Star Control 2
 

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

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U said 2morrow, didnt ya...not today... :?

Kosta is in Croatia, Croatia is several time zones ahead of us, for Kosta, it is the 6th now.

Yeah, the server is in a different time zone so the dates come out funny :)

Game not working for me...
 

It ALWAYS shows a picture of Beta Cygnus (with the coordinates of Beta Cygnus).

It ALWAYS fails when I tell it 'Beta Cygnus'.

Anyone else have this problem?

dont type beta

That was me as guest. Umm this game is hard. i leave the earth solar system and get accosted by some aliens straight away. i can shoot but my ship turns so slow. maybe i should use the shuttle thingy.

Just fyi this games seems to run good under win xp so far.

Oh and i wanted to say how great your site is. Ive visited alot of abandonware sites and yours is great. Best ive seen ever.

Hey guys, this game is a great addition, easly one of the best games ever once you figure out how to play it.

In case you didnt know the original designers of this game offer it for free on their website, i think its a different version to the one you have here. I belive its the port of the 3do version of the game what ever it is i think its better than the origanl in terms of compatibility. Btw they renamed this version 'the ur-quan masters' you can get it here : http://sc2.sourceforge.net/

just download the one called The ur-quan masters

Also ive just read on a pretty dedicated (to the whole series) fansite and *they say* that none of the star control games are freeware so its *illegal* to download them, i dont know about that especailly as this is the old version and is regestered under a different company to the guys that actully made it and are re-relesing it under 'the ur-quan masters' just a heads up admins :).

Also for a fantastic website with walkthrough and stuff for this game visit :
http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/
im not affiliated with these guys at all im just posting the site cause it has basicly everything you need to know about the game.

don't leave the solar system so soon! go to earth!

even though it works well, when i try to go into the moon base building with my lander it crashes!
help!

ok that was me again..
Abandonia keeps logging me out though!
but my main concern is Wing Commander and Starcon2 are STILL not working properly!!!
AND noone has answered my plea!

Just download The Ur-Quan Masters from a few posts up.

It has ports for several operating systems and runs very well on modern machines.

Plus it contains several enhancements found in the 3do version of Star Control 2 including remixed music and voices, with the option to turn any of those enhancements off.

does anyone knwo if those "Traders" in some other systems (liek apha centauri) realyl dissapear in 2559 (or osmething) they tell you that they iwll leave in 4 years. do they really leave? if so it 's impossible to find all the rainbow worlds for them to get their technology needed for final clash.

BTW the game runs a bit too fast for me in combat so i used cyborg and it's not bad to sit back and watch it.

Great game, wish it was in 3D like Elite or Frontier.

it also has an interesting bug that give you basically unlimited money.

Gregor yeah there is a time limit on this game and if u wait around long enough then the traders (melnorme) will dissapear. But if u know where the rainbow worlds (and some other important info) are then u can finish the game in just a few months, game time that is.

Btw playing the computer in melee is half the fun turning on cyborg prolly give u a bit of a disadvantage considering how easy it is to take advantage of the computer.

it's easy to take advantage on computer? how? i mean i know that ships have teh ir characteristics but some computer ships are just way too strong. i guess i got to try mellee some more.

This is one of the best games of all time, and the first computer game I ever bought.

Yes, the traders leave in about 2559 - because that's the year that the game ends. I won't give away the ending, but let's just say that they have good reason to get the hell out of dodge.

umm. forgive me if I am dumb but how do you get past the questions that it ask you when you start up the game? it doesn't seem to say in the manual (all it says is to press space when it shows you a pic of a star!?! I tried and it don't work) so maybe (probly) I'm just missing somthing ovious here (I do that alot :P ) so help plz! :evil:

You have to type in the name of the star.

Just search for the location in the manual, like 13342 : 3431 or something like that :P and then type in the name of the star that shows up with those directions.

BUT do not type in the first word (ETA, ALPHA, BETA and so on) as these are not the name of the star, but the name of the system.

Happy gaming.

this is a true gem

thanks I got it now an its a really! fun game that is why I am up at 4am typeing this an then going to pkay the game! :roll:

SC2! I love this game, but i cant play it :(
If i press ALT+TAB (see the correct answer of the question on the "what is the strat name" page) the application freez. I use WIN2K.

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
download that version, its made but the guys who orignally made the series, they are giving it away for free now and putting alot of work into it

its works fine in win 2k (i use win 2k as well) and even comes in a window format if u like

but the lander cheat doesnt work for this version ;p

Hey there! Just started playing this game and I was wondring how do i use that Umgah Caster thingy (or what ever its name is). And also where are those Rainbow stars that the Mlhems are talking about?!?
and last thing do u get to bulid things other then Space crafts in this game? I mean can u bulid mines and stuff or are u domed collecting those minerals? cause boy that is a really really boring job. And it's not very rewarding (I'm always short out of money). plus the time it take to get from place to place in hyper space i mean i use auto pilot but still i find myself sometimes just staring for couple of minutes at that red screen...
Well as u see im kinda lost with this one and would like any help u can offer. :blink:

lol well your doing a few things wrong :) if you just want to check a walkthru or look for some hints this page : http://www.classicgaming.com/starcontrol/ has probably all the info you need but ill answer what u asked in ur post anyways

the umgah caster is in the possession of the spathy basicly just allow your alliance with them to run its course (u are allies by now right?) and they will one day give it to u out of the blue there is also another caster in the game that does the exact same thing, im forget where if u wanna know look on that site i mentions for the burvux caster (or a name similar to that)

there are several rainbow worlds rather than list them here go to the site :)
when u give most of the locatoin to the melorme u should have alot left over, with that u can buy fuel from them and save urself some creds

no u cant build mines if u look on that site u can find a list somewhere of relly rich mineral systems mabye u should try that but yeah i always found mining a pain in the ass. if u sell one of your casters to the drugge they will fill your fuel tanks to maximum capacity no questions asked, so heres a way to stick it to them outfit your starcrusier with nothing but the advanced high capacity fuel cells ie get rid of ur guns and crew pod and anything else and just have fule tanks then sell a caster then got back to sol and sell all ur fule, that should be enuf money for quite some time

also hyperspace is not a good way to travel, look on that site for how to get the 'quasi space portal spawner' that will save u alot of time and money, its to long to explain how to do it and this poist is alredy a mile long :)

hope that helps

Thankis for the help m8' I actually got the thingy from the spathi and manged to do sevreal other things by myself (just after I posted my whine for help in this forums' figured what the heck lets smoke something and try cracking it by mself). I havent manged to get that thing that suppose to make hyperspace travel tons of fun though and also the fuel problem starts to really annoy me (seems like I spending TONS of RUs on fuel.... man I thought in the future it'll be different what about that solar power everything been talking about back in the 80's' they just a bounch of useless clowns i tell u. those scientes i mean) anyway thanks for the info.

heres a tip around the 17th-21st of each month a wierd blob appers in hyper space, its an area near the spathi area so ask them if anything wierd is happing and i think they say around about where it happens go there its the start of how to answer the fuel problem

fuel is a total bitch, the first thing i do in that game is start this 'quest' type thing.

i think the spathi will tell u about it anyways, u need to ask one of the random captains who are just flying around hyper space if memory serves

Okay finished the game, nice ending though pitty u have to marry that syren, i mean why buy the cow when u can just buy it's millk :twisted: Anyway thanks for the help, it's a good game i liked the humor in it/ did they ever make another one? (I think i played Sc3 as a child didnt I?)

i dont remember marrying the siren, yes there is a number 3 but most hardcore star control fans hated it the guys that made the first 2 had no say whatso ever in how the 3rd was made and alot ppl thought it was a crap game

ur not marryed to siern in number 3 thats for sure, shes not even in it

Well u sure as hell marry her in number 2. in the it turns out that its all a story u tell to ur grandchildren and they ask about grandma (which is that blue chic). but hey maybe there are couple of endings because I slept with the syren which is optienal i guess B)

Yes, that is true. There are a couple of different endings in SC2, depending on how you played the game.

yeah i slept with the siren as well, i guess i just dont remember the ending all that well

Wow, I must try this game out, as well! :D

I downloaded Starcon 2 but I can't run it becasue for some odd reason I can't download the Dosbox or the C:/ programs I need to run it.


Whenever I try to pick a mirror to downlaod them the page freezes or it instead loads up this Searchlocate.com page.

I love this game!!! PLEASE someone HELP ME!!!! :cry:

you can reach me at dword58@hotmail.com or Beast58@ijustdontcare.com

OR find me on AIM as Beast58888

thanks

Wait, forget what I just posted!

What I need is Adolbe Acrobat! The game works but without the manual I don't know the names of the stars! I downloaded thwe manual but I don't have Adolbe Acrobat on my comp.

I tried downloading the Acrobat off of the Adolbe website but that's when I had the same problem as I did when I tried Downloading the Dosbox mirrors.

now, SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

I will be forever endebted to anyone that helps me get Adolbe Acrobat so I can read the manual B)

The pages freeze? :blink:
Perhaps you just need to deactivate the download manager you're using?
Also you you using Internet Explorer? If not, try that with it and see if that helps. Write more if that didn't help. ;)

Hmm.... You are absolutely right!

Some of the manuals (a lot actually) are in .pdf format. And since we try to place everything you need for the games available on the site, I think we should add Adobe Acrobat Reader in the UTILITIES part of the site.

Kosta will have to decide on that one, but my vote is to place it on the site :ok:

download manager? where on my comp is that???

yes I use Internet Explorer

Ok I found a loop hole. I printed off the Starmap and was able to answer the star question at the beginning that way.

NOW when the menu shows up when I hit "Start a new game" or any button for that matter it simply freezes!

PLEASE HELP :cry: :cry: :cry:

I'm really not a computer wiz so please if you could help I'd really appreciate it. Oh I am running Windows XP if that tells you anything.

PLEASE HELP ME I'M DESPERATE :cry: :lol:

Is there any way to get sound to work in this version of SC2?

Melee just isn't the same as it was 10 years ago without the pkunk swearing...=D

yeah I was able to successfully download and play other games off this site and none of them have working sound.

But I STILL can't play SC2!!!!!

can anyone help??

Have you tried DOSBox?

I can't download DOSBOX

can someone send it to me in email or through AIM???

OK!

I finally got the DOSBOX downloaded how do I use it???

how do I play Starcon2 through it! when I start it up its in zdirectory and I can't switch over to C drive! HELP!!! :cry:

A great game. I liked Starflight a bit better from the 80's but Star Control II was soo funny and the music was among the best for it's time. I'm glad people are still enjoying it.

Hahahaha suckers who have the computer star-map LOL . I have the original full one.

Good for you... :rolleyes:
But scanning it still will provide others with the "near-oroginal" map, so go crying elsewhere... sucker... :max:

I haven't tried this one, but have had great time with a free remake "The Ur-Quan Masters". It has new musics (better quality, but but big download) and works without DosBOX. It is the same game, however. Well, atleast so I have read... If someone has problems downloading/running this one, here is the link: http://sc2.sourceforge.net/

I think someone already posted the link, but am not sure.

As for how to run DosBOX:

You have to create new shortcut for DoxBOX.exe (right-click on and to choose "create shortcut" or something like that). Then you have to some properties of the shortcut (right-click the shortcut, choose "Properties". There are two paths (C:\abc\...) in there. One is the path of dosbox.exe, other is the folder the program dosbox runs is run from. You have to add path to the game you want Dosbox to run after the path of dosbox.exe.

Here is dosbox path with address to program called XYZ.xyz in folder sc2 in folder games on your c-drive after it. I don't know what is the name or type (.exe or .bat, probably) of the starcon2 program, you have to solve that yourself.

C:\DOSBox-0.61\dosbox.exe c:\games\sc2\XYZ.xyz
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


You also have to change the working folder so that when dosbox runs StarCon2 the program finds the files it is looking for.

To the 'working folder' or similar part of shortcut properties, put eg. c:\games\sc2\. Replace that with the path StarCon2 is installed in. DosBOX runs most Dos-programs. I think it would run Betrayal at Krondor, suberb, once commercial but nowadays free rpg too. Or so I wish... I never completed it. Two hard-drive formats, one new computer, one crash... :-(

:blink:

I've never even heard of that method of running DOSBox before.

Nice of you to tell us of a new way to run our favourite games :ok:

:D

Well, Beast58 had some problems and I wrote down how I have used DosBOX... If there is an easier way, I would be quite interested! ;) Any way, I might download and try original SC2 to see the beginning movie (is there one?)... Also, if Ur-Quan Masters (the remake) doesn't have ending (I'm not sure as I haven't finished even it yet) I might have to go through the game with the original SC2 too.

Are there many out-game sequences in SC2? Like ending movies, or something in the beginning?

so there's no way to get sound in this game?

Hello,

I downloaded DOSBox to work with my original Star Control 2. The game works and the sound works, but every time I go to another screen within the game, I get strange colors..... it happens in Super Melee as well as in the full game. Anyone else have this problem, and if so, what settings can I tweak in DOSBox?

Thanks! :D

i remember a game like this but whit mutch better grafix can anny one help me out whit what it might be

found it nomad aka project nomad

I had the same trouble, and found the answer in the Update.txt : you have to start Star Control 2 with the /g:BIOS argument. In other words, create a .bat file with the command :

STARCON2 /g:BIOS

in it, and run the game from it.

It's a great game btw ;)

Can anyone possibly send me the files off of the Now & Forever site with the walkthrus and such? I am trying to download from FilePlanet but it looks like I will be waiting forever? You can email them to me at sewellsc at hotmail dot com, or let me know of any other locations. Thanks!

the game works fine, but once i start playing (in dosbox) the graphics get very poor and colors turn really weird. Can anyone help me out?

Easily one of the best games ever made.

I can submit starcontrol 3, is anyone interested? If so, is it abandonware and how can I submit.

is anyone interested in the official hintbook (pdf)?

We are always interested in manuals and the like! :D

You should register, it makes it easier to agree on how you could best upload it. :ok:

ok, I'm here. I've got pdf manuals for Star Control 1 and Star Control 2 and official hint book for Star Control 2. They're in english and they come from my original cd of an edition of star control 3 that includes both sc1 and sc2.

looking for the cd I've found my original 3 floppies with ambush at sorinor, I see that it's not in the database, are you interested?

Welcome, dude.

I'll PM you :bye:

found it nomad aka project nomad

I don't think the combat or humor was as good in Project Nomad as in Star Control 2, but if you're looking for it, HOTU I believe has it.

I told this to Tom Henrik a few days ago, but I see that he was away for a few days so maybe he just forgot the thing: the file named Star Control 2 Tips and Controls in this game's extras is really the full manual for Star Control 1. Can anyone move it in the exact page? thank you

What a game and what roleplaying. Starcon2 really made me feel like a starship captain travelling between stars on a perilous mission to free your people. The music just blew me away, the mods just fit so well with the particular alien or situation. My favourites are the planet orbit and the Mycon tunes.

If it is possible to have any complaints about the game, I have one - the time limit. When I played the game the first time I took my time and slowly mined and upgraded my ship. I actually flew from one end of the galaxy to the other in hyperspace... I didn't realise that the Melnorme warning meant life and death. I was happily going about my business in 2559 when next thing I know, :boom: and I was sent back to the opening screen. Only when I checked out the Arilou early in the next game did I realise that this was essential to beating the game. I also realised that cargo pods and mining are quite useless, as it takes too much time to get money (legitimately) from mining.

I recall someone telling me that the way to the Arilou does not appear at all as we get nearer to the time limit (and we've never passed through it yet). Just wondering if anyone experienced this?

This has been the biggest single complaint of the game I've seen: that annoying time limitation. The Toys for Bob folks simply made their races too much fun and their game too interesting for any of us to want to pay attention to a ticking clock. I'd rather just explore; and it's followup, which allows you to explore, was done by Legend Entertainment, and is about half as interesting--if that.

Hi Borodin,
Not surprised at all. On my part, it wasn't that I completely disregarded the warning, it was more like I thought the plot was going to be advanced in some way when the time came. They say when their thingamajig turns black they're toast so they're leaving, but they forgot to say that everyone else would be toast too :0). But thinking about it somemore, perhaps some trading elements ala Starflight would have been nice too, a diversion from the main plot. Of course this assumes that the time limit was somewhat longer.

Followup? Best forgotten I say.

This is absolutely one of the best games ever... it's gameplay is still not been surpassed by todays games. Excellent graphics and sounds... and definetely alot of humor!!

Action, humor, strategy but most of all EXPLORING

god i love this game ;)

If you didn't know, this game is reborn under the name "The Ur-Quan Masters". It should run on just about all platforms.

UQM

Hey,

Yeah, for some reason, when I'm running SC2 and I go into hyperspace, the colors go all whacky... Permanently. I keep getting sucked out of hyperspace, and some sort of dialogue pops up, but all of my selections are unreadable because everything is very, very white. What can I do to fix this? This happens every single time. I was just taking a few stabs in the dark and tried switching dosbox from VGA to SVGA, but that didn't seem to work. Any help would be much-appreciated. Thanks guys. Keep up the good work!

I had the same trouble, and found the answer in the Update.txt : you have to start Star Control 2 with the /g:BIOS argument. In other words, create a .bat file with the command :

STARCON2 /g:BIOS

in it, and run the game from it.

It's a great game btw ;)[/b][/quote]
From a previous page. :rolleyes:

Thank you very much, my man, I'm gonna try that immediately.

This has got to be one of the best games of all time. They just don't write great storylines like this into today's games. I wish there were more games like SC2.

This was a very good game - was there ever a SC3 ?

Yes, unfortunately done by Legend Entertainment, rather the Toys for Bob folks who originated SC2. SC3 isn't a bad title, but it pales before the excellent humor and gameplay of SC2.

:blink: I can't believe I forgot all about this game when arranging my top 10 favorite old games! I loved it, still love it, especially since now that the 3DO opensource version with SPEECH is online, makes it even better (although I don't really find the voices of the Yehat and the Orz to be well suited). Anyway, as they would say at the underdogs: thumbs up! :ok:

Mining is essential, and you DO make get e lot of credits out of it, you just have to:
1- concentrate on the valuable resources
2- find out which planets are likely to have good resources (eg. red and yellow planets are often good)
3- MAKE NOTES. When you upgrade your lander the lightning-strikes and earthquakes (and eventually the hot-spots) won't bother you any more.

For people who get garbled video and have not yet figured out how to fix, using Dosbox 0.63:

Make a txt document.
Inside is this line:
starcon2.exe /g:bios
Rename this txt file to sc2.bat
Put this file in your starcon2 directory [where all the files are]

Make a starcon2.conf for your DOSbox. If you have not figured it out, you should, it is fun.

Make your shortcut point to the bat: [with your folders, not mine]:
C:\DOSBox\DOSBox-0.63\dosbox.exe c:\dosgames\Starcon2\sc2.bat -conf starcon2.conf

If you still do not know what .conf is, just skip the "-conf starcon2.conf" part and Dosbox will use the default.

Click on your shortcut and have fun.

I confess, I only ever played SC3, my first CD game, so I am really going to enjoy this now that I 'make it go'.

Friends, I am now your Lord and Saviour. I have found a site where you CAN DOWNLOAD A SLIGHTLY MODERNIZED AND COMPATABLE VERSION OF SC2!!!



http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sc2/uqm...er.exe?download


Download the one from whatever mirror is closest to home.

Enjoy, and warship me!

This was already talked about few pages ago, so no we won't worship you...

I have somewhere the cdrom version of sc1 & sc2 that disables the stupid copy protection (official release from accolade). You should have that verson here.

does anyone know who gives you the information to find the animal that the vux want to trade for the shofixti maidens i already read where its at but i dont remember anyone in the game telling me where to find it

just so you know a good tip is to rack up about 1500 credits and buy information from the melnorme until you have heard all of the same type of info then load to a game right before you met him and buy all the next info until you have heard all the info from him and when youre done just load again and you will have stolen all his info without spending a dime

Admiral Zex, Alpha Cerenkov 1.
Melnorme, alien race info.
The Thraddash mention the creature if you're allied with them.

Sorry, I am not from this forum, but I have a question. Where on Earth can I find names of all the dwarves and giants? PLEASE HELP ME!!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
That should have gotten your attention..
Here's some more info..

There's a crack which bypasses the star info on http://www.star-control.com
(it's somewhere on the site, but you'll have to find it for yourself. It's quite intuitive. If you know that you're searching for a "file"...)

If you want to run it in dosbox, follow the info people said in a few threads before....

If you want to run it without dosbox, run it with these extra parameters:
/g:bios /s:silent
(so it becomes sc2.exe /g:bios /s:silent or something like that)
This will give you NO sound, yet it will probably work for you if you run it in any OS other than XP..

If you still can't get it to work:
http://sc2.sf.net
they released UQM 0.4 Saturday the 21st of May.. :)


Oh, and "Bloodbath", doing your information trick sometimes won't work. There are a few occasions that you'll only get a "Conversation ability" if you bought the info from the Melnorme. This can cause to, IMHO, the best conversation with a baddie in game history... ever... that's right...

Besides, there are enough rainbow worlds.. When you've found a few, you should probably be able to find the rest.. Or so I hope. :)

Oh, and about the time limit: yes, you CAN know about it.
Firstly, the Melnorme tell you about their Metachron turning black.
Secondly, the Pkunk make a little confusing reference to it somewhere when you meet them first.
Thirdly, if you do the Zoq-Fot-Pik sidequest (making friends with them), you can get status updates from them. Boy, you'd soon find out about it.
Fourthly and Fifthly (?), both Ur-Quan species tell you about it if you ask them... The Kzer-Za (green) being more talkative about that though. However, it takes guts to go there.. :P

Most people make the mistake to go mining ONLY in the beginning of the game, though. As a player of the first hour, I'd recommend not to. Instead, mine WHILE DOING "QUESTS". Buys you a LOT of time.. You might also want to combine mining and questing with exploring (into unchartered terrain), so you'll soon find those aliens. :)

We could always warship him, as requested, though - anyone got a drydock, some labourers, a large quantity of steel, some munitions and 18 months or so we could borrow?

Hello to all!

Im trying to download the Ur-Quan Masters spoken a few posts up but the mirrors simply dont work and the email for the webmaster of the site too is strange, dont have @ simbol... Any ideas here?

Hugs,
Xavier

Anyone know of a way to disable the questions at the beginning? I know Megagun mentioned a file but apparently I'm to dense to find it (I was thinking maybe the map utility but apparently not...) Since the game is free anyway it's not like it's unethical to give me a link to a crack somewhere, right? Pleeeeaaase? :angel:

Abandonware IS NOT "free".

Go to the specified link. Select "files" from the menu on the left. Then search around, you'll probably find it sooner or later. If not... Google is your friend.

Hi

I downloaded SC2 from your site recently, and got it to work using dosbox and /g:bios (hooray!), but, when I am in orbit around a planet the sound goes a bit funny; the music keeps playing, but the additional sounds come in and start repeating.

Any ideas on how to fix this?

- I wasn't able to download URM from sourceforge, I think my firewall is in the way; how about posting a full copy on this site?

Hello - I just got the Ur-Quan masters, and it works perfectly... But sligtly odd, regarding music. The first time I played (at work :o ) the old soundtrack, sounding like the original mods were playing. Today, restoring my saved game, new music turns up - the music is way cool, but I'm in it for the nostalgia!

Can you tell me how to bring the original score back...?

Thanks in advance :)

-Amygdala

i'm from Brazil and i have a question in the begining of the game it asks for a kind of password where should i find, please tell me...

Hello all, I don't know if this has been discussed before (did not read msg board), so, just in case it hasn't, here is the address to an awsome Star Control II remake:

http://sc2.sourceforge.net/

Yes, it has been mentioned, repeatedly.

If what you see is a green star, type CYGNUS.

I have a problem after that, though. A menu comes up with the New Game and Load Game options, but then it seems to stop responding. The arrow keys don't work to change the selection, and neither enter nor spacebar will select the option it's on. Anyone else have this problem, or know how to fix it?

I run this game fine under WinXP. Just choose SC2.exe, right click, choose Properties->memory, change EMS memory to 3MB at least.

In fact, the txt file clearly note that SC2 require 2.7MB of EMS memory to run.

Great game! :ok:

Best game I have ever played. It took me and my brother over a year to solve this one when it first came out.
FYI, the most powerful ship in the game.. when handled correctly... is, amazingly enough, a spathi ship.
My bro defeated 274 Ur-Quan Kzer-za and Kohr-Ah ships with dear lil Fwiffo one heady night before we learned what a Dynaari is for.
I recommend this game to any true gamers who want a challenge and what is by far the greatest game of the 90's.
Humour, freedom, a villianous race which actually has a truly interesting story behind them.... amazing stuff.

I only wish there was some way to remove the arbitrary end-of-the-universe clock metaphorically ticking away in the background. This was the sole criticism of the game when it came out: that you really wanted to play so much more, discovering stuff around this universe, but you were actually under a time limit (though it was often not very clear). Personally, I'd love to remove that limit altogether, but I'm sure it's hard-coded.

I think the limited game time is ok. If not, this game would be simulation, not strategy.

Anyway, the game code has been released to the gaming society, therefore you could voice your opinion of the future Urquan Master versions at

sc2.sourceforge.net

Sorry, but having an unending ability to move around, see and interact with things doesn't turn SC2 into a simulation--anymore than being able to do so turned the RPG Ultima VII: The Black Gate into a simulation. It merely removes the time limit from a strategy game.

This problem of that unsuspected time limit has been noted for years, as I pointed out in my previous comments. The Ur-Quan folks are aware, and others have requested it, before.

Anybody wants to help to translate this game to spanish? :max:

Very great game indeed. For al of those who thinks there' aren't any more games like this, you should try Space Rangers (1 or 2 years old, the sequel has been released one month ago). It looks kinda like a RPG in space with shoot and adventure scenes (but no multiplayer :cry: ). Very addictive !

Space Ranger? where we can get it? :ok:

Second best game ever made. First best was reunion, seconds SC2 and third...Thats the castle of DR brain of course.

Anyway, THERE IS A STAR CONTROL 3!!! CONFIRMED.
I have the box here in my hand. soo good

Um...I think most of us know there's a Star Control 3. We bought or reviewed it when it came out, and played it. Can't say I liked the game that much, but then, Legend had to live up to the standards of the Toys for Bob team: a tough order.

Also, a group of fans of Star Control 2 moved the game to a S.D.L. support.... :eeeeeh: that means that they made a game called "The ur-quan masters" that it´s the same old Star Control 2 but it can be easly modified and u can make adds to your game like add a new language or add voices or many other things....

Me, I'd be happy if they came out with a version that disabled the universal destruction date. That was the one thing I disliked about the game, because there was so much left of the universe to be explored. Otherwise, it was one of the most original, amusing, and best-designed titles I'd ever played.

:bleh: i think that it isn´t going to happen :bleh:

No question, there. :)

http://www.elementalgames.com/forum/msg.ph...e=123&page=auto

:tnx: i will check it

hey all, i cant get past the opening question to play the game. Ive tried matching the coordinates it gives to the code book posted on this site and that doesnt work and i try to get it off the star map and still no go! pls help this games sounds cool

It should always show a picture of Beta Cygnus. But you should just type "cygnus" not "beta cygnus".

If it shows a different star then you're using the wrong .exe file to run the game.

And yes the game is way cool!

Cygnus or look out for an stars map on net

probably the silliest problem....

but while playing this, i've noticed that the shift/ctrl keys don't work, for combat and whatnot....

i don't know if it's the dosbox affecting it, or other things...

ideas?

--j

Yeah, don't mess with dosbox for this game. Just get the easy-to-install windows version at http://sc2.sourceforge.net, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread.

Check this OUT!

What are you waiting for!? Mail this guy! Spam him! Nail him to the ground with mails! :w00t:

change the keys :bleh:



But there is already a SC III :bleh:

Can someone post here something such as a quick-start guide for this game?

:help:

I tried playing this a few times a few months back and quickly gave up because I couldn't accomplish anything. Something outlining one possible approach to the first 10-20 minutes of gameplay would be much appreciated.

And you have tried DOSBox already?

MC, have you read his post at all? He can play the game, but he has trouble with getting through the beginning of the actual gameplay, since it's a bit difficult for him.

O yes I have, but now it seems I didn't understand him. I thought he had problems starting it up, with a lamenting phrase like 'I played it months ago etc. !!'.
Sorry, my bad.

And concerning the game: I don't know it, so I can't help you. Sorry again.

Firstly go to Mercury or one of the lunes of Jupiter and mine it. By mine, i am talking of send the lander to the planet and pick up minerals. You can do this by moving into the planet, making a complete scan, presing enter to launch lander and when the red bar is full or near to full, press esc to beam up. Some hints for this opperation that is the key of the game: 1 check out that the teutonic and weather level are low, too high means that are lightings and earquates so dont land until get the modifications for the lander. 2 check out temperature, over 300 degree is also too risky. 3 the bio scan will report the presence of wild creatures that can be dangerous but usefull prizes in near future. 4 the energy scan will report structures or items vital to win the game.
Move to the earth and make in the station orbiting it. Here you will be informed about the situation. And you will have to fight an Ilwrath Avenger, that is one of the most dangerous ships in game but cuz the lacking of cloaking device in this one and crew reduce to half it will be and easy win. You should check the keys for combat before load the game, you also can practice in melee moode. I can give you future help but it will be some kind of spoiler so check how it comes if you need something more, let me know

Here's another. This one makes more sense in terms of story. (IE, going to mercury isn't what a new player would do.)

First, the manual has the opening story. Reading it will help, but it's not necessary.

I assume you know where the planets are located in the solar system. Head to Earth. When you get close to earth you'll zoom in and a red orb will move quickly towards you. You can not avoid it. Listen to it's message.

Earth itself is slave shielded and there's nothing you can do with it. So go to the space station and talk to Commander Hayes. He'll ask you for radioactives so go get some.

Got to Mercury. Do all scans on Mercury then send down a lander. Dodge the hazards and run over the radioactive mineral deposits you find. After you've picked up a few press your secondary button to recall your lander to the ship.

Return to the space station and talk to Commander Hayes again. It's a lengthy converastion. You'll need to go to the moon and poke around a bit. Use your lander's gun to kill the robots on the surface, collect some minerals if you like, and run your lander into what's generating the energy reading you spotted durring scans.

Go back to Hayes and tell him your findings and you'll be interupted by an attacking Illwrath, your first battle. However, this is a push over compared to later battles because this particular Illwrath is in a bad way. Choose your earthling cruser (not your main ship) point towards the Illwrath and press your primary weapon a few times into it. If by some miracle it survives, turn around and press thrust to get away from it before it gets too close, wait for your batteries to recharge, and fire again. Your missles will track so don't worry too much about aiming.

After the Illwrath is dead Commander Hayes will be more than willing to support your cause and the actuall game begins.

(A little hint, before you set out, sell your weapons system on your main ship. At this point they're of little use and will buy enough speed and turning upgrades to take the edge off the sluggishness of your main ship. Also, do not buy any more earthling crusers at this time.)

Now set off mining the solar system, returning to the space station to dump off your minerals. Do not miss the chance to go to Pluto. It's hard to see because it looks like a purple star on the western end of it's orbit, but trust me, that's the planet. Don't miss it, no matter what.

By now, you should be off. If you want to find a system that's rich in minerals go check out Alpha Centauri. Also, read the story line to find Vela, your home world (it's impossible to see on the main map without knowing where to zoom in). Aside from that, expore and follow the in game clues to save the universe!

And you made all the spoiler that i avoided... :bleh:
Some corrections or differents ideas to guesst, nice hint to demont the wapons but speed and turning rate are for the people who already played it and becomes stick of see the slow moving ship. Better build cargo bays, landers and crew pods (yes, sacrifice some crew to land in hot planets with rare metals, if you lose all crew in the lander you lost the lander, in a battle all crew killed --> your ship is lost). Alfa Centauri isnt the best planet to start mining(there are too many hot ones), but u will found interesant people in any of the bigger planets of the map. First times go mining and when u can build up some power start to explore but not the near planets move some deep in the space, not to centre there is a war going on there. The are many ways to win the game, just dont get killed and dont spare time

I know that, as a matter of fact I've just reviewed SC3 for this site, it will be uploaded soon so please check it out. :cheers: But the fact is that many people would like to see a sequel to SC2 done as if SC3 never existed. From Wikipedia:

Mr. Wallet, everything is like guesst said, but the only thing you must do is NOT skipping the intro, it's part of the story. If you watch it, then act accordingly, and then subsequently pay attention to what you're told during the game, and act accordingly and so on, there's no way for you to get lost. If you're not going to pay attention to this game's story then don't skip the story, just don't play the game, because there will be no game left--and it's such a *great* game.

A safer place for radioactives is one of the moons of Jupiter.

Thrusters are crucial to get more out of the fuel, which is important at the early stages when even fuel is expensive.

I agree that Alpha Centauri is not good for mining (although the surrounding stars may be), but visit anyway for a vital interaction as Laiocfar said. A better bet I think is the Volantis system, it even throws in some bio-life for your hunting pleasure :sniper:. I never buy more than one lander in the game. Do not venture far from home until the ship is fully fitted with thrusters and turning jets at least. Do not leave home without visiting Pluto, it could well mean the difference between survival and a quick death.

As Japofran said, talking to aliens and the starbase commander provides hints on what to do next. But when you're ready to start going farther out, you could follow the story arc and try heading to Vela. You could drop by Giclas/Krueger systems for some *ahem* freebies. But my preference would be to visit the Spathi, those in the know will know why :angel:.

An aside about mining. Once you feel reasonably powerful (weapon modules/escort ships) and comfortable in ship controls, forget about mining and mine your enemies instead. No cargo bays, higher and quicker returns but perhaps higher risk. The Mycon are particularly easy and profitable LOL.

Someone should do a poll ranking starships.
About minig or look for war spoils, i prefer to mine... it gives you the chance to hunt and also its the way of the explorer. Anyway you can make extra RUswhen load full by moving into Mycoon space and sending your fellow arilous to battle.

I know english isn't your native language, but my babbel fish is having trouble with this one.

If I understand you, the first part you're saying there should be a poll ranking, what, people's favorate ships? I'm gonna vaguely wave my hand in the direction of the forums on the Ur-Quan Masters page. (There's also the Pages of Now and Forever, but their forums are not half as active as UQM.) Chances are that's been covered there before.

As for the second, I you're saying you prefer mining to combat for your RU's, then you say that the Mycon are good for combatting your RUs, so I really don't know what side of this issue you're on.

The down side of combat RU's (maybe I'm restating you here) is you don't find anything if you don't explore planets. So for newbies I say mine till the cows come home, or the SaMatra blows up. Then the second time around gather resources by force.

He's saying once the cargo bays are full, you can get more RUs by attacking the Mycon (presumably without returning home). Definitely the hardest time for resource-by-force is the start, when only the Ilwrath are accessible, but I still find that faster than mining. But yeah, mining fits in space exploration role-playing better I suppose.

Do you mean artifacts ? If artifacts, I think all artifacts are mentioned or hinted at by somebody or other.

Yeah is true that sometimes i am terrible when writting but you managed to understand.
Most of artifacs are mentioned by the melnorme traders. The exploring thing comes to make the tasks in order to end the game or just to make the extra tasks that arent connected to the end of the game.

Sorry, but someone could tell me the name of the green dwarf at 047.9 : 464.5??? :help:

CYGNUS :ok:

I think that if you use the crack (.COM) the answer will always be "cygnus".

Yes, coz the game is cracked the question is always about cygnus.

Hmmm, my old crack you could enter whatever and it would pass. Maybe I should PM Kosta and get a better version here.

:ok:

Trouble with anti-copy starmap test? In those old days a friend of mine and me played this game and liked it so much that most times we didnt need to check on starmap to enter the game. Its not so hard, maybe i didnt pass everything on school but u can bet i knew where stars were

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ May 26 2006, 10:00 PM) [snapback]232480[/snapback]</div>In hyperspace, no less. Won't do you a bit of good until we make the jump to hyperspace, but when we do you're our man.

There should be a new archive up now that asks for nothing, and all you have to do is hit ENTER to move on. You see a star, but it has no coordinates.

There are many starmaps in the net. The remakes of this game got many popularity so the maps arent rare things. Look for them in google.

OK, I skimmed the info, but I'll try looking for a space station.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Japofran @ Apr 19 2006, 03:16 PM) [snapback]223973[/snapback]</div>I find this extrmely ironic. Had I skipped the incredibly-slow-moving intro, I wouldn't be so terrified of the forces capable of taking down future Earth. :wallbash: As soon as I got the slaver-orb message, I was determined to get the hell out of dodge and seek help. I never did manage to beat more than 2 of those crystal-dude ships per attempt. I just figured it was a really hard game. :huh: edit: that is to say, The story seemed to make it quite clear: GET AS FAR THE **** AWAY FROM EARTH AS YOU CAN BEFORE THEY TAN YOUR HIDE, YOU FOOL!

errr..... no, you should build up your strenght by mining nearest possible to earth. Go to one of the big star to contact M (anybody should go to look how is a bigger star), with that you could get all the idea of the most of game.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mr. Wallet @ Jun 6 2006, 04:06 AM) [snapback]234624[/snapback]</div>Take strength, soldier, you are to save the Earth, not your lowly hide! :boxing: If you stay away from Earth it's then when you're lost, because it's in the station over there where you can recover. Your only choices are either to fight or to perish :titan: ... or not to play the game :(

HINT: You're not supposed to defeat every crystal-dude in the galaxy -you couldn't no matter how hard you tried. There's another way around it, just follow the storyline and in the meantime bear with those lowly bastards, they're very annoying.

better to take some good old Rum ;)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Japofran @ Jun 6 2006, 09:28 AM) [snapback]234700[/snapback]</div>The sylandro probes act as the games random monster encounters all over. And they aren't that hard to beat, just be sure to *spoiler block on (highlight to read)* stop by pluto, little purple planet on the eastern end of the furthest out orbital, *spoiler* to get your silver bullet and you can just about beat anything that comes along with a little practice (and a few reloads)

Here's a great hyperspace map, with pretty much everything, including location of quest items:



http://uqm.chumbucket.org/



Why aren't you people playing with the remake of UQM? It combines the best from the different versions (3DO, PC) and I found it a lot more enjoyable.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Calus @ Jun 7 2006, 06:28 AM) [snapback]234921[/snapback]</div>Nobody said that people here aren't playing it, but it's not featured in this site because Abandonia's about abandonware, and UQM is freeware. As a matter of fact, it's featured in Abandonia Reloaded. :D

So, i am not people. :(

I play the remake, but I discuss the game here.

Can someone tell me how to remove modules? I've a full load out but want better weaponry via melnorme
techno purchase and it won't let me remove anything but landers and fusion thrusters/turn thrusters-skips everything else! :blink:

Btw, great game!

You made me load the game up again to find this out, but I thought there was a sell option. It's called "- module". Infact I recomend that at the start of the game you use this option as soon as you can to sell your cannon on your ship so you can afford even more thrusters and turning jets.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(guesst @ Jun 30 2006, 12:42 AM) [snapback]240645[/snapback]</div>I used -module and it won't let me sell cannons or crew pods, etc. shame too cause I got fusion blaster and a hellbore cannon to put on it but I'm stuck with ion bolt cannons.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raptor1 @ Jun 30 2006, 05:13 PM) [snapback]240802[/snapback]</div>I used -module and it won't let me sell cannons or crew pods, etc. shame too cause I got fusion blaster and a hellbore cannon to put on it but I'm stuck with ion bolt cannons.
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Never mind, I figgerd it out :whistling:

Everyone should get the Urquan Masters instead of the file on this site. I have been playing it (Urquan Masters) since the first version was released. It incorporates all the best aspects of the pc and 3DO versions into one excellent game. Not to mention that in the newest version there is gamepad compatibility and a searchable starmap. And you can edit it in so many ways. The creators now have their own company Toys For Bob http://www.toysforbob.com/database/tfb_home.html Check it out. And if you go here: http://starcontrol.classicgaming.gamespy.com/ you can get all the info on the game you could need.
I love this game like no other. I have the original on 3.5 diskette. Also the the Best of Science Fiction cd-rom version. I even bought a 3DO on ebay just so I could sit on my couch and play it on the big screen. Trust me, the Urquan Masters is the way to go. Not to mention that it is a fan produced port. The original creators gave them the code and they have done the rest. Support their excellent effort.
LONG LIVE The Alliance of Free Stars!!!!

Here is another cool little resource for the game:
http://uqm.stack.nl/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_FAQs

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jul 7 2004, 06:32 AM) [snapback]5183[/snapback]</div>hello, i rea that you are able to play starcontrol 2 on windows xp, how did you manege that ??? i tought you need ms-dos ???

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(raptor1 @ Jun 30 2006, 01:55 AM) [snapback]240636[/snapback]</div> go into the remove option and use the arrows up and down to land on a module. it should work

Yes and no. You see, we are using this little nifty emulator called DosBox. It allows us to run almost any DOS-era computer game on a modern machine.

Either that or the remake

Either everybody but me has some kind of god-like skill or this game runs way too fast on DosBox. Combats are nigh unto impossible to win unless I'm willing to take 90% casualties (unlike running away which only produces 50-75% casualties), it frequently takes several days to get onto a planet because my spaceship will overshoot it (or it doesn't activate the transition despite passing through the planet) and the spaceship has no method of stopping or slowing down other than leaving the solar system. I've had to reload the game over six times because my ship just can't maneuver well enough to land on Alpha Cerekov I to deliver a creature to Admiral Zex and was subsequently destroyed in three seconds by the legion of enemy ships patrolling around his planet.

The god-like skill can be summed up in: Ctrl+F11. ;)

i run it on win98 and you should can manouver without problems. Try some like pckiller or just turn down the cpu cycles

Holy CRAP! :brain: This game is awesome! Im SO digging the music. . I just ran into my first Sipathi, the one that was trembling in fear on Pluto. .. freating great. . . Just goes to show that skill (in music, game design, art. . .) can outlast lots of things. .. this game just seems like its going to be FUN! Awesome! :brain:

Is a bad idea to pick fights against any spathi and with the one in pluto, worse.

True, for multiple reasons. Try not to (spoiler)... :ph34r:

Even whitout the spoiler, the Spathi are really hard to beat, many crew, high speed, the guided rear weapon, and coward tactics. They can drive you nuts.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Sep 29 2006, 03:38 AM) [snapback]258075[/snapback]</div>They are good allies, at least their ships are great, they can take on most enemies in the beginning when you're just starting to build up your mothership capabilities. Same goes for those hippie birds.

I'm not sure if this has been posted before, but the game has been ported so it would work in xp, google urquan masters...

Its hard to dont give spoilers but its true, Spathi are good ships during all game and specially against big ones like green slavers.
hippie birds and the other bird are to usefull to be victorius at the final battle they rock agaisnt that superweapon and are needed reinforcements.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Anonymous @ Jul 7 2004, 06:29 AM) [snapback]5182[/snapback]</div>hmm...i'm having lock-up problems in win xp prof...

When I was 15 and playing this game (11 years ago) it could drive me crazy. The time limit to the game meant that you had to be fast, yet exploring the galaxy was often a slow task and yet necessairy. So I ended up with 100 notes sticking to my desk with all planets of interest and their coordinates. And I kept reloading, and reloading, just so I wouldn't waste time and fuel on empty solar systems.

Still, this game is vastly underrated and was a real mile stone. It was funny, had amazing depth, real time inter-species conflicts changing territory, a very dynamic story, awesome combat AND was an adventure game and strategy game all mixed into one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 28 2006, 10:59 AM) [snapback]263966[/snapback]</div>hmm...i'm having lock-up problems in win xp prof...
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DosBox should be utilised.
Can be assimilated under following location.

I have 2 questions

1º what's the iferençe aboute ur-quan masters of star control 2

2º when i'v downloaded this game wen i start it only apear the front page of the game, i press space for play normal game but it freeze in the midell :sos:

1° SC2 is the old and original game. UQM is the remake of these great game. It was built in with a diferent tecnology in the programs used in the denvelope. So UQM is free and it support many addons.

2° try dosbox.

I'm loving the game. One of those games I've been waiting to play for years.

One thing:

If your having trouble with saving new keys for the controls, make sure the key file is not Read Only. Highlight all the Starcontrol files and right click, select Properties, and uncheck Read Only.

I have a question about the game. I'm in deep on my second to last quest which is to get the Syreen to join up. After long probing around it seems I have to find out what happened to her planet and what not. I don't understand I got the mycon egg fragment early in the game when exploring, and I got the mycon to mention deep children in a seriously of random meetings with them (there's no topic to say hey talk about deep children, you just keep blathering randomly on and they finally mention that also in a random type of conversation moment). Afterwards I'm suppose to go back and talk to Syreen and tell her what happened but it seems I satisfied the requirements but she doesn't have any additional conversation with me except for good bye captain? can anyone help me solve my dilemma?

This was my post, sorry i'm registered now, please somebody help solve my dilemma. I've been at this thing for 5 hours already.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SCMANIA @ Nov 9 2006, 08:46 AM) [snapback]265992[/snapback]</div>

If my memory doesnt fail, the squence to get the syreens on your side is A: to learn about the Deep Childs by speaking the Mycons in a conversation (there isnt any randomes, there many possibilities to pick up the fight before learn about the deep childs + i think that you need to speak them in some lava planet, i am not sure) or trading information whit Melnormes. B: Reach Betelguese or whatever and talk to syreens, they will tell you that they cant help you but you will tell them the true about their real home planet (called Gaia?), they ask for proof C: get the mycon´s egg shell, i recomend to pick up two of them, Melnormes can say you where find them. D: Back to Syreen´s startbase, Talana will agree an alliance with you but they got no ships so only will give you some captains and tell you about their fleet lost somewhere in greens Ur-Quan´s space. E: Get that fleet, ist easy to found but to make out from the battle zone is hardest thing in the game. F: uk err love Talana and by the way, she will ask you about an extra mission and if you end it you will get the sun device from Mycon´s homeworld, see syreens to take their revenge and get a hard won alliance.

Hello, thanks so much for responding.....but after I wrote up the question. I actually found out what to do. Actually you don't talk with the Mycon ships to ask about the deep child. They only randomly blab on, you'll have to speak to the Mycon Homeworld's Mycons about deep child, not the ships. That is what triggers the Syreens' extra conversation lines. I did a search online and there are a lot of misleading walkthrus. After the Syreen quest it was clear sailin'. I'm proud to say after ........what.......... I believe 13-14 years I finally beat this damn game? I'm so satisfied, it's beyond words. Thanks again for responding.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Nov 9 2006, 11:01 AM) [snapback]266006[/snapback]</div>

ha ha ha! man i like it. it's when you finish the game and it shows credits. what tanaka says
"ah! it's the one witch i called (few insults) our human friend. you must be wondering what am i doing here?
well im trying to get some rest!!! i'll gonna have a heart attack soon! you don't know what it means personnaly ressurecting the entire species!!!! :ok: :brain: ^_^ ".

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Oct 24 2006, 03:33 AM) [snapback]263191[/snapback]</div>unfourtunately yehat are not so good against sa-matra (non-hippie birds). utwig (the ones with shield witch
converts damage into batteries) are good

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Seabass @ Sep 5 2004, 01:57 PM) [snapback]12356[/snapback]</div>it's optional to "have sex" with syreen talana, but you have to help her out so you could get the sun device
used to unleash chmmr witch will install you bomb into your flagship so you would destroy sa-matra (and
destroy your ship "that is the thing that sucks"). mycon is guarding sun device, so without syreen help
you can't get it

Yup, the game is unbeliveble funny. Yehat´s ships are very like Utwing´s ones so their role in Samatra assault is the same, to kill the balls that lurk after your ships. The hippie-birds or Pkunks are the best avaible against Samatra coz they can use their side weapons plus resurrection ability. BTW, these Pkunk´s furies rules coz they insult their enemies :D

Now that i have finished the game :brain: I'n the finished movie that apears the "Mark II" and what the hell is the Mark II

(Detaled) info please :huh:

If I tell you that nobody (only maybe Reiche and Ford, the game's makers) knows more about the Mark II than you, I've told you all that's to it. Select below to read spoilers --it won't spoil anything to you, only to people who haven't finished the game.

and they are allways online in were :huh:

Thradash (the rinolike dogs) didnt got their torpedoes or battle systems called Mark? But i think that they use Mark V or IV if i am right.

In fact it's a standard english technical term, but it so sucks as the name of a ship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_(designation)

Maybe it's just a geekish nickname, leaving it up to the player what was the actual name of the ship?

I found it, there 2 dialogues where the Thraddash told you about their Mark VI blaster (it looks more like topedoes than like a blaster).



"Perhaps Humans can fight after all, if our reports are accurate.
We will test this hypothesis in the laboratory of life -- IN GLORIOUS BATTLE!
Your puny, inadequate weaponry is no match for the Thraddash Mark 6 Blaster
with its 4 Megawatt energy discharge.
Nor can your slow, bloated tubs compare to our Flash Turbo-Boosted warships!
We have nothing to fear!"

"A foolish question! We are their slaves, dolt! What else would we be?
When the Ur-Quan first appeared in our space over fifty years ago
coming from the direction of the Ophiuchi stars
we attacked them with gusto, zipping in to fire our Mark 6 blasters
and then theoretically zipping back out to prepare for another attack run.
SNORT! Unfortunately, before we could zip out
our ships were either blasted to smithereens by the Ur-Quan's fusion bolts
or were picked apart by the swarms of Ur-Quan fighter-vessels.
You may wonder why we didn't use our afterburners to escape. The answer is simple.
Fifty years ago, our ships had not yet been modified for this enhancement!
It was not until 2143 that Maintainance Engineer Reeunk invented the afterburner effect
when he accidentally stuck his cigar in the aft fuel valve of the ship we was working on.
WHABOOM!!! The ship took off like a farg out of hell, and Reeunk was fried to a crisp.
Yes, we remember Reeunk with much fondness. Of course, we have refined the device
and now that our entire fleet has been fitted with the Reeunk Afterburners
perhaps NOW the Ur-Quan will let us fight at their side as TRUE battle thralls."



I rule... well in fact i worked all Thraddash dialogues into spanish.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Dec 13 2006, 09:37 PM) [snapback]271594[/snapback]</div>I believe paul and fred wanted to make starcon3 about "mark 2". however, the company fired them and made the game on their own, so you can't know about "mark 2".

P.s. now i finished the game at 2557 years, then the end is at 2559 (or with supox and utwig help 2560).

Detailed information about the Mark II:

The naming of things by "Mark" is a sort of tradition. The Mark I is the precursor ship that you flew in the first game. The Mark I is actually a precursor tug, a service ship, nothing fancy.

The Mark II was planned for the secuel which never happend. (As has been established, Star Control 3 is non-canoical and generally evil.) The Mark II, however, was to be a precursor battle ship. Just imagine.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(guesst @ Dec 24 2006, 08:39 AM) [snapback]272450[/snapback]</div>yeah i imagine. but :blink: just what are sa-matra (at least that's how ur-quan call it)? mark 7? or 6? and now that i'm thinking about precursors, i imagine utwig super bomb must be precursor nuke right? or maybe it's just a bomb to destroy planets, so they could take minerals that was inside planets? Anyway only paul and fred (reiche and ford) knows everything. man do i hate starcon company (accolade if i'm correct).


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Dec 17 2006, 03:45 AM) [snapback]271876[/snapback]</div>really? :huh: i would have never guessed!!

If i am right, Melnorme merchants said that they belive that it is a terraforming device.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Dec 13 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]271432[/snapback]</div>howewer, utwig juggers are better (for me) than yehat terminators, cause you can't use yehat shield all the time no matter what, and if you get a steady supply of damage (like sa-matra's firebolts) you could keep jugger shields forever. another thing is that yehat (like spathi) shoots small strong bursts against enemies, and you can either shoot or raise shields, but not both (cause you lose batteries (called fuel in starcon1), and there's not much fuel in every terminator (except if in starcon1 you get precursor fuel upgrade) ). utwig, on the other hand, doesn't need fuel to shoot, and shoots perfectly. to say the truth, a greatest fleet would be if half of it would be jugger's (sa-matra and ur-quan destroyers) and another half would consist of chmmr ships (for other ships).

p.s. sorry i'm a little :offtopic:

please help, i cant get past the password protection, i see the star and the colour of it but it doesnt say its coordinates

The answers are in the Codes you can download from right here in the Extras section.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Feb 3 2007, 08:30 PM) [snapback]277843[/snapback]</div>for me it's like that:
if i play adventure then near the star it says "(press: enter)". press enter it everything will solve. if it says otherwise, howewer, it's beyond my expertice. sorry
if i play melee, it asks for a star. i just type any letter, press enter and it works. if it doesn't, then i can't help you :unsure: . sorry!

B.t.w.: don't read resource guide unless you need it badly (read about thraddash: forming alliance, and (if you need it!) slylandro: locating their homeworld (i won the game with only those two)! there are a lot of bio units around and minerals in ilwhath space. also, in big planet's (like Alpha Centauri or Zeeman) if you bought upgrades from melnorme, you can try you're luck.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Dec 13 2006, 02:49 AM) [snapback]271432[/snapback]</div>But i like Utwig more, coz yehat ships need batteries, wich recharge over time, so you can't keep your shield up forever, and utwig shields need batteries, wich you could get by getting hit by enemy while keeping your shield up, wich (best works in sa-matra's (big trophie's) case) you could keep forever, coz with both shields you don't get damage. also, i like the idea, that pkunks insult they're enemies (loser, b**ch, worm, idiot) ^_^ . it's funny, and yep, it's cool :max: . also, they could fix the bug in sc2, that arilou, when teleporting, wouldn't appear INSIDE the planet (in sc it was fixed).

P.S. I was expressing what i was thinking. I lost interest in that game about half year ago, when i finished it.

Utwigs are nice and hard to beat ships. In fact the super ship of the Chejensu+Mmnnrrhh isnt better of Utwig´s ship. But is you are carring a multiple fleet, you will lost most of your Utwigs at the Ur-quan combined fleet that attacks you before Samatra. So normally, if not carring a full utwig´s fleet, you attack Samatra with 2 utwigs as max. Anyway Yehats and Utwigs need to dodge in Samatra. Yehat beacause they cant hold shields up for ever and Utwigs coz they need shields down to fire. Pkunks are fast enough to avoid anything, got sidecannons so no need to face Samatra and if something fails got the resurrection. Anyway is true that Utwigs are one of the best avaible in the game.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(laiocfar @ Apr 13 2007, 08:05 AM) [snapback]286841[/snapback]</div>wrong 2 times. let me explain, please.
1. if you're a good player (i'm ten year old), you can avoid destruction of utwig juggers with shields (remember, both ur-quan fire strong projectiles, wich serves as good batteries for shields (no, really, i lose mostly 1 or two utwigs in that fight. 4 or 5 leaves to fight sa-matra :ok: ))
2. against sa-matra, those green balls serve as good boosts, and fireballs have their own speed, so, if you go too slow (full utwig speed) fireballs will pass through and will go around you to tail you again. that leaves some time, right? if you get ball boost (use shields on them, blobs have their own damage (1-3 crew)) you'll be too fast for fireballs, leaving stations open for fire. same goes for yehat, though there are few exeptions
see, you're wrong, but don't worry, mistakes happen, right? please, don't be angry. byr :ok:

note: i don't have time, so i'm writing this one as guest.

yay! :brain: beat sa-matra (again). fun. it becomes all a little TOO easy, once you aquire unlimited ru (installed bomb). finished game in 2157. easy.
i like melee. features ships you CAN'T play as (slylandro, kohr-ah...). you get to know them better.
another thing i like is the humor. features contact with star trek (oh yeah baby!). three mentions:
1. (talking to pkunk) were on a five year mission, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to go boldly where no... well you get the idea. were kind of exploring.
2. (talking to slylandro creatures) it's on a 5000 dranhna mission, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to go boldly where no... catalog 2176-b self replication explorer probe... had gone before
3. your alliance name can be: "united federation of worlds". kirk was working for "united federation of planets".

i could never end the game,cause i got stuck. i am not good in space combat. at first it was all very interesting and i liked to play with it and i liked the story. then two things happened...

one was that i couldn't win those combats anymore (cause i put them on auto, playing them manually was too fast for me and i couldn't win anything)
and second one was that i found out time is quite limited and events that are unfolding follow the timeline. at first i didn't get fast enough to some place. second try i always got destroyed by enemy, so i quite playing. liked the game though. the whole idea is nice. wish there was something like that on 3D (something like on privateer remake engine)

Blame me, but i flight better a pkunk fury that flying junks of utwings

One of the best game :brain:

I have also one question:
Does eliminating many of starships, such as Ilwrath Avengers in hyperspace, reduce the fleet or is it useless ?
I'm asking because I can't bear to see the Thraddash extinguished from their galaxy by the Ilwrath.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jenkins @ Nov 15 2007, 03:30 AM) [snapback]319245[/snapback]</div>

Money resourcing
 

For those of you who are sick and tired (He,he,he:D), I suggest U get to quasispace, meet ARILOU and blast those fuc*** mycon out into vaccum orbit ;). You'll get money for salvaging these ships (seen in a little screen after you beat 'em). Have fun!:cool:

BTW: :Off topic: This forum is hard to use with the NEW (stupid) abandonia.

:On topic: pkunk works also (not to mention utwig, yehat, androsynth...)

Wonderful, wonderful game. Only problem I ever had with it, is the timer that leads to the destruction of the universe if you don't find the "solution" in time. It's not so much that it isn't revealed clearly--though the game's kind of murky in letting you know--but that it exists, at all. Because it's simply too much fun traveling about, discovering new systems, mining, engaging in combat, reading the great, often humorous dialog while "talking" to the races, etc. The tendency is to treat this adventure game as a sim game, because it does so many things so well that it becomes addictive.

I wish that game-end timer could be taken out, but that doesn't look like it's going to happen, anytime soon. Great title, though. Shame the Toys for Bob folks weren't commissioned to do the third title in the series, because that was a dud.

i agree. played it for some time and enjoyed it and then i realised i am on a timer :-/ took away the fun...

Even the first time I played when I didn't know at first about the time limit, I didn't exceed it. The trick is to visit significant places at the same time that you're mining. Just at the start you learn that the Pkunk are being attacked by the Ilwrath, and then there's an urgent distress call from the Zoq-Fot-Pik. If you follow this traces while you mine, you'll finish the game well within the limit.

Of course, but that wasn't my point. :) I don't want to be efficient in this game. I don't want to do things quickly. I want to take my time, travel everywhere, find interesting planets, and just...be...lazy. :D The game won't let me. That's all.

i was able to DL the game and start it, but once its running it will freeze after one key is pushed:mad:...any help?

Use DOSBox...

i think im am... doesnt it auto open it dosbox if you open it from the folder? or no...

is there a thread on how to use dosbox cuz it wont let me mount anything

Google DOSBox. Go to the DOSBox website. Click on the DOSBox tutorial.

There is a turorial on this site Leavo. But if you really are stumped and can achieve nothing, start a thread in the Troubleshooting forum and we'll be happy to help you in more depth than generic answers in a game thread. :)

Right at the very top of the Troubleshooting forum. http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=14406
BTW, read the DOSBox readme. If you did, you'd never have to ask either of those questions

thanks all i finally figured it out, with the little knowledge i have w dos!

I'm having trouble with Joy to Key and using a gamepad. Has anyone tried using this game with that software?

This game seemed perfect for a gamepad, but the controls are behaving strangely. Like if i push the thrust key too rapidly when I'm driving my rover, it will return to the ship as though I hit the return button. Same problem when I'm navigate around a solar system. It will hightlight the menu to the right if I tap the thrust key too rapidly.

Anyone encounter the same?

Edit - The reason I'm trying to use JoyToKey is I wanted the gamepad to work like the keyboard. I had much better control with the keyboard. The gamepad and the analog joysticks work, but when I control my rover and ships, they spin around too much. I tried to switch control instead to the direction pad and thrust to a button. But it seems the gamepad is getting confused between it's default behavior and this new JoyToKey control placed on top of it.

Just had a thought. Wonder if I could turn off the joystick in the DOSBox config? That way the only control would be through JoyToKey. hmmm... so crazy it just might work.

EDIT - Yep, that fixed it. Set Joysticktype=none. At first I tried setting Buttonwrap=false and that helped but it still had the old joystick settings for some buttons. So I just shut the joystick off in DOSbox and let Joy to Key take over completely.

awesome game!
 

maybe it's my nostalgia talking, but this game deserves a higher user rating! I loved this game when it came out and still do.
The best thing to do right off is to go to Earth and do what the starbase commander suggests.
Also, get the Urquan Masters port and all the extras for it! You won't run into so many technical problems. This is one of the few old games I come back to time and again to play, it's just awesome! So be sure to send your petition to get the original creators to make a sequal, thanks!

Sadly enough, most games on Abandonia get a 3.x rating despite being brilliant. Personally, this is definitely a 5/5 game as it's a perfect example of how the early 90s inspired original yet deep games.

I do prefer the original DOS version because it's just more nostalgic.

There was a sequel to this game though: Star Control 3. Released some 12 years ago I believe. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't on par with SC2's brilliance. The humour wasn't as good, the brilliant MOD music of SC2 was replaced with more generic music, the story was poor (especially what they did to the legendary Precursors :mad: ) and the slightly tilted melee combat view made combat more frustrating and less fun.

Now I'm not sure if people condone this... but does that old lander 'bug' work on this downloadable version?

Great Game
 

I noticed a lack of posts in this forum. But for anyone interested, if you have the Ur-Quan Masters version, if you haven't found these already, there is a nice collection of fan made mods.

http://www.star-control.com/fan/mods.php

There are some that rebalance the game, remove/extend the time limit, and one that makes it way more challenging. I don't know if you can use them all at once or not, but I have several different copies set up with the different mods. Totally new experience for a few different playthroughs once you beat the original ;)

Best. Game. Ever.
 

Well, Betrayal at Krondor being the 2nd contestant...

We still have beer & pretzels Super Melee battles with friends.

The grand adventure with all the background and various tidbits is simply amazing as well.

no coordinates of the star at the beginning
 

forgive my dumb question...
when i start the game, in the first image there is a star, but there are no coordinates...so i can't search the star name in the manual
please, can you help me?
thanks!!!

I'm not finding any mod that removes the time limit. One extends it by 100 years, but do you know of a mod that actually removes it?

jSRPOz
 

Last time I played this game, must have been 15 years ago, but I think I will never forget

"Must break target into component compounds"

Such an awesome, awesome game.

Sold on GOG now. :max:

Edited Ships
 

Reading these posts reminded me of something I did in college years ago. I've spent years and years playing this game and I still love it. As an amateur computer programmer, I like to tinker with files just for fun. Using a Hex editor, I've located some of the key spots where data for the Starcon ships are and I've been able to modify them. Included in these files is a ship called Zardz. It's basically a Pkunk, but instead of doing one point of damage per shot, it does 6 and has an instantaneous energy recharge rate. I've beaten the Su-matra, the most difficult ship in the game, in about 20 secs. with 1 Zardz ship. Download them and place them in your Starcontrol 2 directory. They don't overwrite any of the existing ships, they just become new ships you can choose when you play SuperMelee. They appear just like the other ships do-they look exactly the same, but have awesome attributes.

You can download them here: http://www.filedropper.com/superships

PS. If you want to use these ships in the role-playing game, you have to copy the modified ship file over the original ship file--Make a backup of the original first!!!

didn't read the whole thread, but what about the music: I am playing it now and it's awesome! perfect setting and electro style!

@jdogbrunner: can you attach the file here (in 7z or rar format)? that URL didn't work

Hosted@ http://www.angelfire.com/wv/skanko/starcon2.html

Best Game Ever
 

I spent tons of my free time as a 12 year old going through and making my own hint book for StarCon, listed every rainbow world, the best planets for resources and aliens, and all the major items. I did the same for StarCon 3 when it came out, but it was never as fun as SC2. For anyone who wants a tip, you should focus on tech from the melonorme as much as possible...once you use their tech to upgrade your Flagship, it is unstoppable.

Problem
 

Cant delete it and cant start it cause my computer wont work with it. Where can I find it so I can delete it

Maybe it's in your Documents folder under Downloads? Have you tried playing it with dosbox?

It sounds like you're trying to install and run this game on Windows. It's a DOS game, and requires DOSBox to run: http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=14406
Describe what did you do when trying to start the game and what happened.
Describe what did you do when trying to delete the game and what happened.
The same place you downloaded it to.

Gravis Ultrasound support
 

Hm, yet another game that sounds better with Gravis Ultrasound emulation (in DOSBox). More natural sounds with smoother transition between the notes. Previous game I discovered with this trick was recent Reunion which also uses Tracked Music. Now I wonder about other such games :mhh:

Anyways, to cut to the chase:
change this line in your .conf:
and start the game with
Not sure if that would work in Abandonia's package case because it loads .COM first, which then loads the .EXE (reckon to bypass the most annoying copy protection in history). I use the crack from romulus server which allows separate .EXE run, and Gravis :OK: