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Sebatianos 11-06-2005 09:44 PM

Heh... I'm surprised this hasn't came up sooner...

I personally don't believe in any kind of horoscope, but I do know my signs...

Zodiac (your regular western horoscope): Virgio
Chineese: Horse
Aztec: Monkey
Hebrew: Maple Tree
Slavic: Poplar Tree

So - do you know of any other horoscopes and do you know your signs?

Playbahnosh 11-06-2005 10:05 PM

I know some of mine too. Hey, why dont you add a poll to this thread to see how many of each are on the forum :D

Mine:

Zodiac: Aquarius
Chinise: OX
Aztec: some bird, I don't know for sure

Tulac 11-06-2005 10:29 PM

Zodiac: Scorpio
Chinese: Dragon

The rest I don't know, but I don't believe in horoscope, because it means every person who was born in the sam day will act the same in their life, and go through the sam experiences, and there are certainly several thousand people born every day, so I find that hard to believe...

Playbahnosh 11-06-2005 10:39 PM

The horoscopes don't contain specific data on everybod, it's just an overlay what should happen to you that day. For example, todays horoscope for aquarius(for me):

Daily work (by Astrology.com)
Be bold at work right now and make things happen. An unusual array of challenges require a quick and creative solution -- and you're just the person to dream up that ingenious plan

See? It IS true in a meaining. My freakin system crached and I was working on it all day today, solving problems as they came. So it is true for me, and probably true for another thousand aquarius worldwide... :D
It doesnt contain specific data, but it mentions kinds of actions and feelings that might happen to you on that day...
It is quite amazing how accurate this Yahoo! Horoscope can be :D

Dino 11-06-2005 10:39 PM

I don't believe either. Though it can be sometimes interesting to read it, especially if it's good for you. :D

Sebatianos 11-06-2005 10:47 PM

Well I don't believe in horoscopes predicting events... But if you really look at people you'll see that they basically fall into certain groups.

These groups of people will act in a similar way - and there seem to be 12 different groups.
For me horoscope is more of an atempt to specify in which group a person would belong and according to what patterns that person would act.
In this way I guess the Chineese horoscope is the most accurate one (usually people in a same generation react similarly)...

Playbahnosh 11-06-2005 10:49 PM

It can be pretty interesting if it not too. One day I read my 'cope on Yahoo! and it said I will take part in a lot of arguing and fighting that day. It was a warm sunny day, I coundnt belive that, but at the end of the day, there was plenti of arguing with my girlfriend actually... so this happens....
(damn my headache is worse than ever... I can't type porperply)

Tulac 11-06-2005 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Jun 11 2005, 11:47 PM
In this way I guess the Chineese horoscope is the most accurate one (usually people in a same generation react similarly)...
This is SO not true...
And about horoscope predictiong your day, or giving you guidelines, I can say something about what will be the next day, and no matter of what I say you can interpret it as being correct...

Sebatianos 11-06-2005 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Playbahnosh@Jun 12 2005, 12:49 AM
...but at the end of the day, there was plenti of arguing with my girlfriend actually...
Well you don't need a horoscope to tell you that (please don't tell Rainwife I said that :D ).

Doc Adrian 12-06-2005 01:44 AM

Taurus and the Snake

respectively..and I don't really believe in the fortune telling astrology either :)

I know my Chinese horoscope because I have too much time to read my place mat while they make my Chinese food.

Triton 12-06-2005 02:51 AM

ADoM: Wand
Chinese: Ox
Zodiac: Aries
Blood: O-
Psychic: Shamanistic
Catholicism: Understanding

I never understood what was so popular with the Zodiac system; it was based on people who thought the stars were gasses that came from chariot wheels which belonged to the gods. One trick I like to do to such a person when they ask me what my Zodiac sign is lie: I'd say Libra, and when they say "Oh yeah, you're such a Libra" reply with "Haha! I'm really [sign other than Aries or Libra], you quack!", then finally tell the truth.

Ever meet those jokers who make financial decisions based on the stars and curse planets when they don't win in soda bottle cap contests? Odd bunch of wingnuts, I'll tell you...

Doc Adrian 12-06-2005 02:55 AM

LOL..

I think most people if not all people have some of the traits in all the signs in one way or the other. I lie about my sign too and have had a few people say the same to me.

If my horoscope worked without failure I would be a rich and powerful person by now...but alas the only time my horoscope has been of help to me is when I play Gabriel Knight

Evad 12-06-2005 06:48 AM

Hey guys, my roomate is really into this. and he taulght me the importance of finding not only your sun sign in the zodiac, but also your moon sign. I forget how, but I'm sure there are some web sits around. You have to know the timezone and the time of your bitrth thats all I know. From what I remember your sun sign(newspaper horoscope) represents your concious personality. Your moon sign is supposed to go deeper and explain things you really may not understand about your underlining issues and motivations....hope it helps.
zodiac. sun:taurus / moon:Pisces
chinese. Horse
aztec house
update: this site will tell you if you know the time of your birth.
http://goddess.astrology.com/moon/signs.html
here's a neat little tool that will cross refference you zodiac and chinese signs to elaborate on your personality.
http://www.ofesite.com/spirit/chines...t/westeast.htm

Spoonman 12-06-2005 07:16 AM

I'm a cancer and a monkey. Well ain't that fun? :P

But you can bend any horoscope prediction just so that it works for you. Any good horoscope anyone gullable truly believes to be nothing coincidential works that way.

Stroggy 12-06-2005 07:59 AM

I don't believe in horoscopes, but an old girlfriend I had did believe in it and told me I have a very lucky horoscope since I'm an aries in the western zodiac and a Dragon in the chinese zodiac.
According to the chinese zodiac the westerncountrepart of the Dragon is the Aries and the favorable month of the Dragon is april (as an aries I am from april)

I haven't figured out how a set of similarities can make me lucky, but ah well, I'm sure some 50 year old reality-TV-watching housewife named Irene is envious of my sign.


Iron_Scarecrow 12-06-2005 10:05 AM

The question is are you lucky?

TheChosen 12-06-2005 10:18 AM

Zodiac:Gemini
Chinese:Horse(if i remember correctly)

Stroggy 12-06-2005 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Jun 12 2005, 11:05 AM
The question is are you lucky?
I don't believe in luck.

Iron_Scarecrow 12-06-2005 10:26 AM

Would someone you know that does believe in luck say you are lucky?

Stroggy 12-06-2005 10:39 AM

No, I don't think so. Then again I'm no optimist either.
But we are straying.

Quintopotere 12-06-2005 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Jun 11 2005, 10:47 PM
Well I don't believe in horoscopes predicting events... But if you really look at people you'll see that they basically fall into certain groups.

These groups of people will act in a similar way - and there seem to be 12 different groups.
For me horoscope is more of an atempt to specify in which group a person would belong and according to what patterns that person would act.
In this way I guess the Chineese horoscope is the most accurate one (usually people in a same generation react similarly)...

I think that if you decide to put people in 5 groups, for example the five natural elements, you'll find that they can fit very well!
The same if you choose 4 groups like in ayurveda medicine or 7 groups like the days of a week...

know that i'm gemini and if i read some horoscopes i can think "oh, i'm just like they wrote!", but if i read the Taurus horoscope i find that it fit very well too!

So i don't believe in horoscopes :not_ok:

Sebatianos 12-06-2005 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Jun 12 2005, 12:05 PM
The question is are you lucky?
Nope, the question is:

Do you feel luck, punk? :bleh:

omg 12-06-2005 12:25 PM

star sighn : aries
chineese: monkey

i seem to follow a lot of the aries traits. im quick to anger, usually quick to forgive. i make rash decisions. i like to walk fast, my head forwards. i get annoyed by cancerians. i can be extremely self absorbed and arrogent at times. i get into projects and work on them 24/7 then get annoyed and start something else.

as for the monkey i have a good sense of balance, have broken multiple mountain bikes by jumping them off of concrete. im good at rock and tree climbing, and on the rare occasions i laugth it is a high pitched monkey like laugth.

troop18546 12-06-2005 12:49 PM

I think mine is: aries.

I can be quite agressive, but have a good heart and try not to make conflicts.
On the point of work, I'd say that I work hard only in things that are fun for me.
I follow the horoscope and it often predicts what move I intend to do.

Havell 12-06-2005 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Jun 12 2005, 12:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Jun 12 2005, 12:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Iron_Scarecrow@Jun 12 2005, 12:05 PM
The question is are you lucky?
Nope, the question is:

Do you feel luck, punk? :bleh: [/b][/quote]
Actually, if you watch the Dirty Harry films closely you'll see that he doesn't actually say "punk", it's just something that got put into the phrase for some reason. Oh, and the phrase is "Do you feel lucky?". :bleh:

Anyway

Normal: Aries
Chinese: Snake

I don't really know what they mean though.

TheChosen 12-06-2005 01:59 PM

I belive in luck, because im so damn lucky.
I also belive in karma.

Sebatianos 12-06-2005 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by R Havell@Jun 12 2005, 03:17 PM
Actually, if you watch the Dirty Harry films closely you'll see that he doesn't actually say "punk", it's just something that got put into the phrase for some reason. Oh, and the phrase is "Do you feel lucky?". :bleh:
Hehehe - got you!

How did I know people will think about Dirty Harry:

I said: Do you feel luck not y in the end, punk.
(This time it wasn't a typo - which is almost unusual for me)

So it's not weather you believe in luck or not, but weather you feel it or not. You may not believe in it, but you can feel its effects - kinda like with gravitation (you may not believe it exists, yet you still won't go floating through the air because of it).

Stroggy 12-06-2005 02:54 PM

My dear gentlemen, we are straying.

omg 12-06-2005 02:56 PM

i belive in karma. so i guess luck ties into karma. i do think a lot of "prediction" is people spouting out loads of stuff that is likely to happen. then when something they said happens u think "wow (he/she/androgenous) must be psychic" but you forget the things that they said that didnt happen.
i think nostradamus just wrote loads of predicions based on the kind of stuff that actually happens. then when some of them actually happened (o w0w) people started waiting for the rest. he was just playing the probability game. its the same with horoscopes. but i belive a personal horoscope is a different matter. i had one done and it was intensly accurate.

Evad 12-06-2005 10:39 PM

Sebatianos.
Day of the current taste.
My book says these people are always in style.
ruled by the number 3 (2+1)
ruled by the planet jupiter.
Watch yuor pocket book.
21st card of modern arcana+ the world. means make your way in the world with constructive fasion.
In regards to health, be natural, mirical diets and health crazes always have a catch.
Advice, look within for true values, don't get caulght up in the lastest craze.
meditation, "Beauty is not something you must always look for."

playbahnosh,
Day of outstanding achievments.
capable of outstanding achievments. often physical. think david and goliath.
number 1
tarot the magician. intellect, communicationinformationas well as magic. very diplomatic.
health watch out for nervous disorders.
keep hold of the tigers tail.meditation"there are ever-recurring miracles in everyday life.


Tulac,
day of fortitude.
ruled by number 4
planet+ uranus
tarrot+the emporer.+stable and wise and the force of his authority can not be questioned. strong energy and willpower to spare.
health, vigorus exercise is recomended endurance sports and competition.
the greatest power is the power of love.I recoment huey louis and the blues ;)
meditation" Relinquishing power may at certain times be the most powerful thing we can do."

overlord,
day of body language.
great reader of body language.
number 3
tarot hanged man, look above.
health, learn limitations. Structure sleep food and exercise. foods, breads, meats rice wheat and corn. and vegtables. stay away from coffee and sugar. look into graceful exercises lke yoga or tai chi.
develop spiritual side more.
meditation, "all substances give the illusion of permanence, but in fact are only representations of varying states of energy."

doc adrian.
day of the modern irrepressibles.
good at seeing past and present oppertunities. very good foresight. set their own paths.
number 5
tarot temptress.+ card cautions against all egotistical excess. resist trends and try to establish your own path.
health, self induced stress. headaches, sore throat, thyroid conditions and neck and upper back pain may all be from stress internalized.regular exercise is suggested.
remember to moderate yourself.
meditation"study the past, live the present, prepare for the future."

triton
day of societal awareness.
have antennae out, looking at public mood. social talents are impressive.
number 3
tarot hangedman. look above.
health, blessed with a healthy constitution.watch out for additive habits. also make sure you get enough sleep, exercise and a "healthy" diet.meditation is highly suggested as these peope need a quiet place within to reside.
Gain confidence at a deep level.
meditation"denial of what happens slows down the process of self discovery.

spoonman,
day of romantic exaltation.
watchout for these guys ladies. look at love as an adventure, and an art.
number 4
tarot, the fool,positive is spontinuity, and confidence, negitive is foolishness impulsivness and annialation.
may be plauged with allergies, and digestion can be a problem.
meditation."if not in this life, then in the next."

stroggy.
day of solid control
exhibit endurance and singlemindedness.
number 1
planet the sun
tarot, the sun, can be considered the most favorable tarot. means knowledge, vitality and good fortune!! promises esteem and reward. posits good qualities alarity, harmony, and fine reputation. watch out for pride, vanity and false apperance.
health. Exercise is essential to yuor health.get plenty of sleep very important. if you get sleep disorder(rare, hot baths or massage .loose yourself in the simple delights of this life. not everything can be controlled.
be open to change.
meditation.
the greatest power is the power of love."

iron scarecrow.
day of ingenuity. very private.
ingenius in carrying out their plans.number 3
tarot the emperess. creative intelligence. Faithful, and loyal to family and friends. charming graceful unconditional love. don't strive to hard for perfection.
reserch nutrition to help with diet selection.
focus on your own development. Delegate more without worrying too much. maintain contact with the world.
meditation "if one burrows down deep enough, one may come out on the other side."

thechosen
Day of the buoyant optimist.
very optimistic, sometimes unrealisticly.
ruled by number 3.
planet is jupiter.
Tarrot card+hangman.+spiritually powerful and deeply thoughtfull. able to recognize limitations and overcome.
be careful , and protect your digits.
meditation "the sun brings both life and death."

quintopotere
the day of quicksilver.
revelation, tradition the exchange of ideas. drawn to drama. Not likely to shrink from conflict, or submit to injustice.very democratic.
number 2
tarot, the priestess, calm and inpenetrable.spiritual and empowering.
pick your battles, and be careful when approaching situations where violence and physicallity are prevalent.
meditation "the tyrant and the murderer are temorarily insane in their denial of the right to live."

omg
day of enthusiastic belief.
infuse everything they do with enthusiastic commitment.
if you had a bad childhood, learn to let it go and embrace your positive side ;) maybe you were a rebel when you were young. grow to be incredibly wise in later years. if you are near 28 you may be ready for a big change that will change your life big time.
number, 7
tarot is the chariot. success talent and efficiency. neg. dictorial additude and loss of direction.
this has to do with your smoking so I'll write the whole thing...
Those born on april 7th who come to peace with themselves generally live a long life.
the danger is that they will go over board in their enthusiasm overstressing their bodies and taking a good constitution for granted. those born on this day will find their lives greatly shortened unless they realize the limits of their bodies. a conservative re-direction of their life in crisis will ensure a longer life,. a cultivation of patience and just learning to wait is one of your core lessons to be learned in this life.
meditation. "Carpenters say measure twice cut once."


troop
day of policy makers.
when they are at the center of attention it has more to do with their effectivness then their ambition. most comfortable in a desision making team. ideas and not glory stimulate these people.
number 2
tarot justice.
integrity fairness honesty discipline. neg. low initiative, impersonality, fear of inovation and grievances.
health get plenty of sleep or expect stress. extended vacations are highly recomended.
teaching is very suggested profession. strong mentality is good, but don't neglect your physical side, exercise. get away from the computer for at least a bit of time a day.
have an open mind, don't take too many responsabilities.keep your ebnergy flowing, us it or lose it.
meditation," if there is any hope for the world, it can only be in small acts of personal kindness."

rhavel
the day of the observer.
tend to study lifes actions carefully and minutely before acting. cautious.
slippery and difficult to catch, but when they realize someone is serious the come to the table quickly.
number 2
planet moon.
taort the priestess, look above.
usually healthy, but can be on sensitive side. look on the bright side.
drink a lot of water.
meditation"my responsability in this world begins with myself."
avoid fatty foods and alcohol and drugs.


I'd be interested to hear if this applies to any of you, as I found the one on myself to be about 80 % accurate.

win98 12-06-2005 11:21 PM

don't belive in it but i am capricorn

Playbahnosh 12-06-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad@Jun 12 2005, 11:39 PM
playbahnosh,
Day of outstanding achievments.
capable of outstanding achievments. often physical. think david and goliath.
number 1
tarot the magician. intellect, communicationinformationas well as magic. very diplomatic.
health watch out for nervous disorders.
keep hold of the tigers tail.meditation"there are ever-recurring miracles in everyday life.

What is that "often physical" and "think david and goliath"?
the rest seems apropiate :ok:

Triton 12-06-2005 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>have antennae out, looking at public mood. social talents are impressive.[/b]


When I look at the public, I am disgusted by the capitalists who control them and the willingness of the people to be controlled by the former. Hence, I don't care what the public thinks.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>number 3[/b]


Whatever.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
tarot hangedman.
Funny, I had a dream a while back that I was with a girl I know doing homework together in the campus library, and some enemies I had from high school (drop outs, they were) came in each armed with a gun. They covered everyone in the library (I only saw people I knew) as one of them led me up a gallows that suddenly appeared in the library, and I awoke just moments after the noose was tied around my neck.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
look above.
...and see a ceiling.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
health, blessed with a healthy constitution.
That's right.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
watch out for additive habits.
Like smoking and drinking alcoholic beverages? Don't worry; they are money-making schemes by the capitalists, so I keep away from them.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad
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also make sure you get enough sleep,[/quote]

8 hours.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad

exercise and a "healthy" diet.[/quote]

Of course.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>meditation is highly suggested as these peope need a quiet place within to reside.[/b]


I do a lot of meditation.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad

Gain confidence at a deep level.
meditation"denial of what happens slows down the process of self discovery.
[/quote]

whatever.

Playbahnosh 12-06-2005 11:55 PM

:omg: that was deep dude!
By the way, I liek the magician part in mine! I like that character.
And I like to hear I'm capable of incredible archivements too :D

omg 13-06-2005 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad@Jun 12 2005, 10:39 PM
omg
day of enthusiastic belief.
infuse everything they do with enthusiastic commitment.
if you had a bad childhood, learn to let it go and embrace your positive side ;) maybe you were a rebel when you were young. grow to be incredibly wise in later years. if you are near 28 you may be ready for a big change that will change your life big time.
number, 7
tarot is the chariot. success talent and efficiency. neg. dictorial additude and loss of direction.
this has to do with your smoking so I'll write the whole thing...
Those born on april 7th who come to peace with themselves generally live a long life.
the danger is that they will go over board in their enthusiasm overstressing their bodies and taking a good constitution for granted. those born on this day will find their lives greatly shortened unless they realize the limits of their bodies. a conservative re-direction of their life in crisis will ensure a longer life,. a cultivation of patience and just learning to wait is one of your core lessons to be learned in this life.
meditation. "Carpenters say measure twice cut once."

simply amazing. all of it true. (except maybe efficency) oh and sucsess, but i have maybe come near to sucsess before but lost it due to a loss of direction. i used to be able to fill evryone with enthuasiam. these days im a broken man though. still absalutly amazing :ok:

Evad 13-06-2005 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Playbahnosh+Jun 12 2005, 05:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Playbahnosh @ Jun 12 2005, 05:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Evad@Jun 12 2005, 11:39 PM
playbahnosh,
Day of outstanding achievments.
capable of outstanding achievments. often physical. think david and goliath.
number 1
tarot the magician. intellect, communicationinformationas well as magic. very diplomatic.
health watch out for nervous disorders.
keep hold of the tigers tail.meditation"there are ever-recurring miracles in everyday life.

What is that "often physical" and "think david and goliath"?
the rest seems apropiate :ok: [/b][/quote]
This is all from a book I have, I think its very accurate most of the time, not always tho.
Day of the outstanding achiever....capable of outstanding achievments. Most often these achievments are of a physical, or physically related nature, in which great odds must be over-come through sheer guts and determination. Yet the mental factor of this day is also hig. Without unusual will power to give their actions force and determination, and a highly conceptualized abilities to guide them such physical acomplishments would never materialize.
....very individual in their choice of challenges and interests. The most highly ivolved of this day are realistic about their capabilities and thus, although they mayappear to others as daring, even reckless, have themselves under control...yadda yadda LOL. I'm so tired of typing, I have spen about 3 hours on this now....I'm such a slow typer.

Evad 13-06-2005 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Triton+Jun 12 2005, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Triton @ Jun 12 2005, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Quote:

Originally posted by Evad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>have antennae out, looking at public mood. social talents are impressive.[/b]


When I look at the public, I am disgusted by the capitalists who control them and the willingness of the people to be controlled by the former. Hence, I don't care what the public thinks.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
number 3
Whatever.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
tarot hangedman.
Funny, I had a dream a while back that I was with a girl I know doing homework together in the campus library, and some enemies I had from high school (drop outs, they were) came in each armed with a gun. They covered everyone in the library (I only saw people I knew) as one of them led me up a gallows that suddenly appeared in the library, and I awoke just moments after the noose was tied around my neck.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
look above.
...and see a ceiling.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
health, blessed with a healthy constitution.
That's right.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad
watch out for additive habits.
Like smoking and drinking alcoholic beverages? Don't worry; they are money-making schemes by the capitalists, so I keep away from them.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad
@
also make sure you get enough sleep,



8 hours.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad

exercise and a "healthy" diet.[/quote]

Of course.

Quote:

Originally posted by Evad+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>meditation is highly suggested as these peope need a quiet place within to reside.[/b]


I do a lot of meditation.

<!--QuoteBegin-Evad

Gain confidence at a deep level.
meditation"denial of what happens slows down the process of self discovery.
[/quote]

whatever.[/b][/quote]
Triton..
Sounds like you are un-interested but I'll read a little further into this for you. There are actually about 1000 words that describe every day, as well as a list of notable people born on the same day.
...Whether they write, speak or simply act as a spokesman for colleagues, friends or family, these people are never happier than when they are putting their point of view, communicating with their fellow human beings who hopefuly are listenin.
...These people may have what ammounts to an insatiable interest in current events and for some, commenting on the state of affairs can be equally important to them. Consiquently the danger exists that they will become judgemental personalities or victims of the judgement of others. For this reason it is important for them to pull back periodically and find a quiet place where they can objectively examine not only their judgements but also their inner workings.
...These people have a great sence of humor and are willing and able to laugh at themselves.

Often they are experts in rules of games, law or social conventions and are sought out for advice.
number three means that these people are often ambitious, even dictartorial. Generally intent on mediation and comprimise, ambitious tendencies like these often leave them in sticky situations. This with jupiter gives these people a highly expansive and optimistic additude in there thoughts and endevours. But the added influence of mars(aries) can indicate hot-headedness and over-confidence.
the hanged man is not hanging by his neck, but by one ankle. Though he seems helpless, the hanged man is nevertheless spiritually powerful and deeply thoughtfull. the positives of this card are recognizing limitations, problem solving and human qualities. Negatives are spiritual myopia and restrictedness.
says you probably like to eat with others. so food is a social and not a pleasure in itself.


i put this here for your humor. The thing about horoscopes is they are not meant to tell you everything about yourself, as every one is different, with different lives and experience. They just give you a bit of a map. I believe them personally.

Evad 13-06-2005 04:12 AM

OMG, I found this book to be very accurate of myself as well. If you get a chance look for it it is a great coffee table book."the secret language of birthdays". by gary goldschneider and joost elffers.

wendymaree 13-06-2005 04:18 AM

I'm not sure i believe in astrology or not. Perhaps there are influences there that create our initial personalities, but then we can make anything of ourselves that we like. We're like computers that can be re-programmed at any time.

I'm a double Leo with sun and moon in Leo. But I'm not very typical of that sign. *shrugs*

Evad 13-06-2005 04:29 AM

you asked for it wendy..LOL
Day of the winner. those born on this day are not only survivors, but usually wether the storm and come oput on top.
number 1 planet sun.
tarot the magician, diplomatic skill and shrewdness, neg. lack of scruples and oppertunism.
meditation "communative disease is an expression of humanities need to share."
notables born on this day. Jacueline Kenedy Onassis, Beatrix Potter, Sally struthers,

wendymaree 13-06-2005 05:03 AM

Oh thanks for that, Evad :) I do land on my feet after a disaster. But lacking scruples...?

Stroggy 13-06-2005 07:44 AM

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day of solid control
I see...

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number 1
1 is always the first... but also the loneliest number, two is almost as lonely.

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planet the sun
Isn't the sun a star?
Anyway, I always saw myself as Emperor of the Sun... except for all the ballet.

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means knowledge
check

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vitality
check

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and good fortune!!
why do people keep saying that?!

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watch out for pride, vanity and false apperance.
I don't need to watch out, I am always perfect!

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* hot baths or massage .loose yourself in the simple delights of this life. not everything can be controlled.

That doesn't sound very masculine, I think I'll just have Enrique give me a backrub.



Puffin 13-06-2005 10:52 AM

I don't believe in this stuff.
But I'm Saggitarius in Zodiac, Crocodile in the Aztek and Rabbit in Chineese.

_r.u.s.s. 13-06-2005 11:46 AM

WTF

Aztec, Hebrew and Slavic horoscop?
what is that??
maybe it sound like iam ... noob, but realy what are those horoscopes?

Stroggy 13-06-2005 12:31 PM

I myself didn't know there was a hebrew horoscope either, according to Judaism, horoscopes would full under the category of soothsayery and thus not allowed.

Quintopotere 13-06-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by Stroggy@Jun 13 2005, 12:31 PM
I myself didn't know there was a hebrew horoscope either, according to Judaism, horoscopes would full under the category of soothsayery and thus not allowed.
I saw in TV a jewish doing something like an horoscope using names and surnames: does something like this exist?

Stroggy 13-06-2005 01:17 PM

There are kabalistic meanings behind names which can be found using Gematria (giving each letter a number and then calculating some things) but astrology is forbidden.
However it's never that simple in Juda?sm, Juda?sm does believe in Astrology (horoscopes) soothsayery and even necromancy (in the Book of Kings that first king of Israel, Saul, goes insane for serveral reason and eventually contacts a female necromancer to let his former mentor's ghost rise from the grave - some scholars say it was all a trick and the soothsayer had her own political agenda but nevermind that)

So while it may be possible to foresee the future and such, it's not allowed.

Gematria is difficult to explain and most of the time probably just sheer coincidence.
Like this, for example: There is a story in Judaism where a Grande Visier (He was called Hamman and was a decendant of the Amalekites, sworn enemies of the jewish people. Saul was supposed to kill them all but he let them live and eventually became insane and so on, it all hangs together) in ancient Persia wanted to kill all the jews in the empire. Now Hamman had 10 sons and the first letter of the names of these sons is written in an unually large type in even the oldest scriptures telling the story (scriptures dating back hundreds of year to medieval times) Now if you would gematria each letter would get a number, and if you would count up all these numbers you'd get a large number which corresponds with the hebrew date that Ribbentrop, Keitel, Rosenberg, Frank, Frick, Kaltenbrunner, Streicher, Sauckel, Jodl, and Seyss-Inquart were hanged after their trial at Nurenberg (at the end of the jewish story Hamman and his sons were all hanged from the tree they had planted to hang the leader of the Jews from)

Quintopotere 13-06-2005 02:54 PM

Thanks for the explanation :ok:

Doc Adrian 13-06-2005 10:55 PM

doc adrian.
day of the modern irrepressibles.
good at seeing past and present oppertunities. very good foresight. set their own paths.
number 5
tarot temptress.+ card cautions against all egotistical excess. resist trends and try to establish your own path.
health, self induced stress. headaches, sore throat, thyroid conditions and neck and upper back pain may all be from stress internalized.regular exercise is suggested.
remember to moderate yourself.
meditation"study the past, live the present, prepare for the future."

if I agree with everything I would be really egotistical :), 7 is a luckier number for me than 5 usually. I always do try to establish my own path, and I hate working for other people full time.
I got the stress and headaches, the rest not yet. I should excersise more. I am moderate at being moderate.

all in all not bad, though I can see alot of people have the same traits as me, and are also born under different signs

Evad 13-06-2005 11:08 PM

Doc, I should have mentioned, the numer is not a lucky number. It is numerology.
ruled by number 5, and planet murcury. These together represent change, making both a disdain for plodding behaviour and a propensity for impulsive action. The combination of murcury and venus(ruler of taurus) lends grace wit and idealism.Must guard against recklessness and master spontanius urges, yet be open to gradual change when it is benificial. Fortunately, the number 5 bestows resiliance, so you'll probably recover from hard knocks in life.:)


Evad 13-06-2005 11:24 PM

Was meaning to get to win98. Jan10th.
day of the hard look.
Realists in first and formost, are able to take a hard look at just about anything and size it up and act accordingly. Rarely fall prey to false optimism, dreamy hopes or visions, they are usually somewhat proud of their realistic approach. Wether they are sensitive or not, they rarely let feelings get in the way of facts, so if you want the truth ask these people, as they are not accostom to sugar coating the pill or honeying their words.
They may be accused of being blunt or indiplomatic, but never dishonest. Even their detractors must admit that these people don't act on a double standard. They apply the same strict and unyielding standards to themselves that they expect from anyone else.
Due to the fact that they are observers, they rarely strike first, but when dragged into a conflict watch out, cause that is where these peole shine, for after two minutes these guys will have sumed you up, and then stard the counter offensive...(do you play chess?)
These people enjoy life, why not when you're prepaired for everything? These people are good at holding in emotion, so if you hurt them, you will probably not know it.
number 1, and planet(or star if you like ) the sun.
means they like to be at the top of their leauge. Sun gives qualities or warmth and well developed ego, and a distinctly human and positive orientation.However as capricorns, they are ruled by saturn which not only reins in the suns warmth but also hardens it.These guys have solid set in views on subjects of interest, and can be stubborn in this respect.
tarot, the wheel of fortune. This symbolizes the ups and downs of life. Their are no rose colored glasses in these peoples lives, just a realization that nothing is perminant, and if hardship isn't nipping at you heels, it's probably around the very next corner;). this doesn't mean they are pesimists, just realists. medidation, "opening one's heart can be accomplished either surgically, or spiritually."

Evad 13-06-2005 11:46 PM

just for your info this is me.
May 2, Day of human observation.
These people exhibit a special interest in human development.They are not shy about expressing their ideas on a variety of subjects concerning people . Usually are self employed as they don't specialize in the fine art of getting along with others.One temptation is for these people to gassip and pry into the affairs of others, but this is mostly out of curiosityand not out of malevolence. Not surprisingly they are sensitive to gossip directed their way. Mostly analytical and not creative and objective as opposed to subjective and intelligent rather then intuitive. When interested in a subject they are like a dog with a bone, and will usually drive an argument as far as it will go.A big problem with these people is a lack of tact, and the tendency to be abrasive in speech.this may not only antagonize people but also create enemies. This being the case, may 2nd people would benifite from applying thier analysis and intelligence in human studies to diplomacy. These people tend to be perfectionists, and like to work on their own.number, 2 and the moon.
moon influence lends to romance and imaginative nature with venus(rule taurus). This may conflict with the objective nature of these people.
tarot, priestess.favorable qualities are silence, intuition, reserve, and discression, negatives are secretness, mistrust indifference and inertia. Health being perfectionists, psychological stress may stack up, and effect themselves and those around them. usually plauged with headaches, sore throats and anxiety.fresh fruit, vegetables and grains are the staples of healthy grounded diet for may 2 people.Only moderate exercise is recomended, with plenty of rest.regular vacations, to supliment rigorous work schedule.meditation "that which shatters silence we call noise; that which enhances silence we call music."
I found this to be 75 - 80 % accurate.

A. J. Raffles 14-06-2005 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by Evad@Jun 13 2005, 11:24 PM
Was meaning to get to win98. Jan10th.
day of the hard look.

Oh, great. That would be me as well, then. :blink:

Seriously, though: have you noticed any similarities between win98 and me? Or would that be because I'm a monkey and he's a, erm, sheep?:huh:

Iron_Scarecrow 14-06-2005 07:04 AM

I'm Sagittarius, I stab you all with arrow shot from bow. :evil:

And in chinese I think I'm the rat, or maybe it was the cat?
I don't know whatever dec 3 1987 is.

A. J. Raffles 14-06-2005 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Jun 14 2005, 07:04 AM
And in chinese I think I'm the rat, or maybe it was the cat?
I don't know whatever dec 3 1987 is.

According to the link Evad posted, that would make you a rabbit, I think. Well, your liking for carrots (and toast) should have given you a hint, really.:P

Well, I don't know about you lot, but I'd hate to think there are hundreds of people who are more or less identical to me, just because the happen to have been born at the same moment in time. It would feel a bit like an insult to my individuality...:(

Iron_Scarecrow 16-06-2005 05:46 AM

Yeah rabbit that's the one. Do rabbits eat toast?

taikara 16-06-2005 07:16 AM

Ermm... I was unable to post in this topic previously... was on forced vacation... :whistle:

But, for the record, I'm a:

Sun sign: Pisces
Moon sign: Leo
House: Sagittarius

Chinese: Monkey

Don't really believe in all this stuff, but it can be eerily accurate, and is definitely interesting :D

(and no, I didn't read every single post, but then, as I'm just posting my own info, I don't really have to, right... right?)

A. J. Raffles 16-06-2005 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by Iron_Scarecrow@Jun 16 2005, 05:46 AM
Yeah rabbit that's the one. Do rabbits eat toast?
Of course they do. Haven't you read Winnie the Pooh? No, wait, it's bread and condensed milk, right?:unsure:

Fruit Pie Jones 16-06-2005 03:52 PM

Here's the rundown on me:

Western: Pisces
Pisceans are intuitive, empathic, selfless, and spiritual. They feel the joys and pains of others, are the greatest lovers in the world, and are able to breathe underwater. Pisces is most compatible with Aquarius, who does a pretty good job of keeping the tank clean.

Eastern: Tiger
Tigers are sensitive, sympathetic, and capable of deep thinking. They have a tendency to be stubborn, but still somehow manage to be the greatest lovers in the world. Tigers are most compatible with Horses, Dragons, and Dogs. Have you tried the General Tso's Chicken?

Northern: Plaid Hat with Ear Flaps
Plaid Hats with Ear Flaps are warm and comforting. They make great companions and will never abandon a friend in difficult times. Their loyalty will last a lifetime, and this is one reason why they are considered the greatest lovers in the world. The Plaid Hat with Ear Flaps is compatible with the Drunken Hunter, the Beer, and the Moose, eh?

Southern: '67 Ford Pickup
'67 Ford Pickups maintain a low profile. They are certainly not flashy, preferring substance over style, but they are hard-working and dependable. Naturally, this makes them the greatest lovers in the world. The '67 Ford Pickup is compatible with the Grits, the Cut-Off Jeans, and the 12-Gauge Shotgun, but never with the '71 Chevy.


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