It was 9.11 yesterday. Many people know what happened in that day couple of years ago.

Did the terrorist attack in 9.11 affect your live?

Althought the innocent who died on that day still make it tragic - I still prefer remembering the 11th of September as the international day of peace - the fact that some people tried to upset the peace should only make the desire for peace on Earth stronger!

To me, 11 September is first and foremost my mum's birthday. But then again I might think differently if I were American, I suppose...

Things were going (slowly) a bit better all over the world. After 9 11 it has been *meep*ed up even more and slowed down much of the progress. We shouldn't have let 10-20 murderers-hijackers force the way our countries live. After 4 years not only have the people behind it not been caught, but thousands more people in several countries have died because of it. Catch the *dirty word* masterminds behind the 9 11 and arrest the assholes abusing the pain and suffering to promote their own agendas over the bodies of humans. :ranting:

Yeah, it made me even more pissed off and cynical than i already was. Which was alot already. A bit more, and maybe someday, i too, will unleash the rage ! :rifle:

you can't *catch* people who lead the best intelegence force on earth(currently). :ranting:
there is, seriously, nothing CIA can't do if they put enough effort into it, if they still haven't found Osama and/or those people responsible it just means one thing- they don't want to.

you can't *catch* people who lead the best intelegence force on earth(currently). :ranting:
there is, seriously, nothing CIA can't do if they put enough effort into it, if they still haven't found Osama and/or those people responsible it just means one thing- they don't want to. [/b][/quote]
They were just about to catch him, but suddenly they moved forces out from Afganistan and attacked Irak.

What strategy.....

We are Pawns of something biggest... :omg:

Let me guess - and just when they would find the weapons of mass destrustion in Iraq they'll gonna leave (without the weapons) and invade Mongolia for its friendly relationship with North Korea :whistle:

how did it affect me? Quite plainly, there was nothing good on TV.

You make me... :sick:

oh, it also indirectly made me hate bush/blair due to thier use of it as an excuse for war.
Did you know there isnt enough evidence linking 9/11 to the Taleban for a court case? Sure, they admitted it, but a host of other terrorist groups did too.

Many people dies...my friend lost an uncle...
So please shut up...and be seriuos...

British mandate over the territory known as Palestine (State of Israel, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, a part of the Golan Heights, and the Kingdom of Jordan) officially begins on september 11 1920.

September 11 2001 was a terrible event, and it is a tragedy that to this day Jihadists continue to flourish and commit attacks across the world to this very day.

May heart goes out to all those who lost their lives on 9.11 and all those who lost their lives to terror before and after 9.11

I understand that it has brought sorrow to many people, but what Danny said is a fact. Many people have died in New Orleans lately and many people died for example in the tsunami accident a while ago, but still you don't tell the people at "Bush's latest vacation"-thread to be serious.

I don't think Danny was mocking anyone (but Bush) there nor did he try to offend or insult you (or anyone else for that matter).

Sorry...I was upset...but
"how did it affect me? Quite plainly, there was nothing good on TV."
Really hurts me..

How else would you expect it to affect a 10 year old kid that lives in another continent?

It's regrettable but there we are.

Also stroggy, you have to remember that it's not really the Jihadists at all, that'd be like saying that Catholics are to blame for all of the stuff with the IRA. You also have to remember that the Americans are now on an oil-fuelled crusade around the world and that it'd be hard to stop them.

The only way that it has affected me is that people have become a lot more anti-muslim and that I have to try harder to dissuade people from burning down mosques or whatever. Such is life though.

I guess you're personally involved... You should work on your feelings.
That was a tragic even - no doubt and many people died, but how did you feel when you heard about Srebrenica???
I'm asking because it was a tragic event that happened at the time you were about the same age Danny was when 9/11 happened.
Tell me, how did you back then feel about Srebrenica?
Did you even know about it?
Do you know about it now???
Did you care? (be honest)
Unfortunately that's the way things go - people who aren't directly involved usually don't even care - if they even bother to find out what happend - so unless media pumps it up - no body gives a rat's behind.

I don't think he knows about Srebrenica.

What's Srebrenica? :huh:

This is Srebrenica

That would only prove my point! And that would mean that being angry at Danny is completely unjustified.
But I don't know that - maybe David knows about it and he was shocked about it too.
I mean there was at least one such terrible even in every decade of the last century... and I doubt that most people cared much about it... Only as long it was HOT-NEWS.
And only things that are in the political interest of somebody remain HOT-NEWS for a longer period of time.

13, thank you very much.
quite plainly, Im thinking much the same about iraq. I dont want to know that someone has died. I want some non-depressing news for once!

Danny, you're 17 now? Didn't know that.

what? Would someone please explain?

I was talking about 4 years ago, 2001.

it did affect me..i was watching "Just for Laughs" when it was interrupted by the news..mostly my mother was freaked out cause my father is in america.

Oh I see.
damn lack of concentration.

I feel sorry for the innocent people who died and for their family's however this date is not of much importance to me and it didn't (directly)affect my life...

The Jihadists will always find reasons to attack, this most everybody on the political spectrum agree on. They attacked the US before the war on iraq and they attacked Spain during the war. The Jihadists are to blaim since they carried out the attack. The initial 9.11 attack was, according to them, because of the US influence on the middle east, not just political influence but also cultural and economical. On these grounds they could also attack Japan or any European country.
Belgium was against the war in Iraq but a large ammount of terrorists have been caught trying to execute a terrorist attack in Belgium. The same goes for France and Germany, both countries who were staunch critics of president Bush's war.

Well, I live on the other side of the country, and I didn't know anyone in NYC at that time. The only way it really affected me is that I will hear about it in later years and remember where I was and what was going on when I heard about it, because it was such a big deal. I was...14, I guess, but it seems like I was a lot older than that :bleh:

I have a hard time feeling compassion for people that are affected by things like this, or disaster. Only until recently I could really feel honestly bad and understand the magnitude of some event that really hits hard.
It was very sad though, and my heart goes out to those who suffered losses, truly.

I remember when I first heard about it, I was back in Thessaloniki, sleeping cause I had to get up very early to catch the plane to london. My mother woke me up and told me to turn on the tv in my room. I did and I was just catching the second I think plane hitting the towers. I thought it was weird for my mother to wake me up to watch a movie. Quickly enough of course, I understood that it was all too real. The guy on the tv (some greek guy) was saying how the towers were full of people. I was scared, worried and eventualy started crying. I had a feeling that the towers would collapse, and of course they did a bit later. All I could think of was that the towers were full of people (30K+?) and that most of them could have died. I was in a terrible condition. Like everybody else I had no idea who was behind it at the moment, though I did get to the idea of the behind osama after a while. The other thing I remember was the tv showing footage of people in some arabic countries (don't even remember where right now) and how they were celebrating. I felt very sad about the whole thing. I didn't feel so much anger towards them for celebrating the event, but pity.
The fact that osama and his pals have not been caught or killed yet makes me furious about the *meep* up of the current administration in the USA. They are incompetent, fools and do not deserve to rule the greatest country in the world.
I am afraid that the osama and co will only be caught with the next administration (rep or dem), because the current is the who is who of stupidity to the levels of treason.
I love the USA and I can't stand how it is been treated by its current leaders like a toilet for them to do their work.
:ranting:

It was very weird for me. At the time I heard the news, I was just finishing my New York in SC3K. My mother came in, and asked whether I was still working on it, and then mentioned the WTC. I knew I'd placed them wrong, and was just fixing that at that time. She then told me they were no longer there. I didn't believe it at first.
That was very weird.

osama has now heavy water and uranium as they can steal it pretty easy..be afraid ..be very afraid...

I'm here again....you know I'm not omniscient..I'm sincere,I don't know about Srebrenica like all of you don't know about other tragedies in the world...forgotten by the Media, but all important and impressive...I feel sorry for all of theme...
When I was a child and for the first time I knew about wars and tragedies I didn't say "Oh..they've cut me my Spongebob from television!" but sincerly I was very regret...and
sad..sad for the human brutality! :(
Ok...maybe I'm too emotional, I'm sorry for Danny..I was too impulsive...
Hey...believe me...I'm not a bad person..I love life and the other people around me...
Thanks you all for the support...Ciao Puffin, grazie anche a te :bye:
I hate war...but I've learned too early that it's impossible to stop it...
Sorry for my poor English..I hope you'll understand my emotion..
Good night...

David feel free to say whatever you want (within the rules of this forum of course).
I know what you mean and I support you 100%

No body is saying you're a bad person. The way you feel, many should try to become like you. If more people would be sensitive about what's happening in the world - maybe (just maybe) there would be a slight chance, that would make me hope, it may get better.
The thing is - people aren't sensitive enough about the problems in the world - but it's not their fault!
You're not the only one who hates war - I'm more then convinced that the vast majority of our forum members (and I also hope the vast majority of all the people in the world) hates war. And it's not imposible to stop it, but it's as close to impossible as it gets. Let's hope that sometime soon we won't have to read, watch and listen to reports of terrorist attacks, of extremist attacks, of army attacks, of wars, of people getting killed (weather in attacks, in accidents, natural disasters,...).
Here's a little song for all who understand German - Ein Bisschen Frieden

nah not really since i dont know anyone who died there or got injured :ph34r:

didn't any of your friends (or aquanteces) go to anti-war demonstartions? or maybe pro-war? I hope none of them had to actualy go to iraq so your country could demonstrate it's commitment to american imperialsim? all those things have in a way followed out of 9.11 (just like WWI had in a way followed out of Franz Ferdinands assaination).

Well, noone on abandonia goes to demonstrations (afaik) and everyone else I know is either working or at school and/or dosent care.... so.. no.

Those were Palestinians in the West Bank and in Lebanon.

I went to more than one demonatration "for russian education" and against "the reform" (which is basicly the same thing).
allso none of the peole I know went to Iraq, but our county did send some.

I believe Sebatianos went to at least one peace-rally.

I watched it in school at the time I was only 10 to, or nine i dont remember. And I was scared crapless because my dad was out flying for american airlines (one of the 2 airlines that were used. Luckly he wasnt one of them but it still heavely affected meh

I watched it in school, it was strange... because in most of countries at south of the Bravo river, the US are hated by their foreing politics and how they destroy our independece and make money exploting the poors and corruption the dirigent class. But, it was not fully guilty people who dead. They was just working and the plumb..... the planes. I feel that it wasn´t right and it didn´t help to the quest against imperialism.
Anyway, for me... 9-11, it´s too the memorial of these attack. When the fundamentalism pilots launched the attack against "la casa de la moneda" (presidencial palace). Killing the chilen socialist president Allende and it was the CIA who prepared the Pinochet´s coup. And some years ago (25), Osoma and co. were "freedom fighters". The US can´t beat terrorism with state´s terrorism. If they continue calling war for international security, freedom or liberty; to the wars to steal (no only with wars in normal sense, economics sieges with the BIRD, FMI, etc too)..... it´s a werid situation.

Facts about 9-11: (this is all true and can be confirmed by multiple media instances)

-Osama bin laden was originally trained in the USA by the CIA to go to Iraq and rid the world of the Taliban... He was given 3 Billion US Dollars to fund his operation... This was somewhere in 1990.. He crossed over to the taliban because he felt like he was being used by the USA government... This was in 1998

-There were 5 airplanes instead of three... 2 went into the towers, 1 into the pentagon but the other 2 never made it across the atlantic. 1 crashed and burned due to fuel leakage and the other never took off...

-(trick) you should view the registration Number of the First airplane (don't know it anymore) in the following fonts. Wingdings. Webdings. Symbol. If done correctly you'll see 2 towers, an airplane, a skull and a jewish star (star of david)

-(trick) If you have a 20 dollar bill, you can fold it in such a way that it shows 2 towers burning. you should go here for details.
20 Dollar Bill
20 Dollar Bill 2

That's all....

"My condoleances go out to the victims of the one brutal assault that decimated the face of the earth forever..." ~Linus van de Laarschot

(it hasn't changed my life at all...)

I watched the second plane fly into the tower on CNN and thought WTF??? It was insane... but what creeped me out the most was those people jumping out of the towers... that was really sad

The sickest thing is there is actually amateur footage on ogrish.com, showing those people close up...

2 words...

Sick...

to be honest...I completely forgot it was 9/11

This is almost entirely incorrect. Where to start? First, the Taliban were in Afghanistan, not Iraq. For the rest, just go here [Wikipedia] and read.

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What about United Flight 93, the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania? And I have no idea what you're talking about regarding two planes that "never made it across the Atlantic." None of the planes used in the attacks flew across the Atlantic. And one plane that crashed due to a fuel leak? No idea where that came from either.

Anyone with MS Word can prove that this isn't true. Have you tried it? It simply doesn't work. I'll help you out by telling you that the registration number of the first airplane to hit (American Flight 11) was N334AA. You can take it from there.

I see parts of the White House and the adjacent trees. It's a real stretch to say that that shows the WTC towers burning.

Man, is that rumor still alive?! That's the stupidest thing ever. I heard it the first time something like a day after the incident and it circulated with the so called "plane registration number", which wasn't the number of any of the planes, or even a valid one for any plane for that matter.

I second what Fruit Pie Jones said. Those were the most far-fetched things ever on that matter. None of those points are completely (or pretty much even remotely) true.

...my behind

in wingdings N is a skull and 33 can be interpreted as towers.. but star of david? plane?

short things short:
This year it affected me even less then all those years before...

That's wrong!

What you should do is to write:
NYC (as in New York City) and when you change the fonts you'll get those symbols you're talking about...

BTW - I think I already showed this right...

How Osama got the idea:

That's not really funny.

Also Osama was bribed to fight the Russians off, the Taliban were called (at the time) the muhadjadeen (I think) and they were openly funded by the USA. Afghanistan was essentially Vietnam for the Russians, it was filled with losses and only really ended in the early 90's.

The MUHADJADEEN as you call them are actually mercenaries of the muslim faith. And the Taliban were such mercenaries, but this word does implys also for other muslim fighter that go to fight outside their country for their faith and also money.

Osama wasn't bribed to fight the Russians - he was trained and also suppleid with weapons by the CIA, to fight the Soviets, who invaded Afghanistan.
Just like US also helped Sadam Husein in the was between Iraq and Iran (because in Iran they had a muslim revolution and under Homeini the country became anti-American).

And about the funny side of my picture... It's like with the tricks with the dollar bills.
Those tricks are done slightly wrong two. With the 20$ bill you were suppose to see the Pentagon in fire and you needed (I think) a 100$ bill to see the WTC in flames (or was it just the other way around?). I remember getting those two tricks shortly after that happened, but I doubt I still have the pictures (it's like with the NYC - the other trick I already explained). After a while people forget...

This is a good link for that 20 dollor bill crap
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/20bill.shtml

I see you have all done your homework...

these are all things i remembered when i read the newspapers 1 year ago so please don't grind me for making a few mistakes... I'm a person too and people tend to forget things over time...

And by the way, Iraq, Afganistan, Saudi Arabia and countless other countries with similar names are all part of the middle east so i hereby remotely edit my previous post and change "iraq" into "The middle east"

The airplane thing was wrong too... the guy who printed this in the papers was fired 2 days later for spreading false information... (he should be executed)

The dollar thing... well i don't use dollars... i use Euro's... Actually i've never seen a real dollar before... so i just assumed it would look real life...

Now that i've corrected my most grievous errors, let's move on...

Afghanistan is not a middle eastern country, neither is Pakistan, Iran is the end of where Middle East reaches. Then it goes west to Iraq, Syria, south to Lebanon, Israel, Jordan and it includes Egypt and even Libya. Also all the countries in the Arabian peninsula.

And all the countries in the middle east do not sound the same, don't be a dick.

This confirms it... you are deliberately busting my balls for trying to accomplish something for which i actually made an effort. I don't give a flying F*** about america but i do feel sorry for the 9.11 thing. you all have my regrets and so on but you are Really starting to get annoying...

-I suck at topography. I don't give a rat's behind where what country is and i really don't need you pointing that out to me...

G'day

And I BET one of the reasons why you don't give a "flying F***" about the US is because "OMG THE AMERICENS R SO IGNORENT & ST00PID!!!!!!!111oneoneeleven"... :whistle:

A little advide: If you don't know what you're talking about: Just shut the "flying F***" up next time.
There are more than enough reasons to doubt the official versions of what happened on 9/11 (and prior), so you really don't need to make some up... :D

And I BET one of the reasons why you don't give a "flying F***" about the US is because "OMG THE AMERICENS R SO IGNORENT & ST00PID!!!!!!!111oneoneeleven"... :whistle:

A little advide: If you don't know what you're talking about: Just shut the "flying F***" up next time.
There are more than enough reasons to doubt the official versions of what happened on 9/11 (and prior), so you really don't need to make some up... :D

A little defensive, or is it just me? Saying that all the countries in the middle east sound the same has WHAT to do with you not caring about the USA?
It is ok to be ignorant but to start swearing about one country (USA) when someone points to you something else is, oh screw it, you are an idiot I am not wasting any more time with you.

*points the finger towards the clock*

time to move on... it's dramatic enough as it is...

(nice touch Chuck.... posting the same message twice...)

Because you never ever had any internet-connection issuses that led to a double-posting... :whistle:
But since that is all you could say anyway...

efthimios is perfectly right, I'd say...

P.S.: Hey,look fast, maybe you'll find some sort of spelling mistake or false punctuation in one of these posts which you can pick on, that'll make you look even smarter! :w00t:

flood control stops double posting..
plus theres a 3 minute difference between the posts

Well as you can see those two posts were done in the same minute - so it's almost impossible that it was done deliberatly. Something similar happened to me as well (but back then we still had the delete buttons).
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Obviously the mods still have the delete buttons, but the rest of us don't any more. This probably makes sense, because Mods can also delete posts (their own and probably other people's too). This is a reply to the next post made by Danny. [EDIT STOP]

For not giving a RAT'S BEHIND - why even reply then? If you don't have an opinion or can't contribute - don't post. If you have an opinion and make a mistake - learn from it. The worst thing to do is to try and cover for your mistakes by starting to get offensive.

Now with that said - let's really move on - otherwise this topic should get closed!

The question was: "Did (if so how) the terrorist attack on 11th of September 2001 effect your lifes?"

We still have the delete buttons.. or is that just because I a mod? :blink:?
well, 9/11 was a turning point.. and, I believe, an excuse for someone to go to war.

Haidel, for what it's worth, I have nothing personal against you. (There are too many people in this world - and on this forum, in fact - who "don't give a flying F*** about America" for me to take it personally from every single one.) I was merely trying to correct some misinformation.

Oh, and here's a fact about Osama bin Laden that can be verified: He and I share a birthday (March 10th).

Nope, just the local media who are still talking about it .....

About posts, why i continue in 30?

I think Chatterbox posts do not count.