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omg 05-06-2005 02:05 PM

ok. i am in the process of quitting the deomen ciggeretes. i am craving nicotine so badly i could gladly rip the head of an adorable cute little puppy. nicotine gum gives me a bad stomach and i must be alergic to the patches, it feels like some1 is punching me on the arm when i wear them, and i go really pale and feel dizzy.
so has anyone got a smoke i can scrounge (jk)
what i really want to know is has anyone here sucsessfully quit ciggeretes (long term smokers pls, not some1 who has smoked for 6 months then quit) i have been smoking over 10 years now. if you have quit ciggeretes tell us how on earth you did it.

xoopx 05-06-2005 02:33 PM

me!
the nicotine withdrawal only lasts a week or so.. you can tough it out without gum or patches! i did!
then when you're "over the hump" its just a case of quitting the habit. this takes a few months until you find you wouldnt ever put one in your mouth again.
the most important thing is to be 100% about it. no cigarettes. at all. not one puff!

Flop 05-06-2005 02:34 PM

I've quit smoking once. Of course I started again, but I did manage to stay off the cigarettes for a while. I'd say that the best solution is to just stop, without the nicotine gum and patches. This is pretty hard for the first week or so, but after that it gets easier and easier. This will only work if you really, really want to quit, otherwise you'll never get through that first week.

That's my advice anyway, others may have better suggestions. Good luck.

*lights up a cigarette and takes a deep drag* :D

Partizanka 05-06-2005 02:37 PM

I quit smoking when I was 16 after almost 3 years of daily smoking, not sure if that counts as long term for you or not. I just decided to stop so I did. It was a little difficult at first, but I'm already so naturally violent and irritable no one really noticed the difference. I mostly quit just to prove to myself that I could. Lived happily smoke free for about 4 years, and recently started up again, although at a greatly reduced rate (no more then 5 cigarettes a week) I'll probably quit again when I get home.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 02:38 PM

I also recommend not going to clubs/gigs so that you don't passively inhale smoke. That can't help at all.

Not that I've ever smoked, it just sounds likely.

Playbahnosh 05-06-2005 02:53 PM

I'm smoking for about 5 years now.
My girlfriend wants me to quit, becouse it bothers her a lot :unsure:
I had two uttery bad attemts to quit, no success...
I only stayed clean 2 days and then came the craving...
I was extremly jumpy and angry for no apparent reason, I was a FREAK!
I made her cry a couple of times, and I was very ashamed of myself :unsure:
Then I started smoking again in secret, and things calmed down...
Now she is starting to find it out, so I have to quit if I don't want to loose her for sure... :cry:

HELP!!!! :cry:

troop18546 05-06-2005 02:56 PM

Just quit and tell someone to beat the crap out of you if you even go near to cigarettes. That should help.

BTW, it ruines your health, WTF did you start anyway??? :eeeeeh:

Playbahnosh 05-06-2005 03:01 PM

"just quit..." Now you say!
If it was THAT easy, don't you think I should have quited already?
IT IS FREAKIN HARD!!!!

Starting it was too easy... you know, friends, teenage adventures and all... Too bad I ever got near it, now I think otherwise, but its too late now I gues... :unsure:

TheGiantMidgit 05-06-2005 03:05 PM

Been smoking since grade 6. What works best is the following: Being broke and loathing buming smokes from people.

troop18546 05-06-2005 03:06 PM

@Playbahnosh

Well, If I told you to rip all of your loot in two that you wouldnt be able to get anymore cigarettes, you'd say "NO WAY!".
But, then again, you'd resort to stealing - leaving you in jail.
Strengthen your will, man. It may be hard (I dont know), but keeping a girlfriend is far more improtant than nicotine.

TheGiantMidgit 05-06-2005 03:10 PM

Different priorities, buddy. Personally, there are a million addictions I'd rather maintain than give up for some broad.

As for why most people start, it's generally the physical effects that attract 'em, the headrush and such.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 03:12 PM

That and being relaxed. My ex smoked because she was suicidally depressed and it took her mind off of things.

She's still alive though, which is nice, but my dad didn't like her at all. My mum was OK with her though. Oh well... she was really nice as well...

omg 05-06-2005 03:15 PM

the headrush is why i started. as for quitting due to a girl, part of the reosen i am quitting is at my wifes insistance, but aLso due to the fact that i was getting this intermittent nasty pain in my lung, felt like the dam thing was collapsing. if shes a good girl and dont nag u about anything else then quit. if shes a nagger though then you are probably going to kill her if she nags you about something whilst you are in the grip of nicotine withdrawl.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 03:16 PM

Hmm that might be going a bit far, but on the other hand, despite passively smoking a hell of a lot, I've never smoked in my life.

Playbahnosh 05-06-2005 03:24 PM

ex...this is the word i dont want to hear... :cry:

troop18546: If you are here to spit people in the face becouse they're smoking, get the hell outta here! I'm not going to rip my cigarettes in two, but I'M NOT A CROOK!!!! :ranting:

What the hell do you know about smoking anyway? And who the F are to tell me who I am, or what I'm going to do??? <_<

If you here to annoy people instead of trying to help, leave now... <_<

Chuck the plant 05-06-2005 03:25 PM

Well, it IS that simple.

Just quit. There's nothing else you can do.
It won't help you to substitute the nicotine you inhale with some nicotine you get into your body via your skin. It's still nicotine and it still gets into your body. Same for gum.
The major addicrion is not the physical one though, but the mental one. You just gotta stop WANTING nicotine (or telling yourself you do, that is). If you canstop smoking for two weeks, your body has overcome the addiction and any problems that occur afterwards are just spawned by your mind. That's a scientific fact. So there is but one way to quit: Not doing it anymore and stop telling yourself you NEED another cigarette. If you aren't really convinced of that, however, there is no way you could stop anyway, because you will always fall back to it.

Just stop. Worked fine for me (allthough I enjoy an occasional cigar every now and then, but that's a different matter).

Danny252 05-06-2005 03:42 PM

best way to quit: dont start.

Quintopotere 05-06-2005 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Danny252@Jun 5 2005, 03:42 PM
best way to quit: dont start.
Definitely the best way!

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 04:16 PM

Well yes, but this is someone who's been smoking for 10 years. To be honest that's not very useful as a comment.

If I were you I would try and find something that you enjoy and do that pretty much solidly for 2 weeks without smoking so that you subconsciously think - not smoking = great.

On the other hand, I'm sure that it's about 100 times easier to write than to do.

Stroggy 05-06-2005 04:18 PM

I hope I never get addicted to cigarettes, i've tried smoking a few times last vacation and I couldn't stand it.

Doubler 05-06-2005 04:21 PM

I only once took a puff when I was drunk, and it did nothing to me. Absolutely nothing.
So I just decided I might as well not start, and I've had no trouble at all with that.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 04:30 PM

That bit's easy, but if you smoked a couple at a party or whatever and you got addicted I bet that it would be hard to stop.

Am I right omg?

omg 05-06-2005 04:41 PM

when i first started i wasnt addicted. it was a gradual thing that it became a daily habit.

Indignus IV 05-06-2005 04:51 PM

Well, I'm 14 so OF COURSE I HAVENT SMOKED! The only advice I have to give is my consolation and JUST QUIT. We have programs at our schools and all that to teach us about "the dangers of smoking"
We watched this movie. If i could get a hold of it for you guys I sware you would never smoke again.
So I take it you guys would advize me not to start, right? :w00t:

troop18546 05-06-2005 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Playbahnosh@Jun 5 2005, 05:24 PM
If you are here to spit people in the face becouse they're smoking, get the hell outta here! I'm not going to rip my cigarettes in two, but I'M NOT A CROOK!!!! :ranting:

What the hell do you know about smoking anyway? And who the F are to tell me who I am, or what I'm going to do??? <_<

If you here to annoy people instead of trying to help, leave now... <_<

You spit in my face just now, I could just as easily find you and kick your a.s.s. for that, but I wont, cause I'm not a jerk.
I didnt call you a crook - I just said that people who dont have the money for cigarettes, often steal other peoples money to buy them. Read my post again if you think I called you a crook.

"What the hell do you know about smoking anyway? And who the F are to tell me who I am, or what I'm going to do???"

I'm not that stupid to go smoking (your case) in the first place. Who are you to call me names? You need help, not me.
Was that annoying? I think not. Anyway, if YOU want it that bad, I wash my hands on the whole thing... :whistle:

BeefontheBone 05-06-2005 04:56 PM

Oh for anything's sake guys, please can we lose all this argumentativeness? The 3xBlah section is really depressing today. If you've nothing USEFUL to say on the subject, don't bother. Yeesh!

omg 05-06-2005 04:57 PM

im trying very hard to quit. having people come on this thread and telling us we r stupid to have started is not constructive. exspecially kids that have NEVER smoked. if you have never smoked dont tell me about how
a: dont start
b: ive never smoked but ...
ect. like i said i want to here from smokers. smug little kids who have never smoked in the first place coming on my thread to diss me and other adult smokers is not helping at all. i already feel like commiting murder im craving a smoke so badly. so u have never smoked, woohoo, dont spam my quiting thread telling me that.

TheVoid 05-06-2005 04:59 PM

Well let me tell you a story, it's not completely related but it's quite interesting. It's not first-hand, I heard it from a friend. This girl (16 or 17 years old, I think) she knew used to smoke daily. One day her parents found her packet when she was away, and at dinner time she found her dinner dish to be full of her cigarettes instead of food. Her parents forced her to smoke the cigarettes (10+, the packet was almost new) one after the other. After that, she's been completely hating the whole smoking thing.

As a tip to stop smoking, you could use some external help (for example, betting with friends that if you start again you'll have to pay a penalty or do a very stupid thing - like entering completely naked a McDonalds, or something like that) and find something to substitute the cig routine, like eating a candy or calmly enjoying your willpower while breaking in two the cigarette you're about to smoke. It's all a matter of mentality, really.
Self-control brings self-esteem, from personal experience.

Edit: and I'm in the former smokers cathegory.

Indignus IV 05-06-2005 05:07 PM

OMG, did I put you down for smoking? I really dont care wether you smoke or not. But I told you before, you have my support. That movie I was talking about is like "holy cow!" you get to see all the junk that happens inside your body when you smoke. I felt like throwing up afterward. I dont think i can get it for you guys, but if you ever see it, tell me. Its horrible. (i know im never smoking)

Beef: I totally agree. This day is so depressing.

Tulac 05-06-2005 05:10 PM

Another good part about stopping somking is that your health regenerates pretty quickly, and the risk of lung cancer and other smoking related diseases diminishes with time...

Indignus IV 05-06-2005 05:16 PM

YEP

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indignus IV@Jun 5 2005, 04:51 PM
Well, I'm 14 so OF COURSE I HAVENT SMOKED! The only advice I have to give is my consolation and JUST QUIT. We have programs at our schools and all that to teach us about "the dangers of smoking"
We watched this movie. If i could get a hold of it for you guys I sware you would never smoke again.
So I take it you guys would advize me not to start, right? :w00t:

Yeah, um thanks for that.

At least I tried to help instead of just being totally unhelpful. I bet that it didn't tell you that it's relaxing and keeps your weight down, did it?

I bet it said 'OMG SMOKING IS TEH SUK' or something.

I really hate videos like that which don't give a reasoned argument. Another excellent example that I've just watched is one about Alcohol.

It was like 'It makes you depresesed, angry and destructive. It makes everyone hate you and you become poor. It makes you want to set your own face on fire, such is your self-loathing' all of that crazy crap, not 'it helps you relax and take your mind off things and is good fun with your mates'.

Ach I digress, I'm probably doing more harm than good.

omg 05-06-2005 05:58 PM

alchahol is great. but hey thats jsut my opinion.. btw
Quote:

I bet it said 'OMG SMOKING IS TEH SUK'
hahahahahahaha. LOL. rofl ect.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 06:09 PM

You should put that up in your bedroom as a motivational poster.

Along with the dates for my next Brichno set.

TheGiantMidgit 05-06-2005 06:12 PM

All those motivational films are great for a laugh. From meth use to coke, you just can't get a higher form of comedy.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 06:12 PM

ah yes... solvent abuse videos are always a laugh - but remember kids, solvents are not.

TheGiantMidgit 05-06-2005 06:15 PM

"Hi! I'm Bert McDoodles, the crime fighting bear, and I'm here to tell you 'cool kids don't huff gasoline'!"

Chuck the plant 05-06-2005 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Jun 5 2005, 05:53 PM
I really hate videos like that which don't give a reasoned argument.
The fact that smoking blows the risk-rate for almost EVERY sort of cancer through the roof and that cancer isn't exactly the nicest way to leave this world should be "reasoned arguement" enough, don't you agree? :blink:

Puffin 05-06-2005 06:37 PM

I used to smoke every day for few months, but never got addicted. Cigs are expensive, so i just quit. After that, I had a cig when drinking every now and then. Now I don't anymore.

I guess I'm lucky..

Quintopotere 05-06-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by omg@Jun 5 2005, 04:57 PM
like i said i want to here from smokers. smug little kids who have never smoked in the first place coming on my thread to diss me and other adult smokers is not helping at all.
Please don't get angry... i'm 26 and i never smoked... i know that that can't help you, but i hope that this thread could be useful also to who maybe is thinking to start...

BeefontheBone 05-06-2005 07:25 PM

Surely nobody plans to start smoking - wake up one morning and think "What shall I do today? Might start smoking, that'll fill the void. Plus it'll shorten my life so I won't have to decide what to do so many times before I die. Excellent!"? I think people tend to do it just to fit in with peers when they're teenagers more than anything else, and that, it has to be said, is one of the lamest reasons for doing anything known to man.

I have the occasional cigarette, usually if i'm stressed at or after work or if i've had a few drinks, and it's really a spliff substitute. Don't know why I do it really, it's entirely daft.

Indignus IV 05-06-2005 07:28 PM

So I'm the most likely person on this site to start smoking? Figures.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 07:33 PM

I think that it's more due to curiousity than anything else, that's the reason I'd start.

Indignus IV 05-06-2005 07:43 PM

Prejudice, do you smoke?

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 07:45 PM

Not yet, but I'm sort of curious of what it's like. On the other hand, I get bronchitis every year and once had pluracy (near-fatal too) so it might not be a great idea.

xoopx 05-06-2005 07:46 PM

ive beaten several addictions, smoking was -NOT- the hardest.
so you can do it.
its 99.9% willpower. who is stronger, the addiction or you?

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 07:48 PM

Fair enough, that's what I had heard as well.

Should I bother trying it or not?

omg 05-06-2005 08:06 PM

naa man. dont bother with it. if you are a non smoker the only time to smoke is when you go to amsterdam.

PrejudiceSucks 05-06-2005 08:24 PM

LOL OK. Thanks for that, mate, you've really helped me out :D

Playbahnosh 05-06-2005 09:18 PM

As a strong smoker, I always advise people around me to DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT STARTIN IT! I know, I know..."Who's talking?" right?... But I really mean it. I was a complete idiot to start smoking in the first place, now I cannot quit...
I really aprriciate the helpful comments here, I may be on road to quit now, but I'm the kind of man who needs encouraging to do hard tastks, its just me, sorry... :unsure:

And the other non-smokers, who come here to tell us "Don't smoke, it's bad for your health/ Dont start it!" I say: We already know that, thank you, really! :D

But the ones who just here to annoy people, and brag about how good is to be non-smoking to us who wants to quit, they should really go elsewhere... <_<
I think I said that most mildly...

omg 05-06-2005 11:21 PM

you can quit man, i just lapsed and had a cigar. but im still quitting, last week i was smoking up to 40 roll ups a day. the last 4 days i have smoked mb 10 rollups. 2 day all i have had is 2 small cigars. 2 morrow i hope to have just one small cigar. then in a weeks time hopefully no cigars.

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 02:06 AM

Hey, prejudice........you the guy who got the sponge left in him after pluracy surgery? hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa! My moms cousin is a medical technician and every surgery she assists in she has to keep track of all the instruments used, even the amount of gauze. So if at the end there is something short, that means its in the patient and they got to open him up again. :D

omg 06-06-2005 09:47 AM

what has this got to do with quitting smoking?

A. J. Raffles 06-06-2005 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OMG@Jun 6 2005, 09:47 AM
what has this got to do with quitting smoking?
Maybe his mum's cousin happens to be a heavy smoker as well? http://mordor.uni.cc/forum/style_emo...ult/dntknw.gif
The only people I know who've successfully stopped smoking, just stopped, without fussing about with nicotine-flavoured chewing gum and the like. But they said it was bloody hard to keep up.

omg 06-06-2005 10:10 AM

what im doing at the moment is chewing a cigar, may sound crazy but it seems to be working better than the dam patches and gum.

A. J. Raffles 06-06-2005 10:12 AM

Will that help you to quit, though?

omg 06-06-2005 10:14 AM

well im not smoking it.

A. J. Raffles 06-06-2005 10:19 AM

Well, no. But it isn't really helping the addiction either, is it?

omg 06-06-2005 10:28 AM

you have a point. but its better than sitting here in the grip of nicotine withdrawel. i have addictive personality syndrome, probably genetic however being english the treatments for that syndrome are unavailable here. i have been through many addictions in my short life, but nicotine has always been the crutch. when i quit something else i always used to fall back onto smoking loads of ciggeretes. (o and lovely lovely alchahol) also my lovely lovely wife has just been nagging me, so i have lit up the damn cigar!! however, i refuse to feel weak as i am smoking a hell of a lot less than i was last week if i continue at this pace i will be clear of this dam poiseness lung crushing heart destroying vice soon.

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 12:04 PM

Yeah.. umm Indignus, its' not really a laughing matter. I had 1.5 lungs full of mucus and was about to die.

I also now have scars all around my back, so take your stupid 13 year old opinions to another forum you stuck-up prick.

Also, maybe the reason that *plays viola* no-one likes you at school is that perhaps you're too arrogant and obnoxious for them.

Nuff said.

Back to smoking though, yes, the treatments are unavailable and also will probably make you grown another mipple or something too and that would never do at all.

I can understand what you're saying, whenver something goes really wrong for me I get back to my addiction which is computer games. Been playing since I was 3 and will probably play forever.

I know that it's just a mild form of hypnosis, but there we are. It allows me to take my mind off of things.

omg 06-06-2005 12:07 PM

another nipple would be cool!! just for freaking people out at partys!
a game addiction isnt to bad. there are loads worst addicitons out there. i cant transfer my nicotine addiction onto games though, becuse i get to the hard point in the game and get really stressed out, playing games when im craving a smoke just makes the craving worst. a lot worst.
maybe derren brown will make a game that hypnotises you into not wanting to smoke. i would play that. would be a bit better for humanity than his zombie hypnosis game.

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 12:11 PM

yeah, I guess... I recommend NOT playing System Shock 2 if you need a ***, it will break your nerves and you'll be crying for a smoke.

I recommend something like Mr Driller or Freelancer instead.

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 01:58 PM

Back real quick to the hold pluracy thing: Prejudice, please dont immediatly flame me. I was actually quite interested in your surgery (I volunteer at the hospital myself) I just thought it sounded funny to have a sponge left in your body. I did'nt realize it was such a sensitive subject with you. :tomato:

On the subject of smoking: OMG , you just have to bite the bullet and get past the withdrawal. Show how strong you are, man!

omg 06-06-2005 01:58 PM

it has nothing to do with quitting smoking, and here you go raising it again.

A. J. Raffles 06-06-2005 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indignus IV@Jun 6 2005, 01:58 PM
I did'nt realize it was such a sensitive subject with you. :tomato:
He didn't flame you, Indignus, but common sense would tell you that their almost dying might be a sensitive subject with most people. Just leave it at that point, OK?

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 02:31 PM

ive never heard of pluracy before. didnt think it was life threatening

ANYWAY! BACK ON TOPIC!
How much can you say about how to stop a nicotine addiction? Havent we said it all? I think OMG's question has been answered ten times over. Maybe we should let this thread sink. :whistle:

omg 06-06-2005 02:35 PM

who the hell are you? what pit of hell did you crawl out from? i agree with what prejudice said about you. 10 times over.

A. J. Raffles 06-06-2005 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Jun 5 2005, 07:45 PM
...once had pluracy (near-fatal too)...
Well, that looked straightforward enough to me... :blink: Incidentally, it's spelt 'pleurisy', which may be why it didn't look familiar to you, Indignus. At any rate it's hardly a joking matter...

Anyway, as long as OMG hasn't actually managed to quit smoking, there's still some justification to this thread, I believe.

Or have you quit in the meantime? Didn't think so. :D

BeefontheBone 06-06-2005 02:50 PM

Well if I was him I think reading this thread would lead to me needing a cigarette to cope with the increased stress...

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 02:52 PM

Pluracy in the UK, mate, but yes.

Indignus, please stop hijacking the threads and if I did flame you, you really did deserve it. Learn when to just be quiet and think about what you're going to say, ok?

Some other things for you to try, OMG, include playing easy games and trying to create nicotine-free cigarettes. That study, in time, will lead to world happiness.

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 02:56 PM

Actually I used to have a slight alcohol addiction. I got off of it by drinking tons of coffee instead. Maybe it also works for nicotine, i dont know. The trick is to get stuck on something else that is not dangerous, but will take your mind off of ciggies. :D There. Did I think before I spoke? I think so.

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 03:00 PM

Yeah, caffeine is not totally safe to drink vast quantities of and I think that you're probably in 'unnecessary bravado mode' after getting a hammering from the general population of the forum.

You're trying to make up for it by mock-empathy and to be honest, it isn't paying off.

Rogue 06-06-2005 03:08 PM

Smoking is good for you health!

Same goes for alcohol....


And I like to be healthy. :D

I used to smoke a lot, especially between 1992-95, but one morning, after almost puked my lungs out, I decided to stop. It was not hard. Soon I had way to much money on the hand, so I had to get some new games and alcohol... LOL

Also because I quit smoking, I gained a lot of weight.

So just advice to all - quiting smoking might be dangerous... :D

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 03:12 PM

Yeah, Prejudice. And you are in "make fun of the kid" mode and it sure as heck isnt paying off. LOL

Take off! Like you aren't showing bravado. No one else on this site flames me as much as you do! Go flex your muscles at somebody else! :D

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 04:03 PM

uh what?

I'm just trying to make the point that you really aren't helping. If it was bravado I'd be like 'Hey, I have biceps as tall as Cambrdge Cathedral' before then trying to sexually harass Puffin, like most people are in the bragging forum.

What you need is to be a little quieter around here and take a look at the posts that have been made before you arrived, to get a flavour of the site. Or flavor if you're into that.

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 04:07 PM

Okay, fine! See? we can come to an agreement like civilized people. Look, if you dont say anything derogatory to me I will try as hard as my hard little teenage heart can to not be derogatory to you. :bye:

xoopx 06-06-2005 04:19 PM

stop arguing already! you had a fight and now you're both done with it.

this isnt the counter-strike forums, the bigger man walks away from the fight here!

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 04:20 PM

True. I know that this isn't the CS forums, I have never been on them for a good reason.

I am trying to help and at the same time trying to stop Indignus from breaking this whole thing. I'm sorry if I have made it worse.

Argith Nuei 06-06-2005 04:35 PM

I,ve been smoking for about five years now and I,ll admit that i havent quite stopped smoking yet. But during the last few months i have cut down quite a lot.
I noticed it after i started going through a simple workout routine every other day or so. Now I mostly use... eh... What the heck is it called in english. Snus...
:blink: You know... You put it under you upper-lip...
Anyhow... I mostly *snus now* (which supplies me with my need for nicotine) and keeps my lungs smokefree. I,ve gradually started usin smaller amounts of *snus* and Im seeing improvement slowly. I wont say that I dont have a cigarette now and then, but Im doing much better now than before. A good workout seems to lessen you interest in smoking (worked for me), and if you just get that itching in your fingers try shuffling a deck of cards. (Managed to keep me occupied for quite some time when i feel the urge.)
I guess I have the norwegian navy to thank for keeping me with enought time to do some workout, actually they require me to do it for one and a half hour, five days a week. :D

I dont know if this is any help, but I believe that if I keep at it I can overcome the urge. Good luck! :ok:

Playbahnosh 06-06-2005 06:39 PM

Smoking can only be quit if you just stop. Thats that. If you just smoke less and less or do anything that gets nicotine in your bloodstream, you just prolong your suffering! :crazy:
I'm still smoking, but I know that quiting cannot be done by smoking less and less... You are going to go insane for a cigarette over time, you will be extremly angry at people for no reason and you will only strenghten your addiction by prolonging your suffering... Trust me, I've tired... and FAILED!!! :unsure:
The only sure way is just STOP. Ask your friend to help you! That helps a lot!

Tell them to be more accepting towards you during that period, and keep you away from smoking when they can, like "Over my dead body, dude!" :Titan: . You will forget what you said and sweared when you are craving, so assure your compainons to be straight, even when you are saying you give up! If you can last for two weeks without *any* form of nicotine, you are considered to be lucky! :ok:
That means the nicotine craving will diminish, but then you must deal with the mental and reflexive craving! It is important! If you don't deal with the reflexive state of your craving, you will fail! I failed here! :unsure:
Like, many smokers enjoy a draft after a delicious meal, of after...um...being with his/her beloved or if you are stressed or upset about something. You must substitute these actions with something that *not even remind you of smoking*!

If you do this, you will be cleared! It is hard and you WILL suffer a LOT, but don't give up! :ok:
I'm here to help anybody deciding to quit!
(then maybe you'll help me quit! :unsure:)

any opinions?

PrejudiceSucks 06-06-2005 06:40 PM

I'll try and help anyone who listens.

Playbahnosh 06-06-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Jun 6 2005, 07:40 PM
I'll try and help anyone who listens.
Thats very rewarding PrejudiceSucks, really! Thx for the cooperation. I may need your help in the future :ok:


Quote:

THIS IS TO EVERYBODY: Please do your ranting and fighting elswhere, and don't ruin this thread. It is important to me and a handfull of people here I guess. There is enough spamming and ranting topics around (sadly :unsure: ), so don't come here to annoy or tease people or each other, okay? Thanks for your time! :ok:*

omg 06-06-2005 11:45 PM

its really cool to see people who have actually smoked and quit, and who smoke and try to quit. who actually have experiance in this area. talking to each other about this. makes it a bit easier.

Indignus IV 06-06-2005 11:47 PM

Glad to hear that, old chap. I do what I can, but I am no expert on cigs :D

Playbahnosh 06-06-2005 11:56 PM

I think we are actually getting to solve things with people posting real good things... :ok:

Just read what I posted before, that should give you a fine idea what to do...
I've geatherd it from different friends who actually DID QUIT!...

Trust me! :ok:

I will help where I can! :D

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:03 PM

OMG, how is your smoking going? any progress? :ok:

Danny252 07-06-2005 04:12 PM

wow, that smiley and its code are getting annoying..
anyway, yes, how is it going? Hope you get over it!

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:14 PM

Somebody should change the smiley to :bugeye: or something :D

Havell 07-06-2005 04:17 PM

just :om g: would do.

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:19 PM

Why not? We should ask admin to do it so that we can actually see o m g instead of OMG

Danny252 07-06-2005 04:19 PM

well you can all go bug tom henrik, as he is online now. okay? ^_^

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:21 PM

okee dokee. I'll ask.

Havell 07-06-2005 04:25 PM

Waaaaaaay ahead of you B)

Danny252 07-06-2005 04:26 PM

way ahead of you :P
I asked when I first mentioned it ^_^
should be changed soon

Havell 07-06-2005 04:28 PM

It's changed now. I beat you. omg :omg:

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:30 PM

finally. I thought i was going to go crazy with that stupid smilie. omg omg omg omg omg! yes!

TheVoid 07-06-2005 04:48 PM

I think this omg smiley thingie has nothing at all to do with the purpose of this thread.

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:49 PM

Okay, back on topic:

How is your smoking addiction going, omg? :bye:

Playbahnosh 07-06-2005 04:50 PM

Um...guys!

Please finish this okay? This topic is about quitting smoking in the first place...
...will surely close this down if more spam occures...
:whistle:

Anyway, how is your smoking going OMG ?

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 04:53 PM

Yes. I just said we should talk about smoking. Here, Playbahnosh. Want a nice cuban cigar? <pufffff...puff>
Ahhhhh....<blows smoke ring>

The problem is that omg isnt here to continue the topic with us. He was here for an hour earlier today, but hes gone now. :cry:

Playbahnosh 07-06-2005 05:26 PM

You made me do it Indi! Feel youself ashamed! :ranting:
(lights a cigarette)
There! I'm smoking again, thanks to you! <_< (Draws a deep draft...keeps it in....exhales) Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhh.... :max: :D
Oh, man what am I talking about, this IS great! :D

EDIT: j/k (It was a joke LOL )

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 05:30 PM

Heeheehee. <pufffff>
So....where were we? Oh, yes. omg. You know <puff> he really has to stop smoking <puff> its very bad for your health to smoke <puff> :D

Playbahnosh 07-06-2005 05:35 PM

Okay Indi, enough of the teasing... This topic is about QUITTING smoking... :ok:

Actually I'd like to hear how OMG progressed with that...

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 05:39 PM

Same here, but he doesn't seem to be here anymore. He's probably too ashamed to tell us how he is irreperably puffing eighty packs a day :D

Danny252 07-06-2005 05:46 PM

and how is that a reason to go off topic, exactly? Stay on topic or dont post.

Indignus IV 07-06-2005 05:48 PM

You love threatening us, dont you Danny?
Just joking. Lets all leave this topic alone until omg comes back. :ok:

PrejudiceSucks 07-06-2005 06:18 PM

Please be quiet. You've been getting less insufferable, don't go back down that road again.

I think that what omg needs isn't jokes about tobacco, it's the clever splicing of two words to make things three times funnier.

omg 07-06-2005 06:20 PM

im smoking again.

PrejudiceSucks 07-06-2005 06:21 PM

ach, that's a shame mate, but fair enough. I probably didn't help too much.

omg 07-06-2005 06:24 PM

no one is to be blamed but myself. im gonna try again tomorrow.

Playbahnosh 07-06-2005 09:28 PM

I'm totally with you Dude! Just make sure you stay away from them deathstraws okay? :ok:

Hell, if you succeed, I'll quit too! :D

Danny252 07-06-2005 09:31 PM

thats just putting it off. then you'll say you'll have 1 more. then 1 more. then wait a week. then 1 more. then when you're so old.

Playbahnosh 07-06-2005 09:38 PM

You wont get off us that easy, huh Danny? :D

I covered that part already... if you didn't read it, check it out HERE

Anyway, I'm really desperate to quit smoking but I'd like to see I'm not the only one here... :ok:

Evad 07-06-2005 10:47 PM

Depack chopra (a self help guru you may have seen on Oprah)says that in order to quit a habit, cold turkey is not necessary. But the next time you light up, be very conscous of everything you do. Constantly ask your self how you feel, what are you getting from every puff and don't let yourself stray from the experience. Don't beat yourself up cause that just gives you stress and causes you to want to give in more feeding the endless cycle of the addiction.. The real trick is to replace your habit with a better one. like everytime you feel the urge, go for a walk, or run off some multiplications in your head or whatever you want. just get it off your mind. its like you know when you try not to think of something, the harder you try the harder it is to not think of it...for example i want everyone reading this to not think of the word I'm about to write. Elephant. I hope you aren't thinking of an elephant as you read this, standing in a pool of water eatting peanuts. instead tell your self "not thinking of an elephant is really not important. Another thing i read once(self hypnosis) went to great lengths describing a study room. Very comfortable and relaxing, except occasionally the phone across the room would ring. and the guy talking would say its ok, you don't hav to answer the phone...the phone can wait. In other words you are not a slave to your environment or to your urges, you just have to try your hardest not to give in, and if you do, examine closley your sences. hope this blather display of trivial guru talk helps ya out a bit. :kosta:

Indignus IV 08-06-2005 01:24 AM

Aaah...omg. Didn't you say you were married? I can't remember. In any case, think about the one you love. How does your second-hand smoke affect her? What does she think of the tobacco smell which starts to sink into your body?
The key to breaking the addiction is to think about something other than YOU and the pleasure YOU are feeling. Imagine the discomfort of others. After getting over that ridge, take the cigar you are undoubtedly smoking at this very moment. Take it from your mouth. Thats right...remove it! Look at it closely. Is this little burning paper stick going to crush you and make you obediant? Of course not! You are stronger than that! Stare hardly at the cigarette, imagine how small and petty it is, and visualize it. Why do you need it? You will forget it after a while. Think about what it is doing inside your body. Sinking into your lungs, destroying the membranes. Causing mouth cancer, lung cancer. Take it...stare at it....and throw it away. Just like that. And resolve never to have one ever again. And an hour from now, when you are thinking "eh, I think I'll just have one more...." remember what you read here. And don't have it. And a couple days from now, when you feel like crap and your sweating and the addiction is killing you, remember what you read here. Remember what you resolved. And find the power within yourself to break through. It doesn't matter. That little stick won't kill me. I can break through this addiction.

Hope it helps! :kosta:

Schabernakel-anbeter 08-06-2005 01:38 AM

Standalone Post
(of Standalone Poster :tai: )

I think the best way to quit is to say Good Bye to all the Good thinks, that
smoking gives you: Relaxation, Satisfaction, Quitness, Hideout, Comtemplatativeness,
sth more ???

That should make you sad, cause you loose sth.

But you say Good bye cause of the bad thinks: Bad Health, Bad Buy(costs),
the addiction and...stuff

So if you find the Good things in your own, you could have the good things,
without the bad things, and this makes you a better person, actually.

So wanting to be better should help.

Most Mistake(In my Opinion): The Wanting to loose sth bad.
This kind of bad is associateed in cigarettes bye the thinker, So if you thing
of the cigarrettes, which you dou, you think about bad things and that you did
bad things. And this weakens your Good Will to stop smoking.

Ive tried this nominee effectually....for a couple of hours now :help: :karate: :pissed:

:smoke: aaaahhhhhh...maybe next time I ll manage it :whistle:

Bye :bye: Bye

VERTICAL PIG 08-06-2005 05:41 AM

When you crave one just think about how you will disapoint everyone here and how we well hate you FOREVER!! jk

good luck! It would really be awesome if you succeed.
you should get a reword for saveing your life.

Indignus IV 08-06-2005 01:49 PM

Yeah, going on that VP was saying....If you start smoking again, you will be insulting us because it will be like you don't respect our advice, or take it seriously. So if you don't want to offend us....stop smoking! :D

PrejudiceSucks 08-06-2005 02:43 PM

Well that's not a very useful answer Indignus. I'm also pretty sure that if it needs doing he wouldn't write something so incredibly offensive that we'd all cry.

I say - if the urge takes you, do it.

You'll only be sad when you see your family/friends/strangers do it. It would be good if we could all stop our habits, I wish I could stop playing PC games, but I can't. I'd just be sat with it in front of me being very, very sad without doing it.

Oh well. We all have our vices. I say - keep them.

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 05:16 PM

Quote:

Oh well. We all have our vices. I say - keep them.
You are hindering all the efforts made here dude! You are not serious are you...

@rest

There are so brilliant ideas here now, I think I shall try and quit from now on...

I'll smoke today my last straw in my life(or at least I think)...
Tomorrow, when I wake up, I wont liit another one!!!

Stay with me okay? I cannot do this alone guys! :unsure:

Havell 08-06-2005 05:30 PM

For what it's worth, I honestly do believe you can do it.
btw, if I were you I'd change my sig to explain to people that you might get pissed off with them over the next few days becuase of quitting smoking.

PrejudiceSucks 08-06-2005 05:37 PM

Hmm ok then.... I'll try and be supportive.

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 06:14 PM

Thanks for the support guys! I REALLY aprechiate it! :ok:

I already modded my sig to warn everybody 1Km near me :D

I will smoke one of every kind of my cigarettes tonight, Marlboro, Rothmans, More, Sopianae...

BUt tomorrow, I'll begin my long and painful journey down the quitting road!

I'll report in every day to assure you of my progress...

I think I finally make some use of this topic... :D

I HAVE THE POWER! (puff...puff)

Tulac 08-06-2005 06:17 PM

Good luck!

Indignus IV 08-06-2005 06:21 PM

I've braced myself, Playbahnosh! Just get it all out and it will be over soon enough. We won't think none the worse of you. We all support you and omg. :bye:

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 06:26 PM

Thanks all, really... :kosta:

But I owe you a fair warning :unsure:
During this period, I'm very much likely to freak out with no apparent reason, or break down and cry... :unsure:
I'm also likely to whine about my miserable life and love life here as whell, and I'd likely to get banned for this... :unsure:

I don't swear anything becouse I will only break it, so I just say... bare with me...
Please... :unsure:

Thank you!

Doc Adrian 08-06-2005 06:35 PM

Goodluck Friend, we're with you all the way!


omg 08-06-2005 09:38 PM

im going to quit again 2 morrow, so im with ya. LOL quitters blog.

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 09:52 PM

Quitters blog!

We can do it omg! I know it! :ok:
Just make it clear and honest okay? No cheating... :sneaky:

Hwehe! LOL

omg 08-06-2005 09:53 PM

i wouldnt dream of it old chap. now where did i put the lighter....

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by omg@Jun 8 2005, 10:53 PM
i wouldnt dream of it old chap. now where did i put the lighter....
Now you ruined my chance of quitting, thank yo very much :not_ok: ... where is that box godd :whistle: it...

Seriously, you ARE gonna start quitting tomorrow, do you? :blink:

omg 08-06-2005 10:01 PM

it is gonna hafta be that way. i already quit and failed. time to do it an succeed.

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by omg@Jun 8 2005, 11:01 PM
it is gonna hafta be that way. i already quit and failed. time to do it an succeed.
That's the spirit dude!! :ok:
Remember, we have to keep the soul in each other during this... :unsure:

WE CAN DO IT! I KNOW!!!

I failed once too, this is hafta gogo!!!

Evad 08-06-2005 10:29 PM

Here's a suggestion. Every time you light up a cigarette, imagine in your mind as you inhale the smoke how much your chances of getting some kind of nasty disease increases. Think about how the quick pay-off will cripple you in the long run. Although I agree that whats his name was a little insensitive, he brought up a rather good suggestion; rent some videos of people with cancer(if any exist) and burn their desparate sad and worried faces into your mind, so that whenever you think about smoking you will think of them. Read up on the scientific journals about the harmful effects of smoking. If you just know it is bad, then you can push that aside, but if you fill your mind with all the details of the effects it will be hard for your mind to logically let you smoke I believe.look at it like this....if you don't smoke for the next 3 months it will be hell, but you'll grow, heal and if you stay clear of any buses you'll live a long life. If however you sell out and take a puff, you will feed that little demon in your head, continue being your habit's little bitch and probably get cancer and use a breathing machine for the last 10 miserable years of your short life. You will always be addicted to cigarettes, and you can NEVER ever smoke again.
If you are serious about quiting you must burn(and not inhale) all your smoking paraphanillia. I pray for God's strength to fill you with the power to take control of your health and life. amen :whistle:

sorry got a little carried away there.

Playbahnosh 08-06-2005 10:34 PM

um...thanks for this rather...interesting( :sick: ) suggestion... :max:
I'll put it to good use! :ok:

Evad 08-06-2005 10:53 PM

When I think of smoking I immediately think of a lady that was touring the schools around my area. She had so much energy, I never saw her in person, just on our local broadcasting network. She showed pictures of herself before the kemo-therapy and she was drop dead gorgeous. beautiful eyes full of life, a smile that would light up any room. Also some of the pictures had her with her daughter, they looked very happy.
While watching her lecture to all the high schooler's, with her skeletol apperance and pale white skin, wereing a hat to cover her bald head all I could see from her was desparation.
I remember her looking at one of the girls in the audiance, and saying she didn't know how much time she had left and that she could very well drop dead right there. The girl went right into tears, and the lady went over to her and looked her right in the eyes and made her promise to never start smoking. They hugged after that. The doctors were blown away that she could even function properly, they suspected the high amounts of radiation had killed the pain receptors in her brain and that was the only thing keeping her out of bed. She died last year, God knows how many lives she saved. We all think it won't happen to us. Our health is so vitally important, and we don't realize it till it is gone. Don't waste you life away on a useless craving that can be controlled.
Her name was Barb Tarbox. I suggest you look her up on the internet and read her message any people who are trying to quit.
Good luck in your quest for freedom.

Evad 08-06-2005 11:05 PM

I was tired of editing that one so here's a new one, with the links to some 30 second ad compains she did for cbc I think. This is the woman I was talking about.

http://tobacco.aadac.com/media_campaigns/barb_tarbox/

Indignus IV 09-06-2005 12:50 AM

Wow. We need someone like her over at our schools. Everybody smokes (but me) at the high schools over here. Its very sad. :cry:

Evad 09-06-2005 07:23 AM

Yeah, she was an exceptional woman, and it goes to show how the tabacco industry is robbing us of really great and wonderful people every day. I'm guilty of the occasional smoke when I'm drinking, but I've never been addicted to tabacco, probably cause I'm cheap LOL. I understand the chemical addiction is so powerful, but I just can't help but keep begging you all to stop smoking. You understand of course that the people who developed those smokes for you knew a long time ago that they were killing you guys, and kept on going masking their products harmful effects just to make money. Doesn't that piss you off? People are not only robbing you of your money, but they are also robbing you of your life..

Danny252 09-06-2005 07:33 AM

Tabacco is the only legal product that, even when used correctly, harms the user.
Also, tabacco companies are trying to get new users all the time. why? They kill off their old users.

Playbahnosh 09-06-2005 09:06 AM

The original, indian tobacco in the 1400-1500's was free of chemicals and other stuff. The cigar only consisted of a dryed tobacco leaf and some coconut substance to keep it together... No tar, no paper, no active-coal, no nothing... Furthermore, cigar in those times were very expensive and only the richest could buy them. They was only smoking it at celebrations and such and never got addicted... And that cigar in low quantities didn't caused cancer and such either... <_<

But now, it is a daily habit for almost 1/3 of earth's population in some form... :sick:

I have another thing here: My friend work in a paper mill, and he is very proficient in the paper industry. He said that the cigarette paper is no ordenary paper. It contains calcium and nitrogen fosfat(If I recall correctly) for a slow but continuous burn of the cigarette. Some more chemicals to poison you even further... <_<


Danny252 09-06-2005 09:33 AM

I also read somehwere they are meant to contain rocket fuel and plutonium. but thats not completely believable..

Tulac 09-06-2005 12:07 PM

Heroine is the most addictive supstance on the world, Nicotine is second...

Indignus IV 09-06-2005 01:20 PM

Nah, my health teacher told us it was nicotine. Did you know that caffeine is the 23d most addictive substance or something? Heroin is further down the list.

Play, keep us posted on your progress. It looks like you are very determined to stop! :ok:

omg 09-06-2005 01:41 PM

i think the difference is when you quit heroin you can go down the pub and not have to see people jacking it. i have heard scientists on tv saying heroin is harder to quit short term, well duh but nicotine in the long term is harder.

Doubler 09-06-2005 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Indignus IV@Jun 9 2005, 01:20 PM
Did you know that caffeine is the 23d most addictive substance or something?
I know. Pretty much everyone over here in the Netherlands is utterly addicted to the stuff :(
Good thing I hate the stuff :D

About smoking. Many people around here do it, however I have the feeling people (or the people I know) put more thought into it then a few years ago. Most of them either decided to quit or decided to keep on doing it.
At least that's an improvement.

And to OMG and everyone else trying to quit smoking; I whish you the best of luck! Hope you enjoy the fresh air :ok:

Havell 09-06-2005 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tulac@Jun 9 2005, 01:07 PM
Heroine is the most addictive supstance on the world, Nicotine is second...
You take Heroin in very small amounts but the purity is high, pure nicotine may be very addictive but the actual quantity of nicotine in cigarettes is very low indeed. Also, the addiction to nicotine is all mental while you can become physically addicted to heroin and other hard drugs (so your body craves it as well as the mind), this is why all drugs are dangerous but hard drugs are more dangerous than softer ones (such as tobbaco).

Playbahnosh 09-06-2005 05:07 PM

I know it's redicoulos for the first day, but I'm sweating like a sponge... <_<
And not becouse the temperature...
I can't get the smoking out of my mind, it haunts me...

I didn't lit one singel cig today, so I guess I'm making progress :unsure:


PrejudiceSucks 09-06-2005 05:48 PM

Good, that's an excellent start.

Herion is very, very addictive stuff, but that's really because of the brain's reception to it more than anything else.

Nicotine is very addictive too.

By the way, does anybody know anywhere else out of the UK and South Africa where Cocodomol (that's bad spelling, but I'm not sure of its real name) is allowed to be taken in headache pills without prescription?

omg 10-06-2005 03:55 PM

i know you cant even get it in eastern europe without a prescription. which is a shame...
and the dose of codine in the uk is pretty small in the non prescittion stuff.
ahh well im failing miserably on quittin the fags, however i have only got enought baccy 4 maybe 4 ciggeretes and the womens hidden my plastic so i cant actually buy anymore. why cant you buy willpower in a pill form?

Indignus IV 10-06-2005 04:21 PM

Play: great job for your first day! Never, never give up. If you come all this way and start smoking again, than stop, and than start again, you'll only suffer more. Just get it over with. Mind over matter! :ok:

omg, whats up with your smoking?

omg 10-06-2005 04:33 PM

look kid, whats up with my smoking,, i have been a daily smoker scince i was 15 and had my first puff age 11. i have addictive personality syndrome to the point where i can get physicall cravings for stupid things, let alone addictive substances. im not going to start going deep into myself cuz we all have our problems but i am going to state one thing to you now so you can get the idea.
stop posting on this thread. i stated i wanted to hear from ADULTS and people who have some experiance ie: years, and so far i mainly have been. but you keep butting in on this thread when you really have absalutly nothing to say, and your tone of typing comes across as really sneery. please dont post on this thread again. if i am blogging my quitting and i fail im not going to lie about it, because i am determned to quit, and talking with people who are also trying to quit was helping. however coming back to find
regular sneery posts by a kid with negligeable life experiance is antagonising me.

Playbahnosh 10-06-2005 06:28 PM

Whoa dude, calm down! :huh:

OMG, we are not all sneery teenagers teasing you about the smoke, and we are definetly NOT YOUR ENEMIES!!! <_<

Look :omg: , you opened this topic to get help for your quitting,and this IS a brave thing indeed. Not many people can admit he needs the help of others to quit becoude they think this is a weekness. Quite the oppisite! This is very good point...
You have chosen the best forum for this... Trust me, I've been in a few, and this forum is not full of arrogant fools and smartass geeks who know everything better, like the rest of the communities I've joined earlier....
You had your trust in us like this, to ask help in your quitting crusade, and here we are, trying to help you. Indi is trying to help you too, in his wierd meaning, get over it, he is only a kid but a good kid, he wants to help you just like us... :ok:
After all this is a games forum, whaddya expect, but youngsters here in the first place :tomato:
Look, I'm 19 years old, and in some countries even I still count as a kid too, but I joined you becouse I have faith in, that WE can actually do it, get it? :ok:
No you, not I, WE!
I havent smoked for 2 days now, and I'm feeling very weary already, but I'm doing this becouse I thought you are the other side doing just this... ;)
Don't give it up like this, this is not the OMG I got to know... :unsure:
Read the topic over again, and you'll realise tha we are WITH you not AGAINST you... :ok:
Don't take Indi too serously, and we'll all be fine...
Give this another try okay? Don't leave me here just like this...

omg 10-06-2005 08:28 PM

I wasnt dissing you at all mate. just indiginous. and if you think he is a good kid you clearly havnt been reading a lot of his posts, or heard about the psychotic pms he was sending prejudice_sucks.
im not saying no one under the age of 21 is to post on this thread, but his posts have been really winding me up. people are welcome to talk about whatever aspects of it, but his posts have been pointless and sneery. i dont have any beef with anyone on this site, but him, dont misunderstand me, its cool you are posting here, and you are an actual smoker so i apreciate it greatly. and non smokers giving helpfull messages is cool, but he doesnt give helpfull messages, just annoying ones.

Danny252 10-06-2005 08:41 PM

Ill make sure he has none of them from now on.
so, hows it going omg?

Evad 10-06-2005 11:23 PM

A new friend is always better then an old enemy.
Also, I hope you are keeping track of your quitting smoking in a journal. This will help big time man. Every time you feel like smoking, open it up and vent and describe in free form exactly what you are feeling. Every few weeks go over it and you will see your progress. Also another thing you could do is make a jar, and every time you fight the urge successfully put a certain ammount of money in it. Make a goal for yourself like say 2 weeks, and if you make it buy yourself something you want and reward yourself. What to do if you give in??? donate it all to charity:)

omg 10-06-2005 11:32 PM

sounds like a good idea. may well try the journal, im certainly going to start a daily post here to let playbanbosh know he aint alone. just smoked my last cigar, and the women has my wallet and will be out of the house all day tommorow, so hopefully i wont have a freind come round, as from tommorow i am going to be the only nonsmoker i know. (excepting the wife)

win98 10-06-2005 11:41 PM

this might sound crazy but my dad smoked for 20 years when he found out it was bad for him he tried to stop 9 times than the tenth time he manged to by making me yell at him and take his cigiretts everytime he went and bought some if he felt he really needed to have a cigerte he seemed to have two sides when not thinking about ciggerets he was not crazy but every tie he thought about them he went crazy and ran to the car while the other side of his self grabbed me when i was home to srop him buying them by chating to him while in the car heading to the dairy in the end we get to the dairy and he forgets what we need to buy so i said we need bread and we buy some not the incerdint with grabbing me only happend once and for some reason he never touched a ciggerete again

win98 10-06-2005 11:47 PM

whoa nice going omg my dad took 10 years to quit once a year he tried it was a newyears resilution and he did it march this year he usally gave up quitting round march those other nine years and said to me my mum and my little sister i will try again next year

Naughty double poster. Tut Tut.

Dino 11-06-2005 12:06 AM

Omg, It probably won't be easy to stop smoking, but if your will outpowers your need, you'll make it! :ok:

Oh, yes, I know it's :ot: , but win98, could you please try to use some interpunction in your posts, they are slightly hard to understand.

win98 11-06-2005 12:41 AM

so i guess OvErLoRd is having a crack at me i mean some people don't post easy to understand posts as well is me

Dino 11-06-2005 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by win98@Jun 11 2005, 01:41 AM
so i guess OvErLoRd is having a crack at me i mean some people don't post easy to understand posts as well is me
Let's not turn this into discussion and ruin the topic, too many topics got closed that way.
Win98, I just asked you politely and gave you an advice, yours is to disapprove my remark if you wish.

And now, back to those smoking problems!

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 12:55 AM

Erm....guys? I just read through the last couple pages of this topic. I don't like the way you thrust out Indignus. He didn't do anything truly wrong. Allow him back in, he was only trying to help you with smoking. Sure, he's a little weird, but aren't we all a little weird? :D
And yes, omg, I saw the atrocious things he did to Prejudicesucks. I've been here a lot longer than some of you think. I still think he is only a poor guy looking for some attention. You should treat him nicer.

Thats all I have to say.

Playbahnosh, omg, Good Luck on your smoking habits! :ok:

Evad 11-06-2005 01:32 AM

I was gonna say something too but decieded to stay outta it. Seeing as the cats outta the bag however, if you look at the last post by "you know who", he really seemed to be helpful and supportive, and the last sentence in the post was him asking about your condition omg, not him poking at you. Try something, you have an impression of the guy, get rid of it and try and read his next few posts objectivly. If he is a kid you have to understand he thinks he knows what he is talking about and is just trying to put his two cents in. Ingenious(i think that's your name). I think you have to aknowledge the fact that you know you offended some people here, say your sorry, and promise to alter your behaviour. Even if you have chosen to do this, I have not read anything public from you stating it so don't expect anyone to read your mind and forgive you. That's my two cents. peace out.

win98 11-06-2005 01:48 AM

omg evad has a point :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Evad 11-06-2005 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by omg@Jun 10 2005, 05:32 PM
sounds like a good idea. may well try the journal, im certainly going to start a daily post here to let playbanbosh know he aint alone. just smoked my last cigar, and the women has my wallet and will be out of the house all day tommorow, so hopefully i wont have a freind come round, as from tommorow i am going to be the only nonsmoker i know. (excepting the wife)
I highly suggest the reward/punish program as well omg. The basic way we humans work is to seek pleasure, and to avoid pain. In your mind you have associated cigarettes to pleasure and no cigarettes to pain. In fact it is the opposite as we all know. By rewarding yourself for not smoking, and punishing yourself for giving in, you will start to change your belief structure. The only thing is, it is based on honesty. Really if you look at it, the fact that you know you can controll your mind and your urges and your habits will be reward enough. Someone in here mentioned earlier that habits and selfcontrol are related to self esteem, and this is so true. I have a book somewhere(that I still haven't completed), that goes into this. When you exersice self control you feel enpowered, and when you give in your selfesteem drops 'cause you feel out of control. Humans need to feel they are in control. When people are in plane crashes some panic. I read a story about two fighter pilots that ejected from a jet, and got separated. One landed, made a fire, melted some snow for water, ate some of his rations(very important as stress and anxiety effext motabolism) made a signal fire, and then prepaired to wait for rescue. The other guy? He froze to death, still in his parachute in a tree. The guy could have released the harness, he had all the same supplies, they were in exactly the same environment. The only difference between the two is the "survivor" knew he was in control, and the dead guy....well. I think this story illustrates my point. You have to exercise your will power, you have to not be lazy and fall into your urges, you have to question all your thoughts especially when you are in your craving stage. I know this doesn't have to do with just pshycology and that there is an intense physical addiction too, but just remember that your mind will always control your body.
Sorry that I'm posting so much in here, I just grew up around a lot of people addicted to a lot of things, and I can really feel your pain if you are trying to quit anything you think is harmfull to yourselves. I wish you great strength and luck.

Evad 11-06-2005 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by win98@Jun 10 2005, 07:48 PM
omg evad has a point :ok: :ok: :ok: :ok: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
:) I always have a point, just sometimes it's unfortunately incorrect...:))

win98 11-06-2005 03:12 AM

HOW YA GOING WITH NOT SMOKING OMG

win98 11-06-2005 04:26 AM

well i guess omg isn't logged on at da moment

Tell me, whats the point of this message? Especially as its a double one.

A. J. Raffles 11-06-2005 06:24 AM

Sorry to be off-topic yet again, but win98, could you please stop double-posting? There is a reason why you can edit your posts, you know... :whistle:

As for the whole seeking pleasure/avoiding pain thing, evad, that sounds a bit like a simpler version of Epicure to me.:) But wouldn't that be more or less saying that the smoker himself is incapable of making a deliberate decision to stop? To be honest, I'd like to believe that's not true...

omg 11-06-2005 11:15 AM

smoking update: i havnt had a smoke yet. tension starting to build though.

Doc Adrian 11-06-2005 11:21 AM

A big bag of candy or a pack of gum used to help me...glad to hear your hanging in there :)

omg 11-06-2005 11:24 AM

unfortunantly the wifey has got my banc card so i cant succumb and go buy ciggeretes. this also means i cant go buy sweets either.... ive only been awake 2 hours and this craving is getting nasty. i reckon by tonight im gonna be in full killing people mood.

Evad 11-06-2005 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by A. J. Raffles@Jun 11 2005, 12:24 AM
Sorry to be off-topic yet again, but win98, could you please stop double-posting? There is a reason why you can edit your posts, you know... :whistle:

As for the whole seeking pleasure/avoiding pain thing, evad, that sounds a bit like a simpler version of Epicure to me.:) But wouldn't that be more or less saying that the smoker himself is incapable of making a deliberate decision to stop? To be honest, I'd like to believe that's not true...

Well it was a basic generalization, and those can be dangerous, but I personally believe it is true. I don't mean to say that anyone starts smoking thinking it is good for you(at least not anymore) but after a while a fog is created, and the benificial effects mask the serious and dangerous consiquences of this habit.. The point is it IS possible to make the choice, but you have to change your patterns. Habits like this don't start over night and they don't break over night either. I don't mean to say we can't chose, sometimes there is no choice but pain; life can throw us a curve ball or two. But when it comes to smoking there is a choice, but it's not an easy one, and in order for succsess you have to either be at that magic moment when you have just plain had enough and just quit(I hope you guys are lucky enough to get this) or you have to be scientific and decipher your thought processes and restructure them. I think of the human mind like a computer, and as our concious mind as a programmer. Garbage in garbage out.

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 01:41 PM

Wow. Evad, are you a psychologist in real life? :D
Really good advice, there.
omg (and everyone else who smokes),
even though it sounds like a bad way to go(I have never tried it, not smoking myself), you should try the "slowly cut down thing"
Have your wife watch over you and help you. Set a goal say, 20 cigarettes a day (I dont know how much you have a day). Have 20 cigs a day for two days. Then go down one. Have 19 cigs for 3 DAYS. Then have 18 cigs for 4 DAYS. Then 17 for 5 DAYS. This way, you very slowly go down, minimizing the pain and suffering induced by the cravings. It will take 230 days, according to my calculations, but this way you reverting back to smoking is almost impossible. Your body is given just a lliiiiiiiittle bit less each day until you don't need it at all. Just an idea, hope it helps! :ok:

omg 11-06-2005 01:52 PM

tried it. it doesnt work. as people wiser than i have already said on this thread all you do with that technique is prolong your agony, however im so desperate for a *** right now im tempted to go buy some baccy and ration it out, just 10 a day would be cool, i have gone through stages of smoking a lot more than that, the other week i was smoking up to 30 + a day, this week has been a drastic reduction, i quit for a day then smoke, quit for a day then smoke, quit for half a day then smoke ect. hopefully im going to get the knack of this soon.

TheVoid 11-06-2005 01:53 PM

I think that he wants to stop the habit way before 230 days... :blink:
I could do it in a week, but he's been smoking longer than me (10 years vs. 4 years)....with some mathematical proportions, he could make it in bit more than 2 weeks, with a lot of willpower and the support of friends and relatives. Not to mention the whole Abandonia community.

Btw, omg, just for curiosity: what cigs do/ did you use to smoke?

omg 11-06-2005 02:00 PM

i used to smoke samson tobacco. the finest dutch rolling tobacco knowen to man. used to roll other things with it to... scince i stopped using the additives i started smoking 3 times as many unadultared roll ups, which led to the aforementioned very nasty lung pains.
i have to quit this sh*t. im sitting here staring at some money i just found. i dont know how long im gonna hold out, im trying to focus on the pain in my chest as a reosen not to go buy.
i ask again, why isnt will power available in pill form!!!!

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 02:00 PM

Sorry. I havent read all 12 pages of this topic, you know. I thought omg's goal was to STOP SMOKING no matter what, whether it took 230 days or 23. Sorry if I screwed up your topic. :bye:

TheVoid 11-06-2005 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oogaboogadoogaman@Jun 11 2005, 03:00 PM
Sorry. I havent read all 12 pages of this topic, you know. I thought omg's goal was to STOP SMOKING no matter what, whether it took 230 days or 23. Sorry if I screwed up your topic. :bye:
Hey you didn't do any harm, you just suggested a method. That's up to omg wether to follow it or not.

Back when I used to smoke a lot I also used to have serious pain in the chest, together with spitting some brown-greyish substance right from my lungs. It's simply another way of breathing when you haven't been smoking for a while, heck it's almost a pleasure just to breathe, whilst it used to be a pain during smoke time (expecially after a run or a long walk).

omg 11-06-2005 02:04 PM

no problem oogabooga , your method is valid, but haste is the name of the game due to
the lung pains. i cougth up as much crap as this old lady did at an old peoples home i was working at years ago. and she died from a bloodclot in her lung. i get these sharp chest pains. i have to quit, i should have quit 5years ago.

as for the spit, i have over the years cougthed up quite an impressive array of substances. back when i was a teenaged bucket freak i cougthed up black tar and blood, quit the buckets but went on smoking, green stuff, yellow stuff, dark brown stuff, been a long while scince i cougthed up any black though, been a long time scince i coughted up blood, but when i cougth i can taste blood. hell im probably 2 far gone,
may as well go on smoking, doubt if it will make a difference really.

TheVoid 11-06-2005 02:17 PM

Maybe we should just keep you hooked to Abandonia, you can't go buy cigarettes if you're reading the forum.

You could try to play a game and forget about tobacco for a while, something that keeps your hands busy.

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 02:20 PM

No way, man! If you stop smoking now, your lungs will gradually heal themselves and your cancer risk will go down.
I'm really feel for you; it must be painful having to cough up that stuff. Smoking is one of man's worst inventions.
However, here is a tip: you want to stop smoking early, not in 230 days. But if you just stop right now, your body will be deprived of nicotine and it will give you hell for the next couple weeks. There is a huge chance that you will start smoking again. But if you do the 230 day plan you will almost definitely stop smoking, and trust me, you arent gonna die in 230 days.

To quote the fifth element:
"Time is not important, only life is important"

Take whatever time you need if you can stop smoking in that time.

Stay strong! :cheers:

omg 11-06-2005 02:22 PM

:cry: @the _void: i tried. just annoyed me. i have been working on a game using game maker, 2 day it is just annoying me. i tried watching some t.v annoying. and i couldnt sit through any of my mpegs without being annoyed (admittedly i have watched em all, needs to get back to tha donkey :whistle: ) cant go to see anyone i know becuse they will be smoking. my family members who dont smoke live a long way away and have annoying children. it looks like im in for it today, theres this little deomen telling me to go buy ciggeretes so i can get back into my gmlscripting for gamemaker and do something productive today. but i refuse to listen to it. i have to have some bloody willpower!!

i have to admit the 230 day plan is looking more tempting becuse it means i could go have a ***. however these lung pains are bad. a mate of mine has had a collopsed lung and my pains remind him of his the day before his lung collapsed. i have had a lot of people (some of whom smokers!!) telling me to quit over the past couple of years. and i have had my doctor on at me for a lot longer than that.

i need a ***!!!!!!

TheVoid 11-06-2005 02:27 PM

I'm being a bit off topic, but I remember Samson to be not that great....I used to like Golden Virginia and Old Holbourne alot more. But nothing beats pure O2, that's the best stuff you can ever fill your lungs with.

You could also listen to some music to relax, or play an instrument if you got one....that way you'd be a bit carried away from the tobacco problem.

Edit: and my humble opinion is that you should try with all your force not to smoke any further filthy, smelly and poisonous cigarette.

omg 11-06-2005 02:32 PM

here is a problem with that theory

1: i am now alergic to music (long story involving bad acid)
2: even if i could pick my guitar up and play it, at the end of a thrash i would always have a smoke to celebrate.
3: games - at the end of a level i would have a ***

cheers tho dude, typing to you is keepin me occupied. all of the other activities have smoking a *** kind of etched into them, but not the forum, i guess because unlike when im coding , playing, or gaming, i havnt used them as a reward for say typing a long post.

i need a ***!!!!!

win98 11-06-2005 08:14 PM

this might sound weird but i'm behind omg all the way so he can stop smoking

Evad 11-06-2005 09:19 PM

I think OBGman's suggestion is brilliant, and you can always alter the formula to suit your timeframe. You have it in your mind now that you want to quit smokeing, you know it is bad, but the only thing holding you back is withdrawl. You doctor has surely suggested ways to nurse you off nicotine..do you have any support groups in your area where you can meet other people to form your own personal support group. I know that in AA one of the first things you do is get a sponser, a person you cn go for coffee with and talk to and get advise from. These forums are kinda like that, but it's better in real p[erson I'd say.

ps. No I'm not a phsycologist but I study it profusely, and still undecided but considering going to college for it.

win98 11-06-2005 09:36 PM

Evad's right

Playbahnosh 11-06-2005 09:42 PM

:omg: OMG!! What the f :whistle: has happened here? :huh:
Like a tornado busted through! :huh:
I'm offline for one single day and Indi get banned, flame wars happend, tons of new topics started... Jeeeeez :blink:
You people just can't get along... :(

Update: Sorry, guys I'm failed all of ya! :cry: I did smoke one... :unsure:
It is becouse this freaking machine of devil himself! :ranting:
Two days ago my PC gone haywire, started asking for the XP CD all time, and sometimes it won't boot. Then I got my new 200G HDD, and this sh :whistle: wont recognize it! I had to reinstall the whole freakin system, alll the freakin programs and all. All my options are lost, and I'm still working on restoring this piece of ....
um...
I got carried away there...sorry :unsure:
So I did smoke one single straw last day, but not more... I didn't smoke since then, if that counts... :unsure:
I'm sorry, I let ya down OMG... I won't do it again okay? :ok:
And soory all... really... :unsure:

About Indi... Why did you banned him? He is just a kid for god's sake, he didn't done anything that is freakin from a kid of his age... :huh:
Come on people, we have to accept each others freaky things... fighting forever take us to nowere man! Please be a bit more understanding towards each other okay? :ok:

win98 11-06-2005 10:23 PM

i go off line for 5 hours and the indy guys band tones of irrevlivent topics are started and tonnes of new users register all i did is go to:zzzzz: on saturday night.
(new zealand time since i live there)
i understand the new users bit behind ther rest what the blimin heck is up here

Playbahnosh 11-06-2005 10:27 PM

Dude, you really should use dots or other marks, it is difficult to read your posts :huh:

Dino 11-06-2005 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Playbahnosh@Jun 11 2005, 11:27 PM
Dude, you really should use dots or other marks, it is difficult to read your posts :huh:
That's what I suggested too, but was ignored.

win98 11-06-2005 10:43 PM

okay i wll

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 10:48 PM

Guys, from what I can gather, Indignus has done some bad stuff, but he is sincerely trying to stop. omg, you were too harsh on him the other. Sure, he did bad stuff, but he's gotten better since then. Put the past behind you.

Anyway, I don't want to get this topic locked so,

omg, I'm a little disoriented as to events. What have you decided to do? Will you take my 230 day plan? Its slow, I know, but I think it has a good chance of working. :ok:

Oogaboogadoogaman 11-06-2005 11:12 PM

Erm...Win98? Why do you keep acting as though admin will do anything you say?

Whatever.

Guys: maybe drinking coffee will help quit smoking (don't know if this was said already)

win98 12-06-2005 01:22 AM

How ya going with not smoking

omg 12-06-2005 12:18 PM

about indi. i dont care. he started again. arrogence is the biggest evil of this world and he is arrogent. nuff said. about the smoking. i understand you succumbed playbanbosh, oogabooga man is right. people who just go cold turkey and quit start smoking start again 80 percent of the time. people who gradually build up 2 it have a greater chance of staying off of it.i als succumbed yesterday. i went out and bought some light tobacco . i made this game in game maker and it would work one time, not work the next ect. i was occupying myself chatting on here but then it went through a dead phase. so i went back to my game. i have to convert all the variables into code to make the dam thing stable, not something i can do in the grip of nicotine withdrawel. all my freinds smoke also. scince i quit other things i get given a wide berth. so i just got to annoyed, it got to the point where it was getting to much. i logged on again to see if anyone cool was here to chat to and i found out the english gentlemens club had been shut down.
i went out an bought some light tobacco :cry:
however i only smoked two thin roll ups.
considering it wasnt that long ago i was smoking 30+ roll ups a day not so long ago i dont feel to bad. im still quitting, just im gonna try smoking a very low amount of low tar fags for a while.

win98 12-06-2005 09:41 PM

go omg

Playbahnosh 12-06-2005 10:02 PM

I'm concerned about this Indi kid. I'll go talk with his head for a change, maybe I can do some good... <_<
For the smoke: I feel with ya omg, Just stay with me, and we will do it for a change okay? I'm craving like hell now, and I'm g'dam annoyed just about everything, but I'm holding out for now... :ok:

Just keep the ideas coming guys, me and omg need the support ya know :ok:

Playbahnosh 15-06-2005 11:01 PM

Sorry for the double post, I had to do it...

I'm having some strange coughing attacks for three weeks now :huh:
It is much longet ot be common cold or flu, its no like that...
I'm having these attacks...like... one in every two hour....
First I just start to cough like hell, and I feel I'm gonna choke to death right there, and the next second, it is gone :huh:

What can this be?

Tulac 15-06-2005 11:04 PM

Maybe your system is cleaning out?

Playbahnosh 15-06-2005 11:13 PM

Tulac, I said for three weeks now. I only started to quit..well...two days ago (again :unsure: ). So it can't be. And nothing is coming up...
If my system clears out, nasty things should come up from my lounge, that I don't want to share with ya, you don't want to know! I had that phaze on my last quitting conquest and it was nasty.

My doctor said two week ago, it is probably some cold, or flu-like disease, but I don't this that last this long... :huh:

omg 15-06-2005 11:57 PM

dont let yourself think its anything bad though. positive thought can help illness a lot more than medication.

Shunk Eat Enemy 16-06-2005 12:17 AM

i absolutly enjoy GTA's San Andreas solution to smoking it was on the radio a politian wanted to start bountys on smokers saying you could :Titan: / :sniper: them it was so funny BUT WRONG no matter how much id enjoy it but really its worse then drugs drugs kill ya faster but these cigs take to long so its like drinking a soda people just do it what i say is finish what you start no matter how :wall: it is. my parents smoke so well its alot of an annoyance for me

Quote:

''i go off line for 5 hours and the indy guys band tones of irrevlivent topics are started and tonnes of new users register all i did is go to:zzzzz: on saturday night.''
dont know who he is but did any1 find out his password that didnt like him

omg 16-06-2005 12:31 AM

that indy guy is indiginous IV. and no one has his password. cuz he is still here.
as for the quitting i keep messing up though, is well annoying, im trying the plan oogabooga man suggested to cut down gradually andi have made the transition onto low tar rolling tobacco but then i have a drink and end up smoking more than my daily allowence. i really need something like one of those ciggerete boxes in fith element.

Shunk Eat Enemy 16-06-2005 01:36 AM

omg has said lots of his freinds smoke and waht not same thing here ill never smoke or anything nuff said but most of my freinds do smoke cigs/drugs some drink and before i go to there house or anything i tell them to keep there crap away from me or ill leave or tell them not to do it arround me.they do respect my wishes :). i tell them how also how ignorant there being to cuz they gotta steal cigs from there bro and stuff i always try to be the good side like lead them in the right direction but it never helps though... :ok: good job to everyone wanting and trying to quit

Evad 16-06-2005 04:42 AM

Hey guys, good to hear you're still trying, keep up the fight. :ok:

Playbahnosh 16-06-2005 05:19 PM

Yeah, trying... :unsure:
Maybe next time :D

Shunk Eat Enemy 07-07-2005 01:35 AM

is there any updates on whats happened

omg 07-07-2005 01:38 AM

i failed miserably. however i have just started again. 3 hours without a smoke and counting.

Shunk Eat Enemy 07-07-2005 01:40 AM

that doesnt count LOL
or maybe it does im not a smoker so i wouldn't know :bleh:

omg 07-07-2005 01:42 AM

its a start. give me a few more hours and i will be ready to kill people. oh the joys of nicotine withdrawel! :D

Playbahnosh 07-07-2005 01:43 AM

I have to start over again. But I'm serious this time. I PROMISED my girlfriend, and I always do what I promise.
Help? :(

Microprose Veteran 07-07-2005 01:43 AM

Ever tried accupuncture? Nowadays it is more and more regarded as an additional way of curing, not as an alternative way. Here in The Netherlands at least it's even covered by health insurance policies.

But then again I'm not a smoker either.

omg 07-07-2005 01:44 AM

i fear needles.

Shunk Eat Enemy 07-07-2005 01:47 AM

i recently saw a show on addictions it had gaming addictions 6 to 8 hours because the kid was so antisocial sorta so they had a conferance the whole family and they all told him nicely what they thought and wanted him to go to a 43 day gameless program (camping in the woods with other gamers) to help him be more social and the only reason he went is his girlfreind threatened to tie all contact with him off and it worked he still play games so Playbanosh maybe if your girlfreind might bring that up as a idea it might work its crude but it could work

fear eh that could make a good topic

Microprose Veteran 07-07-2005 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by omg@Jul 7 2005, 01:44 AM
i fear needles.
No need for that. The needles are so tiny you don't even feel them. They're not as crude as, say, syringes you know.

LOL, Shunk's post reminded me of something I read on some C=64 gamesite about a gamer who was addicted (at the time, late 80s) to Microprose's Gunship: his girlfriend told him it was either her or the damn chopper game. Needless to say, he chose Gunship.

Playbahnosh 07-07-2005 01:49 AM

so am I. I will agree to patches or gums, but not needles. Anyway, I'll try to smoke less now and totally quit be the next weekend. I hope it works.

Shunk Eat Enemy 20-07-2005 05:43 PM

yay omg is trying again :D
feel free to unlease your anger of the withdrawal here and how you feel

omg 20-07-2005 06:12 PM

2 days so far and im feeling nasty. but i know its just one more day and im past the physicall withdrawell. the tougth thing is going to be staying quit. once you have quit all it takes is one *** and you have to go through another three days withdrawel! so im going to be staying the hell away from pubs untill im well past it.
will post again 2 morrow.
i know im going to do it this time.
now i have to learn how to make brownies.

PrejudiceSucks 20-07-2005 06:55 PM

Learn to code IF. There are two manuals, a real one (500+ pages) and a mere beginner's manual (only 350+ pages :P).

It takes time but is pretty rewarding.

Danny252 20-07-2005 07:24 PM

wow, lucky guy, up there with the gaming addiction. HE had a girlfriend.. some of us addicts have a much worse time..
but I have recently discovered the social life.. dammit, why does that girl keep following me and my friend around? wait... that be a GOOD thing.. ooh..

PrejudiceSucks 20-07-2005 08:01 PM

Such is puberty, Danny.

Jimbo the Legend 21-07-2005 02:10 AM

seriously, wot is the point in quittin smokin? i have smoked 4 like 6 years, quit once for about 6 months and felt worse and les healthy than i did when i was smokin. ooh and smokin means i'll die younger so im quite happy chuffing away.
allthough im very strange so probably the only person in the world who doesnt want 2 quit, provides far to much stress relief.

J

Yobor 21-07-2005 02:13 AM

You die if you keep smoking. Bad enough, dumbass?

Anyway, one thing people do is occupy their time. Eat sunflower seeds. :tomato:

Jimbo the Legend 21-07-2005 02:15 AM

yeah that was kinda my point, smokin will save me livin to a ripe old age and havin to be waited on hand and foot. mayb its just me but i dont wanna get old!!

J

and we all gotta die sometime, just a question of when where and how

chickenman 21-07-2005 08:58 AM

The best way to quit is to cut off your hands :)
The picture below should help.

http://catalog.nucleusinc.com/imagescooked/259W.jpg


PrejudiceSucks 21-07-2005 10:07 AM

That's grafting, that's the wussy way out. What you really want to do is inject yourself with herion or similar and gleefully sand your hands off with a belt sander.

That or just find something more addictive to do.

Anyway, good luck.

Doc Adrian 21-07-2005 10:09 AM

Good luck again :)

omg 21-07-2005 12:04 PM

cheers guys i know im gonna do it this time. im determined. and i have been reading about the psycholigy of quitting as well before i started this attempt so i feel i have the mental tools in place in order to do it. is now third day no smokin and im feeling better than i did the previos 2 days actually. once i get through today i am no longer physically addicted. the first major test is going to be going down the pub.
im definatly going to take a picture of my throat for the people who have been saying smoking is cool.


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