Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review

YaaaaaY!!!!Dungeon Master 2!!!!! :Brain: :Brain: :Brain:
I think that is everything that is need to say about this one

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!

:Brain: :Brain: :Brain:

THANK YOU FOR ADDING THIS!

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

CAPS LOCK: Deactivated

Played this way back in the day, love it.

Edit: All the images are broken links.

Edit Edit: Nevermind

lack of puzzles? theres a few when you get to skullkeep

some bitches as well if i remember...

I remember giving up because i didn't have the manual. Can someone maybe scan or give a link with the manual? The game isn't exactly self-explicit.

It did give me a very good impression though.

Here: http://dmweb.free.fr
The best DM site!

Thanx Fido, I'm gonna replay and finish this game now. A true classic. And it has the manual also + lots of tips.

SMORKEL FORKEL! :wall: :wall:

I got so damn far in the game only to find that all my games have been erased, nargh!

Is this bug known? :eeeeeh:

It's the damnedest thing! Just the other day I said to myself, 'I should obtain a copy of Dungeon Master 2.' And here it is. Brilliant!

I've been struggling with this thing off and on pretty much ever since it was uploaded. It simply doesn't work. Help me out here?

As I said in the review, I never got that far in the game myself.

Quote:

Originally posted by Dreadlord@Feb 24 2005, 11:12 PM SMORKEL FORKEL!* :wall:* :wall: I got so damn far in the game only to find that all my games have been erased, nargh! Is this bug known?* :eeeeeh:

Hmm... Can't say what's wrong with that. You mean your saved games disappeared? Never happened to me, at least so far.

QuoteBegin-mockedbythedrunk@Feb 25 2005, 07:50 AM
I've been struggling with this thing off and on pretty much ever since it was uploaded. It simply doesn't work. Help me out here?[/quote]

Be more specific please. Are you using DosBox? Getting an error?

Oh and by the way. There's a soundpatch of some kind for DM2, but it doesn't really seem to fix a thing so I wouldn't recommend installing it. Instead, people have been complaining that the patch actually screws up the whole thing, taking away all the sounds that even somehow work.

Enjoy the game ^_^

Bah, I never finished this game on the Amiga, couldn't kill the final boss... :/

http://www.cdaccess.com/html/quick/dungmas2dj.htm ?

Finally! I have been looking for this.

How many DM games there are anyway?

Thanks, Timpsi :ok:


Link changed.
Shame on Kosta for not doing his research. CD-ACCESS is the first stop when checking for abandonware-status.

Tisk tisk

hah i remember this one i prefered it to the second
thanks for putting this up wooeeee
time to add more to my archive of dos games

BUY IT???

Meh i dont want to buy it i bought enough old games
in my time :ranting:

Wow what a disappointment... ...

@tom: i'll have those screens up tomorrow, the latest, so you can replace this failed update with the one mentioned in the news ;)

Yes. BUY it.


If you want it, you must buy it. The game is not abandoned, and we do not support warez on this site.

Whoops.

It seems I wasn't informed about this game.

It is ok. Download at will... or use Timpsi's link to buy the game :ok:

Your choice.

Download it LOL LOL buy it pfff :whistle: :whistle:

Umm I don't get it.. but since I am able to download it I take that the game IS abandonware. Great, let's see what game kept\keeps reminding me of He-man every time I saw\see the title :)

What's the record for beating this game cause I just finished it an hour ago.

When I first when into Skullkeep the screen glitched up and fancy colors emerged.

A very nice game. I spent hours to train my party on those large steak beasts, fighters as mages and vice versa.
And the guards in shops can be killed, only the shopkeeper will never appear again so do not try unless you do not need to sell/buy anymore... I thought it was the most anticipated game of 1993 and it was distributed in 1994? :w00t:

aren't interplay in deep sh1t at the moment concerning lack of money? (they deserve to after taking over then firing black isle :rifle:)

As far as I know, interplay went out of business quite some time ago. Their site is offline, and none of the games they published are supported by them, only by the developers themselves...

on PC 2... officially

Dungeon Master and DM2 LOS

There is also Chaos Strikes Back (there is a version of this for pc - recompiled and the like but it never came out officially)

and finally there was a version which id slightly different for the Saturn.

Does anyone have this problem : I start the game but when I arrive at the start up screen with the sign with NEW RESUME and EXIT, it won't let me click anything. It doesn't seem to respond to key presses either. I tried half a dozen things but none work. I'm using DOSBOX 6.3. Anyone have any clues? Or maybe you can post your conf file from DOSBOX if it works for you.

Hmm, anyone else having the same problem I do... Running the game (in DosBox 0.63) fails with:

Error [35]: Unexpected Interrupt=0000 in DOS4GW.EXE at... etc.

I'm trying to run it on XP SP2.

-typo

How do i run on winxp pro sp1 ?
the screen goes black and the game dont run. help me tks

:help: Well I have loaded dos box with the dfend and then set up DM and all I get is the dosbox that then stops!game don't start!what am I doing wrong!heck I just wanted to play a good game not screw with setting for a week...I would have downloaded "SimBoredComputerDude" if I wanted that.Any help out there on profiles ect?

OK...by visiting dosbox forum I found a clue that lead me to the error35 fix...when you get this code in the dos box command cursor type "DM2.Bat" that gets you to the main screen.

now my mouse wont work at the signpost screen.. I can hit enter and the game starts..my keyboard works..sorta..i'm using a usb mouse not my touchpad..do I need a mouse adapter or software config to make dobox understand my nefangled mouse? :angry:

And what does dosbox say why it doesn't run? Did you set up the folders correctly, are you using the correct file to start the game? It's "dm2.bat" you need to run.

have you tried recapturing your mouse (crtl-f10 i beleive)?
Daggerfall used to do that as well.

i've actually got this game on cd. i bought it many years ago. it never worked that well then, no sound :wall: . Not a bad game thought from what i remeber. all i got to do now is find where i put it.

BTW. Is anyone planing on doing the original?

That MUST be abandonware by now.

Probably someone has to write a review for it first. You could play the JAVA remake in the meantime, haven't tried it myself though:

http://www.cs.pitt.edu/~alandale/dmjava/

i can't play the game, it keeps giving me error when it start... someone knows how to fix it?

I liked that java remake. I would recomend people to play it.

I still have my original CD for the PC, which I bought because I the game was one of my favorites on my Atari ST. I installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2004 and DOS 6.22, I have the CD-ROM, mouse, and Sound Card all configured and working flawlessly. However, the screen redraws are really slow and the mouse refresh is VERY slow and jumpy. Does anyone here have experiance running old DOS games in Microsoft Virtual PC? I am running a true DOS environment in a virtual machine, and the virtual machine has very DOS friendly hardware, I just don't get why it is so sluggish.

ALRIGHT!!! better than the first but still the same!!

absolute a must have experience from the gooooood old days!
:Brain: :kosta: :Brain:

Thanks abandonia for this gift!!

Dungeon master 2 - the best dungeon ever.

:blink:
Hmmm.... you all talk about downloading it but I can't find the link! Can I get an update?

Sorry, Sarah, I'm afraid you're just too late. The game is ESA-protected. If you want more information about why you can no longer download it, read this thread.

How come dungeon master 2 is under esa protection? interplayer and ftl are both bankrupt so i dont see how they can have the rights to it.. :ranting:

If somebody bought the two companies and then released it, then it would be all yours. But at the moment, sadly not.

Am I the only one who finds the interface a significant step backwards from the original? Sure, it looks prettier, but I find it noticeably less useable.

* Magic is modal:

In the original, you could begin entering a spell into any character's box while still having full access to the action area. You could also change from one char to another with a single click, easily holding multiple readied spells, while in DM2 you must explicitly close the interface and then reopen the new character's interface.

I use spells in combat a lot less, because it's that much harder to enter them while still keeping up the attack sequence.

* Variable character positioning:

In the original, the action area (and the spell menu) always listed the characters 1-2-3-4, in the same order as they appeared across the top. Now, action menu is ordered by party location and linked to the top area by colour (only). I find that I keep forgetting which character is which (especially when casting spells).

One could argue that this helps distinguish shooters from melee characters, but I put it to you that I'm not likely to get the crossbow confused with the sword.

* Smaller buttons

All the buttons seem smaller than in the original. Considering that time taken to hit a button with a pointing device is proportional to distance * size, this is an issue.

* Poor spatial positioning of action buttons:

The original DM had large action buttons that were always in the same place. DM2's buttons are much smaller, and in two widely separated rows (top and bottom). Worse, the menus for the top row fold *down*, while the menus for the bottom row fold *up*. Thus, the action to trigger the top two character's is completely different than from the bottom two.

Further, the bottom two characters still have their menu items stacked from the top. The top character's arent too bad: you click, the menu appears underneath your mouse with the mouse on the first item, and then you skim down (basically same as the original DM). To click a bottom character, you first move the mouse to the bottom of the area and click, then your eye needs to scan back *up* to find the first entry, and only then can you move the mouse. Shooting a weapon takes about 3x as long as it needs to.


On a less grumpy note, is food consumed faster (or time passes faster) in this version? I seem to run short on food a lot more quickl.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jay @ May 3 2005, 12:07 AM) [snapback]103403[/snapback]</div>Probably it is.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(TheChosen @ Feb 25 2005, 04:11 PM) [snapback]71696[/snapback]</div>Dungeon Master, Chaos Strikes Back, Black Crypt, these are the MUST!!! Albion, Stonekeep, Wizardry 7, Ultima Underworld 1+2. DM 2 I like the most.

download
 

please can someone tell me where i can actually download this game i can't find the link for it. thanks

It's still sold on CDAccess and on Amazon.
Therefore in accordance with our site policy we cannot offer it for download, nor help you find a download of it elsewhere.

http://www.abandonia.com/en/faq
First item ......

[Edit]
Burned by Fifth.:(

I first played this game at a friend’s house, then traded four PS1 games to be able to borrow it from him. I played it for ages, but couldn't get very far, until I got him to show me how to play. Unfortunately at that time he left town so I couldn't keep the game any longer. Since then I have wanted to play it, but could never find it, so glad it's unprotected made sure I got it before it gets protected again (if it does).

cant play, dosbox wont work either
 

wtf
so i run the dm2.bat file
click new

it exits to dos saying simply 'bye'

wtf??

I just tried playing it and it worked fine.

Did you run the setup? Also what file did you open the game with? I used DM2.bat.

It might help if you could tell us what that error when running DOSBox was.

i was trying to run skull.exe

apparently ''bye'' means ''your game has been installed, and you can now play it just fine''

thanks for offering help darth.

now on to getting my butt whupped by slimes

Not a problem, have a good time. :thumbs:

I am just about to beat his game. I am loving it so much. I remember logging some SERIOUS time back when I as a kid. I think once I beat it, I am going to start over and do a youtube run.

Ohhh man, so much nostalgia goin' on right now... But I seem to have a problem, as so many other have.

See, everything runs fine, perfectly in-fact, except the sound... NOT the music, but the sound. There IS no sound, and I don't know why. I run the setup, and I start playing around with that, and both the digital and music test work, but then start playing, and only the music plays.

I'm thinking it's something to do with DOSBox, but has anyone else run into this problem, would be wonderful to get some help in fixing this.

HI, mates
 

Hi, all,

Just started DM2. I did DM before some days.
My team:
Torham: Fighter, Ninja, Priest, Wizard
Net: Ninja, Priest
Bane: Fighter
Saros: Priest, Wizard

Gladly now we have 10 saving slots. Nice.
I am in the first store and just buy a compass.

Maybe some good soul (for example dear DarthHelmet86) will be so kind to give more details about spellcasting.
I know the formula of some spells but the process is not clear.
Thanks a lot for any help!

starting yoga

Read the manual, you can get it Here!

:D
Merci!

I DL it and now start reading.

Anyway now I am fighting with 2 Dragons or T-Rex near a tree (in the very beginning). Why these monsters are so strong?
Can not expect so strong resistance in the very beginning.
I am still relatively weak even armed with bow, rocks and saber and more.
May I know their HP?Bestiary?

Pls, excuse my Q.
Only in the beginning until I acquire the info required.

yoga Torham
:)

My progress.
:whistling:

Politely asking:

-May I eat a dead bat, please?
Or the bat may be poisoned?

Thanks a lot.

:3:

yoga the bat eater

Save your game then try, if it turns out bad you can load. Never hurts to try it out yourself first Yoga.

Don't do that at home kids, though :p

Thank You both, dear DarthHelmet86 and Master.

Seriously,
this is important for me, because I have little money for foods and killed about 20-25 bats underground. The customers do not buy the bats, y'now.

In the beginning DM2 is really more tough than DM1.
Hope with the progress it will be not so though.

..Rain, food shortage, light is miserable and strong Dragons and Slops.

Poor yoga the bat eater..

ha ha ha

OFF
Master, small child tries even a mood.:D
All stuff found - in the mouth!

I am playing now also Veil of Darkness with
the new maps, made by Paco the Great.

If you want to know if you can...just try yourself. I am not walking you through this game, especially when you could just save and try it out and see if it is alright or not.

Rats!
I definitely meet serious problem with game:

I started again and again-same bad result.

In my progress suddenly one or two members when I start to sleep immediately start loosing their stamina (flashing red images showing 15 or like numbers and after seconds hero(es) died).
The hero in question is not Thirsty, Hungry, Poisoned or Over loaded!
Yes, some bats are eaten but in the store these foods are sold.
Why?
I do not understand. No info in manual.

I already acquire the game atmosphere and the monsters are not big problem for me.

OFF
Because of some unknown problem I lose 2 posts in this theme!

:smile2:
Hurray!
At last this nasty thief (in DM1 I met many similar monster) was killed. How?
I used spell Fire and bow. It stoles all my rocks.
ha ha ha

Now before me are 4-5 Dragons.
I found special Techshield which allows teleportation from one red start to other. Very handy, indeed.
I think I solve the mysterious dead of my heroes.
Simple - they were very hungry and naturally after some time they died.

Now my weak point is the armor and weapons. If I develop these both factors my battling will be easy and victorious. But development needs money and they are not found on the ground. Gladly some crystals underground will help me much.

Dear DarthHelmeth86, may I politely ask You for some advices how to defeat these monsters. I know You are very busy but I an mean time You may advise stupid yoga.
Thanks a lot.

PS: Yes, one may eat dead bats without fear. They are NOT poisoned, dear Master, believe me.

:palm:

Please don't choke him with the manual... he's actually kind of funny. :)

I really feel that we need to get out more. You know, individually. Getting out more doesn't involve multiplayer over hamachi, peeps, it's actually opening the curtains, looking out the window, then putting some clothes on and going for a walk. If it's 30 below, I dunno, go for a drive instead. Play petanque. Shoot at frenchmen with a paintball gun because their shocked cries just sound so funny. Fix a bicycle. Not necessarily your bicycle, and it may not even really need fixing. Just ...try not to let your brains rot into glue filled with plastic monsters and bizarre snatches of music. That is all.

Amen to that. Gonna shoot some bunnies. Oh yes, and eat dead bats. Now that it turns out they're not poisonous :p

:3:
Sure, Master, they are not poisonous.

May I ask YOU very politely do YOU finished this game?
I think - Yes.

Privet.

yoga:hello:

Many years ago I made an attempt to play Dungeon Master 2. Assembled the party from some portraits in the walls. As soon as my party banged into a wall and took some damage, my attempt at playing this game ended :p
Didn't come further than that with this game so far. Don't want to die from hitting the walls all the time, that's too much realism in a game for me.

:hello:
Ha ha ha,

Unbelievable!

So clever Master hitting himself in the walls as a drunkard kasyak? Vo, vo.
Master, this game is very good. Believe me. Maybe, maybe better than Dungeon Master 1.
But Russan people said: По вкус и по цвет - товарищи нет. (There are no friends in taste).

Mdaa..
Rats!
Mama mia..
Dear Capo, how is possible to find no one, no two but three thieves before me!!
And.. I have no guarantee that no more exist!!!
I killed the first and said - Thank You , my Lord!
Then new one appeared! Po-ka Madona.
I killed and the second thief. They are not weak hitting me with 35 HP and knife. Again: Thank You again My Lord, hope this one is the last!

NO,NO,No! New one before me... Will end yoga torture some time?

If some gamer with good heart know the correct number of these nasty thieves pls let inform me.
--Listen yoga stop crying! What is one innocent thief against the brave who killed Lord Chaos? (This is the final boss in DM1).
---- No, no. First they are not innocent. Secondly they steal all the equipment I wear, all.

Thanks a lot for any info concerning this case.

Dear Kmonster, maybe You again will support the brave as You did many times?
Danke Sehr!! Hope You do not play Wizardry 10 now? Viele Arbeit? OK.

yoga aka killer of the thieves

The victorious brave advance
 

Beware:

These nasty bad thieves are unlimited - they simply re spawn.
So yoga found the place they re spawn, spell-cast non stop Fireball this way killing about 10 or more monsters. They provide me with gold coins - 4 pieces per monster. 5 Fireballs are enough for single thief.

Also the brown monsters who are like Dragons are unlimited - I name this place a Food farm - 7-8 Firebals are en. Nice place to collect food and crystals underground!!

Do not forget to improve your armor mainly. But I prefer to spell-cast Fireball and Teleport spells.

Now the brave enters the Wolf area.

Soon I will represent my heroes.

The respawned monsters in a rpg are a big mistake that is easily exploitable in that kind of games. I remember the wolves at the beginning of Eye of the Beholder :no:

:D
Si, Caro Capo.
They make my life more bitter.

Anyway the brave pass wolves area and now is fighting against some giant Axeman. Same thief!!

Mama mia! Are all the monsters thieves?

Yes, Eye of the Beholder 1,2 and 3 are nice games indeed..

After Betrayer at Krondor they are ones of favorites of the brave..

OFF
Terrible snow wave attacks sunny Bulgaria..
The snow is about 1 meter high..
We measured minus 30 Degrees in BG.
Italy? Sunny and beautiful.

Actually there are like 50 dead person cause the cold. Anyway im in the northest city in italy and still no snow :mhh:

SOS
 

Please, help me.

I just entered the Skullkeep, opening the door after completing all 4 clan keys.
But I am unable to run under 3 doors even using the Speed spell.
What I do?
I face 3 buttons on the walls. Right, center and left. The correct sequence is Right, left, center button. OK. I cast the spell Speed, then very fast press the 3 buttons and run to door 1.
No result. The door 1 is closed already..
When I do mistake?
Pls, help, I am trying two days unsuccessful attempts.

[NotVeryHelpful , I know, but ....]
This could help ....
[/NotVeryHelpful , I know, but ....]
:woot:

NICE
 

:doh:
Great!
Since this is not forbidden from Game Federation I will try the medicine hoping to increase my speed.

ha ha ha
poor stupid yoga
LOL

I like the humor very much, dear Dosraider..
:bleh1:
Anyway do YOU know this game and my present location?
Thanks a lot

What is the life without humor?
Just ice....

thankful yoga the runner :hihihi:

Oh yes, had to go through it, just as you will have to do.

Will I give you the answer ... nope.

Reason: all those games are made in a way to incite you to search, learn, try, try and try again till you find it.
What you asking (and I must say not only for this game but apparently for every game you play ..... ) is an easy walk through for yourself.
Every time you have a problem, you ask, in stead of searching for a solution ....

Not the way to play those ol'gems, and so I won't help you, as it's not really a tech problem, but a laziness problem.
If you don't like to try things out in several ways till you find the solution, if you don't like reading manuals, those aren't the games you should be playing....

Anyway, it's not meant as blame, just the way I see it. :no:

It is easy to insult unprotected yoga
 

Dosraider,
I never expected so unpleasant posting..

Ok.
With all my respect to You I will take opposite side knowing that to argue with member of AB staff is causa perduta.
First if You want yoga to be silent as sea clam You have no problem.
This may be my last post in AB after 6 years.
Secondly I feel too much hate in Your posting. Why?
I try to follow strictly AB rules.
I never offend any AB member or guest.
I make small donations.

I feel very upset after such words against me.

If possible please no more enter my threads and/or my postings.
I will forget the nick dosraider.

I plan to stop any posting in AB for a while ...and maybe forever.

insulted yoga

Cool down a bit will ya?
It's only my personal opinion, and that's all.
Post all you want, double, triple, quadruple and more, not my problem, really.

O.o But... Dosraider is not a member of the staff.
I don't know, maybe your translation is a bit off, but Dosraider is actually trying to be nice towards you (well, for his definition of "nice" ).
What he meant was that the point of these games is not in seeing the end cutscene but in the actual journey there - including the frustration, the countless attempts at figuring out another solution and reading the manual over and over for clues.
The more help you use to progress through the game, the less satisfaction you will gain from it.

And Yoga? This guy passed the gate by first casting the spell, then using Left, Right, Center and then running backwards through the door: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8cXTXMn3Vo

Hey guys! I don't post on the forums much but I love the site. I downloaded a bunch of my old dos favorites from here.

I wrote an article about this game, well partly about this game. Mostly how interesting it is for the player to learn the magic system. Please check it out and tell me what you think. Its called "Outsmarting the Game"

How has this game illuded me for all these years? It's pure awesomeness! :D

Sure, it is nice game.

Thats why yoga non stop tries to pass under fu---d 3 doors in the castle.
After days of reading WT and manuals and tests I realized that creating Guard Minions will help me to solve the problem. I make 3 Guard Minions but something is still wrong! Hmm.
I will try to find answer in site www.dmweb.free.fr

bad times for the brave, dear Kmonster, really.

blood in my heart, tears in my eyes
:palm:

:cry:

Si, si
 

Si, dear friend Capo,
the brave is upset
feeling that all is against humble peaceful yoga.
No any progress in the game DM2.
I hit the monster in Shadow Caster 1800 times (!!) with suriken, no result.
Master Scatty informed me that the game Ultima 8 Pagan is not so buggy game
( I am delighted You are so clever waiting to play the game after all bugs are solved ). I started this game 6 times and spend a year of my life to play it.
Maybe the bug is behind keyboard device, yes stupid yoga..

Believe me, I play DM2 - episode Castle Skullkeep 9 days already day and night and..no any result. How is this possible?
I read thousand manuals, millions WT (Excuse me I know You dont respect players who used WT), no results.
The worst of all is I am unable to see where is my fail.
Moreover I afraid to ask for help or advice because of bitter attacks of some hostile person(s). No, I will not tell the names of because my principle is NEVER offend human beings.
...What is the stopping point in the game? Simple:
The heroes must Very fast passed under 3 doors which fall down for milliseconds. That's all. I failed to do this. I passed both doors but 3-th is already down, stopping me. I tried and tried and I am very upset to know that many players did this action!?! I hate similar moments and this was the reason to stop 90% finished Prince of Persia 3.

Excuse me for this long and chaotic posting, but these are my feelings now.

Please allow me to say Bravo for your perfect work in You tube.
I saw many old games you presented.
Nice, perfect job!

yoga

Try what the guy did in that video:
* Cast the Speed Spell
* Input Left, Right, Center
* Start moving backwards very fast until you pass the gate

I'm not sure what you mean. I played Ultima VIII lots of times, enjoyed it despite the bugs and managed to solve it each time. That is, if the sentence above was addressed to me.
Aren't you acting a bit too sensitive because of dosraider's posts, by the way? People are not so friendly sometimes, so what, it's not the end of the world. It's their opinion, just shove it off and go on.

If you want to make some videos of this game youre welcome :OK:

I DID ! HURRAY!!NOCH EIN MALL!!!
 

At last!!

Oh, my God!!

I passed under the three doors. 14 days, but did at last.

Thank YOU dear the Fifth Horseman. Your help and support of AB members helped me much to pass this stop point. Please, little more details for future players of DM2:

First of all face all three doors in question. The central button is back. You see 2 wall buttons only. Left (your ex-right) button and right (your ex-left) button. Start spell Accelerate and very fast press the left and the right buttons and run to gates. You will pass the first and second doors. Nice. Now create 4 Guard Minions. Use spell Oh-Zo-Ew-Meta 4 times with one of your priests. If mana finished dont worry but Zzzzz. Be sure that under door 1 and 2 stay one Minion.
--How to understand, yoga?
Simply - turn left or right in doors and you have to see Minion.
OK. Now very carefully step to alcove of buttons facing now the central button. Again Accelerate. Ready!! My tactic: I pressed the central button with mouse and very, very fast pressed keyboard button this way running as devil with my back to doors. The Minions helped me keeping little more up the doors (actually the third door) and the brave won.
Sorry, the explanation is little bit long but correct.

@The Fifth Horseman - My deep and sincere thanks.

@Master Scatty - Master, I mean Capo's words that he always play the games after all the bugs are removed.
Master, sorry I am little bit more emotional. Y'now I am southerner anyway.

@Capo - Si, Caro Capo, but You know how lazy is the brave. and there will be high jinks 3 days and nights after so remarkable action of yoga.
Second - I dunno how to make video of some game in progress.
If I know maybe I will do my best to help AB in Youtube.

the happy yog

If you play it with dosbox just press CTRL+ALT+F5 to Start/Stop creating a movie, if you dont have time no problem, do it only if you want ;)

Si, si.

Yes, I use DosBox v. 0.74.

Please excuse me the first video of Dungeon Master was not perfect. No my fault.
Now I will do my best.Have You some special requirements for the video? Seconds, minutes? Battle scenes or calm traveling?
Pls feel free to ask me.

It will be real pleasure to help AB esp. Caro Capo.
I have all the time of the world.
:whistling:

Usually we need the intro, a gameplay session that show the basic feature of the game and the ending, anyway do it as you like :)

:D
Rodger that, amigo.
Please, tell me the length of the videos, appr.
20 seconds, 30 seconds or minute or more?

Merci.

Heavy fighting all the day with 4-5 skeletons at the back side of the castle in the underground. I am forced to run through 3 - 4 doors using large gear to start mechanism, open the door, take back the gear and again. If fail I fall down and these skeletons attack me. So, to prevent these attacks I plan first to eliminate the skeletons and then to run to doors.

@Capo
I start today video of game play and did a file. Skull.001.avi - but file was so gigantic - 400 MB and lasts 31 minutes.
Ha ha ha
I will do file about 2 minutes. OK, Capo?
:whistling:

Sure, i will cut it, the youtube limit should be 10 or 15 minutes.

OK. Plz check your PM.
Grazie.

Mates, I am fighting one week with these monsters in the maze of Skullkeep castle.
They are not skeletons but Ghosts.

May some good soul advise me about their HP ?
I rummage the all Google for similar info, no result..
Rats!!
I spent all my food resources!! Now have to back for food!!
Mama mia..

Then I have to run as a devil under 3-4 doors using gear-wheel.
To open a door I have to put in the wheel, which switch the unlocking mechanism, the door opens, then take back the wheel, again if one do not fail down when the ghosts wait me..

Sadly i met here the very unpleasant riddles in RPG - time limited ones - for me.
Anyway RPG are not races but thinking games.
Of course the riddles bring some specific color and taste of the games, but good riddles like Chinese riddle in Ultima 8 Pagan, not FO1 riddle; 25 minutes left to save the Vault...

Progress
 

The last hot communique from the battle field:

- The victorious army of the brave just passed the second riddle (doors again) and prepared to enter big fight with the boss Dru Tan.
During the test I realized It will attack me with deadly poisoned fire.
Wow!!

:whistling:

the brave

Big progress
 

The very last hot communique from the battle field:

- The victorious army of the brave just killed the second boss Dru Tan.
My tactic:
Take foods and water much more. Do not forget at least 2 empty bottles.
--Why, brave?
-Because famous Dru-pan will hit You with Poison Clouds.
With these empty bottles the priest may creates anti-poison potions.
Use VI BRO spell and voila. To be fast against this gorilla-like monster left on the ground some stuff. Nice.
Now my battle tactic:
Step by step I found the location of the monster. ..And sate the direction to the monster with Guard and Attack minions.
Five Guards, then one Attack minions. Relax. Prepare. Cure some wounds. Again same method. This way I do not enter direct duel with monster but my minions did the job.
Yes, Kmonster, I was little bit more careful because I duno what to expect.
Caro Capo, it is easy to explain when all is finished. But after the words are many, many hours before monitor and .. what to do? Hit and run to save place or stand up and hit Dru-Pan with axes and like.. and evaluate some battle variants, y'now..
Now the brave is too tired. In snow BG (not Baldur Gate, Master, but Bulgaria :hihihi:) is deep night and your humble slave will goto bed..

Feel free to ask me any questions conc. this moment of the game.
:whistling:

the brave

PS: Soon i will show my champions' armors and weapons and more images..

I want to discuss some moments with AB members or guests who passed this games.
No, no more Q..
ha ha ha

Bravo Yoga :2thumbs:

Grazie..:hihihi:

I did big and fast progress.

I will fight against the 3-th boss of the game - some Giggler, small, no strong, but very fast gnome who is running up-down and pressing some buttons to activate wall fire toward me.

But yoga is not novice and ...

Maybe I will prepare more and more interesting fighting scenes....
:whistling:

FUN
 

Hi, i had very funny episode before 3 minutes.

ha ha ha

Can You imagine, mates, I have to blast down a flying case!
Yes, case. It flied up-down like a crazy one.
So funny. I sent many Minions; Guard and Attack and Yes- they blasted this flying object. It contained so important suction fuse which i installed in the machine.
ha ha ha
First time in my gamer life (it is not short believe me i see such funny task - excellent for programmers).

In my next posting You will see the brave team of champions and more details.:D

TY

Info
 

Hello again,
Here is my team of champs and some more info:

TORHAM BANE HET SAROS
leader
Green Yellow Red Blue color
I line, left , I line, right II line, right, II line, left
Master Fighter Master F-r Novice F-r Master p-t
Charfstman Novice N-a App Ninja Master pr-t
Ninja
Master Priest
Master Wizard Apprentice Wizard MasterWizard
Str. 75 71 39 35
Dex 63 64 66 37
Wis 68 59 67 67
Vit 52 50 41 46
Antimagic
48 44 73 64
Antifire
66 34 52 52
Equipment
Fire shield Tech shield Crystal shield Special

Vorax Vorax Blue steel Blue steel

Fire helm Fire helm MY helm Armet
Fire plate Fire plate MY plate Breast plate
Fire poleyn Fire poleyn Tech poleyn MY poleyn
Tech boots Tech boots Fire greave Fire greave
The leader is injured.

Money – many – cannot count.
I have Kalan gauntlet, Eye of time, Clan chief gem, magical box, Guard minions, Emereald orb, Serpent staff, Numen staff, Combat staff, Tempest, Storm ring, Cross bow, Compass and many maps.

I am using DosBox v. 074 under Windows 7 Ultimate, 32-bit
No any problem with game speed.
Music and sound – On.
No any freezing.
I met 1 bug only: You may create many blue steels (Axemen area).
But team needs no more than 2 pieces.

Note: Word MY shows 2 magic symbols , it is not ordinary word.

Location: In Skullkeep castle, before battle with 3-th boss.
Game started at 29 Jan 2012, 20:32

No progress still
 

Bloody fighting of the brave army in the dungeon of Slullkeep castle with that green boss Giggler.
Even in this moment I hear the advancing of Giggler and fuc*ed Attack enemy minions. I am using now Alt-Tab to switch between my game and writing.
Rats!
I neglect the vitality of the monster and this way I was forced to load again save file, because:
- I have no enough food and water
- No escape till the monster is alive!
So I have to do better battle plan and prepare for max. difficulties.
The worst of situation is that except monster I was attacked permanently by enemy minion.
Moreover I still do not understand the un(logic) of monster behavior and what is it the best weapon against it.
Practically the battle scene is closed small labyrinth with wall fire holes, which blasted me and green buttons pressed by Giggler to start attack against me. With buttons the monster initiated the start of fireballs from wall holes. Thats ll.

I met from time to time the monster pressing buttons before me. But the time is not enough for 3-4 hits with Vorax sabre and blasts killed 2-3 champions. Yes, I killed then the monster but I do not want this sacrifice victory. Because if i resurrect my champs they will lose all experience and levels.
Not acceptable situation.
I tried to send Attack and Guard minions first. No result.
Then I tried Fireball spell. Same result.
Maybe Vorax hits will be better way.

Giggler is kaput!
 

Yes, but this victory has price:
One of my champs was killed.
- yoga, give more battle info?
OK. The battle scene is small, simple labyrinth.
There are 3 save points where the monster can not hit me.
Monster tactic:
Usually it waits me at some corner under the button which activate wall fire cannons (actually 2 holes on the wall).
If i make attempt to approach him, it blasts me immediately.
One of these blasts eliminate 1 or 2 members of my team.
It is impossible to stay at distance of the monster and beat it with
bow, fire balls or poison cloud.
Yes, the brave may step aside, fireball and back very fast to save place. But no effect of fireball, I think.
Plz, do not forget that this is time limited (i hate time limited games). It runs, brave runs and time expired. I carry on about 16 steaks for 4 champs only. Water also is not much. I am unable to back to my camp resoures because when I enter the battle scene , no back till Giggler is alive.
Brave tactic:
I used to use Scout map. So if the monster is not so far from me, map shows its location. Nice. Then i used my Eye of time and freeze the time approaching
Giggler. 2-3 hits with Vorax and spell out. It runs again.
So as a game " Mouse and cat" we continued.
Suddenly I found that in some corner it may blast one time only and can not escape. I prepared and attacked Giggler with all my fury. One, two, three, four or five Vorax hits. It blasted me and ...one of my champs fall down..but Giggler was dead already.
That's was all.
Then I resurrect my dead champ and...yes, the game continues.
:smile2:

Well done brave hero! Guess now you have to level your died party member up again for a while, hm? Seeing as he would be at level 1 again, as you mentioned further above.

Yes, dear Master.

Anyway Saros (the killed champion) is able to prepare some basic spell and that is enough.

Moreover my leader Torham now can do everything that was done by Saros.
So the brave does not feel confused and his team is as strong as before this incident..

This game is nice, perfect RPG..
Maybe, maybe it will be my favorite together with Betrayer at Krondor and Ultima 8-Pagan :hihihi:.

OFF
I have NO any problem with Abandonia site today.

But I do some fail. I used only mouse to control my move and all the game play. This is bad because when I meet enemy I have to switch very fast with mouse which delay my battle speed.
My friends told me: No, yoga, you have to use for move your left hand using buttons from small keypad namely 1,2,3,4,5,6 and mouse for spell, opening etc only.
So I have to reorganize my game play before last battle with final boss.
..and Caro Capo is waiting video of this last fight..
No more time lefts to the coming end.
Anyway i train new method and train..

Note: Master, actually there is no need to kill that bad Giggler. Killing this monster gives me 2-3 objects, which are not fatal for the gaming. But my gamer pride says: yoga, it is not good to skip your duty, your enemies. I do not want to be blamed again as in the game Arena, when You told me: Hey, yoga, why you do not battle with the boss?:hihihi:
BTW he was immortal in direct duel...
ha ha ha

Greetings from
yoga from Skullkeep castle dungeon..
:perv:

5 ram pushing heads
 

What a game is DM2, mama mia!

Just the brave pass some difficult point and ..no relax.. but another more difficult point appears..

Yes. If You remember the game Prince of Persia 2, You can remember how from the wall jump out some big cutters under spring tension which cut off the Prince head at once.
Here are not sharp cutters but blunt wood ram heads which push me one level down through pits on the floor where of course wait me not good friends with wine and fruits but angry Attack minions and poison archers..
Even casting Accelerate spell my bottom is red after so many failings down.
Ha ha ha
The road to glory is thorny!
:whistling:

Some Net "wizard" states proudly that if the gamer is good (!?) s(he) may pass the game for 5-6 hours..
Stupid nonsense..

humble brave plays every day min. 7-8 hours so long period (of course i am not good gamer) and progress so slow..
I want to enjoy the games played and i do not like running like idiot.
The Russians said - сумасшедший (crazy man).:smile2:
Anyway the army of the brave will make attempts to pass these stupid ram heads; there are not one but 5!!!

Passed! Hurray!
 

:3:
The brave has the pleasure to announce that after 10 days he passed these fuc*ed (sry) ram heads which put me one level down.

How?
Not easy, not easy. But possible.
Listen:
- First of all the gamer have to create 2-3 Guard minions on duty to protect you when dealing with ram heads.
This requires speed and timing in rather large quantities. First cast your Accelerate spell, then carefully watch the movements of the rams. If the ram is extended on the way in or on the way out then you will get pushed into the pit. Start off with the ram furthest to the east. Wait until the ram is on the in-stroke, and when it's almost reached the wall you can rush past.
-Done? Bravo..
Immediately create new minions, no time for sleeping.
Again and again. I think the heads are about 5-6.

Now the humble brave is in Reflector room (room with many teleporters).

happy brave
:D

Today is 1 April ...
 

Hurray,


I did DM2.

Details tomorrow.

Plz, any congrats tomorrow.

TY.

yoga
:p

:D

ha ha ha

Yesterday Joke
 

:hihihi:
Hello,

My yesterday (1 April) posting was, of course, joke..

Anyway, tremble Dragoth, because the brave is approaching now..

Nasty Attack Minions
 

Well, i am progressing in this game now.

One of its bad aspect is the presence of these nasty Attack minions.
I do not remember another game with such option.
The gamer has no calmness everywhere. And every time.
To restore one has to create at least 2-3 Guard minions and only then to press the button Restore (Zzzzz).
These minions are flying merciless ball-like creatures which appear in the very inappropriate moments namely - No light, No food, No mana and critical HP or these all together.
No such game, believe me, I know many RPG.
Even in Dungeon Master 1 the protagonist may stop, relax, restore and plan future battle plan.

The final boss Dragoth has 1500 HP.
My leader Torham has 450 HP, Bane and Net - 220HP and Saros- 260HP. Or
450+ 2 x 220+260 = 1150 HP

yoga 1150
Dragoth 1500

I am approaching the final battle location and do not believe I will increase more my team parameters.
No, I do not cry but compare this game with another RPG.

Hi, mates and players of DM2,

I am approaching the final battle location (now i am at level 3), the next is only Roof and Dragoth room, a very kind and sincere boss.

Ha ha ha

But there are some very extraordinary activities to be done.
The brave has to be Fireman, Boiler man, Pump man. OK. I am diploma engineer so these ones are not problem for me, but together with this fitting the brave has to eliminate the never ending attacks of enemy Attack minions.
No time for restore or relax if no guards around me.

@DarthHelmeth86
Would be so kind in mean time to share Your battle experience in final fight?
Thank You very much.
:smile2:

Roof
 

:smile2:
The victorious army of the brave just reached the Roof.
The next room is the final battle room where waits me Dragoth - the final monster.
I have to set 2 reflectors from Storage room the way that they will blast the crystal which will open Zo-link and free the road to Dragoth.
And all the machinery have to be in working condition.
Hmmm.. not so easy, because the enemy Attack minions non stop are hunting after me.

:3:

brave before last battle
 

The brave is before the Chamber of Void.

Yes, the Zo-link is opened.
I have to close myself with a big table to stop the Attack minions invading from the Skullkeep, then cross the moving platforms, meet Dragoth and ...yes
defeat it.

I will prepare for last battle and make some try tests.

ha ha ha
:smile2:

My location and preparation
 

Well, I am in the tunnel before the Chamber of Void.
I pulled a table to stop minions coming from the Castle.

Anyway, I have no minute calmness, even to make ready some spells as Acceleration and other.
I am under non stop attacks of minions which hit me even through the table.
This is attack from castle side.
Second attacks are from Chamber side.

So the brave is between two enemy fires.
I have to pass two crashing bridges before my lovely meeting with nice Dragoth.

Note:
New gamer, do not make my fail to play the game not using keys 1,2,3,4,5,6 of keypad.
Now in the final battle one have to use above keys for move and mice for spells and like.
Rats!!
:picard:

Alright yoga, all the Grimrock Hype has inspired me to play Dungeon Master again, I am already finished with DM1 and Chaos Strikes back, now part 2! So far I have to say the graphics are total crap compared to Dungeon Master 1, it just looks like a blurry brown mess (especially outside) compared to the sharp and clear look of part 1.
But I do love the shopkeepers, first I bought Axe and Rapier, then I killed lots of those steak beasts and sold their meat, and now I could afford a Fire Poleyn leg armor, much needed +15 strength and lots of protection.

:hello:
Bravo, keep doing this way.

But i think to beat the final boss pls play with small keypad's keys 1,2,3,4,5,6 for moving and mouse for spells and like.

Use one of shops for your base. You will find many stuff.
Would be so kind inform me who are your champions?
TY.

Train and train and train because You are in stage with no attacking minions.
But soon they will appeared and then situation will be bad.

Beware from some nasty thief. He is not mortal but regenerates.

Yes, Lord Chaos had killing hits but Dragoth is much more strong with helping and attacking minions he creates non-stop.

I wish YOU good luck.

yoga the brave
still in tunnel


Do You have a map?
If not, use this one link
http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/182
You may find more info there.

:hihihi:

Yes I am using that site extensively, I hate these riddles and jump and run sections. I am using the keypad, too, but it took some getting used to since it is such unusual numbers, this can probably be altered in dosbox somehow, I was too lazy to check.
You are right, the minions are annoying, but with a strong fireshield (runes: 4,5,4) up they are just a minor nuisance. Also you can reflect their attacks with the techshield spell timed right.I read your old posts in this thread and hated the rams section, too, I don't know why someone would design something like that in a RPG, this is not Sonic the Superhedgehog or whatever!
Well, my Champions are Torham, Tresa,Odo and Aliai. Torham and Tresa in front fighter masters.The other two both priest and wizard. I didn't do much chosing, just picked the ones with good strength, pretty portraits and some magic, because I always got annoyed when the chars are overloaded in DM1 and Chaos strikes back. I the end the all develop with training the same anyway, so its not too important who to pick, but the extra strength is noticable when you carry stuff.

Now I am near the end (I have no other life) and the chars are mostly experts and some masters, some adepts, certainly not very highly trained like in DM1 and chaos, but apart from the annoying jump and run elements the game isn't nearly as hard or complicated as chaos strikes back(that one is a mindbender even with maps and solution), so I'm doing fine.
But I have to say the game begins to suck from the moment you enter the Keep, it is just annoying. I mean outside it was great fun to sell loot and build up the chars with the shop phatz, it was awesome, pure RPG fun, I liked it better than DM1 and chaos, but now its terrible.Its not hard combat wise, just annoying me the things you have to do to progress. I'll probably finish it later today, just for the sake of finishing it.

Cheaters everywhere :perv:

:lol:
Caro Capo,
pls why YOU hate the cheaters so much.

Believe me friend, the games are terrible difficult so little help (You name this help cheat) is good idea.
RPG as You know is not Doom 2 where the hero goes and fires to all moving objects.
For example pls try to pass these fuck*ed rams heads. Try please!
..and then again speak with the brave.
:3:

@Jamotide
You are good player making so big progress.
I am not so fast because I work on 2 more project:
- Ultima 8 Pagan - I started that game 6 times and failed.
- Shadow caster - still can not kill this monster.

Would be so kind give a little info 'bout Chaos strikes back, pls?

I passed DM1.
I agreed with You and i hate these run as a devil moments in DM2 especially running under 3 doors when enter the castle.

I am very glad i have a companion in DM2.

May i very politely recommend You Ultima 8 Pagan after finishing DM2 and if You did not played yet.


Viva Italy!! and Juve..
ha ha ha
:hello:

I finished now, the end fight is somewhat of a challenge, had to reload a couple of times. Anyway, I already started again, the first half of the game is very motivating! I just wanna sell steaks and buy mad phatz all day!
This time I play only with Torham and Kol, a fighter. He has 0 mana, but with staff and stuff he can learn magic quickly. Well I already chopped alot of steaks and bought 2 fire poleyn and Excsymir...fun! Not sure I will continue with the skullkeep part.
Chaos strikes back is the hardest of all Dungeon Masters, its better to import a good group from DM1. And the Dungeon Design is crazy, you dont go from level 1 to 10 like in DM1, rather 4 sections all over. Plus you fight the biggest monsters all the time, Dragons and such. Traps everywhere, not much water. And even if you look at the maps you need to study them for half an hour before you understand what the hell is going on and where you are.
Its still more fun than the keep part of DM2. You should play it, but dont get discouraged in the beginning, you are literally thrown into a dark pit with no armor or weapons and immediatly attacked by lots of worms. First cast light!

I am not sure I will play Ultima 8, I liked Ultima 6 very much and recently played it again, but I dont have good memories of Ultima 7 and 8, they seemed more like action games, I'm probably wrong, I did not play them much.
I never heard of shadow caster. Is italy your hero there and juve the enemy? (joke)

:clap:

Great!

My congrats, Hero!

You are good player..

I am still at Ultima 8 Pagan in some isle preparing for 8 foci's if remember?

.... You may eat even dead bats! Ha ha ha
Probably You know that the prices of the first shopkeeper are better than these of the one in the second town, which is back to Giant that trowed weapon?

(sry for delayed answer but i was all the day trying to install Win XP Pro in my virtual machine together with ME and 7 without success:crybaby:)

TY for Chaos strikes back info.
Hmmm.. difficult.
Do You know that my second nick is the brave?
(humble one). So I plan to play it soon.
:smile2:
Concerning Ultima 8 Pagan, allow me with all my respect to You to defend another thesis. I think U8 is a good game....Action game is Doom 2, i think. U8 is typical RPG. Yes, the protagonist is one, not six members as in Xeen.

Conc. shadow caster - so old game that few know it. The only hero transforms from human to bear and visa verse..

Italy and Juve
Caro Capo is very respected from me. He is perfect gentleman and Italian, who support the wrong football team - Juve.

Your humble slave supports the right team - Lazio.
We have this joke.

yoga

Have you guys ever had success with "Ninja" characters? It just seems so much worse than having a weapon. But maybe I am wrong?

If by ninja you mean unarmed, I can only suspect it is not very effective, but I never really tried. Dont think I ever got higher than expert ninja or so.
If you mean bows and throwing stuff, thats very good, but extremely annoying, since you have to spend so much time picking up all the ammo. (They really improved that in Grimrock, there you just walk over the ammo and the chars pick it up on their own.)

I almost feel like playing DM1 yet again, it is so strangely addictive.

Yoga, you are probably right about U8,I did not try it properly, but I have very bad memories of it,15 years ago or so I was having immense fun with U6, so I got U8 and all I could do was jump around some strange landscape and I quickly got tired of it.



PS: The shopkeepers do indeed have different prices, the one near the axe throwers is much cheaper but also pays much less, right?

OFF
Ha, ha
Try U8 again, as I tried this game 6-7 times. Yes, i did because something was wrong and i freezed at Pit of the Dead.
For me U8 and UW2 are the best games from Ultima saga.
Some of another ones are with bad view of the hero - perspective from above, i do not like it. U9 is bad game. Pls this is a personal opinion and i do not like to begin discussion. Ty
I passed U8.
I finished Shadowcaster.
:D

The first shopkeeper gives me better prices, yes.

But i did a fatal fail with D2: I started the game using only the mouse and now in final battle i have no time to move, shot and move again fast.
Rats!!
Have to use the small keypad for moving and cast with the mouse.
Stupid me..Shame..

angry yoga

Hmm.. in a mean time i will start The Chaos strikes back.
TY for encouraging words.

:smile2:

Hey guys! Took me like a year but I finally made my DM2 spell reference guide! If anyone is still playing this game you should find it pretty useful. Please check it out and tell me what you think!

DM2 spellbook

I know it's an old topic but I just found out something that might be useful to anyone having problems getting this game to start.

After trying out everything, I finally got it to work by downloading the game from here: http://www.oldgames.sk/en/game/dunge...eep/downloads/

The package also comes with a specifically pre-configured install of DosBox, tailored to run specifically DM2. But for me, it seems that it was only the bad install that was causing the errors, not my DosBox configs.

I am running the game filtered with Super2xSai engine and in windowed mode currently. Everything works like it should!