Aces Over Europe
 

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review

How'd you drop bombs?!
and this will hopefully apply to AOTP aswell...

Umm..... I think I'ts the Backspace key but I'm not sure....
At least it is on my game :wink:

cool...
die, fuhrer!

:oops:

hossa18 supplied us with the quick reference card for the game at the same time that he gave us the game. We had just forgot to place it up.

I will not try to make excuses... I just want to say that this has been fixed and that the quick reference card is now available for download.

I have a problem with AOE.
My computer has a Pentium3 with 128MB, Matrox 32MB video card, Win 98.
Started AOE by Boot disk, great.
Then I was shot at : when the plane is hit, image disappears for several seconds. Unplayable.
Tried the same game on DOSBOX and Win 2000, more powerful computer ; it works OK but too slow.

Can I do something to fix the "blackout" problem ?
By the way, Aces Over the Pacific works fine, but no sound...

Just for the record.
Tried boot disk on different computers, systems ranging from win 98 to 2000 to Millennium to XP : it is always the same as above : AOTP no sound, AOE goes black when plane is hit.
Tried old boot disc by Sierra in Win 98 ; doesn't work, no available memory.
A pity; AOE is full of add ons like Aces Over Russia, but there's no way to get it working.
Interestingly, when I go DOS via Boot Disk or DosBox my (normally Italian) keyboard changes...
This means I have to type Ascii ALT-58 to get " : "....
But on laptops Ascii doesn't work...

Sigh

the game is great! thanks guys.. i have no sound and malfunctioning mouse at first, but i used that install.exe and configured everything. everything works fine now. very difficult game to learn and master though. it boasts of realistic flight models but the stall is irritating. you must not get blackouts on STALLS, the aircraft should only nose down or dive (may it be power-on or power-off stalls), really irritating especially if you're already at the tail and about to shoot at an ace. blackouts are only acceptable i think if you're hit. on expert mode all bandits are sharpshooter they'll kill you in seconds and they're very difficult to shoot at.
AOE Overall rating: 8.4638734 of 10

Took a few minutes, but I knew I'd read about the screen blackout problem before. There's an easy fix (this info from the readme):

Problem: Screen goes blank or becomes garbled when plane is hit by enemy
fire.
Solution: Some video cards cannot display the "screen shake" that occurs
when planes are hit by enemy fire. To fix the problem, change to the AOE
directory and type: SHAKEOFF. This will turn off the screen shaking
feature. SHAKEMED will allow a medium amount of screen shake and may
be an option for some video cards. SHAKEON will turn the screen shaking
back on.

So... give that a shot. :>

:cheers: thanks wazza, i used the shakeoff.bat file and it worked. how lazy, i didn't read the readme file coz i was excited of the game. thanks again.

Wazza, God Bless you.
Now it works.

About stalls : in AOE if the plane stalls when not flying straight, it will enter a spin. That is realistic, EXCEPT that in real planes usually after 2-3 turns the spin damps itself and recovery is possible.
If that doesn't happen, applying rudder (NOT aileron) in opposite direction will make exit possible.
It seems this doesn't happen in AOE : if you enter a spin you crash.
Command for baling out : Ctrl-B .
Two useful links with new scenarios and utilities :

http://www.gamers.org/pub/games/uwp-...im-mirror/AOE/

www.aor.orc.ru

Warning : in the 1940-41 expansions, it is possible to fly for Italian Regia Aeronautoica.... but in a Luftwaffe career. External views will show German markings on the wings.
This notwithstanding, it is the only free sim I know of featuring Macchi 200 and Fiat CR42.

Played a bit more.
It is possible to exit a spin by rudder;on my keyboard rudder is "," and ".".
The main drawback is defensive fire by bombers : it is very precise, much more than in reality, and it goes all around the bomber, without blind spots.
This means that for example the Defiant, turret armed fighter available in Aces 1940 expansion, can shoot forward and downward too, and with deadly effects, making it almost unbeatable, while in reality it was a very poor fighter.

Grerat game, anyway.

I used to play AOTP all the time when I had a 386. I use windows XP Pro, and I have no idea how to use the Abandonia boot disc. Can someone give me some pointers or something?

swinger_bruzer@yahoo.com

Never found it difficult avoiding the defensive fire from the bombers. Maybe it is because I was use to Chuck Yeager's Air Combat where they seemed to never miss. What cheeses me is when you make a head on attack on a fighter and, despite wildly jinking when you see him open fire, find yourself ripped to shreds.

If anything, the main draw back was the exclusion of the Bf-110 or the fact they never made one reflecting the Eastern front...

BTW: Never played it with the expansion.

Yet another add-ons page.

http://argonv.tripod.com/AoE_Page.html

Another discovery about add-ons.
It is possible to use them to simulate a career spanning from the 1939 Poland Campaign to 1945 (and beyond, since there's a 1946 add on).
Keep in mind that every add on must be copied in a separate directory on which the original AOE is already installed. So, if you want to make four different campaigns, you need four different directories, and four different installations.
The trick consists in copying the rooster.dat file from the old to the new directory ; this will take yourt pilots, with victories, points, medals etc. to the new campaign.
Pilots from dissolved aviations, such a s Polish or French after 1940, can go on in a RAF career.

Could anyone post a full list of controls.
I am missing in bombing missions the ability of a bombing view (how to target your bombs?) is there a key for that?
Are there any keys for releasing bombs one at a time because backspace releases all of them at once >(like you have 3 bombs and it flushes them all)
I really want to devastate my ground targets and this problem also occurs in AOTP.
Thanx for any help in advance.

I think you can just release bombs at once.
For aiming, I use dive bombing or extremely low level bombing. It works.

It must be noticed that, contrary to bombs, rockets can (must) be released one at a time (key "r" ).
So if wanting to bust many ground targets, choose an aircraft able to carry them.
In career mode you can decide ordnance only if you have an high grade, so do NOT start as a lieutenant.

Another key : to drop external fuel tank use "d".

I especially recommend tyhe AOEFiX patch at http://www.gamers.org/pub/games/uwp-...im-mirror/AOE/.

From instructions :
----------------------------------------------------------
AOEFIX.ZIP

Title : ACES OVER EUROPE Patch: Pilot Gunnery (IBM)

Tired of getting blown away by aces who never miss and who always
out-turn you? Tired of getting shredded by bomber gunners? Use this patch
and you'll actually see AI controlled pilots shoot more and MISS. Does not
modify original AOE files. Installation instructions included.
Nicholas Bell.

---------------------------------------------------------------

Mind this is for ORIGINAL AOE only.
Add ons scenarios (aces 1940 etc) already have something similar installed.

Also very useful, patches for bringing computer planes ammo load to player's level (on same server) : as a default they're 3 times higher, meaning that once you've used your ammo they'll follow and shoot you until you crash.
No survival from fighter sweepo and escort missions.

Add ons have these patches installed , but you need to read their readme file to see how to properly use them.

I really hated this game; I gave it a good solid try before abandoning it in frustration, but I just didn't like it . The key problem with it is this:

After playing for a while, you will inevitably encounter a 'mission' wherein you have to beat comically ridiculous odds in order to have your character survive. You can't temporarily quit, so you have to play the same impossible mission over and over, and over, and over, and over, and over,and over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and so on. Inevitably you grow tired of this and quit, at which point the 'character' that you've worked on dies or is captured.

So if you like playing the type of game where you are forced to repeat a 'level' ad naseum before you're allowed to progress, dig in.

So, if one of the people involved in the making of this game ever reads this, be it years from now, please punch yourself in the face.

When you face such a mission, you can just push esc a few seconds after it starts. and ask to quit .
It will tell you it is dangerous, but will let you land anyway.

I must say in my experience there are no "impossible" missions, if you accept the possibility of just running away instead of fighting.
In these instances, I see the, let's say, 12 enemies, make it for home, inevitably get reached by a couple, fight them and IF I shoot them down I can land peacefully...

I also have a personal rule : if I get shot down without having drawn blood, I.E. without having shot down at least one myself, I repeat the mission.
Otherwise, I accept the result and face the consequences.
One pilot out of twenty makes it through a campaign, with these rules.
Ah, flying anything different from a fighter is certain death.

Hey I have a problem. I am trying to run AOE in DOSBox 0.61 and when I start the game it goes through a part of the intro and then just seems to freez up. And dosbox stops responding. I am runing Windows XP on an AMD Athlon XP 2400+ with 512 mb of ram. Anyone have any suggetions? Thanks in advance.

Jeremiah: You just have to increase the framerate to around 10.000-12.000

To the person who is having trouble with repeating difficult missions: You can also just backup your career after each successful mission - that way you can "bail out" without penalty when encountering a mission that is too difficult. Then you just restore your backed up career and click fly next mission (I think it will be another mission then but it has been a while since I have played the game)

Wow GREAT quick reference card. You can really learn how to do views from inside and outside of the plane.... And it's all written in 2 pages that are completelly the same. So if you overlook something on first page you can still learn it on the other page. :wall: :not_ok:

Now, how about some reference card with action keys??? :help:

I have a rather frustrating problem with this one. My joystick is calibrated in the "control panel"in windows, I calibrated it in the preferences menu in the game and its fine in there, but when I fly a mission, it acts as if my joystick is pulled allthe way to the left. Whenever I try to take off, I turn too fast once I get an inkling of speed and crash.

When using DosBox.61 the only way I can get the program to run is to type in the command line from the AOE shortcut(gcdjoy). After it launches the screen is very small and I was wondering if there is anyway to maximize the DosBox window. Also when using the shortcut command line, the game won't let me use a joystick. Can someone help me? Thanks!

Hello,

Maybe I'm just being stupit but I just don't seem to get this game (and many more on abandonia) started. I'm running WINxp...When I downloaded the game(s) and unzip it I get the icons to doubble click to start the game, my screen turns black for about a second and then it turns back to the winscreen with all the icons...
Is there a sollution to this problem?

thanks...

Those games are probably just not meant to be run in WinXP. Have you tried using DOSBox as recommended in the review?

SCREW AOE, lemme ask ya a question: Are you a real flight-sim pilot? It seems to me that you're one of those guys who want nothing more than fly and shoot. To fly AOE you must know aerial dogfighting tactics, and the characteristic of each airplane--the one you fly and the one you fight against. For example, following a tight turning dogfight against a Bf-109 in a P-47 is not a healthy way of live; you'll use hit-and-run tactic instead. Understanding basic aerodynamics is also very useful. Remember, AOE is a FLIGHT SIMULATION game! It ain't no arcade shooting stuff!
And about having to repeat the same mission again and again, I don't quite know what did you mean. If you feel that a mission is way too hard, you can just bail out, replay the mission, and when you're still on the runway quit the mission. Your mission will be tagged as failed, and you'll be given another mission. That's all!

Note: If you forget to backup your career and got all shot up, you can use the above mention trick, or close the game forcibly (by CRTL+ALT+DEL). This way, AOE won't save your last mission flown. At least it worked when one day the goddamn electricity's out while I was playing this game.

Did you ever try this? Just after you land, don't kill the engine, keep the throttle at 3 or 4 keyboard setting, and turn outta the runway to the taxiway, then follow the path to the tarmac and park your plane there. I know it's a bit ridiculous (VERY ridiculous if you're not a real flight-simmer), but I find it very pleasant to do.
Have a nice flight!

i have real nice F16 and Mig29 games, but having a dos game like this would let me enjoy true flight sim on my pocket pc...

read my comments on the internet privacy act in the cnc reviews section, and put this back up PLEASE

btw, i already checked google's cache. it's not there. :tomato: :cry: :wall: :sick: :help:

Which part of NO do you not understand? :angry:

well, i've discussed it in another forum, and it is the admin's decision... no need to get angry with me :angel:

Of course not. Kosta is the one who should be angry with you, because obviously it's he as the site owner who would be held responsible.

/me still detects anger.

I dont think he's angry either, he just doesnt quite understand that the origional companies of games NeVeR want their games taken down, it's the people who bought them out and dont understand that the authors want a legacy that do that.

In any case, i DONT want to discuss this in TWO forums anymore. I have stated what i think should happen with this game, and i have nothing else to say in this forum unless someone posts in here again. :whistle:

This has nothing to do with anger, but I still think you're missing the point slightly: this may not sound fair, but what the authors want or don't want and what Bill Clinton does or doesn't permit us to do is in fact irrelevant. It's the people who own the rights who legally own those games, and if they don't like us to put them up here, we won't. It's as simple as that, and that's been the site's policy for quite some time now. And it's not like we had nothing to lose either: ESA could have the entire site closed down; they very nearly did just that a couple of months ago because of a few games which had been put up for download due to a slight misunderstanding. I don't know about you, but I for one really don't think that's a risk worth taking.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the game any more.

This has nothing to do with anger, but I still think you're missing the point slightly: this may not sound fair, but what the authors want or don't want and what Bill Clinton does or doesn't permit us to do is in fact irrelevant. It's the people who own the rights who legally own those games, and if they don't like us to put them up here, we won't. It's as simple as that, and that's been the site's policy for quite some time now. And it's not like we had nothing to lose either: ESA could have the entire site closed down; they very nearly did just that a couple of months ago because of a few games which had been put up for download due to a slight misunderstanding. I don't know about you, but I for one really don't think that's a risk worth taking.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with the game any more. [/b][/quote]
hmm... i am surprised that you were seriously threatened like that.
but of course, all this is your business, not mine, and it's my fault for starting all this :ot: bullshit. I am sorry.

I have nothing more to say. I am deleting my links to these forums, and I will not be checking back.

I have this problem too. I'm using a USB Logitech Dual Action controller, DOSbox on an XP.

From where can i download the game :whistle:

Is there anywhere I can find a joystick fix for AOE. I've got a Logitech Wingman Attack 2 and 3 joystick, both won't calibrate properly in AOE, but will work fine in Aces of the Pacific :blink:

You can't download it it is esa protected.

Here is a link for AOE joystick patch, http://www.patches-scrolls.de/, just follow the directions in readme file. I have the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. This patch fixed the same problem for me.

If you are refering to Aces of the Pacific, return to Abandonia home page, and click on Abondonware link. Click on link, Home of The Underdogs, you will find it there.

Really glad I found this site. I have owned AOE and AOP since 1993 ( really glad to know DOS). These are two of my favorite flight sims, but not been able to use them with XP until DOSBox (CPU cycles at 12000).
Had trouble with joystick (fixed with patch), and sound (Copied ADL driver file from AOP to AOE). Ran install and chose Adlib/Soundblaster sound, fixed sound.
One other way to calibrate joystick, after you start mission, press F10 key, then calibrate. This seems to work best for me.

I just started playing aoe again using dosbox. Man, what a great game it was. Anyway, the full manual can be downloaded at:

http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=1859

ok, so i just found aoe and was able to load it up using DOSBox and was starting to get really excited about it. the whole aces collection was my favorite growing up starting with red baron and ending with aoe. the only problem with the game so far besides the fact that its playing in that really small DOSBox screen is that the game is running really really really slow. i mean, i tap on the keypad once and the next thing i know my whole plane is on its side. is their anything i can do to fix this???

note: i know jack about dos commands and had to use the abandonia tutorial to load the game up. i'm not so worried about the size of the screen but i just hope i can get the game to run at a normal speed since i haven't played it in 13 or so years.

Alt + Enter will set DOSBox to fullscreen mode, and the speed problem could be solved by increasing the number of cycles, as the review recommends. If you're unsure what this means, just take five minutes to read the readme file of DOSBox.

thanks a million! works great now!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Artiglio @ Dec 26 2004, 08:03 PM) [snapback]41841[/snapback]</div>Hi Folks,

I used to play AOE on my pentium 2 win 98. but now I I have an athalon or something like that....I'm not computer savy at all....the boot disk keeps trying to load to LL and has no options to change it. I have read some of the posts and will try install.exe and also something about ascii alt-58 and hold my face just right and hope fer the best but Ill probubly be back with dumb questions :sos:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Artiglio @ Dec 26 2004, 08:03 PM) [snapback]41841[/snapback]</div>Hi Folks,
So I got the boot disk and it keeps trying to load to LL and I can't seem to fighre it out. It won't let me switxh to C:......I haven't got a clue how to use that Dos Box thing....sure want to play my old game

You might want to check out the official DosBox FAQ, and particularly this part of it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(grasshopper @ Jan 31 2006, 04:25 AM) [snapback]201904[/snapback]</div>It looks like this link is not working.

But i have found in this one:
[url=http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?name=Aces+over+Europe]http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?name=Aces+over+Europe

I looks like we have to build the manual, and there is a dll missing:
Missing DLL

Hope you find usefull!

Enjoy the game!

When I activate it I see the opening cinema just fine.

But then a box pops up that says I don't have enough memory to run it .

I have 512 MBs of RAM . l o l

8^ ]

It seems you are trying to run the game in plain Windows. I strongly suggest you use DosBox instead.
You can download it here.

You might want to check out the official DosBox FAQ, and particularly this part of it. It is quite helpful for users unfamiliar with DosBox.

Thanks, Horseman for responding !

I'd rather not use "DOSBox" 'cause I wanna "relive" -- if you will -- the experience of playing directly on a computer.

Is thier any other way to play this utter classic ?
I think if the CD was sold it's meant ta be played directly! l o l


Thanks In Advance!
:)

set ems and xms memory to maximum in properties of the exe which you run. by the way..i would still use dosbox..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CaryMG @ Mar 28 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]285318[/snapback]</div>If you try DosBox, you'll find out that using it doesn't detract from your gameplay experience. You will be able to play the game normally - just like if it was running on an oldschool DOS PC, command line and everything. You don't have to use any of the advanced features of DosBox (grahpic scalers, improved sampling rates etc) if you don't want them.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CaryMG @ Mar 28 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]285318[/snapback]</div>It's a DOS game. Trying to run it in Windows isn't a good idea, and same goes for running it on modern machines (because of lack of hardware compatibility).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(CaryMG @ Mar 28 2007, 03:41 PM) [snapback]285318[/snapback]</div>If you really are that desperate to go the hard way... get the phone numbers for the game publisher's tech support line and Microsoft's tech support. Keep bothering both until the people there figure out what to do.
Of course, this can take a while...

Thanks for the help, HorseMan !

I suppose my main question is why do the other games on the CD -- "Red Baron" & "Aces Of The Pacific" -- work flawlessly
in XP but the one game I bought the CD for -- Aces Over Europe" -- doesn't ?

Why don't the other games suffer from the "DIVIDE INTEGER BY 0" problem ?

By the way -- I only have InterNet access on Tuesdays & Wednesdays and that's the reason for the delays in my responses ! l o l


Thanks In Advance !
:)

Nobody said they were all programmed the exact same way. And every XP-equipped computer seems to have its own compatibility quirks too.

PS. Please reduce your signature. Maximum allowed size is 30 kb with maximum dimensions being 450x100 pixels.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Apr 3 2007, 03:20 PM) [snapback]286063[/snapback]</div>Hoi guys,

I've got a little problem here. When I installed the game everything worked fine. However my arrow keys have stopped responding and my logitech dual action USB joystick is pulling to the left all the time. Does anyone know how I can completely reset the in-flight controls to their default settings? :sos:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Apr 3 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]286063[/snapback]</div>Ohhhhh ....
kk
Man .... l o l

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Apr 3 2007, 11:20 AM) [snapback]286063[/snapback]</div>Whoopsie ! l o l
Sorry sorry for the mixup !
Done & done !

By the way, I'd be willing to pay someone to iron out that "Integer Bug" thingie to make it compatible with XP.
What'd be a fair price to pay for that ?


:)

That error message is only one of the symptoms, while the actual cause may go far deeper into the program code.

Unfortunately, only people who could fix that are those who programmed Aces Over Europe to start with - if any one of them still has the sourcecode.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Apr 4 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]286121[/snapback]</div>Oh man ....
Man that hurts ....
I'm a huge fan of the flatshade polygonal asthetic & The only other World War II flightsimualtor like that takes place in the Pacific Theater --
Eric Parker's masterpiece "Hellcats Over The Pacific" for the Macintosh.
That's why I'm so looking forward to flying "Aces Over Europe".
And there's the Damon Slye pedigree !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Apr 4 2007, 07:00 AM) [snapback]286121[/snapback]</div>I see ....

HorseMan, I cannot thank you enough for all of your help, clarity & frankness !

I guess I'll hafta go the "DOSBox" route.


Thanks Again!
:)

If you have any problems getting the game to work properly in DosBox, post about them either in this thread or in the Troubleshooting forum.
I'll help you as much as I can. ^_^

hello all, just wanted to pop in and say thank you for uplaoding this. I saw the box art update for this game and remembered that my copy of the game had different box art on the front. I believe it showed either a Tempest or a Typhoon chasing after an Me-262 over a bridge with stone towers at either end. I have the box cover laying around here somewhere and if I ever find it I'll scan it and send it to you guys. ;)

I put a nice action video of it online of a base attack.

Click here ta see it ! > "Aces Over Europe" Base Attack Video

And I've also included the video available for downloading playable in the "VLC Player".

Enjoy !


:)

Do anyone know if he source code was released?

AoE and EoP are games worth recompiling to win32 and try to raise its resolution. It should not be that hard...

Also, is there any remake from them?

Have you seen these mods? :max:

http //acepage.beckament.net/aoe.html

Memento
 

I was never able (that souds like shit.. sorry for my bad english... but you understand.. no?) well... as I was telling.. I wasn't never able to play this game on my old 486Sx 33... never know why... some kind of trouble with EMS memory... anyway, Now i remember how I want to play it since far far long....

Thanks from a guy with a horrible memory, for remember to me that game, I try to make it run in my "new" computer... when i find it...

where the &u@# were....:wondering:

Never apologise about your English if it is your 2nd language! And your first instinct was correct! 'I was never able to get to play the game...' is the correct English - so you were right first time!!! I have the compilation Aces over Europe and Aces over the Pacific! To say they are brilliant is still an understatement!

when you find it, use dosbox to run it, it will handle the ems thingies automatically

Sierra/Dynamix published, eh?
Well then, guess it's time to remove the protection, as neither is in ESA anymore. :)

IS there a way to enhance the graphics a bit? Mine doesn't look as nearly as good as on the screens next to the review. all i see are some big blobs and it's very hard to see any planes at all. is there a setting to make it look better? i dont' remember red baron looking this bad and this game came out after it.

Have you tried turning Hi Res on with a button that I believe is available in the in-flight game option menu?

I was looking for something like that, but couldn't find it. well if it is there then it's time to search for it again.

Gregor, I have checked it just a moment ago. It's under F10 key during the flight and it's called Tall Res. But it's ON by default so you may be flying in this mode already.

I remember that because I wasn't able to recognize bandit planes by markings (as markings are shown only when you reach relatively close distance), I have learned to do it by their colours. Of course sometimes I found myself friendly firing, but it worked most of the time.

Newbie posting!

Hello, my problem is about installation.

I've donwloaded the Zip file, extracted it and put all extracted files onto a CDROM.

I've loaded the CDROM into a Windows 3.1 machine from 1995 that I keep for playing my fave games ^_^

However, when I run Install.exe, it asks me to load Disc 1 and I can't do that!

What am I doing incorrectly and how to get around it?

The game is pre-installed. Execute the AOE.COM to play. It is recommended to copy the files to HDD (if you haven't done this already). Try to execute the INSTALL.EXE from HDD to undertake configurations.

Ah, thanks very much for that - I was hoping it would be something straightforward like that and I'm glad the solution is easy too!

I'll have to experiment tonight when I get home from work (if there is time) or try tomorrow night. I'll let you know the results here.

Many thanks again!

Still can never get it to run...
 

Using Dosbox 7.1 on a winXP machine, I keep getting the error - must have 610,000 kbs to run the game and 344,000 in ems or extended dos. I have played around with the memory requirements under the aoe.com and that has not helped.

First of all update dosbox to 0.73 (Won't interfere with 0.71 if you want to keep that one around for some reason)
Game runs fine in it (default dosbox config, no need to change anything, eventually delete your AOE folder and start over again, in case you screwed up something in the game settings ....)
Run 'install' first and set sound to soundblaster (otherwise it will use the horrific pc speaker sounds).

* Why is the sound set to PC speaker in the archive? *

Thanks!!!!!! That made all the difference!

replaced that

I have been having the same type of a problem on my DOS-only computer, (it gets partly through the introduction. but it just kicks me right back into DOS). how do I change the framerate?

You can't increase it - that's just not physically possible. You can only slow it down using the utility Dosraider linked to.

someone NEEDS to post a list of controls, and yes i googled, i got 404'd
and that 'quick reference card' isn't even useful, it doesn't have anyone of the real controls you need to play the game

arrow down-up
arrow up-down
arrow left-roll (turn) left
arrow right-roll (turn) right
, -rudder left
. -rudder right
1 to 9-throttle levels
+,- -increase/decrease throttle
space-fire guns
g -select guns
r -fire rockets (if available)
backspace-drop bombs (all of em, there is no key to drop just one)
d -drop external fuel tank
f -flaps settings
w -wheel brakes
b -air brakes
l (L not I)-landing gear
F1 to F8 -views
F10 -settings
alt+r -realism panel inflight
ctrl+b -bail out

I hope it's all correct, and I did not forget anything.

Correction: Arrow up = dive
Arrow down = climb

don't land with the wheel breaks on!

No DosBox
 

I can instruct on how to run both AOE and AOTP with no DosBox if anyone is still interested in doing so. I have a old Pentium 3 that I use for dos games. But DosBox usually lags on more advanced games such as AOE and AOTP. I got tired of the game always being a little choppy when the flak started flying or when the action got heavy. So I kept messing with different settings untill finally I could run the Game in windows XP. I had played the games for almost a year in DosBox and could never play AOE smooth at all. I mostley played AOTP. The setting is actually pretty simple, And I felt like punching myself for not figuring it out earlier. I always loved these two sims and I am glad I can play them smooth again. I also have some of my own mods if anyone is interested. I have A mod of the later TBF guns with twin 50's , A mod were the KI-27 and KI-43 have one 7.7mm and one 12.7mm guns. And I have made a map of AOTP's BULLET.MEC File were you can easily modify the effects of all guns , And I have a file that makes US torpedos more accurate. And many more mods, to many to go on about. I hope others are still playing it and have mods of there own too. I always wanted a flying tiger P-40 for AOTP. I know AOE has one but as we all know it does not work in AOTP. I have not figured out the tbl code yet. I am still trying to learn.

Could anyone help me with this?

Around the fifth-sixth mission in the Luftwaffe campaign, I'm told to find a train and destroy it, using a recon photo incase I can't.

Apparently the train is invisible because I never see it, nor do I know how to check the recon photo.

All that happens is a few Allied fighters are in the air, I and or my teammates shoot them down, I spend five minutes looking for a train.

What exactly am I supposed to do?

Hello, my Name is Thomas.
I couldnt create a new Thread, so i post my Question here. Im searching for a game, im not sure if Dos or Windows platform. Its a jump and run with a pirate-captain-cat as protagonist. Someone knows this game?

ok, i found it. Its named "Claw". :rolleyes: