Best strategy game at that time:Dune II or Warcraft I
 

Okay, okay, i got the idea reading Lothar's thread.But this question comes naturally, because at that time these two games battled for supremacy.
I ask that you only compare these games and not their succesors

If i am not mistaken Dune II is older than Warcraft 1, and it is the grandfather of all RTS games... I might be wrong, but thats what i believe

Dune II is (widely accepted) as the first real RTS game as far as I know

Yeah Dune II is the first RTS like Doom is the first FPS. This means that they are accepted as being the first even though technically they are not.

I never got into Warcraft much. I did not like it. Dune II however I played over and over again. My vote therefore goes to Dune II.

Dune 2 was the first and it still kicks fucking ass!

I see the word cesor is working flawlessly :D

And yeah, Dune 2 kix a$$ ;)

Warcraft 1 ROXX
Dune 2 #MEEEPING# #MEEEEP# #MEEEEEEEP#!!!!!

hehe.. Dune 2 all the day... hmmm... might just play the final mission with Harkonan right now :)

Yeah, nuke'm titan :wink:

I think I'll give Dune II another try now :)

I cant fucking get past mission 3 or 4 on any family on Dune 2
bloody sandworms
eating my nice harvesters and tanks

The worms rule :shock:

Place 5-6 tanks and preferbly a few rocket-guys on the edge of the cliffs, and send out a lone vehicle and attract the worm... actualy, you CAN kill it in ONE shot... but the shot HAS to hit when the worm is opening the mouth to eat..

You can kill the worms too by just shooting in the sand. And the AI of the worms in this game is really stupid. They ALWAYS use the same routes, check it out, it's true.

worms weren't that much of a problem for me
it only took 1 of my units.
now the words in Emperor: battle for Dune those were vicious things... you could easily loose an entire army if you weren't quick enough.

EDIT: well i bought the book today, the original Dune.
so far its a good read (too bad I got the version with the ugly cover)

I have seen only the movie... Is the movie close to the book?

I've never seen the movie
however I've ehard there are quite a few mistakes in the movie
like: the movie overdoes the characters
for example: in the book the Baron of the Harkonnen is an obese homosexual tyrant... but he is not stupid, he is quite clever...
however in the movie he is this disfigured lump of jelly drooling all over the place and (presumably) quite stupid.
I've heard the miniseries are more true to the book when it comes to characters.
the baron will still be obese, but he won't look like a monster, just obese.

Baron from the Lynch Movie:
http://www.lisashea.com/hobbies/dune/lynch/baron.jpg

Baron from the miniserie:
http://encyklopedie.dune.cz/images2/baron_harr.jpghttp://us.ent4.yimg.com/movies.yahoo...a_amavia15.jpg

and finally
The Baron from the last Westwood Dune Game (Emperor: battle for dune):
http://dune3.ligahosting.de/images/e.../eop_Rakan.jpg

so far I enjoy reading Dune more than readong Lord of the Rings I'm afraid to say.

The book is very good but I thought it sequels were not good. I never read them all but the three or so that I did read were bad.

In the movie the Baron is not stupid but he is a bit over the top. His nephew or son (I forgot which what he is) that rules Dune for a time after the occupation is portrayed as being stupid but this true to the book. The worst thing about the Movie is that it tries to get to much from the book into the movie. In the book there are a lot of parts where the characters are thinking to themselves about events. These are in the movie as dubbed over speeches. The actors just stare puzzled for a few seconds as you hear them talking in the dub. Very stupid and irritating.
The miniseries is not that close to the book either. The name Muad' Dib is not even mentioned and I believe the word Jihad is not named either (for obvious but false reasons). The entire Middle Eastern mysticism has been dulled down or erased. The characters lack an edge that makes them interesting and the story lacks speed. All in all in my opinion the movie is better.

well I wouldn't know.
Like I've said I haven't seen the movie or the mini series.
I've visited some of the rare fansites and most of the people there prefer the series over the movie.

I've heard the new books aren't as good as the original, mainly because they are not always correct.
(they also aren't written by Frank Herbert)

Indeed I did hear some characters were "over the top" in the movies,again I am not able to verrify that.

oh and if you are talking of Feyd... he is the Baron's nephew.

Only ever played Dune I and II.. and I was no better on Dune I

Warcraft is better... because.

because of a full stop?

I have found that there are usually two schools of RTS gamers, the warcraft/starcraft style gamers or the warzone/c&c style gamers. I myself grew up with the Blizzard games as my games, but I can school in any dune 2 style game too! Bring it on.

I was more of the Westwood fan guy. (my fav company hehe DIE EA) I never really like blizzar RTS fo some reason.

They are both good, but I prefer Warcraft 1 because of the fantasy setting.

That's exactly how i fell

And then there are those that don't like either like me. RTS has never been my thing. Turnbased appeals to me much more. I get the time to think about strategy and react to what my opponent is doing. RTS is always the same. You build up forces as much and as fast as you can and go kill the opponent.

There you are right. Because of that I only played Warcraft III in singleplayer mode, but in internet I just tried out the game and forgot it again, as you have to be FAST there and allways just have to kill your opponents, too boring, there are no other, more entertaining options, like cooperative play in story-mode or like that. I prefer RPG's or adventures more as they usually leave much time to think and there's almost never need to rush.

The movie is pretty bad. But I read the book as a 10 year old and pretty much loved them. Except the last book. It became all a bit strange in that one. Paul atreides morphing in a sandworm etc :S

I never read the book, so I found the original movie good and quite interesting because of the story.