Elder Scrolls, The - Arena
 

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available)

Laarge game, though it consists of always the same textures, so it gets little repetetive with time... B)

I think they did a good job of diversifying it all by adding different architectural textures, and differen't landscape textures.
and it gets a haulover during winters.

I forgot to mention in the interview that there are some special days on which youg et free ale in pubs and magic stuff at 1/2 of the price.
but thats not all that important.

Hope my review wasn't too dry.

Your review was excellent! I'm just happy you refrained from calling everyone a tree-hugging peace-nik :P

That special days are the entire holidays, there are many of them, and they all have their own special bonuses, like the mentioned cheaper magic items.

I only throw around minor insults to people here on the forum.
No need to insult people visiting abandonia just to download without even thanking or contributing... lazy treehugging peaceniks.

anyway
those days aren't always holidays.
Some change from city to city. Like when the generous ruler of Ald Rhun offers to pay the bill in taverns an entire day long for no real reason.

The pictures in the review don't do the game much credit
most of them are in the starter dungeon.
If anyone hasn't played the game already, here are some above-ground screenshots.

http://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/znagaya/tes/arena.jpghttp://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/zna...ight_town1.jpg
http://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/znagaya/tes/snowy5.jpghttp://members.at.infoseek.co.jp/znagaya/tes/field1.jpg

Well....

I couldn't figure out how I attacked. So that little goblin on the screenshot killed me. :unsure:

Uhh, that must been embarassing... http://forum.giga.de/forum/images/smilies/tongue.gif
You'll need to press the left mouse button, hold it then and draw the cursor then from left to right (or from right left?) side.

actually
you hold down the right mouse button.
and you can swing by dragging to mouse from left to right, or from right to left, or up and down (basically just move around a bit with the mouse)

Cool.

(Now if only I had a mouse to move around :angry: )

What, you even don't have a mouse? http://forum.giga.de/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif

Greetings, folks. Just wanted to let you know this is available off the TES main site at www.elderscrolls.com as freeware due to their 10th anniversary in the downloads section.

Oh, my offer from the e-mail I sent you a while back still stands if you're interested.

Cheers.

hmmm
Pity Daggerfall isn't abandonware.
Dggerfall really expands the entire concept by letting the player buy a horse and a carriage and houses. And joining all those guilds and getting involved with political intrigue.
We'll just have to wait 10 years for bethesda's 20th birthday before they release it for free

YES! Arena, this game is so great. Thanks a lot for putting it up on the site you guys, I know I'm going to have a LOT of fun with this!

I take it you are one of those people who do not hate the game :)

I take it you are one of those people who do not hate the game :) [/b][/quote]
You got it, this was one of the very first RPGs I ever played and it's what got me hooked. I think I might have been eight years old when I played it. Sure, if you look at it now it doesn't look so great but it's still a great game with (still) great graphics in my opinion, great music, and fun gameplay. Personally, I like it better than Morrowind.

No I don't.

I have two laptops. And I use the mousepad only. Mind you, I am beginning to become a master with the mousepad ;)

Can you think of anyone (besides me) who has finished all the Half Life games, and Soldier of Fortune II Double Helix, using only a mousepad? <_<

I understand.
The graphics are, as I said, okay.
Like the weather and the reflective puddles.

bah, I forgot to mention the music!
I love it how the music adapts to the weather (while its snowing you'll hear some sort of jingle, for example)

Yeah, the music casts really nice feeling, that's true. Especially that snowing music is amazing *sigh*...

I am really looking forward to try this game out. I played Morrowind a lot, and liked it very much. Unfortunaly my computer and all my games where stolen christmas evening, and I couldn't affort a computer that could run Morrowind :huh: , so I guess I have to do with this one.

Great job putting this game on the site, and great review :ok:

thanks.
if you're into morrowind you'll probably prefer Daggerfall
but arena is good too

Arena is a great game!
I can't say that about Daggerfall. Boring repeating scripts, mucho bugs, and the MAP - oh the map in 3D - the creator should be shot for that jewel! :angry:

as I said
Daggerfall was a bugridden game
but if it was stable it would have been an excellent game

Can someona help me? I'm running Arena in DosBox on Windows XP and it moves slow and sluggish. I've tried speeding up with CTRL+F12, but nothing happens. This only starts when in the 3D view.

You can adjust the speed of the game in the game's options itself, also. Just set it to the higher value, but better not the highest. Then it starts to skip frames, if I remember correctly. ;)

Thanks FreeFreddy, but it seems it was the DosBOX speed after all. It starts at 2500 cicles, and the game runs best at 22000 cicles, so I just had to press a little longer :).

At 22000 cycles? :blink:
What kind of PC do you have then? For me around 14000 is the limit for most games and my PC is P4 2.4 Ghz (yet)...

well
in case anybody is interested
TES IV will probably be official announced tomorrow (site opening)
I say probably, but I think this screen speaks for itself:
countdown 1

Yo, Stroggy ma man, how did you put screenchots on the forum? How do I put them in the message?

when you write a reply you can click on the button with IMG written on it (its right about the text window in which you type.
A box will come up asking you for the URL of the image (this link should always end with .jpg or .gif or one of the other imagefile extensions)
make sure the image isn't TOO big (a full wallpaper for example) or 56K'ers will hunt you down with sticks

Sorry for bieng such an idiot, but how do I play the game? I've tried all the executable files, but the only one that works is "INSTALL". Install will only let me adjust the sound options though....

Did you try the game in DOSBox?

DOSBox runs almost EVERY game on this site.

Remember that these are old DOS games, and that WinXP will not work on many of these games. :bye:

Well, ok, that seemed to work, thanks! I hope you won't mind a few more questions though...

The sound doesn't work, what should I set it at if I want to hear the background music, etc?
The game is slower tham molasses, is there any way I can speed it up?
Is there a game manual anywhere so I can learn how it works without just constantly guessing?

You can speed up games in DosBox. With CTRL+F12 you increase CPU cycles which will be proceeded and decrease them with CTRL+F11. To skip frames, which increases the game speed at cost of more choppy displaying, use CTRL-F8 for increasing and CTRL-F7 for decreasing them.

I already tried that, but it doesn't seem to have any effect.


I checked the game's options, but there is no speed setting, did you maybe mean turning the detail up or down?

Hey guys,

I have win98 and the game will run, but it freezes (the computer stops responding and I have to reset) almost every time I try to save and sometimes when I click on the character sheet. Is it possible to somehow fix it without using DosBox, because I have a 333 mhz machine and all games under it are running terribly slow or choppy.

Thanks, Stardust

I know this sounds stupid but how do you equip weapons and stuff like that

This game any good then? I just got a loan of a copy of Elder scrolls 3 morrowind for the X-box. I quite like it.

Is it just me or has anyone else been killed in the starter dungeon by somthin that looked like a giant with a longsword

:eeeeeh:
I don't remember meeting any giant with a sword there... :unsure:

Perhaps if you go to sleep and are awakened by a random spawned enemy.

Perhaps a nord in armor, Nords are pretty big.

Yep thats it. I slept a few hours and then he popped up out of nowhere

Yeah I just downloaded it. Took 45 minutes too, was it worth it?


EDIT: I think I am losing my enthusiasm for posting. I usually blab on, now I'm just straight to the point. :not_ok:

Partially. Repetative game with time, but nice one. ;)

Is it anything like morrowind? I liked that but someone took it. I may have gotten it back. Oh I did. Cool.

Graphically of course not. But the world is very big like in Morrowind too and consists of repeating places like in Morrowind too. But of course Morrowind is much more complex and all that. After all, Arena is the first game of the series. ;)

:wall: AARRGH! How the heck do ya get out of the starter dungeon! i follow the instructions but that leads me to a dead end! :help:
EDIT Pm me

It's goes really slow for me. I can't handle it.

you need to press ctrl+f12 in dosbox to make it run at a normal speed (you notice you've reached the normal speed when the music is fluent)

To get out of the starter dungeon:
Move out of youc ell, move straight forward until you can turn left (the big hallways)
keep moving until you can make a right (over a stream of water)
Kill the goblins on the other side and move forward.
From this point on you should always make a right at each turn... or was it a left?
I think its right...
anyway eventually you'll reach a long narrow hallway with a portal at the end, walk into the portal.

You can easily be killed in the starter dungeon, so i suggest going to sleep in your cell and killing the randomly spawned enemies.
Whne you loose health just find an elevated spot in the cell (where you find the key to the cell door) and sleep there to replentish your health.
Repeat this to gain a few levels quickly and some better weapons (and possibly armor too)

Thank you! :D

Ich Like This game.. but does Anybody know the difference between the classes ? (Well ,i know that a Battlemage can't wear plate-armor pieces... but what else do these classes mean ?)

Never mind

This is simply the scaries game ever. Quallity of graphics isnt the greatest, but the sounds are realistic enough. You hear something close by, you turn and is shocked to see a creature there. Ok, it might be scarier because its not really meant to be scary. But believe me.. Doom3 is nothing compared to it! Doom3 is predictable.. this game isnt.

Also.. I renember when I played it.. entering "rich peoples houses" could result in great stuff and lots of money.. And traders are wealthy enough to buy everything you bring them..

HELP!Game isn't working.It says ''Not enough EMS....".What should I do ?

If you are using dosbox, open the dosbox config file and change EMS=false into EMS=true.


If you are using Windows... get Dosbox. :ok:

Dosbox

Dosbox newbie guide

This is one of my favorite all time games, and here are a couple of tricks that make it all the more fun.

Unlimited Money -- Steal from the rich! Find the nice looking house, walk up to the door, and strike it untill you get in. You may get attacked by the guards, so save the game first. When you make it inside the guards forget that you ever existed so you are free to pillage. The trick comes in when you go up stairs, or back down stairs. Every time you switch floors all the treasure respawns. You can make all the money you will ever need by selling marks, crystals, belts, and other magical items. Beware, it is like a dungeon, so you will have to fight random creatures

Unlimited Stats -- Go to hammerfell and ask random townspeople for general rumors. There are 2 tpyes of people, those who know everything, and those who know nothing. Find one who knows all the rumors, and keep asking them for general rumors untill they give you the quest to find the omgah infinitum (or something sounding similar). Find the bar that they tell you to go to, do the quest and you'll get 50 stat points to distribute to your character. It is repeatable.

AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can't get out of the first dungeon it asks me for some cost or somthin' :cry:

L0L , those are my exact feelings for Daggerfall!! LOL

Full of bugs, as everyone said, but addictive.
It's the only game I can say I've been playing since I've bought it, at least once a week.

Sammo

Chonodhoch,
The price it asks for is a spell cost. You can get this from the manual. Arena Manual

YAY thanks

Well I was embarrased to ask for help but when I saw so many people were stuck in start dungeon I guess it doesnt matter.... :bleh:

Im in Fang Lair(the place from where you will find(Probably)first clue of Staff of Chaos).I explored it throught and throught,opened all chests,im running there like insane but I cant find the quest item.Im having nightmares that one of random spawned goblins have it...(in "briefing" was said that the item was stolen by goblins)......Please help..... :help:

I got Daggerfall it is the BEST Rpg ever made!

This game is cool, but its starting to taste like wood after a couple of hours of playing.


By the way...... are there any mods for this game. Those would make the game much more interesting.

I am SOOOooo stinkin' lost... :cry: I've wondered in these dunguens for hours, I can't find a way out or a way to save (wow... I feel stupid...) I've fought giant lizard men, skeletons, wizard-like people and 1000's of goblins and rats... HELP!! :help:

AAAAAAAAAAAARRGH!!! I downloaded this a couple of minutes ago and even with dosbox it doesn't work! :ranting: :cry: :ranting:

NOW I PLAY MORROWIND TS3(STRONG BIG NORD WITH LOOOOTS OF HEALTH POINTS) MAGIG IS GOOD BUT BIG HAMMER OR AXE AND A BOW IS BETTER.BY RPG GAMES I ALWAYS TAKE THE FIGHTER CHARAKTERS, STRONG TO DO DAMAGE FAST AND TO TAKE HITPOINTS,MAGIC IS GOOD ONLY FROM DISTANCE.BETTER TO BE STRONG AND STUPID BUT ALIVE, THAN SMART,WEAK AND DEAD. ANYWAY I WILL TRAY ARENA JUST TO SEE HOW IT STARTED ! :Titan:

A fun little fact (for the time being) is that the starter dungeon in TES IV: Oblivion will be based on the starter dungeon of TES I: Arena

Hi all :)

I havent played Arena and prolly wont but I can tell you that for me Daggerfall is 100 to 200 times better than Morrowind hehe

Daggerfall sure has lots of bugs, possibly the most bugged game I played but that's it: despite its bugs I still played, countless hours
I couldnt say it's cause you're free to do what you want cause in morrowind you can too and not for graphics cause Morrowind is muuuuuch better there of course
but the movement and fight system in Daggerfall are the best ever to me and I wanted to kill the Devs who changed it for Morrowind
I doubt I could have much fun in Morrowind without fighting, and without moving it's not an option so I'll just forget this game cause thinking it could/should be like Daggerfall is killing me LOL

ok I stop here, and great site btw :ok:

Does anyone have the Codex Scientia (walkthrough book) that they can scan for this game? Thanks. I got it years ago when I first bought the CD version of the game but sold it. :cry:

This will probably sound absolutly stupid but...

...how do I travel to other cities?

:help: When I try playing it whit dosbox I just get a black screen(dosbox window), nothing hapening. Anyone of you know what to do??????

Right click on the map button. :ok:
It doesnt sound stupid,it took me a LOT of time till I discovered it.(I tried to get to antoher city by food.After two days of playinf(realtime) I let it LOL )

Thanks Lizard ^^ Now maybe I can go find Fang Lair.

Anyone that can help me whit my problem, I realy want to try TES arena.

It happened to me once, but i'm not sure if you have the same problem as I do, but all I did was pressing ALT+ENTER and I can see the screen.

I played for a couple days, and sheesh, this game is HARD. It took me a full day to get out of the dungeon, and after many deaths, I finally made it. Once in town I was asking the location of Fang Lair with no results, until night came the moment I saved my game I got killed by bandits. I still get killed so many times when I load my game and I was thinking to restart. :ranting:

Superb game, but very hard.

Just press enter or something nornin, if that is your real name.

I love morrowind its better than daggerfall by a lot. its cool i should be playing it now but im not
Oh, and i am not a terrorist. :ph34r:

Cool game, but insanely hard. I remember came to a location once that had maaany spiders, and I could barely kill one :ranting:

thx for the help but that is not working, and Alt+Enter is only for switching form full screen to window mode and back(didn't nead to test that I know). So my proplem still remains, I start arena whit dosbox and all I am geting is a black dosbox window(and the window that got some text), anyone had the same problem(yes I have tryed to speed up the game whit Ctrl+F12(or whatever it was). :help:

This is a great game. I loved it from the beggining to the end. Since I finished it I started looking for Daggerfall on the net, but couldn't find it. Does anybody know where I could find Daggerfall ?

Nowhere AFAIK, it is very hard to find, and it's not abandoned...

Too bad. I really have no other way of getting that game. :(

Well a friend of a friend of a friend might have it, that's how I got both Daggerfall and Arena(that is before I found it here)...

I am having the same problem about dos box, it comes up as a black screen

I also use vdm sound but ther are certain scenes where the mouse wont work, at the load and start screen which u dont really need it for, and where u give out points to attributes, and thats where i get stuck

any help

Ha, This game is fun thats all I got to say. Was sitting in computer class when I downloaded this and put it one the school server...Fun for everyone!

That happened to me, just go to "http://www.elderscrolls.com/tenth_anniv/Arena106%20Setup.pdf"
It'll tell you what to do. :D

What I meant was that the dosbox window just gets black when I start arena, no intro, no menu, nothing. Anyone knows whats wrong and how to fix it??? :help:

:ok: :ok: :D
The Elder Scrolls Arena is a great game, but tricky sometimes
to set up, I have 98 and it works fine, but more modern systems
need DOSBOX.

For those getting a black screen in DBox, try the set up
info on the makers site where they offer the game as a
tenth anniversary download, at:
http://www.elderscrolls.com/tenth_an...06%20Setup.pdf

I have some notes i will check later,

also Daggerfall is NOT Abandonware, so we should NOT be
asking for it here, I think. :whistle:

Arena is a really challenging game that led to lots of innovations.

LOL

I cant figure out how to get sound to work someone please help!!! :help:


Also i need to get outta the first town but there are no exits


Post here or email me at www.ogasakos@yahoo.com and label it help with elder scrolls.

Help i get a message from the fake emperor and then soon after i get another message after whick i lose my game does anyone know how to avoid this???? :help: :help: :help: :ranting:

Hey yall i am wondering if you all could tell me which towns and stores therein have the following armour pieces:

Ebony Helm

Ebony Pouldron (L)

Ebony Gloves

Thanks. If you know where to go please e-mail me at WWW.Firbolghero@yahoo.com

Hey is there any peeps who visit this forum at all?

Ebony Helmet: Vulkhel Guard in Summurset Isle

Ebony Left Pauldron: Dusk, Shimmerene, Firsthold in Summerset Isle or
Blackrose and Archon in Black Marsh

Ebony Gloves: you can't find them.

Taken from UESP (Unofficial Elder Scrolls Page) which IMHO is the best Elder Scrolls site on the net and the best for the greatest in the series: Daggerfall :kosta: :kosta: :kosta:

************FIXED IT RUNS FINE NOW********


I am pulling my hair out over this.

Okay I have downloaded and installed Arena to my HD (c:)

I open Dosbox and type


Mount c c:\Arena

c:

install

set sound to the right settings

Arena

and I get....

Black Screen...DosBox hangs up

I have increased the cycles..no dice

I have done the setup with no sound...no dice

I have searched the forums....no dice


I have also read the pdf deal that people have posted and the settings for soundblaster are fine.

I can run it with VDMS but the mouse wont work at some critical points...

Anyone have any ideas?

I am having the same problem, I have gotten other games to work so I know its not because I'm a retard, and I have also consulted the pdf and increased the speed

I was 19 and in the navy and I played this game out at sea... it brings back such good memories, PLEASE HELP!

when I try to "install" it it just says "can only install from disk"

nothing works!

well looking at the soud setting in the PDF i've changed the hdma= to nothing, but I cannot figure out how to make T6 (the default) T4 (what the PDF wants)

and I seem to be locking up at the char creation

I need help finding some of the ebony items in the game i still need the ebony pouldren ®, ebony gauntlets, ebony greaves, ebony boots, and the ebony kite. thanks :help:

I Loved this game! :) never beat it due to the fact that my game got messed up so i didnt wish to do all that work again. (i was level 17) :) So now i got a Demo of DAGGERFALL! Awesome. I want to get the full version now. its waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than arena. joining guilds, riding horses, taking everything at 12:00 at night from the stores and storing it in cart till i have 12k weight than selling it for several hundred k worth of stuff. its awesome. Abandonia, Get Daggerfall on here for free download! we will love you for it.

Nope, Sorry. Daggerfall isn't gonna be on here anytime soon. :whistle: It's been discussed WAY too many times for me to say it again.

Well in morrowind my mage could probobly beat your fighter, wait did you say your fighter was nord? eeek!!! got to make a new spell that uses fire not frost.

Mages in morrowind are powerfull if you make it right from the begining.


By the way, iratefive, I got the same problem, you got it fixed? If yes tell me how, if no then... CAN SOMEONE HELP ME AND iratefive????

If you got a solotion then, plz tell on forum.

Well it seems that you must mount c to the directory right BEFORE arena to avoid black screen lockup. eg. I have it under d:\games\arena and i write
mount c d:\games

c:
cd arena
arena

and it works but when i mount c d:\games\arena I get black screen lockup. It doesn't have anything to do with sound though, to get sound to work it seems you need to change/use arena.bat (not a.exe) and i don't know if install configuration has anything to do with it, no matter the choice I didn't get the sound using only a.exe, only with arena.bat (which has sound configs inside if you look at it).

I hope that helps you.

I want to say thanks a lot for uploading this, Morrowind has just recently started to get boring to me. Maybe it's my appreciation for older games, but I just simply love this. I'm going to try and find Daggerfall on eBay this afternoon, if it is all that everyone says, it might become my favorite RPG of alltime (ToME aside, of course). For some reason I don't find this nearly as hard as some people are, I managed out of the dungeon on my second try. \
Started out on Morrowind (let's face it, dunmer/drow pwn) with a spellsword, and so far he's been working out pretty well. Always been a fan of spellswords, get the best of both worlds and they're a more light-hearted to play than battle mages.

As for the the blank screen business, I had the same problem as well. For me, I needed to set DOSBox's soundblaster settings to match what I set in the game's install exe. If you follow Bethesda's "how-to" guide step for step, you shouldn't encounter any problems.

FWIW, Arena runs *great* with VDMsound + mousctl. Just create a VDMSound shortcut to a DOS batch (.BAT) file that looks a bit like this:

I've got DosBox and I can't play because it "jumps"

What do you mean that "jumps"? :huh:

Hey im in the first floor of the caverns for the map of elden groves. There is a door with a golden lock that leads to the upper floor where the heart of the spider queen is at. I need to know how to unlock this without the skeleton's key. The first time i did this i used it as i already had it. This time tho i dont and i dont want to put all my special items up (necromancers ammy, ring of khajitt, ring of phynaster, ebony blade). Can anyone help me on this?

I forget where the ebony pouldron r is and if there is any ebony greeves besides the ebony greeves of (per). Also the last time i played i used an ebony dia-katana which is two handed. Being the ebony blade is single handed i am wondering where the ebony kite shield is.

I have the tip to make money easily....

The items always regenerate every time when you change floor. So, if you can enter wealthy building, just wander between the floor (especially the treasure room floor) you can loot a bunch of rare items until you can carry no more... :w00t:

This way you can make a profit about 4-5 thousand G. per time. :ok:

P.S.

I don't know that if everybody have noticed about this yet? If you do, I have to apologize for my posting.

Yes, it's such a conceptual cheat that it's ruining the game at a way too early stage. It's difficult to understand why they did not fix that before it hit the shelves.

does anyone know the age of the question to get the second door to get the fourth piece of the staff? it goes

i am twice as old as three times the age of the sphrinx ammamagon, divided by one-ninth the age of the sphinx igon. how old am i.

Hey, does anyone know where to get the ebony right pouldren, the kite shield,
or the gloves? (I know the gloves are said to not exist but im just asking to make sure). thanks everyone.

I cant even get this to work even with dosbox,

Any help please?

I am going to complete the list of the best ebony armor and weaponry as soon as i can. If you know the location of any items i dont list or an alternitive location i have not listed please email me at "batair.cathal@gmail.com". Heres the current list i have posted. I will add ebony items as i find them or i here of a place and verify it.

Ebony Gloves - of speed is in blackmarsh in sturmhold the store the adventures supplys (or something like that).
- normal is in morrowind (forgot which town exactly and store will edit this later).
Ebony Cuirass
Ebony Pouldron ®
Ebony Pouldron (L)
Ebony Kite Shield
Ebony Tower Shield
Ebony Round Shield
Ebony Greeves
Ebony Boots
Ebony Dia-Katana

This is not the complete listing yet.

Hey in the dungeon called something like dark den (or something like that) (its the dungeon to find the hammer so you can find the location of the entrace to dagoth ur the volcano in morrowind). Where is the key to open the door in the second floor that is locked with an magical lock? found it.

Some of the puzzle doors you can simply surpass by blasting the walls close to it.

Reflect magic is the ultimate spell in this game.

That happened to me too. I just downloaded the newest DOSBox and and downloaded the game again. Now it works.


And now, I need help. There are times when I keep moving after I let go of the keys. Anyone know how to make it stop doing it? (I've already tryed taping the direction I'm moving and other directions as well.)

Sometimes when people say they're going to add a location to my map it doesn't appear on the map.
Does anyone know why this happens?

I got this game for DOSbox on mac and when I started it the screen just went black what do i do????
none of the other DOS games did this

I have that same problem. I can't help you. Im just as stuck as you are?
somebody help Us!!!!!!!! :wall: :sniper: :help: :ranting:

OK ive tried everything on this forum and everything on the PDF and it STILL doesn't work. Maybe its because i have a mac.

you are using DOSBox 0.65 ?

Did you download the MAC version of DOSBOX??? :tai:

To anyone who has completed the game.
I am on the BLACK GATE QUEST for the HAMMER.
I am on the last level. I have 2 keys. Ruby and Emerald. I still can't get into the Magically held door.
I have been ALL OVER THE FREAKING DUNGEON AND THE ONE ABOVE. I can't find where these keys go. OR do I need a 3rd key to get in that door?????
Any help would be GRATEFULLY APPRECIATED! I have spent TWO days down here already!!!!!
I completed the game when it first came out, but that was along time ago. I can't find a real walkthru or hints ANYWHERE!
Thanks.
boomer12k

I loved Daggerfall and Morrowind (I think I'll give Oblivion a miss). Despite the fact that Daggerfall was called Buggerfall for a VERY GOOD reason, I sort of prefer it over Morrowind, simply for the fact that the vast number of skills allowed you to be virtually ANYBODY. Beside, DF had horses....

Now to the point: I looked at Arena, but couldn't tell head from behind as far as what to do in the first dungeon. I noticed that the number of stats were not as overwhelming as in DF. My question is: What are IYHO, the great bits about Arena vs DF/Morrowind, why should I give it a go, or why should I stick to DF?

I'm serious, I really would like to know if it's worth the hours.

NOTE (slightly off topic): DAGGERFALL DUNGEON MAP:
Left (or was that right) clicking on the map allows you to insert txt on the map pieces. DO IT. I used a system where, at every intersection, I inserted (eg) "15 Wx NW6 E11x S" meaning "Intersection 15, Exit to the west, intersection 6 to the north west, intersection 11 to the east leads to exit, now going south". I never got lost and was able to get back with ease. Just look for the smallest number/exit on your way back.
Of course it's critical that you update the previous intersection as soon as you get to an unmarked one.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Mighty Midget @ May 10 2006, 09:56 PM) [snapback]229905[/snapback]</div>Well, for one thing, it seems to be much less buggy than Daggerfall. At least, this is what I gleaned from the little I played Arena. Furthermore, the world is a much more interesting place to explore than that of Daggerfall: being entirely randomly generated, there appear small villages, temples, inns, lakes, and all sorts of dungeons - abandoned castles, tombs, etc. as you move further away from the city.

The NPCs are surprisingly less generic than in Daggerfall: they actually reveal their identity and job if you ask them about it, and their replies can be quite amusing and imaginative at times.

As for the dungeons, they are far less chaotic than Daggerfall's and, in fact more akin to Morrowind's: smaller, more "humane" - that is they look better suited to human occupation - yet rather tenseful, being much darker than in either of the sequels, not to mention that monsters have the nasty habit of spawning right behind you when you least expect it.

What else is there to say? There are quests, which can either be obtained from inn patrons or from the nobility, though the latter sort require a greater reputation. I have not begun the Main Quest yet, so I cannot inform you on it.

And if you care about graphics, know that the water effects are better than in Daggerfall (puddles of water mirror their surroundings; exterior bodies of water have ripples). NPCs change their garments according to weather.

Thank GOD they made this game a free game and it does work on dosbox and D-Fend.

I tried to download this, got redirected to AR and from there to the Bethseda "legal downloads" site, and then found the download quit after about 58%. Tried again and it happened again at about the same time (probably exactly the same--I'd had my eyes off the screen the first time).

Anyone else having this problem? Is there somewhere I can download this without getting redirected to Bugseda?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 5 2006, 03:21 PM) [snapback]246860[/snapback]</div>Yes, use eMule and search for elder scrolls arena 1.06 exe and you can download that.
The outside of towns and stuff maybe randomized, but the main quest for the staff is not.
I am playing a new character with a different race, and the dungeons and placement of pieces,
and all that are still the same.

And I discovered that you only need one of the colored keys in the BLACK GATE to open the magically
held doors.
Boomer

I've messed with the cycles, still choppy. Bout ready to give up unfortunately.


I downloaded Daggerfall a long tim ago I think. Or, maybe it was Eye of the Beholder.... I think it was at Home of the Underdogs, or a P2P.

I got mega lagg when trying to run this game in DOSbox.

Anyone know a fix ?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Michael @ Sep 30 2006, 12:31 PM) [snapback]258351[/snapback]</div>Have you optimized the numbers of cycles? Also, did you try skipping 1-2 frames?
You should be able to run it decently on even a laptop with 2 GHz through Dosbox.

Rats!
I downloaded the game 5 times from this site and when I click onto
the Exe installer at 68% it stops saying "Bad CRC .."
No idea what to do?
Any help welcomed.
Ty :kosta:

Just downloaded. No such problem here.

:wallbash:
Hi there
Again same error message :

CRC failed in ARENA\GLOBAL.BSA
Unexpected end of archive.

HELP PLS
Here is my e-mail address:
vla1111@gmail.com

Is any good hearded person able to send me the file in Rar or Zip format?
TY
:kosta:

Hurray!
I started Arena 1.06
But its very hard- many tunnels and no map.
Any clues , maps , tips are welcome!
TY :kosta:

Google for it; I don't have the map on my pc now but I once found it through some googling.

Pick up the sword in the corner of your cell first of course.

I have a simple question:
I have no idea what an Acrobat is. I read his skills in the manual, I know that it is a thief-class.
But is it really like a man walking on the wire?! :blink: I don't believe that.
Maybe someone could give me a german word? Didn't find a proper translation.

a lto of informations and help on elder scrolls can be found here:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page

I am guessing acrobat has higher skills that define characters movement ability. e.g. jumping, speed etc.

german word? well i dont' know btu i think acrobat woul dbe someone in circus oding crazy stunts high up. very agile, quick and quite strong.

Hurray
Downloaded and started the game
Lucky me

Hi, there, :brain:
Well I finished the quest of Shift gate and now I am in a strange town some like Silitude when
non stop snowing and some idiots-like people are running up and down.
I stopped them and asking where is..? but I have no any idea what to do after?
Yes, my level is 5 and I am able to kill thief and Lizard man ( hard task)
but soon became dark nite , all inns locked and the monsters again attack me.
So I am forced to hide in some corner and trembling to wait the new morning.
The only question to the masters who finished the game is : Whats the idea - generally speaking=
of this nice game.
and one more : Some idiot stated in Google that if I write down in the character sheet in all caps
the words = F..K YOU = I will gain 20 000 credits? True?

Ty in advance for yr prompt and positive help.
thankful yog :kosta:

well first off ya do some errands for the townfolk, gain a few levels, and then when ya feel up to it, ask for rumors about Fang Lair, which will send ya to Rihad, and the Queen, who will send ya further off for a staff ya have to assemble (7 pieces in 7 dungeons) to defeat the main enemy.

eh? never heard of this, so i dunno.

TY, Talin,
Today I will follow yr nice advices.
Huh!
Yr avatar is my 2-nd hero character of Clouds of Xeen.
I suppose You are master in same game also?:)
Have a good day.
Greetings
yog
:kosta:

Ok I've been playing this game made it to the shimering light and out into the city, pulled up my map and
low memory error. Lucky I had it saved twice once in the dungeon just before coming out and once in town right before the crash. I'm running windows '98 and was just playing it Ms-dos mode, took me a while to configure the mouse and sound but I have that. I've tried running it on dosbox but even with the cycles turned up it still runs too slow to bother with but at least I can see the map and save the game in that mode at 4,000 or 6,000 cycles it's take a step wait 5 seconds for computer to catch up. I've tried to put in 1-6 frame skips and that doesn't help either. About to give up and go play Ultima underworld instead.

Have you tried to run it through a boot disc? Win and dos tend to fight over the same 640 kb, regardless of extended memory.

I did try making a boot disk for it once using the one inside Arena itself and everytime I tried I got an error.

If the creation of the disc caused the error, try making one yourself. Either download one from Abandonia, or go to "add/remove programs" and create a rescue disc there, then add the drivers for mouse and sound.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Exodore_2000 @ Oct 15 2006, 07:23 PM) [snapback]261421[/snapback]</div>I remember I needed 12000 - 15000 cycles and 1 or 2 frameskips and even then it didn't run all that smoothly. Which is surprising for such an old game with such simple graphics...

Ok thanks I found an old boot disk I had used for another game that I thought didn't work anymore,
tried it on Arena and it works perfectly so the boot disk fixed the issues I had. I have to run the a executable instead of Arena but it works, just no sound now but I don't have the memory issues now. Been playing it a lot since I got it working, good game.

Please help me. :brain:
I am Battlemage , level 8 and meet the trouble:
I left the first town Silitude. But I am lost. I can not back to the town
cause I dunno where I am.
Tip: I entered a building with square-like frame . In this house I entered
4 dangerous places- the pictures and other interior is king-like. The 4 places are located at
the 4-th corners of the house.
Please help me to back to the town.
Thank in advance.
Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thankful yog.
:brain:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yog7 @ Oct 31 2006, 04:41 AM) [snapback]264451[/snapback]</div>
Not played this for a while, but if you get lost the best thing to do is fast-travel back to town.

I think what you do is... right click on the map button, and then you can travel back to town by clicking the town you want to go to.

Hey please help me i really need urgent help,i got arena working on my dos box 0.65 but it runs very slow and crappy and i don,t now how many cycles and frameskips i need to put in order to run normally,i have a pentium 4, 512 RAM, 3 Ghz and a 128 Mb video card.Please help me and if you can reply fast please do. :sos: :wallbash:

Frameskips: I would go for 1 or 2.
Optimal # cycles depends on your system (knowing processor speed doesn't even tell enough), I can only tell you that most people seem to need 15000-20000 or even more.
Start at 15000, keep increasing the number of cycles until you see that the game speed doesn't improve any further.

Using Dynamic Core can help with the speed too.

[font=Arial][size=5]Hey guys i need some help!!! when i start the game the screen gets black. I tryed to mount it on other disks but always the screen went black? :sos: :sos: :sos:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Nov 30 2006, 08:17 PM) [snapback]269501[/snapback]</div>Download Dosbox and play the game with it.

Hi there,
:brain:
The stupid old yog is asking for some tips.
Well, I am Battlemage, level 10, good trained and equiped in the first town Silitude.
I have almost all available magics and no enemy is problem for me.
But I became bored to do same activity all days long.
So pls tell me how to find the next town and/or mission.
Ty

stupid yog
:kosta:

Hi, there,

It is me - stupid yog.
I am 10 level , Battlemage, good trained and equiped with nice weapons and magics.
I am in the first town- Solitude.
Well, the Queen send me to find some man - Igriss - in his mine, stating she puts the
location in my map. But I do not find any Igriss mine.
Pls be kind and help me:
How to find this place?
Ty
Yr help will be highly appreciated.

thankful yog
:kosta:

PS: In my previous attempt I lost myself, so I am very careful
when leave the town Solitude.

Hi, there,

I am in the first town - Solitude, Battlemage - 10 level.
I have been hired by the Queen Hania to bring some Ingmis Harenssen,
a knight of Solitude back to Solitude by Tirdas 15Th of Mid Year. He is in
the Ingmis Cavern.
The problem - I have no any idea, no clue where is this Cavern.

Pls help telling me even the general direction - for example - SW or Nord or like.

Ty

yog

Hello,

My bro and I DL'd this game a while back, and managed to get a character out of the starter dungeon. It's incredibly hard to do (My bro says that starting a newbie in an extremely hostile dungeon is a bad idea) but somehow we managed.

So we're in town, and looking for a shop of some sort. And then the town guards decide to play football with us up and down the city (our character was the ball.) So we would be happy if some of you veteran players could tell us what to do, what not to do, good starting tips, etc.

If you try to open a locked door in a town (lockpicking, attacking) the guards will automatically go hostile. I can't remember anymore though if it was the lockpicking / destroying a closed door or a failed theft, maybe both.

Well we were looking for friendly people/shops but most doors were locked. ALso, it was at night. Is that a cause for the town to be hostile?

Yep, it should be. All friendly people you can meet on the streets and in bars (I think), and shops and similar are generally always open. Where you can't go in, you are usually not welcome to go in :whistling:

Well , a good strike with the sword opens the locked doors. But beware! You have no time for second due to reason explained before my post. I will tell you good place and technique how to up yr level in town Solitude.
But why no one advise me how to find the cavern of Ingris after being hired by the Queen?
Ty

You should propably ask people for directions in game ;)
Either that or look on your world map in the province indicated, if it's a dungeon you need to travel to.

And you do often get in a second strike, and a third... And many more. Just keep bashing untill the opens and you're safe from any guards that were after you. Remember to save beforehand, though. Also remember that a lot of content in this game is generated randomly.

@Doubler,
Hi, Ty for nice advices.
btw may I dare disagree with Y conc. 2-nd, 3-d and more strikes to open a closed door? As mentioned before the citizens fast transferred in beasts and attacked you when y strike the door. Maybe y are so fast but I had many bad moments when behind me some monsters attacked me. But now I am experienced and 1 strike is enough. More over I learn a magic named OPEN, so no need of any strike. You may buy this and many more magics by the Magic guil.
Well, there are some places indoor in the near buildings when one may enter and out a room full with credits and some stuff and even a place for rest. This way I find very valuable things and later sold to the Smith.
But I am bored to do same action again and again and I feel strong en. to find stronger opponents.
At last I want to recomendate the magic INvisible. Believe this simple magic saves my life many times.
yog starving to leave the town of Solitude to sweep out the forthcoming monsters. I noted ( in my training still ) courses out of the town that now the game is mercyless and it gives no time to rest. Beware.

yog

At night every town is full of monsters (they spawn with time/action). Guards appear after hitting a door for a while (with every strike there's a chance of them appearing).

If they (either guards or monsters) appear you can just continue hitting the door. If you manage to break in, they won't follow you. Of course, monsters spawn indoors :P

Many of my characters were actually professional burglars and thieves. Since it's fun (and easy to exploit) burgling nets you a huge ammount of gold and good equipment (as far as the class allows it) fast, but your character lags behind a bit. The game then is indeed mercyless in some later dungeons, while the earlier are rather easy.
Fighters on the other hand have a difficult start (assuming you don't play burgling and thieving knights :P), going into the thick of it early, but are more even in their progression. I never really played mages, mostly because the way I play Arena doesn't favor them, but I heard they're massively overpowered. They actually have spells that cut away walls... Imagine.

@Doubler
Hi, there,
As I see you're experienced gamer.
Well. I am Battlemage , level 12.
I do have all magics available.

The Queen informed me that she will write down on my map the Cavern of Ingriss. Still no find.
Eh, the game is nice , but forum community is not so nice.
Why, yog?
-Because no one member was so kind to tell simply - Yog keep South or West and thats enough.
So I am forced to stop this nice game till find the solution. I am tired to go up down in vain.

Moreover lord Xeen is waiting my heroes with mortal weapons.
yog

The dungeon should be listed on your world map, then. So not on your local map (showing buildings etc.), but on your map of the world (showing the provinces with cities etc). If you're still in Solitude you'll propably need to look at your Skyrim map.

And nobody -can- tell you where to go. Nobody can know where that dungeon of yours is ;)
Moreover, unless they suddenly started handing out dungeon quests on local maps (which would make them pretty hard to find indeed, looking at how big those maps are), it isn't a question of going 'south or north' - You'll need to travel.

The quest you mention is unfamiliar to me, though.

Dag , Doubler,

Dank je well voor yr nice support.
It is always pleasure for me to discuse with Dutch people. :kosta:
They are really nice and competent.

Well, I will do my last attempt to find that man and fulfill the quest requested.

Slaap lekker.

yog
^_^

Im just wondering how you unzip the file if you have a mac. I have a power pc mac and when i use Stuffit expander it gets an error but the folder pops up anyway but when i try to run the game i just get a blank screen.

Does WinRar work on Mac? That one can do the job.

I get Black Screen Syndrome as well... Is this even compatible with DOSbox 0.70?

when i run the program all is well but when i eventually get in the dungeon everything is slow. My mouse has like framerate 1/ sec and it's nightmare before christmas when I want to run.
I do it with dosbox.
Any help?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(HairyNipples @ Jul 18 2007, 07:50 PM) [snapback]300071[/snapback]</div>Have you tried increasing the cycles in DOSBox? Either press Ctrl f12 (Ctrl f11 to decrease) or set a higher default value in the DOSBox configuration file.

I found thew first place of staff.

How do i find that various guilds spoken in the manual? (thieves guilds, the blades...)

well...thanks
 

well i love the elder scrolls sagas but i have never tried this one, well i just wanted to say thanks for posting games like this :amused:

The review specifically said that in Arena there is NO guilds!

Also, like how things move forward - Arena based in a world called Nirn, Oblivion gives us a quest collecting Nirnroots! :) the main reason to play all the earlier Elder Scrolls games is it makes the later games make much more sense! Like Redguard takes place on Stros M'kai, and that island is mentioned in Morrowind and Oblivion, so if you played Redguard, when other games talk about a place, you can remember visiting it! really makes all the games come together into one big game world!

what a publisher needs to do is make games that are part of a bigger world and when the next game comes out it asks where you installed the previous game and links in with it, so when you get to the edge of game A, game B gets loaded in and the game continues!

that's called fanboy-ism, and in general it's considered to be gay

That aside, it would require at least triple the memory requirements of a game, or otherwise would be loading for at least 10 minutes between game-changing.

I've got the same problem with the mega lag. What optimizations do I use for Dosbox? (Sorry, I'm not very computer/tech-savvy :wondering:)

A detailed procedure is described in this post. It's applicable to every resource-demanding game out there.

Thanks! Everything is working smoothly now :D Yay :p

I actually really liked this game at first. Making my charactor and the like, and I also loved the noobie dungeon too! But... the world outside was so empty. Cities were fine, but all of that open space outside was a real turn off for me. Besides all that, though, I have a fun time playing it.

This is a pretty nice game.

I'm loving this :)

As much as I adore world and lore of Elder Scrolls, I just can't force myself of playing this, mainly because of its ultra slowness. :(

I'm waitng for Daggerfall to become freeware of abandonware. :)

It's really great. For me the freedom of action is a plus in RPGs. Actually I'll think about getting the whole Elder Scrolls series in Amazon or somewhere. The towns are really nice and the dungeons actually scary (it's the first time I find that in a RPG). And superb music, and awesome graphics for the time, and generally superb in every aspect.

I just wish there was a simpler way to switch equipped weapons. And there is one flaw in my opinion, how come weapons break so soon? It's totally crazy, you can't complete a dungeon without replacement weapons. :sucks:

What do you mean?

I tried the game twice and couldn't hold out more than 5min after creating the character.
It takes a lifetime to scroll the view and turn around. :sick:

Speed it up! The game is not supposed to be slow at all by default, and DOSBox has its functions, y'know.

CTRL + F12.

I supposed you would know the Ctrl+F12 thing. :D

This game runs in real mode so DOSBox assigns it 3,000 cycles. Cleary way too little for a 3D game.

EDIT: I've been testing different DOSBox settings. I'm finally sticking with core=dynamic and cycle=max. Actually I think the game runs a little too fast in my computer then (although I don't really know how was it supposed to run), with maximum detail depth--though you can get used to playing that fast, and that could also happen with a fast real DOS machine. My experience in this particular game is that if you try to fine-tune the cycles to get the perfect speed, it will then run too slow or too fast in different locations.

Thanks so much for having this game. Brings back alot of good memories of playing this years ago! Was such a fun game! Also, the door sound you hear in dungeons, you can also hear in some movies...used to make my friends and I laugh! Ive prolly played every class in the game, and the one to me that became the most fun was the sorcerer. Once you get your spells and get them maxed out...its amazing what you can do. I walked thru the very end of it up to Jagar and the fun commenced haha.

To bad Daggerfall isnt coming out anytime soon. I was never able to beat it due to bugs in the main quest...was fun as well.

jmccrea70,

You could always torrent Daggerfall. Abandonware is illegal too anyway, even if it's "nicer morally". So yeah... You can always do that instead of waiting (it may take quite some time). It's an awesome game.


Oh, and damn - you really made me urge to play Arena again now! And I have to thank you, as it is totally worth it.

Bethesda should really make Daggerfall available for download from their site like Arena. It's almost impossible to get hold of a copy nowadays - I still have my 1996 CD but it's scratched and doesn't work anymore :(

Interestingly Daggerfall had some really raunchy in-game books that were censored in Morrowind, like The Real Barenziah. :hihihi:

I agree. Perhaps they will in a few years, though. :)

Only a month after you posted your wish, and Daggerfall really is released for free download here: http://www.elderscrolls.com/download...oads_games.htm

Regarding the sound problem, here are the instructions I found in a version I downloaded somewhere ages ago. Worked for me :) DosBox 0.73 works nicely with this game.

1. Select “Configure Game”.

2. Select “Select Sound Card”. A list will appear. Select “Sound Blaster or SB16 (or compatible)”

3. Select “Select Music Card” and do the same.

4. In yellow letters near the top of the screen, it should say:
“Sound Blaster or SB16 (or compatible) IO:220 IRQ:7 DMA:1” for both Sound and Music. If it does not, please enter the info in under both “Change Sound default” and Change music default.

Select Done, and then Exit.

Please Help! I'm Lost looking for a Troll's Lair
 

Hi, I'm new to the game and I'm stuck on a strategy for finding my way around. I took a side quest to find and kill a troll before a certain date. The troll's lair is rumored to be North East of the village I'm in, but the location is not clear. How are you supposed to find it?

I have searched the whole country side North East of the village for a week and a half(real time) and I'm running out time to fulfill the quest. Is this the right strategy for such a quest? Do you just run around and hope you stumble on it? There doesn't seem to be any way to ask for directions to it or get rumors about it...so could someone please tell me what I might be missing in the search.

Thanks,
szaemon

Seems that the link to download this game doesn't work anymore, so I looked around and found this one.

thanks for letting us know, i will contact the reloaded crew

This game is fun, albeit too arcadish. Resting in the dungeon is nearly impossible.
btw, The sun rises on the west, has anyone noticed?

New START
 

Hi, there,
Arena is nice game. I like it. I finished Daggerfall few days ago but Arena brings aroma of the first (let say) kiss in one's life.
..
I do now quest Elden Grove. I am in a boat reaching the island where is the sacred artifact. But was forced to retreat because some black bear-like enemy attacked me with firing balls....

I will appreciate some help by goodhearted gamer(s). In 2007 I started this game but had no idea what to do so I stopped the game. I remember how dear Scatty (aka Master) tried to help me. Now I want to finish this nice game.

I do not care of colors and/or repetitive surrounding. For me the intrigue is important only.

Ty.

yoga the brave
:whistling:
:hihihi:

OFF
There are 3 my games I did not finished, but want to end now:
1. Arena
2. Shadow caster
3. Ultima 8 Pagan
To avoid any misunderstood yoga is humble Adam not Eve.:smile2:

No one play or remember this nice game?
Hmm, so bad..

OK.
I did it the Elden Grove quest before 1 hour.
Beware: To withstand these fireballs at island use Resistance against fire potion.
I am a Thief and not Spellcaster.

New beware: I was in very difficult position when finished the quest.
Because I was virussed by some disease, some Red ...
I have not Cure disease. So my every attempt to back to some capital town was unlucky and I died.
What to do?
In Daggerfall in same case I traveled by foot veeeeeeeeery long distance.
Now I choice very near small town Glenport or like, entered, found Magics Guild, pay for Cure disease and voilaaaa.

Sadly I have no music, no sound.
I do use DosBox ver. 0.74 with my 32-bit 7 Ultimate.
Great. I start Install.exe and followed instruction of the post. All did correctly. I am using very nice Philips headphones listening to Jango radio in this very moment. But no Music, no Sound.
This is very embarrassing.

crying yog the brave:hihihi:

I played this game a couple of times, but I didn't finish it either of them. But it's a great game (I haven't finished Morrowind either). I don't remember the Elden Grove, if ever I reached it.

Exploit: you can find the Oghma Infinitum as many times as you want (hence the name) to make your attributes super human. Actually any artifact can be re-found provided you don't have any equipped.

All the information you may want, and then some, can be found in the Elder Scrolls wiki:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Arena

the brave advance
 

:smile2:
Gracias, señor Japo!

You very kind.

Quest the Elden Grove is 2 level quest.
In first You enter a green place but with strong fog.
Only white wolves attacked You.
In the next level the hero found a boat and with boat visited an island. In this island is the 3-th artifact aka piece of scepter of Chaos.

Thank You for advice for Oghma Infinitum.

I need more money to buy potions because being a Thief class I am not so familiar with the magic spells. I have to buy these ones from the Magics Guild.

yoga the brave
:whistling:

SOS SOS dear all!!
 

Help, plz!

I can not continue the game. Rats!

Well, the info:
I am class Thief. I have good supply with me. Levitation, Invisible, Healing, Protection against fire potions, Cure poison, and many more.
- I do my 5-th quest - The Halls of Colossus-first part. "The tablet"
I found the table and start back way through the water canals. After a while I was unable to swim more and died.
The place in question is just ordinary turn!? Why? Maybe this is underwater rock or swimming sands? But before 5 minutes I passed this place in reverse direction without any problem?!?
No enemy(ies) around.
Duno..
I am healthy, I carry 35kgs only from 140 kgs .
Very strange.
Have no steel dagger of Passwall.

I beg for help.

shipwrecked yoga:smile2:

I make new and new attempts to cross this magic line, no result.:no:
The feeling is as something hold me with invisible web.
This is second left turn from starting point (before my jump into water).
When I reach this point, I see the blue water, but map shows brawn land? It is not fair, Mrs. creators.
I see some boy how smash the walls as woodpecker.
Maybe I have to start again the game? and have this Passwall? Hard decision.
Can some just tell that no way here?
Mama mia!
:picard:
I try Opening, Levitation, Free action, even Invisible, NO!
I start with 100% Mana and Health, No und No.

Bad times for me, really bad.

Please Please Help
 

:palm:
I am desperate.
Can some expert just tell me-
-No, yoga, you can not pass this point without Passwall.-(this point is second turn in water after finding of the Tablet - quest 5 , The Halls of Colossus) and I will start again this game choosing another class hero who will have this famous Passwall, which can drill the walls as woodpecker?

I beg for advice, please.
Just one word - No or You can do it.

This year I did 11 games:
1.Ultima Underworld II - The labyrinth of worlds
2.Ravenloft
3.Stone Prophet
4.Elder Scrolls 2 – Daggerfall
5.Fallout 2
6.Fallout 1
7.LBA 1
8.Baldur Gate 1
9.Baldur Gate 2
10.IWD 1
11.IWD 2 (last battle still to be done)

12.Elder Scrolls 1 - Arena????:blush:

Pls, help yoga the brave to finish this year with 12 passed games.

Thank You for your time and help.

Yoga have you looked anywhere else for the solution? You know on the internet.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:The_Halls_of_Colossus

See if that helps you.

Yes, dear DarthHelmet86,

I did. Pls see down the relevant quotation from the link You provide me.

"On the third level, you enter in the north center. The tablet is in the southwest. Passwall can be a big help, as can levitation. Without Passwall, the way is tortuous, and you will have to do some always-dangerous swimming to get where you want to go."

My problem is that at some water place I am unable to swim more, drown and died.
Simply the place became suddenly swimming sands and yoga is no more movable. Still I am able some times to back to my start point but this is not solution..I have to pass this point or cancel the game.

Maybe this is a bug?
OK, it is not problem to DL another version of Arena ( now I am using the Bethesda files).

I am totally desperate because I do not see my fault!
No! The game and monsters are not problem for good tarined and equipped yoga the brave. I have good reserve of Healing and so on potions and advanced very fast. Just this fail now.

You know me I am very tenasious player. Not novice and this my favorite genre RPG.

Thanks a lot, dear mate for encouraging me.

I greatly appreciated your help.

:palm:

Why you need 12 games completed enigmatic yoga ?

8 miles high
 

Perché?
Strange question, clever Caro Capo.
:smile2:
You know that all in this world is equal to number 12.

Well, if the brave kill the twins in IWD2 (soon he will) and pass this f....d point in the Arena water canal yog will be proud to say:
--Mates, the humble but brave yoga finished 12 games during the year of 2011 WITH valuable and kind support of:
Caro Capo aka the Clever
twilight the Mage
Scatty the Master
Kmonster the Wizard
Hunvagy the Prof.
and many more (pls excuse me)
That's why..
ha ha ha
off
One more word: Our nice friend from sunny Italy has many virtues, but one Vice: He is fan of Juve, not Lazio!! :sucks::D
not off
Now seriously: Any ideas are gut if help me to pass this damned stopping point.

yoga
crying all the day
with broken heart
fallen as angel:3:
Yes, my tears sank my PC with mouse, keyboard and my cat Mimi. Only monitor is still alive..
Tragedy....

:smile2:
Well, my next step will be to DL and try another version of Arena hoping that this point will be passable.
If not I will start again the game with class which will give me possession of famous Passwall.
:OK:

Love is all we need
 

The story continued...

I did Dl of Arena version 1.6 from AB.
The first version was Bethesda present.
Then Install, alles. Then added the save files before my stop. Then DosBox 074, then start. and then....yes
Biiiiiiiiig zero. Ha ha ha
The game frozen - probably second version do not accept these save files.

So, yoga started again the game but now as Knight hoping that this race will have this Dagger of Passwall

Let the Sun shines!!

:hihihi:

:whistling:

OFF
But where is Paco the Great?
Holiday, crank or what?

I'm pretty sure Paco the Mighty is delighted with your triple post Yoga the Brave. :D

:whistling:
Sure, He will be, dear BranjoHello,
But what to do?
You say "triple post".
The reason is "because no one play Arena i am forced to answer myself as an idiot," добар пријатељ.

But really Paco is good one. I remember many hard moments when He helped me:
- In lava fields of Xeen, in Chinese riddle of Ultima 8 Pagan.
Thanks to Paco we are able to play games in this nice site.
If i am millionaire as Rockefeller I will give 1 mill. to AB staff for Christmas day..
Sadly I am just ordinary stupid peasant from Bulgaria.

Soon I will show my progress in Arena with pictures.

OFF
First snow!! Great!! All is white - peoples, trees, houses, streets even the birds. One of my favorite seasons. :D

Can some one tell me when and how I will have this Dagger of Passwall?
TY.
:3:

On the road again - Canned Heat
 

:DProgress

Thank YOU for any info about Passwall

the brave

:)

Stone keep - Instruction
 

I did the sub-quest Stonekeep. This is 2-nd quest.
How? Easy.
But first You have to buy at least 2 potions of Levitation from Magic guild. Total - 250 golds. or 230 - rebate.
Shift+M for Big map. Horse and voilaa.Enter Stonekeep.
Inside hit West, enter the room with 8 doors, jump in last room, no enter battle with 8 skeletons.
Nice. Now activate Levitation, land, but not on the center of the island, but after bridge. Save. Back to bridge, kill 2 minotaurs (or like), carefully enter the central place, kill the last monster and take the valuable stuff. Do not cry, one of cases can not be open at all. I beat it with hammer, axe no result. Now activate second Levitation and back to coast.
Carefully! 8 skeletons are still alive. I killed all of them to find good things.
End. No need to explore all map.
But this is my opinion only. If You are explorer, do it.
Beware: This instruction is for race Knight Only!
And the brave shows the shortest possible way.
My equipment and condition are shown on above picture.
:whistling:

Q: Dear Master Scatty, what if I kill the peaceful citizens in Rihad city?
Some troubles with city police? In Daggerfall I have no problems. Sp.

Arena is very extreme, though choice brave Yoga.

yoga agony
 

:hihihi:
Absolutely true, Caro Capo, but the brave is though also.

I will try all possible and impossible ways but will defeat final evil. You know me very well from 6 years, i suppose.

Only one game beats the brave.
Stupid Prince of Persia 4 or like - I did it 80% but I had to do some task for limited time period. I did it. Then new similar task. The brave did it again. I hate these limited time tasks very much. But when same 3-th task appeared brave simply execute command Del and tutto la finita.

You know and play Arena?
If Si, pls advise me in hard moments.
If this damned trick of the game to stop me in the water canal is overcome, yoga now will be winner.
Believe me. This is not my mistake, because I do all things correctly.
I know somebody smiled and think " Ha ha ha at last braggart is down."
With 11 finished hard games the brave is not braggart but dedicated gamer.
My problem for last time:
- Quest N 5: The Hall of Colossus.
To do this quest yoga have to bring some Tablet. This is sub preliminary quest.OK. I prepared and started. With NO any problem the brave reached the coast and had to cross some water to find the Tablet in question. Very well. Yoga jumped in the water, swim to the point, left water, killed 1-2 monsters, answered correctly to the door riddle (Sun) and took the Tablet. Short rest and back. Jump again in the water and swim back. NOTE: After second turn the problem appeared.
Suddenly, as I swim, (I am good swimmer, I can reach 12 meters underwater with flippers only and 40 meters underwater with aqualung), something stopped me, I drown and died. What is this? No one can answered. Maybe trick, maybe bug? Who know?
I tried all possible known tricks, potions, jump, No.
The worst thing is that I do not know the reason of problem. My old friends Scatty and Kmonster are not here, twillight the Mage is busy and Hunvagy (he is my last hope) not visit my thread.
Pls understand me, I am really brave and sent away many evil monsters. But now the problem is technical and do not depend on yoga knowledge and possibilities.

Save our souls.

Actually no, i havent even completed Daggerfall, when i started it i was too young i guess.

OK, Caro Capo.

It is not the first time when the brave stand up alone before the forces of Dark.

OFF
Have You snow in sunny and pretty Italy?
All BG is under snow cover.

Do You like the snow? Me - no.
:hello:

MORE INFO
 

OS - 7 Ultimate 32-bit
DosBox 074
CPU speed: 16668 fixed cycles, Frame skip at 4
yoga
redguard
Knight
Str. 75, Agi. 60 End. 72 Other parameters are not important for this race
HP 125
Gold 7 K
XP 94 K
level 9
Tower shield
Mithril Longsword (5-19 the best)
Done 2 quests
Now I am in Dungeon of Rattgalath
search of Book Ohgma Infinium
:hihihi:
any expert or simple gamer of Arena is welcome
:whistling:

Yoga advance
 

I entered the Dungeon of Rattgalath in
search of Book Ohgma Infinium.
Maybe someone will ask:
-Yoga, what is this irregular quest and how to start it?
Good question.
Well, to start this quest enter province Hammerfell and visit a town let say Rihad. OK. Now start asking some citizen - Rumors-General.
Beware: These citizens are 2 types: idiots and all knowing. Ask second ones. Be patient. The brave asked 38 times till citizen give info to visit some inn. In this inn a drunkard will ask for help. Accept it.
All is OK now.
You may start this quest. Before 5 minutes the brave passed first part of quest. I passed 4 levels. Do not afraid. The monsters are ordinary ones and not too much. No riddles, no troubles. I have to visit new location.
- yoga, why you do this quest?
-- The experts say this quest will give more Str. and so on.

Im in the northest region of italy and there is any trace of snow :huh:

I did it
 

:3:
Hurray!
The brave did sub quest Ohgma Infinium.
Very easy. The levels of second part are easy and I had 50 points for distribution.
I increased mainly Str., Agi and End.

Second quest is did also.

Mates, I have absolutely no problems with the game. It is nice game and no though at all, my dear friend Capo. Yes, believe me. With moderate armor and weapon You will be winner at 99% of battles.
I will say very humble that i am so good with the sword that when Gnoul did one strike I did 5-6 and finish the battle before its beginning.
My mouse is very sensitive and the brave hand is very sharp.
Ha ha ha
Even my cat Mimi praised me yesterday, saying:
- Master, you are better than Capo..
--No,no -answered the brave - Caro Capo is hot Italian and He is very good gamer. Actually he is a good man with little exception: He - what a sin - is a fan of j..e, my dear cat. I hope in 2012 he will goto the real team-LAZIO.

...Now the brave is preparing for quest N 3.

My dear GOD, help me to pass that bad water canal point and I will make donation to AB.
PLEASE!
The brave is Orthodox christian.
:D

Me playing Abomination currently on HARD difficulty (and extended storyline). It is not easy, even though I rised Precision, Health and the Special Ability for most of my crew to ca. 50% and start to have good weapons (like M60).
I did etwa 10 missions, and this is only the beggining against the invading Faithfulls. My atheist team of Projekt Nemesis do everything to stop them and their Brood. :umm:

:hihihi:
Borzalom, dear twillight!
:)
Welcome in my thread of Arena.
I am sure You will defeat the game even with Impossible level!
You are Hero of the Heroes and I am glad to be Your loyal fan. Believe me many bards will praise Your heroism and wisdom many years apart.

How is doing? Success after success? Bravo.
Sadly, your game is in future listing of the brave.
...but me ..sop..sop:picard:.I am not lucky like You because some strange magics stopped me. Until now the game Arena is piece of cake for the brave.
My sword is very sharp and my hand - enough strong. But I duno how to have this famous spell - Passwall which vaporize 3 layers of stones!

So this is the reason to beg GOD to help me.
Excuse me I respect every religion and belief. No matter of color of eyes, skin, religions and beliefs for me. Respect other people, respect peace. Yoga (me and philosophy) never harm the living beings.
Ich verteidige meine Gesinnung, meine demokratische Ideen.
Yes, yes the game's evil is my enemy. No mercy!!

Here I am. Someone called me by any chance?
Anyway, it's many years since I last played The Elder Scrolls - Arena, so I've forgotten many details about this game and am more familiar with Daggerfall (and Morrowind, but that's a rather different engine and game). However as far as I remember, Daggerfall is not that much different from Arena, only the former has more spell effects, metal kinds, different monsters etc., so...
Yoga, why don't you simply create a spellcaster character (one of the pre-made classes like Spellsword or Battlemage), join the Mages Guild, work your way up through quests (they already had member ranks for Mages Guild in Arena, didn't they?) and simply create a custom spell with the Passwall spell effect? Or maybe even better, with Water Breathing spell effect (should be there already in Arena), then train your magic skills a bit so the spell costs less, and pass this river point without any troubles. Or more or less like that depending on what Arena actually allows to.

That weird problem where you drown in the river might be simply you running out of stamina due to swimming too long, so when you have 0 (zero) stamina you collapse and are assumed to be an easy prey for monsters to eat you, hence this might be why you die. Maybe some potion or spell which replenishes your stamina back could help? If not the empty stamina is the problem, then I can only assume that there's some strange clipping (falling / going through solid objects like walls) bug at the spot in the river where you drown all the time. In such a case, you might try using some trainer (god mode aka invincible) or savegame editor (position changing) to move your character further up the river to where you need to.

Additionally said, it was widely known back in the 90s where Dos game were still active and running, that The Elder Scrolls - Arena would be hard to play without a magically skilled character like a Magician. It could be finished with a simple Thief or Warrior class, but it would be very hard, unlike for a spellcaster.

:D
Oh, my GOD at last hears my pleas and.....good Master appeared again...:smile2:
These are first clever advises I received till play this game.
Thank You Scatty. YOU very kind.
OK.
Let tell some details:
I finished very easy Daggerfall. Arena is not more different that Daggerfall.
- Practically for me the game is not so hard as for example Dungeon Master or saga IWD. I really enjoyed when with some fast strokes killed the poor Orcs, Gnouls and cetera. For now only Ice Golem is bad opponent but I fast lurk aside when it meet me.
I started as Thief in my first attempt and had no problem to play Arena. Now I am Knight and the situation is the same.
Sadly I am not Spell maker in both cases.

No, No stamina is not the problem. I started back road fully rested and I very carefully watch the red, middle column with Stamina.
Well, I will follow the Scatty advise to start with some pre-made classes like Spellsword or Battlemage), join the Mages Guild, work your way up through quests.) I remember this way from Daggerfall when I was member of Magics Guild and reached high rank -If I not wrong I managed about 40 spells. I use the spells Levitation and Invisible very often.

Cool.

I start again.
Ha ha ha
this is my 4-th attempt.
Xeen - 6-7 attempts. Done.
Pagan - 5-6 attempts, no result.
Never forgot the moment when the brave moved in invincible ball through lava river. Fantastic. Or Chinese riddle.

Hy, pogodi Boss!!
:smile2:

yoga the brave

:smile2:
I started again Arena.
Now I am Spellsword, 3-th level,
I have spell book with first 2 spells - Fire dart and Light Heal.
Comparing with Thief and Knight I am not so strong warrior but this is compensated with more spell casting abilities.
Still in Dungeon but very soon I will be out.
Still accumulate XP and like.

:smile2:
Now I am Spellsword, 6-th level.
I did sub quest Stonekeep. Yes, using my shortest way.
Before me is Fang Liar.

But I have to work more on spell preparing because this is let say a new sphere of activity.
In Daggerfalll I simply bought the spell wanted.
twillight, what about these spells? Do You know it?

Dear and kind Scatty, would be so kind to share with me your memories about Morrowind. Your evaluations?
Thanks.

OFF
Do You have big snow? 'bout 50 SM? More?

Well, I've never actually played any Elder Scrolls game, but I can read, and the descriptions of the game says it is actually an independent lenght game, what means you should buy what you ike, and if you don't like it, just go and grind in some random quests for other spells.

And no, here we only had some half cm snow at Dec.22.

But some good news: I've reached in MY game the Act called "the Brood" / "Die Brut" (or how I backtranslate from hungarian: The Species). It starts to be damn hard (but at least I have 2 Colonels already!), but at least I've translated all ingame documents this time (there are lots of 'em)!

Hurray! I have the spell PASSWALL
 

Yes, I have this spell already! How?
Very easy - simply visit Mages Guild and for 1200 golds I bought it.
Ha ha ha
I plan to use this spell in desperate situation - it just vaporize 3 layers of stones.
Now i am prepared to enter Fang liar.

@twillight - 1/2 cm snow only? Here - min. 20 cms snow.
Hey, Mage, your game is Civilization like? Build town or colony with all activities inside and when ready attack surround enemy colony? Master of Magics?
Why do YOU translate these docs? This is official work for AB or game requirement? Do You play in some thread here or not?
I am surprised that You, so great Mage, never played TES? Have to.
:3:
OFF
My countryman from Manchester United Dimitar Berbatov again made hattrick (3 goals per match) against Wigan Athletic.
:smile2:

Guys lets keep the Off Topic stuff out of the thread please. If you want to talk to each other about this stuff make a new thread and enjoy. Or PM each other.

:3:
Rodger that, dear DarthHelmet86.

Yes, we know the rules but some times -Y'now that monotone - Where is the ring? Who is the boss? - boring me.
Very, very,very little of off topic bring this fresh air of our conversations.
Moreover only one day of the year is Christmas day.
:hihihi:

OK, no more off topic, I swear.
......................
So, the brave just finished the quest 2 and prepared for next one.
Please pay attention of my picture of my present condition.

Morrowind has great (for it's time) graphics and very interesting and detailed world, which is more interesting to explore than in Daggerfall. However mages are much weaker in this game (without mods), spellcasting is not very strong unlike in Daggerfall. Being a vampire sucks a lot, unlike in Daggerfall where you're a god being one. Sorry for off-topic, last one here.

Making custom spells has the same benefit in Arena as in Daggerfall - you can tailor them to your needs and as as result they can cost less and bring more, if you create them strategically. For example, the same Water Breathing spell (or whatever it's called in Arena) vs. custom spell with Water Breathing effect - with custom spell you can lower the duration for quickly passing some swimming-necessary areas, after which it expires. No need for it to last all that long as the pre-made spell does, right? As a result, it costs less mana, or magic stamina or whatever, which can bring you more benefit.
So it takes some thinking and time creating custom spells, but can be worth it. Buying pre-made spells is easy and fast - buy and fire away. If you like more control over what you're casting, go custom :p

:OK:
Kindly thank You for above info and your time.
Here are my spells which I simply bought from Mages Guild:
1. Fire dart
2. Heal
3. Invisibility
4. Levitate
5. Light heal
6. Orc strength
7. Resist cold
8. Wizard fire
9. Passwall

I need one special custom-made spell to keep my back save from attack behind me.
But... my laziness is not small problem.:smile2:
A little problem is NO music and sound even I did correctly all settings. But I am using headphones and I have great MP3 collection.
I am entering now The Labyrinthia - the 3-th quest.

yoga

I DID ! HURRAY!!NOCH EIN MALL!!!
 

:3:
Yes,
the brave is pleased to announce that this damned stop point in the water canal after tablet IS passed.
Well, I do nothing for this operation. Probably the game, knowing I have Passwall, was afraid and not trick.
Ha ha ha
:lol:
I want to express my kind thanks to dear Scatty aka the Master, who directed me to change the race with Spellsword one, who may posses this magic Passwall.
Excuse me all, but for me Scatty is the best staff member.
Pls, I do not want to insult other members.
This is my personal feeling only. Anyway I know this man from 7 years and He is the reason to stay so much time in AB.
Scatty, I begin to feel that maybe Arena is better than Daggerfall. In a meant time the brave will try Morrowind.
If I am not wrong Morrowind is the name of one province in Arena map.
:D
-Where am I?
Prepared to enter the Halls of Collosus - 5-th quest in the game from total 10.

yoga

I promise to do short explanation of the
important stuff in the game.
Really enjoyed playing this game, dear Capo.
No, not so hard as You probably think.
I recommend that every player after 8,9 level to do Ohgma Infinium test. This act give the player 50 points for distribution, which is great help.. I did it.

I guess it is debatable if The Elder Scroll - Arena is better than Daggerfall.
Anyway, well done dear Yoga, due to your determination you sure deserve the title Warrior of the Games :D

SP - HNY 12
 

:hihihi:
Thank You for good words and encouraging me 7 years!
Thank You for the title.
ha ha ha
:whistling:
Concerning which game is better maybe after finishing Arena I will be able to present my arguments, but pls see one of them:
-I must pay money for transportation in Daggerfall and no payment in Arena. Correct?
-If virused (I was) the transportation is not possible or You die during it. I was forced to move step-by-step 30 minutes till reach save Temple in Daggerfall. The long road was about 90% of map size. Can you imagine?
But...but... There are no friends of color and taste.

At last with a kind permission of dear DarthHelmet86 I want to wish You and all my relatives and friends in AB HNY 2012!

AB for Ever!!

yoga the brave
:thanks:

Five quests over already. Only 5 left.
 

The humble but brave yoga is pleased to say that before 3 minutes only completed the 5-th quest. The Hall of Colossus.
For first time I will say - not easy quest.
-Why, yellow dog?
-- No, no I am not coward, but I forgot to buy Potions against Shock. So in the last third level I met very strong Homunculi without this protection. But yoga is veteran in RPG. I simply goto Invisible mode, approached calm monster and hit with Ice bolt, then few strikes with Steel Longsword. Voilaaaaaaaa!:lol:

Note: Press F2 to know yr coordinates. The first digit is ordinate, and second is abscissa. Hope You have good mats records? Duno? OK. Ordinate is axis Y, till abscissa is axis X.
But yoga is not mats teacher but brave warrior.

My second problem was nearly fatal. Yes.
These damned rats virused me with Plague
and I was terrorized. If krank, no transportation possible.
Gladly I have one curative potion.
So, NEVER start mission without some curative potions.

Scatty, Arena is really nice game, believe me, Master.
:3:

N 7 -> 3 more quests left
 

:D
The brave is pleased to say that before 3 minutes only completed the 7-th pre-quest "Mines of Khuras".
Then I will start the real N 7 quest, four-level Crypt of Hearts.
-Easy, yoga?
--Not at all. After quest 5, I feel how the resistance against me increased rapidly. The old good days when the brave crushed the opps with Longsword finished. Now I have to use all tools of victory: Spells and sword, my full power etc.
..For example I met the terrible Stone Golem..
And... yes, I got it!!
The battle was long and bloody. I used mainly the Crystal of Life stealing- About 5-6 times, hitting the monster with my Mithril longsword and Help spell.
I am level 12 Spellsword, armed with the best available weapons but my defense is not so good as has to be. Anyway I progressed. Soon I will present detail picture of my condition. Sadly, no one play that game in the moment. Even the Mage from Hungary - twillight - the Bold Hearth.
But now I need luck entering four-level Crypt of Hearts.
:D
Master Scatty, in Daggerfall I received inexplicable full superiority and that monsters were pieces of cake.
In Arena the situation is absolutely different.
Until during first 5 quests I run like a bird in the sky, from 6 quest Я feel that the time for passing quest is bigger and opps stronger.
I have no fantasy for final battle!
Probably range Nightmare as in Doom 2.

yog aka spellsword:hihihi:

before 6 artefact
 

:D
The brave will enter after minute the last fourth-level of Crypt of Hearts.
-Easy, yoga?
-- Hmmm, if my friend Kmonster was yoga, He will kindly laugh and say nothing. But he is not here....:3:
Mates, this quest is very though. The protagonist has to deal with Homunculi, Wrath and other svoloch (bad monsters).
Master Scatty, I will take my words back - Arena is not easy game at all.
Anyway, not so hard that our Caro Capo can not finish.
Till now the harder level was 2-nd. I avoided battles with superior enemies but dig as real miner.
Ha ha ha
yoga the miner
Passwall is very nice spell, believe me, and Invisibility also.
God bless Master Scatty for nice advise to change the race!!

yog aka spellsword:hihihi:

OFF
Mates, I tried 4 times to enter my lovely site AB yesterday 1.1.12 but failed. Maybe the site was under repair or reconstruction?

N 8 - two more quests left
 

:D

The brave is pleased to advise You that before minute he finished Crypt of Hearts.

My thoughts of this quest will be written in my memories.

:hihihi:

:smile2:
Many traveling bards will sing a song for this great victory!

the brave before quest 7
 

Crypt of Hearths

One of yoga metamorphosis as
flying Dragon.

ha ha ha

You wish :D
Anyway, isn't there also a Shield spell(effect) in Arena, like in Daggerfall? If you train the responsible school of magic so it costs little to cast, it will cover many physical blows you would have to otherwise suffer. As much as I remember, high armor class plays not more role in Daggerfall as it does in Arena, speak - no matter how high your armor class you should get hit pretty often. Not sure about the elemental protection spell effects, might be they weren't introduced in Arena yet.

:hihihi:

Yes, Master, I wish to be.:3:
Y’now I like humor and smiling as idiot in all my posting.
You are again correct concerning spell Shield. Pls see enclosed list of yoga used spells:
Fire dart
Fire storm
Free action
Heal
Ice bolt
Invisibility
Levitate
Light heal
Meduza gaze
Open
Orc strength
Pass wall
Resist cold
Resist fire
Shield – I use this spell very often.
Strength leech
Wizard fire
9 - this is new spell I did and it is Spell reflection.

Yes, Master in Daggerfall I entered different Magic Guilds and increased my rank completed some tasks from their boss. And I have choice to transfer my simple weapons in magical one and make custom spells. No such style in Arena.
Note: I do not buy spell Resist Shock because I have Mithril sword of Resist Shock – nice weapon when battle with Homuncyli.

Armor class - well, in Arena there are around my body digits with symbol Minus. Now mine are -10 to -14. Increased digits means increased defence.
Yes, no elemental defence, but in Arena we have no elemental attacks, if I am not wrong.

More details: level 13
Str 58 Health 120
Int 100 XP 750 K
Wil 78 Gold 24 K
Agi 63
Spd 63
End 66
Per 54
Luck56

Q: I did max Int 100 = 150 magic points
Whats are other important characteristic to increase as a Spellsword -> Spellcaster from above.
What is your advise, dear Kmonster?
Danke sehr.
This is the only Q for this game .

:D

Well as far as I know, Willpower increases your chance to resist a spell cast by enemy at you, in 10-level range. So at 70 you'd have (I think, not sure right now) +6 resist, at 78 still +6, and 80 +7, at 90 +8 and so on. Might be worth increasing that one.
More Endurance means more life points when you level up, but increasing it later does not add up missed points from levels before, so you might want to increase your endurance as early as possible to not miss on bonus points.

:sneaky:
Wow, this is real nice answer. Valuable for me.
Dear Scatty, English words Thank You are already rub out because of their billion usage so with kind permission of Nice AB staff I will use my native to express this feeling Благодаря!
Yes, I will add points to Willpower.

The last communique from battle field:
- Yoga the brave just finished usual pre-quest
Vaults of Gemin.

Unfortunately, many of my swords and Crystals are slightly used. Armor also.
So the brave decide to transfer above mentioned stuff to repair and started another quest. To find some ring and save nice Princess from bad gnome. The legend tells that after her rescue the Princess fall in deep love to yoga because of his blue nice eyes. :smile2:
..Gladly I found an Amulet with +25 Strength.
Yes, it has to be de magic in Magics guild before usage.
But this quest is not easy at all. Now I am at level 3
and no ring at all.
In pre-quest yoga met 5 enemies in a hall. 3 Wraiths and 2 Homunkulies. All were send to better world, but I was as a panther, jumping from one enemy to other. The Wraiths are immunized to Invisibility what did my fight more schwer.
Really this game increases the difficulty along with levels. No same style in Xeen or Ultima 2 or even saga BG 1,2.

Q from gallery:
-brave, pls, what do you do, when you not playing games.
--Wrong question because the only activity of so named the brave is gaming.:smile2:

OK, next Q:
-yoga, what to do when meet very strong enemy(ies)?
1. Lurk around the monster and run as all devils are behind You. Memo: Set yr cycles correctly and buy very sensitive mouse. Otherwise - kaput.
2. Use Invisibility and see p. 1.
3. Stand up and fight like God Krishna did in "The book of the books"
4. Ask politely the brave for Help.His lessons are free of charge.
5. If the brave answers are not usable, ask for help well respected Wizard Kmonster and/or Master Scatty.

AB has to be proud with persons like above mentioned.
I am serious as never before.
:OK:

Also consider rising Agility to evade weapon and magic attacks.

Against hard enemies:
You are a spellcaster, right? So boom&hide you should play: from far away throw in all power, then use some trick to get away to safe distance (close door, start attack from other side of chasm, turn invisible and walk away etc.) and start the fireworks again.

Actually i never started this game :mhh:

Yes? Time to.
 

:)
Friend, YOU always may rely on me if start Arena.

I will tell You many small tricks, because I deeply respect You.

I am just behind corner. Turn back and you will see one smiling person with blue eyes. This is the brave always ready to help.

:OK:

yo

Hey, boy
 

Roger that, twillight the Mage.

Yes, I do all mentioned by You actions. Otherwise your brave will be dead from many time.

TY

PS: After minutes You will receive PM from yoga.

Before 2 minutes the brave finished this additional quest.

No any nice virgin Princess but only Ring of Magics.

crying yoga

No more gaming but TV football match.

:whistling:

I am ready to start my 8-th quest with Good help.

N 9 -> 2 more quests left
 

Before 2 minutes the brave finished quest N 8 - Mirk Wood.
:whistling:
Very hard, because I met 3-5 Fire Daemons and 3-5 Meduza monsters.

No, no fight. Fire Daemon has 250 HP, till yoga has 132 HP only. Save, try and run and again and again.

Forces are not equal. I do not like this style - lurking like a rat and running like kamikaze..
The above monsters are only ones that the brave can not defeat in direct fight. But I progress and soon...:smile2:

I found 7 artifacts.
What a New Year, my God! People drink wine until the brave explore deep caves and woods!

:OK:

Try and look if there's a Banish Daedra / Demon spell(effect) (maybe Gate?.. not sure) to buy in Arena, like in Daggerfall. If there is, your battle with those fire demons might become a lot easier.

brave finished 9-th pre-quest Hammer
 

Yes, Master.
I will check and report You.
To do this pre-quest I have to eliminate Iron Golem (HP 200-300) and Fire Daemon(HP 250-350).
the brave HP = 132. And they were one after one with no chance for brave to camp or rest.
The first is immune to Spells and mundane weapons!

My tactic: I bravely attack the Iron Golem with Mithrill longsword and use Live steal spell. It worked!! After elimination of the first monster I stop and make battle plan.
First variant was: Direct fight. No result.
Second, non favorite variant: Boofed myself and lurking aside I grabbed the Hammer and run away as all devils were behind me.
Oh, susses.
:whistling:

Please, do not think that I made all these action easily as some Hercules or Ilya Murometz. (Bagatur from Russian folk).
No, some maneuver some time takes a hour or more.
:3:
Before me is 3-levels Dagoth-Ur, probably very though one.


OFF But where is friendly and competent Kmonster?

RATS!!!!RATS!RATS!
 

Zum Teufel.
I am very angry.
I did huge post, add picture of first killed Iron Golem and when I start Preview post and click on my attachment, the post disappeared!
:blush:
How is this possible???

Master, sry, No Daedra spells.
:sick::sick::sick:

Well in that case you'd probably need to create a custom spell in the Mages guild (maybe name it Ice Meteor), with Ice Damage effect with target (at distance), a really strong one, something like 20 damage initially and 8-11 damage pro (character)level or even stronger, like 12-15. Then level the appropriate spell school up to the maximum (Destruction, I think) by creating a really weak damaging spell like with 1-1 damage pro level and casting cost of no more than 5, casting it continually then sleep. That is, if training spell schools works the same as it does in Daggerfall (I hope).
After that, the strong damaging spell should cost not much more, if at all, than 5 points of magic energy, and with it your problems with those Fire Demons (being immune to Fire but weak to Ice as they should be by logic), and probably with Iron Golems too, should be hopefully solved.

Keep in mind that I'm basing these hints on my knowledge of know-how in The Elder Scrolls: Daggerfall and details might vary in Arena slightly.

In Odin will be....let find the road to home!
:smile2:
Master Scatty,
that vanished post was all spells of Spellmaking.
I will write them again to be perfect.
Just 5 minutes more.
Moment, please.
Is my translation above correct?

:)

You know my used spells from postings before .

1. Another available spells, which brave may buy from Magic Guild:

Stamina
Wonder light
Resist shock
Sanctuary
Wizard lock
Fireball
Cure poison
Spell shield
Earth wall
True heal
Silence
Witch curse
Troll blood
Wyvern sting
Resist poison
Force wall – I bought already
Pitfalls
Wildfire
Spell drain
Shalidor mirror
For silence
Life steal
Toxic cloud
Wizard rend

1. 1. 1. Spells, available from option Spellmaking (sry Master, no school in Arena)

Cause
Cont. damage
Create
Cure
Designate of non-target
Destroy
Drain attribute
Elemental resistance
Fortify attribute
Heal
Transfer
Invisibility
Levitate
Lock
Light
Open
Regenerate
Silence
Spell absorption
Spell reflection – I did it under name 9
Spell resistance


(cont.)

The very bad monsters
 

Important note:

All following text and images are copied from next address:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Monsters


Fire Daemon

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These creatures are from the netherworld, often gating themselves into our plane of existence on some errand of their choosing. They are dangerous foes, highly intelligent, completely chaotic in nature, and powerful in the ways of magic. They are resistant to fire, and are subject to attack only by mithril weapons or better. They are very dangerous to face. Fire daemons also have the ability to see invisible creatures. It is among the most dangerous creatures of Arena.
They have the following characteristics:

• HP: 225-350
• Damage: 10-30
• XP: 30000
• Abilites: Resistance to fire damage, immunity to mundane weapons, see invisible

Iron Golem
http://images.uesp.net/c/c6/ArenaIronGolem.gif http://skins.uesp.net/common/images/magnify-clip.png

Golems are creatures created by those practiced in the arcane arts. They are fashioned from a material to resemble a human form, then animated and set to particular tasks, whether that be questing for an object or guarding a tomb. There are three varieties known to exist in the land: Ice, Stone, and Iron. Any of these are dangerous, each with its own special abilities, immunities, and spell casting powers. Defeating one is a feat well worth praise, for they are very formidable opponents. The strongest of all golems, but not a particularly fearsome monster due to lack of a ranged attack. They are immune to all weapons below mithril.

• HP: 200-300
• Damage: 10-30
• XP: 25000
• Abilities: Resistance to spells, immunity to mundane weapons

Vampire

http://images.uesp.net/7/75/ArenaVampire.gif http://skins.uesp.net/common/images/magnify-clip.png

With the exception of a Lich, these are perhaps the most feared of all creatures which prowl the land. Vampires are exceptionally intelligent, very strong, and very fast. They are immune to iron, steel, and elven weapons; silver weapons do double damage, however. Vampires regenerate lost health points. Because of their reclusive nature, not much else is known about these powerful undead Lords. They have spell casting ability, the ability to see invisible creatures, and the ability to command other creatures. They are a fearsome foe indeed. Second most powerful monster after the Lich. They cast fireballs. Like trolls, they cannot be killed by weapon attacks, only subdued. They also transmit vampire diseases, but strangely they do not hurt you.

• HP: 500
• Damage: 10-40
• XP: 50000
• Abilities: Immunity to mundane weapon, vulnerability to silver weapons, fast healing, spellcasting, see invisible, transmit disease.

Medusa

http://images.uesp.net/1/11/ArenaMedusa.gif http://skins.uesp.net/common/images/magnify-clip.png


The medusa is a creature with the upper body of a woman and the lower torso of a snake. It writhes along using its hands and body to wind its way through its lair. Medusa are very strong and intelligent, and sometimes armed with a fearsome weapon. Their gaze has the ability to paralyze an opponent. Because of their magical nature, they are immune to weapons below dwarven. Third most powerful monster of Arena, after the Lich and the Vampire.

• HP: 250-400
• Damage: 10-40
• XP: 40000
• Abilities: Ranged paralysis attack, immunity to mundane weapons.

..and the final boss
Jagar Tharn

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Jagar Tharn, Imperial Battlemage of Uriel Septim VII and Arch-Traitor to the Empire. He is practically invulnerable, having secured his lifeforce in the Jewel of Fire--which conveniently lies nearby.

• HP: 500
• Damage: By spells
• XP: 100000
• Abilities: Casts spells, and puts himself in a protective force field cocoon upon his "death", making him ultimately invulnerable in melee combat.

Delete post 264
 

Dear Mod,

would be so kind to Del my duplica post N 264.

TY

Hmm, no magic schools in Arena? I was sure there were some skills provided with spellcasting classes at character creation at game start, that were specifically for magic-using ones... What else would be the difference of selecting a Battlemage or a Rogue, aside of lockpicking / stealing and weapons / armor choice?..
Got to play Arena again sometime in the close future, my pathetical knowledge about this game has shrunken unforgivable much over the time.

Guess those Vampire and Medusa are your next nemeses in the main quests progression. You'll sure have some fun :D
The translation was quite ok :OK:

Hurray!First Vampire smashed
 

Guess those Vampire and Medusa are your next nemeses in the main quests progression. You'll sure have some fun :D
The translation was quite ok :OK:[/quote]

:3:
First of all Thanks for good translation words.

Second - What do You say, Master?
Stupid yoga does not remember what was his today breakfast, his yesterday night girl, You speak about game before 4-5-6 years..
Pls, do not worry.
I am at your side when You meet some bad gay like poor Frank.:D
But third - Good news.
The brave met and killed the first Vampire.
--Easy?
---Easy because the brave is Old fox. (In my lovely country Bulgaria these words are synonym of сlever let say high-fed hooligan).
OK. Now open yr school book and write down:
- Fully charged, the brave opened the door but slightly inclined. This way I met the Vampire - Monster not face to face. It moves left-right, hiding and appearing. But It can not firing me. Nice.Now the brave used his 150 spell points by Wizard fire, Ice storm and like attacking spells. 4-5. Then the brave uncover his 5-th Ace of spades - Ebony Longsword of Firestorm with 2 K uses. 7-8 shots and voilaaa.
:D
If some one does believe me let say - I keep a file created by PrintScreen+Paint.
the brave is fair gamer. But lazy to attach this file today.
Do not forget that this is only 1 of 3 total levels of quest 9.

NOTE: one and last quest -N 10- left
 

Hurray!
:smile2:
Yes, the brave finished this morning 9-th quest - smiths of Dagort-Ur.
I have all 8 pieces of Chaos Staff.
To found this last artifact in the last level of DU I killing:
Black wolves: 4
white wolves: 6
Homunkulu: 4
Stone Golem:1
Fire daemon: 2

I will rest a little in the game ..and in the real life also.

:whistling:

Waiting for smith to repair my stuff
 

:smile2:
Because my:
Crystal of Life steal and
Mark of healing are sent to repair by Smith
and need at least 10 days time period I have to spend this time making some additional quest or so.

Then I will buy double stuff and enter Last battle.
:whistling:

brave before last battle
 

My proof I killed the Vampire, plz.

I forgot to present the beautiful
Lich

http://images.uesp.net/1/1b/ArenaLich.gif http://skins.uesp.net/common/images/magnify-clip.png



These creatures are wizards who have attempted to cheat death by prolonging their life through the use of spells and such, eventually turning themselves into a form of the undead. Few have ever faced such a creature and lived to tell the tale. It is known that they are very powerful, able to defeat high level characters easily, and able to see the invisible. They are known to have immunity to weapons below mithril, regeneration capabilities, and any other powers that would be associated with a 20th+ level mage. You are cautioned, these creatures are beings of such power that it would be foolhardy to face one without properly preparing yourself with powerful equipment or artifacts. The strongest monster of the game, second only to Jagar Tharn himself. They cast a powerful ranged electrical spell.

• HP: 750
• Damage: 10-30
• XP: 75000
• Abilities: Spellcasting, self-healing, immunity to mundane weapons.

I am still level 14 with 132 HP.
Gold 20 K
My operative town is Rihad.

NOTE: The text and image of the Lich are copied from:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Arena:Monsters:smile2:

The Final battle of the brave
 

Yep,
the final battle is before me.

I entered the Imperial Palace fully prepared and I am going to kill that Jagar Thatrn with God help.
:hihihi:

Last minute communique from battlefield:

The brave successfully passed level 1.
Killed 2 Wraiths and 2 Knights.

(cont.):D

Last minute communique from battlefield:

The brave successfully passed level 2.
No fights. No casualties.

(cont.):D

Last minute communique from battlefield:

The brave successfully passed level 3.

No fights. No casualties.

- Zum Teufel, yoga, how did y pass 3 levels in the Imperial Palace, so dangerous place?
--- Amigo dear, so named brave has head on his shoulders and...yes.. he used it.
OK. I will tell my secret trick:
When enter some level I evaluate the road to exit but not using open road but digging in the wall as mole. Simple but effective method.
Note: You have to have Longsword or Steel dagger of Passwall in case you have no mana.
Kapish?

:OK:
Friends, wish me luck.
Yoga is in last 4-th level of the last quest.
Last battle is ahead.

I am serious as never before.

Physically and mentally I am ready for the last moment of Arena.
Do not worry for proof(s).
:)
(cont.):D

Yoga if you are going to br posting this in parts please just edit the last post and add it in there. Unless someone else has posted in the thread that is. Doubly so when you know you haven't finished the with that post.

:smile2:
Rodger that , dear DarthHelmet86.

Sorry, I want to show step by step my victory.

Del duplica posting. 2+3
YOU have the right to edit as You want according to AB rules.:smile2::OK:

That is no interesting, because brave just won the game!!

Hurray, I did!

No, no last battle. I totally ignored this stupid idiot Jagar.

OK - I will explain some secrets for new gamers.
-The last battle scene is small island in lava. 4 closed rooms in the island. In the middle of the island is above idiot. In all 4 ends of the lava are located 4 liches.
Master Scatty, i killed 3 of them and was lazy for last. Well.
I entered lava section, use Invisibility and Levitate spells then opened by Passwall 2 rooms. No Jewel. Then I understand the northeastern room is the room with gem. Then I opened by passwall northwestern room with Mithril key and then very carefully opened that last room with gem Jewel. Another is history!!
Hurray! 3 times for the brave..
Ha ha ha

Nice and nice game - bet that is better than Daggerfall.
Pls, excuse my excitement.

Proof
 

- No, y, stupid yoga, lie for end of the game.

yoga never lie. This is under my dignity, amigo.

See attachment picture to hear thankful ruler.

fair yoga aka the brave

:3:

PS: Very soon yoga will present his humble game preview if this is not against the AB rules.

My Thanks to every helper, friedns and complete AB of course.

Congratulations Yoga, well done :OK: However that was sneaky to run way from the final battle, even if completely legal :p

Bravo of the humble, but brave
 

:bleh1:
Thanks, Master Scatty!

As usually YOU are absolutely right. After decreasing of my excitement in a mean times I will enter battle with Jagar Tharn, promise You.
But some commentators said He is immortal?
So You want to send your best friend and fan to real dead.
:hihihi:
OK. Gnadige Kmonster sent me 3 years before to dead in lava section in Xeen, now You send me in this lava island. Bravo!! Very good.

Stop, stop I am joking of course.:whistling:
I will try direct battle with final boss.
But before that battle I promised a short preview of the game and will start imm. till all is fresh in my mind.

Now I am drinking my sweet wine and enjoyed this victory remembering again and again final actions of the brave.

BTW this game give me full management of the spells especially when I (fully equipped, invisible, flying started drilling of some wall) with remarkable spell Passwall - nicely - Master, I want to tell YOU again a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig SP for advise to start with race which use magics.
Many time You pull out the stupid yoga from mud. Remember Ultima 2, FO2 ?

Preview
 

Short preview of the game Arena
Bethesda Software, 1994
Author yoga,
January 2012
I started game at 12 Dec 2011 and finished 7 Jan 2012 as Spellsword level 15.
Total 25 days. About 5 hours gaming every day.


Arena Version 1.06
DOSBox 0,74
Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit
Frame-skip: 3
CPU speed: 16668 cycles
Ctrl+8 → increase frame-skips; Ctrl+7 → decrease frame-skips
Ctrl+12 → increase cycles; Ctrl+11 → decrease cycles
I have no sound and music, even I strictly followed the instructions. Sry.
Problems: minor – 5-7 times freezes in command Save. One time – Insufficient base memory


Note: Before to start I want to tell that I am not some superman, who pass the game for 30 minutes. No, I am ordinary gamer, maybe middle class.


My first choice of the hero class was Thief. Wrong choice. As Thief I reached quest 5 and was freeze in water canal. Then I return and choose new race Knight. Wrong again. As Knight I reached quest 3 and understand that my choice is again wrong. Wrong because these races are not Spellmakers and have no nice spell PASSWALL. What do this spell? This spell simply vaporize 3 layers of stone walls one by one. So I started again Arena as Spellsword. Very clever.
Thanks to my Master aka Scatty.
So, pls do not start the game being No Spell maker.


Do not hurry and run as crazy man.
Be clever and evaluate the situation.
Do not search any logics in game actions. No.
The enemies come from nowhere and attacking.
Very often from behind and very often as a pair.
Do not be greedy and collect all stuff you found.
After quest 4 or 5 do additional quest Oghma Infinium.
This quest will give you 25 distributive points.
Distribute these points wisely. How?
Your important characteristics are mainly Int and Wil.
And Agi. Remember their max is 100 points.
If you have max 100 points of Int, this means 150 spell points.
So 12 points for Int, 9 points for Wil, and rest for Agi.
How to have this quest? Enter Rihad town in Hammerfeld province.
Ask some citizen for Rumors – General. There are two kind of citizens.
Idiots-who know nothing and wizard- who know all news.
Ignore idiots and start patiently asking. I receive correct answer after 27 questions.
S(he) will tell some about a man in some inn for Oghma Invinium.
Find this man in that inn and tell Yes. Voilaaa.

You have the quest.
The quest is bi-parts quest. Every part is from 4 levels.
You want to move?

Press Shift+M. The target town. Then horse.
Make Rihad town your camp town? Why?

Because there is Inn very near to entrance.
This inn have no signboard! Right, then left, you will see huge baobab and very near is inn.
Do this and remember this inn.

After a while you will said: thank you yoga.
Try to be always with max full HP and mana.

Stamina is middle column and no important.
Do not save the money for hard days and buy enough Healing potions
and other from Magic Guilds.
For example I enter last battle with 50 Healing potions and about 20 potions of other ones.
Try to be always with new armor and weapon.
Know that Crystal, Mark etc can be repaired by Smith.

Work with one smith and Magic quild-these in Rihad.

You may repair some weapon till you complete the quest.
The artifacts are 8. Quests – 10. If you are short of money, you may rob some rich houses.
But enter in very fast or town police will attack you. Sell duplicate stuff.
Very valuable are: Longsword of Passwall and Crystal of Life steal!!!
Battle tactic: Avoid any possible battle with superior enemy(ies). Very important:
Try to locate enemy after corner at safe distance when it appeared and disappeared.
Like dancing ballerina. Nice. Now hit it by bow or spells. I smashed 4 Liches-very strong
monster (750 HP) till I have 132 HP by my Ebony Longsword of Firestorm with 2120 uses.
The lich was down after 9-12 hits with this sword.
Read and know the characteristic of every monster.

Where? Google, amigo.
Why Passwall is so worthy?

You know that the only road ahead is full of
many monsters and mission is impossible. Do not cry.
Start Passwall and as mole create bypass road after monsters.
Elementary, Watson!
Use F2 to know where is artifacts.
The long round roads are safely always.

Do not use shortcuts, No.
Do not be silly when camping to use –Until fully healed – NO.
First 1 hours. Save. Now 2 hours. And so on.
How to eliminate Trolls. Kill it and Camp for 0 hour. Yes, zero.
This way you eliminate this nasty monster. No Fireball as in BG.

• Yoga, I dunno when I am invisible?
• Click on the button with Snake. And when Invisible yr portrait is more dark

Fight? I press RMB and moving very fast the mouse left-right without interruption.
This will be effective with good mouse and good CPU setting.
Search for every dead enemy even spiders. No rats.
Always I repeat always have with you min 3-4 curative potions. If some monsters virused you, you can not travel with horse and the game is finished for you, believe me.
When ill , your portrait will changed the image! Beware.
Some time the tunnels are your solution. But do not think they are very save.
Do not hurry and make your battle plan evaluate all details.
The game is no so hard and You have very good and easy spells.


I reserve the right to change in 10 day period above preview.
Feel free to add new info in my preview.
Of course all my rights are kindly transferred to sweet AB site.

Good work Yoga, whats the story of this Jagar ?
The background of the TES series is pretty interesting.

:3:
You know the game storyline, Caro Capo?


Very nice, very nice game!!!!

Yoga yoga yoga, come on man a little thinking before you post, giving away the whole games storyline in a post and not putting it in Spoiler tags is not on. Next time just remember not everyone wants to know the story, so slap some tags on it and keep them happy.

Hmm, I'm not so sure the text could be classified as a spoiler, as it seems only to recite the story introduction text from the game manual... which wasn't ever meant to be a spoiler :p

:hihihi:

Still that means he could have just directed Capo to read the manual, or paraphrased it. Huge wall of text is huge. :p

:omg:

:smile2:
Friends,
instead of sharping our swords for new heroism and rescue the human being once again we.... ha ha ... just waste valuable time.

I respect the AB staff. Yes, they are so lovely people, who correct my ....:mischief:

..
Master, this Jagar is immortal as Kashchey..
I tried some fights and reduce its HP but not enough.

OFF
Sadly now I am in sewers of Barselona to search for some Enrique.:smile2:

Everything and everyone has it's / his critical weakness, just as Kashchey had... you would know :p

:bleh1:
Rodger that dear Master Scatty.
Я все знаю (=I know all).
Arena + Daggerfall are en. for the brave.
:thanks:

I replayed both Arena and Daggerfall myself last year to prepare myself for Skyrim. Both are great games. I got very lucky in Arena because I found a Longsword of Firestorm with more than 10,000 charges in the very first dungeon. It almost lasted the entire game and then I found another one.

Only flaw of the game is that magic is so powerful. It becomes almost impossible to finish with a pure warrior (it is possible, but requires use of millions of potions).

A magic aligned character has a very easy time - with true invisibility spell + shalidor's mirror (reflect magic spell) even the most dangerous enemies are very easy to defeat.

:smile2:
Dear Virumor,
I am thanking You for this nice and correct posting. You really is very lucky man to find in the beginning this Longsword of Firestorm with huge 10 000 uses. Wow!
I found 2 similar longswords but with 1600 and 2120 uses respectively.
I am abs. agree with You 'bout pure warrior playing. Just waste of time. I started 2 times Arena as Thief (was stopped at some water cannal !!) and as a Knight till wise Master Scatty direct me to try as a Spellsword and voilaaaaa!
The brave won the game.
So nice management of the spells I never seen.

Would be so nice inform me about middle requirement of Skyrim? CPU, RAM and videocard ram.
Merci.
:whistling:
the brave aka humble yoga

TY
 

Gracias a mi amigo. :D

Funny video about the TES lore :perv:

Bravo, bravissimo
 

:hihihi:
Nice work, Caro Capo!

Excellent.

:hello:

Good that we have you in the forum yoga, not many humorous people here *^_^

Does anyone have a pdf of the Arena Cluebook?

I believe it was called Codex Scienta or something similar?

I guess there is a chapter on how they created the game mechanics of Arena and I always wanted to have a look at it.

Google doesn't give me much :(

There might be one flying somewhere around, though Replacementdocs (the first drop-in center if it's about manuals) has all manuals from The Elder Scrolls - Arena removed by request of Bethesda. Even by such an old game, which isn't even sold anymore. Some people are just too picky, I guess...

missing tombs
 

Hi,

has anyone else received a bug where every discovered castle, tomb or fortress has simply dissappeared from the map?

I recently discovered the fortress of Ice. After i found out i was to weak for it, i startet crawling some dungeons and making some quests to level up. After i feel'd ready, the fortress of ice dissappeared from my map and i'm not able to re-discover it.

Has anyone a solution for that?

Maybe there's a limit on how many dungeons the map can remember, and when you discover new ones after the limit the game just starts forgetting the oldest ones? Just a wild guess, I haven't experienced this.

:whistling:
May i ask You to attach the map in question.
I hope You keep oldest Save files with still working map?
PrintScreen during the game and picture is ready.

I finished the game soon and had no such problems.

Well, it's difficuilt to show, how something is missing, but here is my map:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...earenamap.png/

The dungeon you see in the east is the hall of soar and appears just for some quest.

The Fortress of Ice should be somewhere where the cursor points.

It's probably the best guess, because i visited a couple of them recently.
Luckily, i still have a save state where the fortress of ice exists. It just has pissed me off, since it means a difference of two levels for me ...

Hi all! My laptop has the Windows ME OS on it, and getting this game to work on it has been hell. It always gives me the not enough EMS message, even though I am able to use the option to change the amount of Expanded Memory the A.EXE uses. I know that ME makes it extremely hard to run real time dos games and have tried to use DosBox, but my processor is just crap and gets choppy when I increase the cycles. Is there anything I can do to run this game short of getting a computer that can run DosBox properly?

VDMSound, perhaps, although I'm not sure if it works with WinME.

You can try what Windows 9x/Me called rebooting in "DOS mode". Right-click on the executable or shortcut, go to the "program" tab, and enable the "MS-DOS mode" checkbox. Or shut down Windows and choose to "reboot in MS-DOS mode", then run the game from there.

Hmm I don't remember Windows ME having a boot to dos mode. I know it had a crappy dos mode in windows but that wasn't real dos.

Not as crappy as XP's command prompt, but what ME did was disable real time dos mode, to make booting quicker or something so booting to dos is normally impossible. Now, apparently I can take the ME boot diskette, edit some files in and it should make a full real time dos disk, does anyone know how to do that or know of any good tutorials for it?

Not sure about Me, it's my copy of 98 SE what I had checked.

It is a regular DOS boot disk, only for DOS v8 or whatever, and with some extras. So you can probably use it right away. In case the extras should leave too little conventional memory to run games you could delete some lines from CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. But first try using the Windows Me boot disk as is.

Also, the option to really create a DOS boot disk is present in all versions of Windows, at least up to 7:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vistados.png
But I think it's totally bare-boned, without CD-ROM or even extended or expanded memory drivers. But you can find those easily.

http://www.bootdisk.com/bootdisk.htm

If gaming is your goal I would advise "Windows 98 SE Custom, No Ramdrive"
It's FAT32 compatible (I will assume WinME HD is FAT32, usually is) and with some minor tweaks you'll have enough free base memory for most dosgames.
Of course you will have to edit config.sys/autoexec.bat to get sound in dos.

Problems I foresee: sound support for Dos. Desktops/laptops made for WinME had something called 'SB support' or similar, had to be enabled in the BIOS menu, but that 'SB support' was poor, bare and minimal..... and WinME didn't like it enabled, great chances it will screw up sound in WinME itself.

... and some mores stuffs .... blah blah.

Bottom line: a WinME laptop is far from ideal to run dosgames.

I hear that, got a 98 boot essentials disc written up, can only run A.exe with no sound and the mouse isn't supported. Funny how xp is better at emulating Arena even without dosbox, while ME, which is dos based can't do crap. Still I have redguard, dagger, and spire working on it with no editing so i'll cut my losses.
Edit: Nevermind, the boot disk came with a nice virtual mouse that activated my laptop's still no sound though, I thought an ESS allegro would work.

I don't know about that sound card, but make sure if it isn't DOS or even Sound Blaster compatible (very usual), or if there aren't drivers for DOS. I see some results in Google. The last time I used real DOS I had a Sound Blaster PCI 128 and it came with drivers to emulate a SB 16.

Hello again all you people, I just got a bunch of good quality floppy disks and have been going on kind of a nostalgia kick. So I was wondering if anyone has floppy img files for Arena? It's not essential, I've just noticed some files have original images for download and would like to maybe get that good old floppy feel. Anyway, no biggie if nobody has any just a request.

So sorry, dear BillyH666,

i have no img files of one of my favorite RP game.

yoga
:OK:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo! Ah well, I wasn't actually expecting anything. Luckily I now have an Arena CD burned as my plan b!

So, I finally got Arena to work on ME using an ems emulator. it runs well without sound, which brings me to my problem.... When I'm in ME, my sound card has auto soundblaster emulation, I've used it with daggerfall and the like, but when I set add sound in Arena, it starts without sound, I can proceed to the main menu but when I try to load a game or start a new one, the Insufficient Base Memory message pops up and closes the game. Could it be because the ems emulator only gives me 32mb of ems? I'd really appreciate the help.

:smile2:
Dear BillyH666,
I understand Your hard problem and know very well how feels the hero without sound warning in endless corridors of Daggerfall.
Excuse me, I do not know yr PC, but if You are able to use:
1. XP
2. 7
with DosBox, maybe You will be satisfied?
Virtual machines are also solution in some cases.

Please, can You inform us about your character and progress, if any?
I think that without Passwall spell is impossible to win.

Everyone of us meets situation when s(he) thinks that no solution and no victory is possible. I still remember my problem with Fast falling doors in Dungeon Master 2. Seven long days poor yoga tried and tried and tried to run under the doors. At last i ran under..
Or my funny battle with Lord Xeen..
So, be brave and You will win.
Stand up and fight!
You are lucky to play one of the best RPG. After BoK.

..and do not run as stupid one but step by step carefully advance.

Good luck.
:smile2:

To be fair i ignored sound and music in many games.
I used my headphones and good music replaced game's one, which is very ordinary in many cases.
yoga

Well, with a 12 mhz pentium 3 and only 256 mb of actual ram, I think i'll find some celtic harp music and play away!!!

Welp, got sound to work using vdm for win9x, still has an insufficient base memory crash, so guess i'm playing deaf!

You've got a Pentium III with 12 (!) Mhz? :cry: How is that possible? Not even a 486 line of processors had such low clock speeds.
That with insufficient memory, your problem is not 32 MB of EMS memory, it's more than enough. The problem is that Arena, being an earlier Dos game, requires much conventional memory (look here if you're not familiar with it), at least 580 kb for playing with sound if I remember correctly. I don't know about this EMS emulator, but if you're playing this game directly from Windows then it's a bad call, you would need to configure startup settings for the Dos part in the files autoexec.bat and config.sys correctly to have enough conventional memory available.
Or you'd need to play it in DosBox, though with 12 Mhz speed... wow.

I would play it from pure dos with my village idiot disc, but the sound card I gots has no dos emulation :dislike:, and it's a laptop so no part swapping for that. Luckily I know how to edit the autoexec through regedit, bypassing ME's wonderful resetting autoexec file. I'm gonna see if I can free up some conventional memory without blowing my compie up (she's an old gal.) and either boast about my success or cry....

PIIIs had clock rates from 450 to 1400 mHz, the 12 mHz is probably a typo

Probably you're right Fifth :D
Actually I think simply setting the autoexec.bat to read-only after editing should stop Windows ME from changing it, too. At least it was working that way in Windows 98 SE.
Anyway good look and be sure to post here if you have any questions or need help.

P.S. Btw. that with the sound card, you mentioned that you got sound working with VDMSound, so when you have more memory that should be solved.

No need to trash your system files! Right-click on the executable, choose properties, then click on the "advanced..." button, on the ensuing dialog window enable the "MS-DOS mode", and then you can toggle another option to substitute the current config.sys/autoexec.bat with custom ones for this particular game (keep only essential stuff you need, including SoundBlaster emulation, so that you have enough conventional memory).

(click to enlarge)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...psb79270d4.png

Pro tip: if, instead of entering "exit" into DOS to return to Windows, you just power down the computer, the next time it will boot again in DOS, until you enter "exit" at any time.

Argggggggghh! Man, I just can' t catch a break! So I found out that to run properly, Arena needs 604k of conventional memory, I have everything else down, I can even use real ems because I actually found dos drivers for my pci card! But with all my editing of the boot disk I still only get about 546k, I' m so close..... why does my computer taunt me so?! :(

Try to only load the drivers you actually need and LH them if possible.

If you didn't do so yet, put the following line into config.sys (I suspect you didn't yet, hence why you have so little conventional memory):

dos=high,umb

That should free up some memory.
Also sometimes there's more memory free if you loadhigh (lh) some programs, and some not. You should experiment which ones. Try loading some of the programs into upper memory, see if there's more memory available, try to load some other programs instead and see if the free memory increases or lowers. If you loadhigh all of them, not all would fit into high memory, some will be automatically preferred by the operating system and others will stay in the lower memory. Which is not always and optimal choice.

Also while loading the emm386.exe (assuming you are using that ems program) in config.sys, following switches can free up more conventional memory:

Device (drive, folder)EMM386.EXE RAM HIGHSCAN

RAM is absolutely necessary as it frees up upper memory blocks which dos is loaded into with the command further above.
HIGHSCAN can free up even more memory on some computers. On some computers though, it will cause a hang up, after which you'd need to start without autoexec.bat and config.sys and remove the HIGHSCAN option. I advice you to try it out anyway and see if it helps.
Also it is of course necessary to load emm386.exe first and put the DOS command below it in config.sys.

mem /c
or
mem /c/p

Will tell you a lot.....

593k almost there! quick question is it possible to load command.com high?

It would be simpler if you would post the mem /c output.
Command syntax: mem /c > c:\memc.txt
Gives you the output in c:\memc.txt (of course you can adapt c:\memc.txt to something you prefer)

Some more general tips:
Sometimes loading first the larger ones 'high' can benefit (avoids a lack of large high mem blocks for the larger ones)
You're always better when larger ones can be loaded high, smaller ones can easily be loaded in base mem if needed)
If smartdrive is loaded: 'rem' it out, smartdrive can consume a lot of high (or base) mem and is in fact (kinda) useless.
There are some small mouse drivers to find, (cutemouse .....etc) that can save some mem.
....etcetera etcetera .................

Also: memmaker , maybe not the best memory soft and a bit basic, but it can save you a lot of headaches ......

Okay, so my fiddling with the bootdisk messed it up, so now am using Idiot's boot essentials, down to 551k

Code:

Maybe I can get a smaller cd driver, I would like to use the cd version of Arena, but at this point the floppy would friggin suffice.

Getting rid of the CDROM would do it, because MSCDEX is also part of it. CD drivers used to take a lot of memory, but that was hardly an issue, because by that time all CD games used protected mode (no conventional memory requirement). This is a rare case, a game with a very high requirement (even compared to other real mode games--Arena was very advanced technically at its time), but with a CD version released later. It may be possible to have CD support in DOS and enough memory left, but it looks very difficult to me.

The two easy solutions are no CD or DOSBox of course. You can probably play many games in DOSBox in a Pentium III, but a 3D game such as Arena is a stretch. Besides playing the floppy version, you could also look for a pirate noCD patch...

I take it you can't give me a link even if the game is free XD. Oh well, at least I'll be able to play the darned thing now, maybe some other games too, thanks everyone for the help!

There's no problem in my giving you the program openly over here :)--although I couldn't link you to a website that had other pirated software as well. But the problem is that noCDing a game is not an exact science. Sometimes it's just as easy as copying the contents of the CD to the hard drive, and pointing the game to the new location if this is configurable by editing a text cfg file, or using the subst command to fake a CD there (worth a try!). In other cases, specially when the game has anti-piracy detection to make sure you do have the CD, programs such as FakeCD could help; but I don't know if that works even half of the times, because at the time these detection features tended to be different for each game or publisher. So in other cases you need specific cracks for each game. And also when you look for this kind of third party programs, it's possible to get a trojan; I'm not usually very worried about viruses within DOSBox (specially in Windows x64 where I can't run the same program natively even by accident), but in a Windows 98 machine you could get it infected whole.

I'm attaching FakeCD 1.3a (readme included) to this post, in case you want to give it a try, because as I said I can't point you to where I got it from (lol). But I would try first copying the CD to the hard drive. At any rate use it at your own risk!! Here is a report from 46 antivirus programs that say it's clean, but I am not giving you my word on it!
https://www.virustotal.com/file/83d5...is/1358597748/


EDIT: What's the difference between the CD and floppy versions? Which is the one for download at http://www.elderscrolls.com/arena/?

The cd version differences are minor, it adds an intro video, and voice acting for cutscenes. Not a big difference, but it is a nice little addition. The floppy version is the one on the official site though.

Hello,


Is anyone looking for this?


http://www.sendspace.com/file/81y91u


Found it on a Russian website (concurrent to Abandonia), but it might be confusing for people to try get it there, though those people should be thanked (hello russians on this board).

This link dies very soon, so the staff can decide if they think more
people would be interested, or if it's legit to this website. As far as
I know, TES: Arena is available in a current Anthology for sale (not
the Cd-Rom version, I presume), but this is not. It seems rather abandoned
to me.


No, I actually do not know what this is, so don't ask.
Only the adventurer is worthy.

:D
Hi,
I DL the file but i am busy to play MM3 and SoX and no time to continue.
Maybe after a while.
Yes, Russians are generous boys.
Their sites are full of nice, free stuff.
I like Russians.

If anyone has the Codex Scientia, it would be cool to get a writeup of racial attribute modifiers. I've been looking at those for Daggerfall @ UESP, but I'm not sure if they weren't different in Arena, especially with some not making much sense (like only negative modifiers).

In unrelated news, I'm playing the version off Bethesda's site, and I've noticed two things: goblins don't carry any treasure, and no spellswords (or was it rogues?) spawning in the Imperial Dungeons. The version purports to be 1.06, which should be the latest, and I've always applied the latest patch on all versions of Arena I've played.


Ok I tested it again with a "Gold" version I've found on the net. Two objective results so far:

- In Bethesda's version, goblins give no loot. In the Gold version, they give minor loot (dagger, staff, 40 gold). This seems like an improvement because without loot killing all those goblins felt very unsatisfying.

- In Bethesda's version, the target cursor is grey. In the Gold version, it's red. This seems like an improvement because it makes the target cursor easier to see against dungeon walls.


Also it seems to me that goblins are much quicker to attack in the Gold version. In Bethesda's version, they seemed rather tardy and just stood there most of the time. Also in Beth's version they almost never managed to hit my high agility Argonian; in Gold they can kill you if there are two of them.

I haven't been able to reproduce Nightblades or Rogues attacking you in the Imperial Dungeon, but I can clearly remember powerful human enemies there in some versions I've played. Weird. Maybe my level was too low (3).


Considering the above I would recommend to play the Gold version and avoid Bethesda's version. Maybe the latter isn't properly patched.

Ok, I found a copy of the Codex Scientia. Here are the attribute modifiers:


Nord

M: +10 STR, +10 END/ -10 INT, -10 WIL, -10 AGI

F: +10 LUC/ -10 INT


Khajit

M: +10 END/ -10 WIL, -10 AGI

F: +10 LUC


Redguard

M: +10 AGI, +10 LUC/ -10 INT, -10 WIL, -10 END

F: +10 SPD, +10 LUC/ -10 INT, - 10 WIL, -10 END


Breton

M: +10 INT, +10 WIL/ -10 STR, -10 END

F: +10 INT, +10 WIL/ -10 STR, -10 END


Argonian

M: +10 AGI, +10 SPD/ -10 END

F: +10 STR/ -10 END


Wood Elf

M: +10 AGI, +10 SPD/ -10 LUC, -10 END

F: +-0


High Elf

M: +10 INT, +10 WIL/ -10 STR, -10 END

F: +10 INT, +10 PER/ -10 STR, -10 END


Dark Elf

M: +10 STR, +10 INT/ -10 WIL, -10 PER

F: +10 INT/ -10 WIL