of the world, you fall through bridges...

The Scroll

Slightly lesser-known game. I actually still have this on CD. It's probably abandonware actually. Not that you would want it up here.

Basically this was a point and click adventure type game, set in Egypt, where you are an archaeologist or something trying to uncover some mystery. It has a novel inventory management system. Basically, if you drop an object on a screen, it will stay there until you go and pick it up again. However, since the screens are simply static picture backgrounds, you can drop items in mid-air, on the ceiling, on people's heads, and they'll just sit there.

The graphics are also not very good. And the game is just.. mind numbing.

Frank Herbert's Dune

This game was based on the 'Frank Herbert's Dune' mini tv series. It's an action/adventure type game set in the world of Dune, where you control the main character, Paul Atreides.

Sounds great so far. But then you play it.

The controls are just... I don't know who came up with this but they are a joke. You can't even change the direction your character is looking. There are scenes in which you are running towards the camera and have no idea what is in front of you. The bad camera and shocking controls kill this game. It actually might have been ok otherwise.

BTW

C&C3 isn't out yet...

worst game ever? ohh, i know look here :hysterical:

Half-Life: Anthology - Pathetic. This is so cravenly stupid that I can't even stand it. I've never actually gotten to play the damn thing, and that in itself is it. Valve lie about the system requirements on the box, I wouldn't be surprised if they copied them directly from the old version of HL. It might be a good game, but I won't ever know, I spent twenty dollars on a lie.

Talking about stupid? After beating Hitman CN 47, and re-playing it it stands out like Boy George at a Klan rally (yes, you are absolutely right): The AI is non-existent to such a degree it becomes a laughing riot. "Hmmm, who's that whitey awfully mis-disguised as my pal", thought the Chinese guy, "sneaking up towards me face to face, then sneaking around me? I wonder if he's in a playful mood"... The missing driver noone gives a rats donkey about, dialogues designed for one particular line of events failing when you play along a different one... the extremly ill-conceived idea that this top notch hitman is utterly unable to climb a 5 inch ledge... The Chinese Words of Wisdom that would make Winnie the Poo gawk in disbelief... The "fact" that noone is capable of carrying in their pockets a bullet without also having the weapon. Then of course there is the plot, or lack of such. What connects the scenarios? A mentioning that the bad guys were mercenaries is not extactly a strong-as-steel connection. And finally it all collapses into the absurd; finally waving the "plot" bye-bye.

Really? Because I quite like Contracts...

Blood Money is even worse.
You'd have someone chasing you, and the instant you go into a building they act as if you were never there and then they walk away.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gufu1992 @ Oct 7 2006, 10:09 PM) [snapback]259987[/snapback]</div>I meant Tiberian sun

Vib-Ribbon gets my vote.
The grapics suck as its just a white line on a black background, so as you can imagine it limits the gameplay.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Radbod @ Oct 9 2006, 09:35 AM) [snapback]260227[/snapback]</div>I meant Tiberian sun
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Tiberian Sun is the best C&C game!
and harvy's - although not as armored as in RA are faster!
beside - they give tactical advantage!

I can normally find something redeeming about most games (although I never tried that Big Rigs Game), but there are two that were just inexcusably awful:

Hegemonia (PC):
Space-borne real time strategy game. I found it awfully, awfully slow placed (even for a strategy game), and the controls interface to be clunky. I just couldn't play it, for fear of dying of bordem.

Star Trek: Starship Creator (PC):
Good idea. Woefully limited execution. Aside from the fact that the missions were boring, you got very little freedom in designing your ship.
You could pick different hull configurations and you could... uhm... and... okay that's all you could do. Seriously, there was a limit to the 'number' of each thing that you could put into the ship. Since that's an awfully unclear sentence I'll exemplify:

1. You could have a max of 10 or so science Labs.
2. You could have 300 photon torpedoes.
etc.

That's understandable because of limited space aboard a ship, but the problem was that even if you didn't max every system out, you couldn't fill the empty space with other stuff, ie. you couldn't leave out 5 science labs and use the space to have an extra 50 torpedoes. It just remained as empty space on board the ship.
If they weren't able to/prepared to develop the game so that you could, they really should've left it until they were going to do that.

Finally, an honourbale mention

Ghost in the Shell: StandAlone Complex (PS2):
This game isn't bad when you play it first. It's a decent third person shooter. Then you finish it and discover that it has no replayability value at all. And then you realise that there's considerably more scope for better game based on this series first-time around to.
Cyber hacking is a non-event, and there's not nearly enough political intrigue, and problem solving considering what it's based on. It's not one that you think "God, why did I pay money for this!?" But it's damned close.

I will not agree with Haegemonia though. Like many Sci-fi space strategies out there this one is slow as well. However I like it that way, makes sense since space is vast and even if you shrink it a lot still travelling takes time and lot of time, which is why they're slow. Oh and you should know that Haegemonia have different speed settings, you can completely freeze time or make it go really fast so that your ships will travel amost lightspeeds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Iowa @ Oct 8 2006, 11:43 PM) [snapback]260146[/snapback]</div>It's really great I have to say. Contracts has a lot of cool stuff, graphics and the soundtrack kicks...

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Treewyrm @ Oct 9 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]260290[/snapback]</div>Haegemonia only does what Homeworld does and less, you can get the original HM and still get more play out of it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Blood-Pigggy @ Oct 9 2006, 09:45 PM) [snapback]260299[/snapback]</div>Not really. I had fun playing both of them. Do you think that only original games should exist and be played? There would be very few games at all. Sometimes clones do have interesting features in their attempt (most of the time futile but that's another story) to become better than original game that they try to copy. And if I had not enough of Homeworld why not to play something similar, right? That's where this game come up and it does well. That's how I discovered very intersting games despite that they were said to be "just a clone of game N".

No, I only wish they'd be more original, I had fun with Nox despite that it was a Diablo knock-off, Haegemonia on the other hand, had stuff missing that made it too hard for the average gamer to navigate its weird interface.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Radbod @ Oct 7 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]259923[/snapback]</div>That's just not allowed. NO. Commander Keen will zap you. Damn heathen.

Dude, he's right, CK is not a good game at all...I have had no fun playing it.

That's because it's one damned old game, I played it in the early 90s and back then it was tight.

Hmm...what did it have to offer that was new?

smooth scrolling on pc.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Oct 8 2006, 07:47 PM) [snapback]260136[/snapback]</div>Well it has the plot. the badguys you are killing are actually your biological fathers, while the last one is the "genious" behind your creation. but otherwise you are quite right.
plus once you figure out the missions they are extremely easy. hitman 1 had some huge levels but nothing much of them was useful. in fact oyu probably didnt' even see most of the level. not to mention the odd mission in Columbia where you had large choice of weaponary at disposal but you could actually only take ak-47, cause with other weapons they would notice you are not one of them.

oh and what's with that rotterdam nuke mission?!?! i mean you can't pass the guards even in uniform. and that happens with the uniform that should offer the most disguise of them all since it includes a gas mask. DUH!

and what's with the training area? it has a good shooting range but that's about it.

i must say i was a bit dissapointed by the series, still you can at least do some unnecessary killing. especially in the Budapest hotel. :max:
as for the contracts, yes the options you have are better, the graphics is better but leveles are mostly same or similar. still not too bad. but again, what's with the weird training area? you never knwo when you finished the training.

On Hitman CN 47
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Oct 10 2006, 03:33 PM) [snapback]260440[/snapback]</div>Actually, I thought Colombia was kind of sweet :) There is a ton of fun with a sniper rifle and some 70 bullets. Take double or tripple, or (once) quadrupple headshot :brain: and you don't need the stinkin AK47 :D Beside, the M-16 is way better at long range. The M-60? A Big Baby's dream. And I never had problems (I think) with any weapon, except the sniper rifle at the last mission there.... Oh, and giving El Grande Boss the head ache of his life time, before he knew I was there... sweet! But the rest of the game? Weeeeeeeeeeell.

For me, I'm going to have to sadly say Dreamfall (the second installment of The Longest Journey.)
Never before have I been so let down by the ending of a game. What made it sting all the more was that I really loved the Longest Journey, and actually loved the process of playing Dreamfall. But the "ending" (because there really wasn't any resolution) was painfully incomplete, with two dead main characters, and one that seemed to be stuck in there for no reason (the Alvane guy.)
Now, I understand that the ending was meant to be more of an opening for what I assume will become the third installment - but geeze, can't a girl get a little satisfaction at the end of a hard won adventure?!

Dear Gods, Mr. Tounquist better not go bankrupt or give up before the third installment is complete, if there is actually one - or I'm going to be really cranky ;)

Hitman: codename 47 is almost as good as Hitman: silent assassin but it loses to the sa by it's quite thin storyline and unbelieveably hardcore difficulty. cn 47 could be much more enjoyable if it had it's 7saves per level. I managed to play to rotterdam nuke mission until I just had to give up. It was too much for my patience and If I wasn't a hitman fan I wouldn't have played even that far. I cheated and tried out the other missions that were even easier than the rotterdam nuke mission.

I still haven't tried out blood money. Possibly because of it's still-high-prize. I tend to buy games at discount. I truly hope, that if they make yet another hitman game, they leave america and return to more exotic places.

America? They happen in Hong Kong, Netherlands, Budapest, Romania but not in USA. Unless the second one is in America. I suggest you try contracts. it has some missions from 1st part but remodeled, reshaped and more options to solving them. and some new ones.

rotterdam in 47 is a biyathc! i tried and tried and tried. then i went with the cheats. the thing is that when he arms the bom you have limited time to find the bomb and defuse it. It's really easy to find it when you know where it is. anyway with the cheats i went on to explore this particular extra hard mission. i read the walkthroughs, the options etc. and a played it over and over a few times. i came to conclusion that something went terribly wrong during creation. for once i bet those guards that always spot&discover you shouldn't be doing that. and there is a way to avoid detection if you walk close and right behind the guard going through the gates. i bet it was ment to spend more time on the boat. figuring out how to get on where to go etc. there are also a few other bizzare things i saw when suing cheats. which only confirmed my suspicion tha the mission was badly planned and seems to be unfinished.

as i said the hitman: contracts corrected that (including shortening the length of the rotterdam mission and it's complexity - nuke doesn't have to be disarmed anymore). like for example later you have a few locations with poison and you can decide either to use poison, car bomb or silenced sniper rifle. or maybe you go on a killing spree or my personal favourite - walk close to the target, make sure no one is arround, pull out the silenced pistol, 2 shots in the head (1 to make sure), walk away.

The thing about CN47 and Rotterdam is that the tower-ish guards have nowhere to run and scream "INTRUDER". Plot the guards' routine. For guards in groups, with the sniper rifle you can pick out 3-4 in no time before anyone can warn the Boss.

A method: Say a patrol cover two stationary guards. The patrol will most certainly enter an area where their execution will be unnoticed. The silenced MP5 is great to take out several at the same time, from behind. The seconds it take for them to orient is valuable. But if the patrolling guards are seperated by a certain distance, the piano wire or knife is best. Take out the last one, hide the body and wait for the next in that group to come back. As for the dogs, only the ones along the inner fence needs to be tricked away from that fence. Keep to the outer fence, approach and go back once the dogs charge. Take them out with the silenced pistol. But mostly the dogs can be taken out with the sniper rifle right where they are.

The guards around the two ware houses: Start with the outer one, by the far wall. Take one out with the knife, leave him where he is. When the next guard comes, stand by the wall with your MP5SD ready. Then do the same by the other ware house, by the inmost wall. Then take out the driver.

The three sailors at the pier: Snipe the leftmost. The bullet will most likely push the body back and hide it. When the two others come over to look at their pal, snipe them too into cover. The two patrolling the deck can be sniped when they're at the stern and hidden from the two in the crows nests. Notice that someone might hear their screams and come investigating. Snipe any newcomers in a hurry.

Snipe the two in the masts so that they fall well clear of the open hatches below. I don't think the captain cares much for those two...

On board: Locate the Room. "Simple".

Oh, and once you visit the weapon depot, the guard routines change...

As for the outer sentries: Snipe them. Double headshots are fun :D

for some reason mp5 didn't come as option in weapon selection. i simply can't select it. it's there but coloured in sort of hazy colours, so it's impossible to select it.
the hardest part is getting to the boat. once there it's easy. the guard next to steps - wire drag behind change clothes walk to the bomb &clear the engine room go to captain and say hi (while at same time boris get's blown by car bomb).

also some reason i can't get sniper rifle. and walkthrough i read said the rifle is near the beginning. couldnt' find any. maybe my version is strange.

anyway i just remembered a strange crappy game called Defender. it used line graphics and was ment as side scrawler. it's starts off good but then it get's terrible wiht random hyperspace jumps. after a while it used to crash. tried a lot of things but it always either crashed ot the enemies were too good and "ate" my lives out fast.

the crappiest game of all time is without a shadow of a doubt superman 64, the game has crappy graphics, bad conrol and was way after its time when it came out.

This reminds me of the Superman for the C64 which was quite cool. ^_^

Going back a few posts, I'd agree that Hitman:Contracts was an absolute bloody monstrosity. Awful gameplay, full of bugs and glitches, and there was no point using the disguises as the enemy saw through them in like 5 seconds and started blazing you up like crazy. I played the Xbox version and found that if you held the thumbstick gently you could slide across the floor at a good speed without moving your legs at all. While this may be a useful stealth move, it doesn't do much to endear the game to me. Truly horrible.

PS: How can you not like Commader Keen, you savages?

You must be talkign about silent assasin (2nd part) where suspicious meter was first introduce and went too high too quick. and i read that really ruined the game.

contracts is ok in this matter. you can walk arround in certain clothes and they never blow your cover. the thing you are not supposed to do is walk in police clothes near the cup. but even that is possible if oyu dont' run and stay calm.

What I like about Contracts is the fact that you don't have to be stealthy at all if you don't want to be, but you have to carefully plot out a route whether you're disguised or not.

One of the things that is bad about the game IMO is that to go postal, you might have no chance unless you find a specific item. An example would be the first level, in which you almost have to find the dead SWAT member lying in the corner and take his armor and shotgun. I wasn't getting anywhere in that level until I stumbled across that little gem by pure luck...

I haven't played Hitman 2 very much at all...it's far too difficult...

Dude aquaman is the worst game ever too be made =p

I wish I had my old c64 cassette (original) with 101 games, all written in BASIC. There were not a single game on that cassette that was even half decent. Every genre imaginable (for that time) and all of them failed completly: Text adventures where they forgot to put in movement commands and so on... Thank god, I got it for free from someone who wanted to give me a nice present.

Some present. I should probably type more stuff here so it's not a useless two word post.

Medal Of Honor Allied Assault: What an over rated heap of linear trash! Who gives a rats donkey about the D-day when you're stuck in a linear trigger based obstacle course. Geez!


:blink:

My copy of MOHAA was fine...

You may just have a bad copy..


Oh well.. everyone is entitled to an opinion


Anyway my MOST HATED GAME:

Mother F*cking
YuGiOh! Duelists of the roses: I HATED THIS PEICE OF CRAP

Instead of cards being stationary to attack, you had to MOVE the cards up to the targets, and you could only move 1 card per turn!

And the field was like. 5X5 spaces with little alcoves for the "Bosses"

Which were the life points.. the "bosses" couldnt even attack back! and basically winning a game was impossible with the DEPLORABLE starter deck they give you..


Why Mommy? Why did they make this game?

WHYYYYYYY?!?!?!

The crappiest games come in 3's.

Gobliiins: These are supposed to be puzzle/adventure games. I'm supposed to be rich. Its even spelled with 3 i's for crying out loud.

Sonic The Hedgehog 3: The beginning of the end. New mechanics, new look, level designs all for the worst in my opinion and the model for all following games in the series.

Tomb Raider 3: ^Ditto. There is no "tomb raiding" in this game I don't even know how it can be called so. Every one after it gets worse but all blame goes back to 3. A let down and pure crap to any Tomb Raider fan.

Tony Hawk 3: ^Trend continues. A Thrasher sequel could've stopped Tony in his tracks. The gameplay is sped up and frame rate completely clashes with the graphics. Its too fast, its not Tony, and it set the stage for all future games to be ruined. Why does this happen?

Grand Theft Auto 2 (but you might say technically 3 after the London pack): Huge letdown after being such a big fan of 1. Just a completely different game really. The peds were weak, the graphics were nice but really out of place, and the whole matchbox/real world vibe of the original is completely lost. What is leftover is a pissing match between 3 gangs, none of which really make it worth your while to woo. Considering how many dog the original for being a crappy idea with the view it had, this one really shows how bad it could've been.

Kings Quest 8: I really tried to give it a chance and came to admit the undeniable crappiness. I can appreciate new characters and new 3D graphics with real time action. I can take a mediocre story with pixel hunting inventory searches. I can't appreciate being forced to run from or die by 10 pixel wide spiders. You used to be turned into stone or a pile of dust, or even eat Nightshade. What happened here?

Uniracers: I don't even want to acknowledge a cult fixated on unicycles with eyes. Such a crap concept that any level of decency in execution is nullified.

Soul Caliber: This will probably be the death of me but this is the most uneventful and uninspiring fighting game I have ever played in my life. I'd actually rather play Virtua Fighter and just float around half the match.

Spider-Man & the X-Men: Arcade's Revenge: :blink:
I'll have to come back to this there are plenty worse games.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Iowa @ Oct 13 2006, 09:48 PM) [snapback]261119[/snapback]</div>Actually, you could just sneak by really easy to one room and then slide down the ladder to a car that's got your name on it. ;) Oh, the game featured very good... uh... everything, because the music rocked, graphics were superb, plot... (maybe?), the Silent or MassMurdorer options rocked and etc. The only thing I feel is that it was extremely rushed. The game could've been completed in one nice try (I liked to go berserk, it saves you time - just go in BLAZIN'). :max:

I think more people need to read Eagle's post earlier in the thread.

What? No more CN47? ^_^ Ok, there are loads of crappy games out there, so let's hear it.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Iowa @ Sep 21 2006, 03:30 AM) [snapback]256353[/snapback]</div>How could I have missed this post?

Agreed, although the moves and everything is boosted there to the max and even that 3D looks nice it really lacks the MK we all know and love. DA was filled with a few new idiotic, non-story-created fighters (a blind dude? Why didn't they change his weapon to a cane then?), not all the previous ones included (damn).

MK2, MK3, MK3U still rule as the best in the series. Especially the last one - features all chars all in one, how cool is that?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Oct 18 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]262029[/snapback]</div>I don't know about CN47 (didn't play much of it), but the fact that the suspicion metter being very high HAS to be realistic, because for example in Contracts you could've walked around in a chinese deli full of ONLY chinese guards and the Hitman - lacking ANY looks in particular - being able to waltz in front of the boss of the joint is pretty hilarious. I mean - the hats that they wear expose the whole face and the back of the head where the Hitman has his license plate tattoed visible a mile away LOL.

I love it when people bash Dark Alliance and then say that the immensely cheap rip-off for everyone who owned number three or two, Ultimate Mortal Kombat III was a good game.
Such irony.

I'm sorry, I must have had something in my eye, but I could have swore I read some horrible, horrible person talking negatively about two great games! :whistling:

Tony Hawk 3 is too fast? Well, i've no idea what you mean by that at all, i've gone through the game and can perform tricks and jumps with utmost accuracy. In my opinion the first two were a bit slow...

Also, if it "set the stage for all future games to be ruined", then explain the millions of $ worth of sales, the hundreds of glowing reviews, and the thousands of excited fans? I know it's just my opinion, but I believe that the Tony Hawk franchise, while a bit too overdone, is a blast to play.

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Actually, GTA II is one of my favorites. I have only barely played the first one, but I doubt too many fans were disappointed...altogether the game is a great timekiller and absolutely exhilrating if taken in small to medium doses. Example: the first red Yakuza mission in which you have to jack your Wanted level up all the way, kill a SWAT team, steal their van, and floor it across town before you're reduced to rubble.

Caesar III: It's a mess. I mean, the game is nice in the beginning, but later on, when your city has to be of a certain size, it becomes frustrating to see how the trading and storing gets funked up. I know that you should keep the number of intersections at minimum, and that two lane roads prevent the streets from being jammed, and that it's important to keep the ware houses, factories and docks close together, BUT they still manage to get it messed up. Two lane roads: Watch the cart getting pushed down the road and then turn back before reaching the intersection, because the game thinks that two lane roads are just lots of intersections. Watch the ships docking at the wrong dock consistently, so the carts have to be pushed all over the map. Watch the market woman walking to the granary on the other side of the map instead of to the one next to the market...
I haven't found a way to make a "chain of granaries" work. I need them when the farm land is far away from the other side of the city. The "Get Goods" doesn't make much sense to me.
There is no way in hell you can design a large city where everything works close to "accepted".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(a30993 @ Oct 18 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]261941[/snapback]</div>he was speaking figurativelly... what he means is that the whole plot to game and the options are very linear. even maps are made that way. like playing on some race track with obstacles and people to shoot. you can't go anywhere to the side, there are no side quests, which you can can't do etc. this wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't been done and seen many times before. same stories, same way of doing things - WW2GI for example.

Run for cover, pick up the bangoliers and bust that wall... been there, done that... let's move on.

Well what made it different from any other FPS? Shouldn't that opinion be general then for many FPS games, and not just MoH:AA?

yah, but here the story was the same. watching &playing Private Ryan for the emptienth time.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Oct 19 2006, 11:03 AM) [snapback]262110[/snapback]</div>

Eh.. I agree with that....

Oh well..

like i said everyone is entitled to an opinion

AT LEAST it wasnt as bad as FRONTLINE

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Oct 19 2006, 09:00 AM) [snapback]262085[/snapback]</div>he was speaking figurativelly... what he means is that the whole plot to game and the options are very linear. even maps are made that way. like playing on some race track with obstacles and people to shoot. you can't go anywhere to the side, there are no side quests, which you can can't do etc. this wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't been done and seen many times before. same stories, same way of doing things - WW2GI for example.

Run for cover, pick up the bangoliers and bust that wall... been there, done that... let's move on.
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Actually, it's very realistic, because when the war started you got orders which you had to do right away - no questions asked. The side quests... hmm... like what? Go save a few penguins when your friend needs you to reload the MG42, while he's being raped by a bunch of germans?
Same stories - ahem, the game was about a real war which took place, not a fictional one. If it were that - we'd be going wild and shooting 3-legged-coffeebean-hedded aliens from Pluto. ROFL.

The only thing that isn't realistic that you are the one ubersoldier there who kills about 9000K enemies in the game, but even that is fun. Mohaa rocked for it's time.

Does realism really matter in the MoH series? It was never the point of the series, since the first game.

Hmm, worst game of all time eh?

well i was going to say Daikatana, but since newer games are being talked about then i'm going to say that Bad Day L.A. beats Daikatana for that title.

Awful, awful game :not_ok:

Of all time? too many to name hah! Right now all that comes to mind is Zeus. Hercules just will not come no matter what I do!

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You...you dare insult one of the greatest classics ever released?

Frontline is revered by countless fans, websites, and magazines. I haven't seen one official score that wasn't in the "Awesome" range...

It is one of the most fun games i've ever played for the Playstation 2, the D-Day level was entirely unforgettable, and even though it's only your opinion, it's sheer blasphemy in the face of a perfect game.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(troop18546 @ Oct 19 2006, 01:19 PM) [snapback]262144[/snapback]</div>he was speaking figurativelly... what he means is that the whole plot to game and the options are very linear. even maps are made that way. like playing on some race track with obstacles and people to shoot. you can't go anywhere to the side, there are no side quests, which you can can't do etc. this wouldn't be so bad if it hadn't been done and seen many times before. same stories, same way of doing things - WW2GI for example.

Run for cover, pick up the bangoliers and bust that wall... been there, done that... let's move on.
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Actually, it's very realistic, because when the war started you got orders which you had to do right away - no questions asked. The side quests... hmm... like what? Go save a few penguins when your friend needs you to reload the MG42, while he's being raped by a bunch of germans?
Same stories - ahem, the game was about a real war which took place, not a fictional one. If it were that - we'd be going wild and shooting 3-legged-coffeebean-hedded aliens from Pluto. ROFL.

The only thing that isn't realistic that you are the one ubersoldier there who kills about 9000K enemies in the game, but even that is fun. Mohaa rocked for it's time.
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yeah orders you had to do... and if you didn't? you could just stay in bunker forever, or get court martialed :-D

actually i only like the first mission where you have others accompany you. but then you are mostly all alone.

and the whole story is WW2 GI all over again. mostly it is same or at least very similar. it's all such a deja-vu. a lot of missions were similar to DoD. yah must be cause it all really happened. but why making a game out of one even over and over again? ok, cause it sells. but it's also nothing special, since same event is replayed over and over again by enhanced graphics.

it's always the same thing. at least in Halo it's logical that you are saving others since you are an enhanced human, but here you are just a soldier who has to kill all enemies so his squad can walk up and down the street free.

and for the momets you have a feeling like you have absolutelly no choices. for example you are clearing the snipers in one mission. you spot them but you can't go arround them and sneak from behind. and there is only 1 realy good spot. means no choice. similar with tank. no way to drive it up in some alley and wait to ambush the enemy tanks.

what i ment by sidequests is things that would offer you various ways of solving the main mission quest. in a way that you could use brains instead of muscles to get to the enemies.but that's impossible if the maps look like a race track.

and there are basically no others in the game eventhough there were more important events on other beaches then on Omaha. but it's always the Omaha... oh there is some french resistance, which in my opinion was so minute that it doesnt' deserve such mentioning that it has. different goes to the french army, which provided manpower.

why didnt' they do "Medal of honour" on the Soviet front? Or they could play arround with the african front quite a lot. not to mention the previous loosing ground in Europe by the allies. at leats these would have some different stories.

imagine having a doom story, then enhancing graphics add a few extra effects, leaving same weapons and enemies and replying the doom story all over again (btw: jDoom). and then you get a new one out there on the market again with basically same story, even beter graphics and new effects... and so on, and so on... sooner or later it will be preety boring and repetitive story. now a new thing here would be to play from cyberdemon perspective. at leats it wouldn't be repeating the whole thing.

i can't say MOHAA is not a nice game, but it's nothing special.

You should play CoD and CoD2 which are basically sequels to MoH:AA (made by the same team but under different publisher), where they've put most of the stuff you are talking about. But they needed time and probably freedom that they didn't have under EA which forced the one man hero type of games.

The Omaha beach is really overly repetetive, I mean - they had their a55es whooped left and right. Why not go for operation Gold or Sword. Omaha really sucks, I agree.

hm...

Masters of Orion 3 << real crap, the computer always overrode my decisions and the game was crappy as hell

The Matrix Games <<< omfg

Indeed, Masters of Orion 3 was a terrible game, not worthy of the series to be sure.

E.T. for the Atari HAS to be the worst game in history, hands down, i mean how many other games do you hear about getting pulled from shelves and buried in a landfill?

Fallout:Brotherhood of steel

X-com:Enforcer

C&C:Generals... eh -check those out... it's average not crapiest....

Those games are average at least, and Generals and BoS are actually decent (Generals being really good).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Deichgraf @ Oct 20 2006, 04:57 PM) [snapback]262560[/snapback]</div>I agree. I buyed this crap, it was horrable. Went straigt back to Master of Orion 2! :ok:

BoS is crap

Generals are average... I like the rank system though... but some units are WAY too powerfull!

BoS is not "crap" it's just Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance in the Fallout universe, it's not good, but it's not crap either. And sure, Generals is average, but at least it doesn't suck like TS.

What you said about Tiberian Sun is untrue... besides - Gens DO NOT deerved to be called Command & Conquier. Tiberian sun has an awesome story, greate ideas(not even modern RTS can stand up to it),easy to MOD,Huge comunity, and Gens suck...

This one will sort the Fan-boys from the others.

Halo :D

Firstly, I would like to congratulate you on starting what might turn out to be a page-long debate, it's always nice to pit people against each other. :D

Halo, in my opinion, isn't anything special or unique. It's very fun to play, but mirrors every cliche in the book, why do we love it? Because it shows us just how good we can make things we've already seen before, and that our best is never enough. Halo in question has the second-best multiplayer i've seen (just below Counter-Strike and just above Perfect Dark).

Has anyone played Phantasmagoria 2? I own it and it was the worst game I ever bought. It was only a game with lots of video's and cliking. No serious puzzles and very lousy actors.

And nudity.

Halo is repetitive... the best thing is co-op...

After re-playing Morrowind, it occurs to me that the monsters are rrrrreeeeally stupid. A mudcrab attacked, I moved behind a huge rock, the mudcrab followed towards "my last known position" and kept going around the rock while I too circled it. I ended up following the wretched creature like 10 steps behind. Also, the magical monsters tend to throw their tricks into whatever tiny obstruction between us. Hide behind a table and watch the mage cast every fireball into the table until he's out of magica...

It doesn't make Morrowind the worst game or anything, but still it's pretty dumb.

dumb is that final boss is a whimp with tougher minions than himself (yep some of them are actually stronger than him). He should have some special spell or something. Like to give you all the blight diseases at once. But then again that corpus diseas cure potion does make you imune to those so...

well that kinf of casting is bad only if they dont' have high enough radius. if they do however it will damage you anyway (even if you are bhind the table). still makes them look kind of dumb...

Aren't monsters suppose to be stupid?

Yup. but the talented NPC with supposedly high intelligence also act similar. well not that stupid i guess...

well you have a point there. why would some mudcrab have a highly evolved intelligence.

Life is the crappiest game of all. I mean - you meet cheats and other horrible npc's, there ain't no restart, load or save buttons and the pain you feel is REAL + no ordinary health pack can heal you. It sucks, especially today :(.

i totally agree with that.

You, my good man, are speaking the simple truth. Ill-concieved (pun intended), not planned or scripted in a way that makes it comprehendable, the graphics are too ordinary and some sounds can drive you mad. You know that no matter how good you are at it, it will end in "Game over. You lose", and there's not even a High Score list or Hall Of Fame in flashing colours.

But then again, I guess there's a ride there somewhere.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ Oct 24 2006, 04:34 PM) [snapback]263287[/snapback]</div>I know I am right. Life is the most ilogical game too. Doing things for no particular reason, no happy ending + it doesn't come with any "easy" difficulty setting - it's always on "hell" or damned "nightmare". My existence isn't worth anything, just a few thrills and a lot of muck everyday. It sucks. Purely the WORST ever.

I don't want to sound like a flippin' hippie or anything (I do, but that's beside the point), but I believe that there's a ride somewhere. Trouble is to look in the right places. I'd know, I think I have started to look in the right direction lately.

If you hate your life, play Alter Ego.