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trevtherev 29-12-2012 07:35 PM

It's hard for an oldie to get going :(
 
Ok guys I go back a long way and using dosbox i have no trouble running any of the text games..ie mounting the c drive etc...but when I come to play a non text game I have great trouble getting it to play. I do change dir etc and look for the exe or bat file...but whatever game I try I just do not get it to run....so to keep things simple could someone suggest an old dos game (something popular subject is not important but running the game is) and take me through the process...I have read the various beginner notes and read lots of posts on the forum but cannot seem to get any games only text games to load...So lead me by the hand and encourage and help me to finally get a nice little game up and running in my brand new dosbox :drool:
a rather perplexed trevtherev in not so sunny Bristol UK

Tracker 29-12-2012 08:15 PM

All right friend,

I'll try to write a quick guide for you here. I'll try to walk you the steps of running Tetris Classic.
Download the game on to your computer.
When done, extract it to your dos games folder, mine is called 'dos' and is located on my D drive.
Now, the path to .exe file of Tetris Classic would be the following:

D:\dos\TetrisC\tetrisc.exe

Whenever I would like to play some Tetris, I start DOSBox, and type the following:

Code:

mount C D:\dos
C:
cd TetrisC
tetrisc

The above commands mount D:\dos as the C drive of DOSBox, then I of course switch to the C drive by typing C:, I enter the folder of Tetris Classic with cd TetrisC, then run the executable by only typing the filename.

Note: When the game prompts you to select your graphics card, press 1 for VGA, then either 3 for SoundBlaster music or 12 for no sound.

In order to save time you can create shortcuts including a command that can enable you to start your games solely by double-clicking on their icon on your desktop.

Here's how:

Right-click on your deskop, select New-> Shortcut. When prompted, either browse or enter the path of your DOSBox. By default, it is in C:\Program Files on Windows XP, and C:\Program Files (x86) on Vista, 7, and 8.
After you have selected the executable file DOSBox.exe, you need to copy or write the absolute path leading to the game you want to run. For example, the path of my Tetris Classic is D:\dos\TetrisC\tetrisc.exe. You might also want to enter the commandline switch -noconsole behind everything in order to get rid of the console window appearing in the background.
Here is what my Tetris Classic shortcut includes:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox-0.74\DOSBox.exe" D:\dos\TetrisC\tetrisc.exe -c -noconsole

You might use this and substitute the path with the path of the game you want to play. Note that this is going to mount the game's folder as your C drive. If you have got any questions, feel free to ask here, have fun playing whatever you want!

trevtherev 30-12-2012 02:25 PM

Thanks Tracker for taking the time to help me get dosbox up and running! I got tetris to play lovely :) and set the short cut up as you described...great!! The hardest part of setting up any game is trying to locate the proper start or exe file in order to run the game...I downloaded policequest a marvellous game for running in dosbox (I had to rename the download file to something that dosbox would recognize) and then the difficult part...after changing directory to polquest I had to find the correct file to load the game...but after a little experimentation I found that "sierra" was the correct file and hey presto we are up and running..I hope the forum does not mind me posting if I have future problems as I love the authenticity of dosbox and the memories it invokes for someone who played games a long time ago :)

Tracker 30-12-2012 02:52 PM

It is nice to see you finally managed to get your games running. Do not worry, feel free to ask for help on our boards whenever you're in any kind of distress regarding old video games. Remember, it's about the community, helping people have fun with old games.

Smiling Spectre 30-12-2012 06:01 PM

Also, trevtherev, there is one very simple way to play 90% of games in DOSBox. :)

If you have link to DOSBox on your desktop, you can simply drag exe/com in question on that link. (Dragging on actual DOSBox' exe will work too, but link is more convenient :)

In that case DOSBox will automatically mount directory of exe in question as C and start this exe. :) It's enough for any game that not required specific dir/subdir (and it's true for mentioned 90% of games :).

The Fifth Horseman 30-12-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevtherev (Post 448291)
The hardest part of setting up any game is trying to locate the proper start or exe file in order to run the game...

One of the reasons why I recommend using Norton Commander is that you can filter the displayed files by name and extension. Setting *.exe *.com *.bat as the filter will result in displaying only executables and batch scripts (which some games need to be started with rather than with the executable directly)

Eagle of Fire 30-12-2012 08:40 PM

typing "dir *.bat" and "dir *.exe" do the same thing. All the basic original DOS commands work too.

I'm pretty sure you can even display both at the same time but that's extremely advanced command use, even for me. I could look it up but I usually don't bother because those commands are executed instantly and it actually take less time (for me) to type out the next command and look at the results than to remember some obscure flag in such a command. ;)

Edit: Oh yeah, and if you want to display the results columns by columns you can also use the /w flag. ;)

The Fifth Horseman 31-12-2012 10:48 AM

With NC the filter can be on the entire time - even across different sessions - without having to retype the command. Which is kind of convenient. :p

Smiling Spectre 31-12-2012 12:08 PM

Total Commander forever! :D

Tracker 31-12-2012 12:19 PM

Yes, but there's no TotalCommander under DOS, only Norton Commander. :)

Smiling Spectre 31-12-2012 10:32 PM

Really, but if you'll drag exe on DOSBox link, TC wins! :D

(Actually, it's exactly my frame of work with games from DOSCollection. I am dragging main exe/bat/com on DOSBox from TC, and if everything works - that's it. In remaining 10% I am mounting work directory with game subdir and cd from here to destination, and in minority cases game need to be mounted as floppy/have files replaced/ some other complexity :)

trevtherev 01-01-2013 12:39 PM

been able to set up quite a few games, following tracker's intro particularly like the short cut command on desktop setting a particular game up and getting it to run immediately :)...dungeon master, eye of the beholder....but had trouble trying to set up elder scrolls...and reading the notes it does not appear so straight forward, but I'll keep working at it and prob get it to play. I would prob use norton commander if it was a free download :(....yeah I know i'm tight bas**** :)

The Fifth Horseman 01-01-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevtherev (Post 448367)
been able to set up quite a few games, following tracker's intro particularly like the short cut command on desktop setting a particular game up and getting it to run immediately :)...dungeon master, eye of the beholder....but had trouble trying to set up elder scrolls...and reading the notes it does not appear so straight forward, but I'll keep working at it and prob get it to play.

For games that need a more specific DOSBox configuration, try this: http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=28964
Quote:

I would prob use norton commander if it was a free download :(....yeah I know i'm tight bas**** :)
http://www.abandonia.com/en/programs - scroll down. :)

MrFlibble 01-01-2013 06:33 PM

Volkov Commander, DOS Navigator and Star Commander are all nice alternatives to Norton Commander.

Smiling Spectre 02-01-2013 07:02 PM

For me, first two are quite poor substitutes. It could be useful in DOS times, as first is somewhat "lighter", and second gives more options, but now? NC is quite enough for running old games. :D

MrFlibble 02-01-2013 09:36 PM

I haven't used Norton Commander in ages, what features exactly are the above lacking?

Besides, DOS Navigator and Star Commander are freeware, and Vokov Commander shareware, whereas I don't recall Norton Commander having been released as freeware..?

Smiling Spectre 03-01-2013 04:26 PM

Well, as man who used NC in ages, I can say that main problem with both DN and VC is different key mapping and menu schematics.

Yes, VC is much lighter (mostly because it strips of most "advanced" features of NC, like DBF/BMP/anything viewers, extensive search and such) - but it's not a problem now.

DN is really better than NC (and I said exactly that in previous post - sorry if I messed it). But it's main problem is that it's not NC. :) If you are not accustomed to NC, well, it can do. Otherwise it will be whole lot of mess, and why? To run several old games? :)

Yes, I am aware that mentioned programs are free/shareware. But NC is here, on Abandonia. I suppose, it means that it can be used freely anyway. :)

Again, if it's still not clear: I think that at least VC and DN are good programs, as is. (I didn't see Star Commander). But if you are worked with NC, this programs are mess, because they are too similar to NC in appearance - and simultaneously are totally different in many mappings, that made a lot of unnecessary confusion. In that, and only that sense they are "poor substitutes". :)

(Also, exactly this issue was the reason why I switched from NC to Windows Commander absolutely flawless, but wasn't able to accustom to Far at all. :)

twillight 04-01-2013 07:46 AM

DosBox runs in window, right? so you can use windows' inherit File Manager to filter your files even.

But as we're up to DOS-commands: I usually know what command-files to run, but sometimes they have too long names. So in DosBox I use:

dir /p

This lists the files and subdirectories in alphabetic order segmented by screens.

MrFlibble 08-01-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smiling Spectre (Post 448430)
DN is really better than NC (and I said exactly that in previous post - sorry if I messed it). But it's main problem is that it's not NC. :) If you are not accustomed to NC, well, it can do. Otherwise it will be whole lot of mess, and why? To run several old games? :)

Again, if it's still not clear: I think that at least VC and DN are good programs, as is. (I didn't see Star Commander). But if you are worked with NC, this programs are mess, because they are too similar to NC in appearance - and simultaneously are totally different in many mappings, that made a lot of unnecessary confusion. In that, and only that sense they are "poor substitutes". :)

(Also, exactly this issue was the reason why I switched from NC to Windows Commander absolutely flawless, but wasn't able to accustom to Far at all. :)

Heh, apparently I'm not that hardcore orthodox file manager user after all, since I like Far exactly for its NC-like looks :) I use VC alpha 4.99 in DOSBox, and only for simple functions like move files from one directory to another, and also the internal viewer.

To run games, typing dir *.exe, dir *.bat and dir *.com from the command prompt is usually quite sufficient. I also prefer dir /w to quickly view contents of a large directory (usually to check directory names).

BTW, there's also the internal browser in the DOS RAR versions with shell (v2.50 and below).

Smiling Spectre 08-01-2013 06:29 PM

Well, we taken each other point of view, so I can only repeat what I said already: for me it's much simpler to use my trusty Total Commander for browsing in Windows - and work with command prompt inside of DOSBox. :) But who knows when NC/clones can be useful? :) So thank you again for discussion. :)


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