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I've never heard of this before, but I'll check it out. ;)

You have never heard of nethack!!!!!!! :eeeeeh: !!!!! :eeeeeh: !!!!! :eeeeeh:

Well I have but never have played it. So I guess I might as well try it!

I don't get it..I haven't downloaded yet because of the file size, but what do you have to do?

I've never heard of it either *feels ashamed*, but that's the first review in ages that has got me really intrigued (enough so to actually post), so I'll be diving head first into this. Cheers Wael.

Nah, don't be ashamed. Join the group of people that don't people what NetHack is..anyone like my signature? :angel:

Shouldn't this really be on AR? :blink:

To quote the opening paragraph of the review...
I think that pretty much makes my argument!

Great game though! :ok:

Love this game..Not as much as ADOM, but seeing it on here (Damn, thought it already WAS on here o.O) makes me wanna play it again. :D Go Nethack go!!

THis is simply one of the greatest games EVER! Download it. It may take some time to "figure out", but it's well well worth it. I've been playing Nethack off and on for something like three years now, have never gotten even close to beating it, but keep coming back for more. The sheer number of variables keeps it entertaining.
Have Fun!
:pimp:

this is, apart from being the only game I play _constantly_ for over 13 years, the game that inspired Diablo.

just now I am playing Nakor the 30-level monk on my way back through the dungeon to the surface and beyond. I have the Amulet Of Yendor with me (the real one, not a cheap plastic imitation), my pet Archon is carrying the blessed, rustproof +7 Sunsword while I am using my Grand Master Of Martial Arts skill... I genocided mind flayers and demi-liches, had a chat with Croesus, Medusa and some major demons and being generous to the community brought me to armor class -42.

I am, of course, living on a strictly vegan diet and this game has already taken 80+ hours (real time). still, I have a feeling I won't be lucky this time and will have to start again...

so, is this enough to keep you interested? or do I have to tell you what happens if you find yourself being naked and drunk between a Succubus and a nurse (yes, this happens in Nethack)? if you find yourself in this situation, be sure to bring your camera...

this is so funny... have.. to.. go.. andplaysomemorebye.

loved the raw text based variant. played that during my civil service ^^

gonna check this one out. :)

Ive never heard of it, but ill give it a shot. Gratz on the 700th review btw

This might be considered nit-picking, and I apologize, but Mjollnir is from the Aesir gods OF Valhalla (Thor, or in German, Donar), otherwise know as Norse mythology. Valhalla is the great hall of heroes where the warriors who die in battle go to drink, feast, and relive their battles every day until Ragnarok (Or Gotterdammerung) where thye will fight with the Aesir against Loki and his ilk. Sorry, but I'd just like to point out that error in the review. Heh.

Great game though. :ok:

Mjollnir is also great to have as a valkyrie. If one also finds gauntlets of strength, she can throw it and it'll always return.

If anyone else wants a really cool weapon, I'd suggest a cockatrice corpse. Just make sure you're wearing gloves when you wield it, or you'll be turned to stone yourself.

I can'ts stands it no mores! It's choiCe.

Well, Kosta feels that if a game (even if shareware/freeware) is old enough it may find it's place on Abandonia (as long as it's an old DOS game). If this policy changes it will be moved like some other games were (but the review will hopefully remain here as well - like with some other games).

check out falconseye, its an isometric view version, very nice. same engine

i think its

falconseye.sourceforge.net

For some reason the download is not working for me.

i can't believe you're just now adding NETHACK!!! easily one of the top 5 freeware games ever. although in all fairness, it should pry be on reloaded.

help plz

when i try to download the game it'll get this message:

Warning: fopen(http://206.51.238.2/createsym.php?Ga...95a999cd74db8a): failed to open stream: Operation timed out in /var/www/abandonia.com/download.php on line 23

Warning: fgets(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /var/www/abandonia.com/download.php on line 24

Warning: fclose(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in /var/www/abandonia.com/download.php on line 25

after clicking on download i'll allways get message
The server at 206.51.238.2 is taking too long to respond.

iam using mozilla firefox and never had problem of that kond before

try /
http://www.nethack.org/v343/downloads.html (official page)
´till it´s fixed hereish

(& for the reference, the screenshots seem to be from the graphical mode (blasthemy :P ), while the standard is "ascii", numbers & letters representing the dungeon, so you´ll have to switch in between to see which one you prefer)

:blink: ..... :blink: .... :eeeeeh:

damn i really need time to understand the game :help:

Try the key manual at http://206.51.238.2/extras/NetHack_Key%20Manual.pdf

Heh funny!

Well, I will try it someday (might be fun to fill my x-mas vacation)

Knew of this game for the longest time, but had never tried it. It's not bad, but I'm frustrated currently. One of my big questions is how do you sell things to vendors, as I'm tired of carrying crap around that I don't want ;)

Mouse

Simple: When youre in shop, drop the stuff that you want to sell.

King of the Rogue-Likes (Adom is the Queen)!

Nethack eh?
Ahhhh yes i remeber this.
Great game, not as good as ADOM,
but still a great game.
Ideal for passing a few hoursof bordom quitely while waiting for the kids to go to bed.

I actually thought Nethack was already on here! I love it though, and am defenantly pretty good at it too!

You mean maybe Netstorm - Islands of War, it was indeed here already since longer time.

No, although I love Netstorm, i was pretty sure Nethack was here with all the other rouge's that this site holds!

Mjolnir/Mj?lner is the hammer Tor/Thor wields (yes the danes pronounces him as Tor).

And he has it around his neck.

Ok, so, I just had to remove Nethack from my system. For some reason, it crashes XP (at least on my laptop) and restarts my machine. Not on every play, but about once out of every 5. Just can't deal with it splashing constantly ... :( And here I was just starting to get into it.

Mouse

Nethack is an old favourite of mine and I recently downloaded A.D.O.M but can not really understand how somebody preferes this to nethack.. ?? What am I missing with ADOM. It's much more simple, doesn't have even close the amount of scripted situations/places/possibilities. Am I missing something? Playing version 1.1.1 of Adom.

:help:

Alrighty, I cant believe ME of all people has to ask such a n00b question. This is the only RL that I haven't really gotten into, but I have a question.

e_e How do you feed pets? Whats the keyboard commands rather.

Just throw food at it (or a corpse). The pet is usually intelligent enough to eat corpses when it's hungry. :D

ahh, throw it at them, ok. Thought maybe that'd be considered an attack, but that makes sense. I knew they eat corpses and stuff when they move over them if they need to eat on their own, but I was curious for the pets that eat more spesific things, so I could save something, if they weren't hungry at that time. Thank yah!


To the ASCII, DakaSha!!

And dumb enough to kill and eat the friendly dwarves in the dwarven mines while you're being picked apart by a gaggle of gnomes, too. Or the friendly gnomes while the hostile dwarves attack... but at least their aren't quite so many dwarves.

Speaking as one of the less fortunate types, I can't see why people prefer ADOM either. Nethack at least gets me through the early areas before I'm killed by black dragons, hunting parties of mordor orcs or elves, rust eaters, swarms of killer bees, werewolves who pin me into a corner with the masses of bretheren they've summoned... the list goes on and on. ADOM kills me fast or leaves me to starve to death shortly after I kill the bandit leader or lure the chaos-infested carpenter to the healer.

All I seem to be doing is dying at the moment; managed to find a secret door that seemed to spawn Goblins! Yet I come back for more as I'm only just getting the hang of it. And I was very chuffed to find an OSX port on their homepage, with a great interface.

For all of you new to the game, and who need a proper manual, rather than just key-commands, here yah go :D If the admins think it'd be wise, I request it to be put in extras too. It's a website manual, no pdf or required downloads.

http://www.darkarts.co.za/repository/vultu...nual/index.html

Edit: The manual is for Vulture's Eye, a 3d graphical interface for Nethack, HOWEVER, everything about the game is the exact same, and it still works as a good Nethack manual.

So, forget about putting it in the extras. Wouldn't make sense to have Vulture's Eye manual under Nethack, even IF Vulture's Eye is Nethack anyways. :whistle:

Hi, I've never posted before but I've been coming for a while, I've just got a question.

Whenever I go to another level of the dungeon my pet won't follow me, and also, is it possible to ride the knights horse?

Thanks.

Your pet needs to be on the square next to you when you travel in order to follow you.
You can ride your pony using the #ride command.

Hope that helps :)
You really should get the quick referance posted in this thread.

Well, :D that was fun. Never put on unidentified rings that you find in chests filled with gems. Ended up being a cursed ring of random polymorphing and I poofed into something that couldn't survive hehe



Edot: Also, what the heck are the statues for? I remember reading somewhere that you can kick em and they might contain stuff, but it could have been a diffrent roguelike...

They'll sometimes spring to life as you pass by, I know that much... you can cast Stone to Flesh on them, too, but they usually aren't very thankful. A far better use for that spell is boulders; turns an annoying obstacle into something more filling than a food ration.

Don't even try to ride your pony as soon you get into the dungeon. At first level you're just going to kill yourself trying. Knights might get more skilled at getting onto their mount after a few levels, but I never tried it. The stupid horse always died or starved after exhausting my apples and carrots.

statues:
from a certain level onward (lvl7) destroyes statues have a chance to contain a free spellbook. so keep on smashing the arts.

if you find no spellbook the statue is still more usefull broken that unbroken - try casting 'stone to flesh' on the broken pieces. this is the reason why a healer with a pickaxe never dies of starvation...

net hack rules. i was in the mood for a new rpg, nic 1 guys for introducing me to it. if you want it to look a lot nicer and have an easy to use clicky interface (no typing needed) then go to this place falcons eye i found the game a lot easier after using this version. i guess its way to new to be hosted here though..

Technically, Falcon's Eye is no longer supported. It's now supported by someone else, and is called Vulture's Eye

cant find a download link for it on that site. it seems that version is maybe linux only.. if there is one could u link directly to it please?

reosen i ask is that i already spent a while on that site trying to find a downloadable version for windows and failed, and have downloaded versions of vultures eye from other sites with no luck, all of them have been for a platform that is not windows, and a few times falcons eye has generated levels with no way out, once i started in a room with no doors, got pretty board of kicking the walls.. is this a nethack problem or a falcons eye problem?

I got the win32 version from the main site - here's a link:

http://www.darkarts.co.za/projects/vulture...eye_win32-1.exe

It's about 13th on the Downloads list. The top 4 are Linux versions of Vulture's Claw with two different compression methods, then Windows Claw, Linux versions of the Eye and then Windows Eye, plus the MD5 sums for checking for errors.

sweet! nice 1 beef :ok:

edit: yeah baby it works like a charm, so far no unescapeableness has been generated and the dog has the heart back on his head... runs slower than falcons but falcons moved a bit to quickly so hey, and no problems in running in windows mode either, and the dog barks! arnt we lucky that people like to spend there free time doing stuff like this for no pay.

still cant get very deep without dieing though..

Vulture's Claw is fairly nice and all, but I dunno why. I can't stand it. When I press up, heh, I wanna go up, and I wanna see @'s and $'s :D

i like graphics, never played ascii games back in the day so there is no nostalgia value in it for me.
well i was just doing really well and then it generated an unescable level again...
am i just cursed or does it do that often?
im really annoyed actually, had managed to score an expensive camera and was having fun blinding things, then boom, unescapeable level generated.. and i had the mapping scroll so the map was able to confirm for me that there was no way ou. there was a room with the stairs down in it but it was unacsessable.
i just know im going to try again though...

edit: well tried again. gened up a mage. got to level 3 and it was just a room. no corridoors.... is this a problem with nethacks random generation thing or just vultures eye ? net hack veterens please respond ...

Actually, there are no "non-escapeable" rooms, you have to do s, run around doing s 20 times, then step, then s 20 more times, then step, if you have to. A LOT of times, the doors or "hallways" are invisible.

I also have faced this situation... The system is truely random. I have wasted more than 10 times creating, playing then found that there is no where to wander more... Some time I just start game in a room with stair up, no way to go any further. I don't know how to escape out of that box (with my fool wit) but I will try later.

But this game is hooked. :w00t: Even have to play it again and again, I can do so.

I love it :ok:

cool. will try that next time i go down a level and im in a room with no visable escape.. was beginning to think there was a fault in the games randomizer. just got down to level 6 with a wizard, starved to death tho ...
edit:
cool tried the s thing as level one seemed unescapable. found a doorway, fell down a trapdoor into the memory vault, gaurd told me to drop my gold... couldent find a command to drop gold, then the swine killed me...
damn this game is annoying but addictive.

Oh great, a game without true graphics or sound, with the game mechanics reminiscent of 10 000 versions of pong stacked on top of each other. I can see why this gets a 5 out of 5. And on top of that, it's basically endless.

Go play some ultima underworld instead.

Good words OMG, Annoying but addictive... I have tired all class all style playing (all of them are dead though) :( .

In my view, Tourist is the most funniest class for me, imagine that you are tourist adventuring in deadly dungeon with your best digital camera... :ok: cool!!

tsk tsk... where do these people spawn from ^_^

innit. i though game mechanics were a completley seperate thing to graphics, like i think with the endless possibilities in nethack there may be a level where you have to rebound a ball ,, havnt seen it yet though.
also he clearly hasnt checked out vultures eye if he is that desperate for graphics.

Yeah, kids these days. Put 'em in front of a text adventure and they go into instant graphics withdrawal. :bleh:
The point, oh easily flustered one, is that this game is actually unique each time, where Ultima Underworld's character creation was rigged and its levels were always the same. ASCII graphics require imagination (something sorely lacking in more than players these days), which Ultima Underworld's shoddy graphics killed the possibility of without providing anything exactly inspiring to make up for it. Nethack may be basically endless (I know I'm never going to manage to win it), but it gives you a lot more memorable events than "Yeah, I totally killed that orc" or "Aw man, the minotaur got me." Y'all come back when you can tell me about the elven monk who got turned into a mind flayer and had to figure out some way to avoid eating brains in NWN 2, okay?

you do get some absalutely crazy situations in this game. it p00ns. is actually the first thing that has dragged me away from my x box for a while. i had given up on pc gaming, mainly to clear room on my pc for Usefull things, but alas nethack (ok admitidally with vultures eye im not that hardcore) has got me chewing up hours gaming on my pc.
it kicks the behind man :ok:

Your absolutely right heh, you get into more situations than you could think possible. Graphics would actually HINDER the game. First time I died, I felt lucky and put on a ring. I ended up wearing a ring of polymorph, turned into a fly creature, and got crushed under my weight. Second time I wore too much, and fell down the stairs and died, Third time, I managed to get my hands on a scroll of genocide. Well, I wanted to gnocide those damned dwaves, but it ended up being a "cursed" scroll of genocide, and I ended up summoning 6-7 dwarved right in front of me.

what drove me a little crazy last night, had finally managed to level up my healer to the point where he could do stone to flesh. thougt brilliant no more starving.. found a pile of rocks, but buy the time i had found the rocks i was fainting from hunger and couldent cast the spell.... and that was after walking down a corridoor hearin someone saying "off with there heads" got to a room filled with some rather large nastys , luckily i was only pursued by a couple of them that i managed to scalpel up good, but starved anyway...
who would have thought i would get hooked to a game in which i starve to death all the time ...

Hey, thanks for the Vulture's eye tip - It runs better then Falcon's Eye, and hasn't crashed my system yet :)

Mouse

if you see a were rat run.. (or if you are a mage shoot the s.o.B) although once u turn into a were rat you can summon a horde of rats that will muller evrything in your path, but when u change u will have to drop evrything, and eating kind of becomes impossible.

damn im hooked on this game ...

Remember prayer. The gods have filled my starving adventurers' stomachs more than everything else they're capable of. Other useful things are healing (usually only when you're almost dead) and, curse removal and curing of lycanthropy.

Wererats have always been a minor pain to me. The werejackals are far more annoying, and if you're infected by a werewolf you can just forget trying to salvage your cloak or armor.

I really haven't had an issue with lycanthropy, but more often then not, potions and such get me killed. Anyone know a good way to get stuff identified fairly easy, besides getting lucky and finding identify scrolls?

Mouse

Throwing a ring into a sink gives some indication of what it is, but it generally loses the ring, too. ("The sink looks nothing like a faucet," for instance, would mean a ring of protection from shape changers.)

Potions are trickier, but you can throw one at an enemy and observe the effects.

Scrolls you pretty much have to read and hope, but you can get some idea by dropping them in a shop and seeing what offer you get. Identify scrolls aren't quite the cheapest out there, but they're close.

Zap wands at random enemies. You might help them, or turn them into something well-nigh-impossible, but you're far more likely to blast them.

There are a couple classes of item with few enough individual types that you can figure out what they are on your own. If you use a whistle and produce a high-pitched sound, name that kind of whistle tin and any that aren't listed as 'called tin' will be magic whistles that teleport your pet or other tame allies to your side. If you find a bag, it's either a sack (useless), an oilskin sack (also useless, as near as I can tell), a bag of tricks or a bag of holding. If a monster pops out when you use it, it's the bag of tricks-useful for sacrificing a lot of corpses to your god, if you find a shrine. If not, put something heavy in. If your carry weight doesn't go down, call it a sack and pitch it.

Finally, you can tell whether something is cursed by whether or not your pet doesn't want to walk over it or by dropping it on an altar. There are plenty of scrolls and potions that are dangerous even if blessed, the lodestone has a curse that activates as soon as you pick it up (so you should still be wary of gems), and some items (like the dunce cap, which looks like a wizard's cap when un-IDed) become cursed when worn, so you're never totally safe unless you've fulled IDed an item.

Oh, yes... one more thing about naming items. If you name an individual item instead of that type of item, it can turn it into a relic. The two examples I can think of right offhand are elven daggers named Sting and elven longswords named Orcrist. This is a nice way to get a quick bonus, but every named weapon in existence makes it harder to find another. So if your valk already has gauntlets of strength, it may be a better idea to wait for Mjolnir to be bestowed upon you instead.

Also, if I remember correctly, name an elven dagger Grimtooth, it's also an enchanted relic.

On another note, if you name an elven dagger Sting or Grimtooth, and it ends up being misspelled (e.g. Gremtooth) then the weapon ISNT an artifact. It goes misspelled on purpose, not a glitch or anything.

Edit: Sorry, that's orcish dagger can be named Grimtooth. It has to be called orcish, even though orcish daggers are crude daggers.

LOL if you get a chance to name a spell book dont name it necronomicon. you will go blind and get attacked by shreiking things. altho i was using a lawfull monk so i guess it could be different if you are chaotic

I have visited the floor that have to move the rock (but still haven't pass it yet...). You must think carefully because you cannot redo the mistake by going up or down. I think that if you are wizard this maybe easier with Force bolt spell and Earth spell.

You can find this floor by going up another one stair up that would be on floor five or six... The one will lead back to where you came and this one will lead you to the special floor.

Since me and my friend upload this, we chat each other about how we are dead more than what we have achieved... :blink:

Glorious Sokoban, with its teleport suppression field and boulders that won't roll diagonally. It has more than one level, and each is more difficult than the last, but if you manage to reach the treasure at the end you'll get either an amulet of reflection or a bag of holding. It's also a great place to stock up on food.

Hey, ppl.

NetHack is well known among the rogue-like style fans, yet it seems to be stuck on 3.4.3 since a long, long time. Anyhow, should you try ADOM:

http://www.adom.de/

and hack even more. It's really worth the visit. :Titan:

Oh! I almost forgot something for NetHack. It's a debug cheat (I didn't read all posts to see if it has been already posted here, sorry for any redundance) you will enjoy, if diggin' through the dungeons is simply not easy enough:
(Spoiler ahead!)
In command line (NetHack for DOS), instead of running 'nethack' with no arguments, try running 'nethack -d', that is, issue the '-d' (no quotes) argument. It actually stands for 'debug', I found that while peering on NH's source code. When the game begins, use the name 'wizard'. If everything's fine, you're now able to yield Ctrl+W to make wishes as well as a bunch of other type-and-use tricks. (I don't remember all the codes right now; do Ctrl+key and try'em all!) There's also a few # new commands if I do remember well.
That's it.

Cheers :)

Yep, hehe, we already know about ADOM, it's already here on this site. :ok:

http://www.abandonia.com/games/de/327/Anci...nsofMystery.htm

Cool, good to know about the debug mode. In some earlier versions of Nethack (when I was some 10-12 years old) the "wizard-mode" with the wishing and other stuff worked with "Nethack -w" or "Nethack -wizard" but not anymore. It was fun to be able to wish anything. Rings of polymorph and polymorph control.. Wands of death and such.

Good to know you can still do it, but with the -d.

EDIT: No you can't. :angry:

The newest DOS version doesn't work on my comp and in the newest Windows version it doesn't work. Even though it is the Windows version you can make a .bat or run it from the command prompt and it runs with the -d or -X or something, I still can't get it to run in wizard mode. If anyone knows how to do it, please tell me.

And oh, I remembered incorrectly, the command back then was "Nethack -X /wizard".. The -X to get you to explorer mode (where you can't die), otherwise the wizard mode wouldn't start. That one doesn't work anymore. -X gets you to start in explore mode, but you still can't get to wizard mode. Damn.

YET ANOTHER EDIT:

Could I feel more stupid?

It works... it's a capital D.. "Nethack -D". I only tried "Nethack -d"

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh!!!!!!!! :Titan:

Anyone know how to dertroy the wizard of Yendor?

I'm very hopeless now. I just have tried the wizard mode then wish for true amulet of yendor. I try to go out but was brought to battle with him instead even now I'm not dead yet though (I wish for a 100 of bleesed potion of gain level). I have killed him 20 times but he raised again each time...

Oh please! Help! :cry: I just curious what will be waiting for me in the end... (I'm not aware of him at all!)

honestly?
just feel the explorer mode is nothing but heresy...

so just saying that if you want, you can find it on google -

Hey omg,

Just so you know, they've updated, so the link in your sig doesn't work anymore. You might want to point to just the general downloads section instead.

Mouse

Yeah, I wasn't expecting NH to be case sensitive on its command-line arguments; anyway, that's it: the -D is the key. :max:
Oops! Ok, I didn't check that before adding. ;D

But seriously, these games are the most addictive, the most true 'roleplaying' expectative. Not that I consider myself experienced or acknowledged in this matter, but I can't think of any game (even these new state-of-the-art games of nowadays) that is as complex or as complete as NH, ADOM and such. This resembles to a long-lasting paradigm on the home-made game developer: many people have brilliant gaming ideas for a storyline/game structure/playing experience but they stop in mid-development when they're caught in lack of graphical resources. This so typical roguelike ASCII-output has been a solution to this problem, but with a side-effect: some people just won't like being an '@' and simply won't play a NetHack for this - one may consider dumb - reason, losing a much nicer experience and thus denying community support for the project.

What about, let's say, a REAL RPG MMO, or at least anything nearer to a 'true freedom of action', with respect to the current MMORPG fans ? Too hard to develop ? Not such a worthwhile effort allying graphical resources + roguelike gaming depth, at least for the sake of making a game as popular as it deserves to be ?

Cheers u all. :)

If such RPG would come out, it would probably be the most famous RPG ever made. But you will nowhere find anyone who will take on developing such game. It would take many years of work, and no company has so much money for it, and if it has, then no interest or ability to imagine.

i cant seem to download it at all it says the connection was refused. And beef the one you gave OMG well i get a 404 error not found when i click it...

EDIT i have the game now where the hell is the exe file :ranting:

EDIT2 deleted...

If you people like NetHack, by all means, you should try Slash'EM (which, IIRC, stands for Super Lots of Added Stuff Hack Extended Magic)!! It's an upgraded version of NetHack built on two of its variants, Slash and Nethack Extended Magic and, trust me, it's even better! You have new races, like the Vampire, the Doppleganger or the Werewolf, and new classes like the Yeoman or the Fire Mage. It has more items, artifacts, spells, special levels, special monsters, events and strange things to do, it has special techniques that your character can learn like going berserk or disarming an opponent. And... it's still supported, with a new version coming out about once in 2-3 months, which is great!

As an added bonus, to please everyone, it has the old ASCII graphics, but also three sets of graphic tiles (for those who prefer those) which are: the NetHack tiles, big better looking tiles and big isometric even better looking tiles.

So, what are you waiting for? Since I've found this game, I have never touched any other Rogue-like in existence.

www.slashem.org

Oh yeah, it has special shopkeeper services too (which you can acces by using the pay command when you don't owe the shopkeeper anything), which lets you identify, uncurse, enchant and charge your objects for a fee. Be careful though, if you have a low charisma (and we're talking about quite low here, like under 8), the shopkeeper might try to just steal your money and not do a thing on your stuff.

Just thought I would mention it, because I think it's really a great thing that you don't have to wait until you find this blessed scroll of identify to find out what all your gems are, and now, money is even more useful!

:wall: THIS GAME IS INSANE! I LOVE IT! The first time I died, it was from trying to ride a pony, I kid you not.

Haha, from riding a pony! :roflol:
I just downloaded the game but seem to not be able to find an exit from the short starting room, although I searched all the walls up without any success. Any ideas? It can't be that there's no exit from there, that would be pretty ridiculous, just started and stuck already... :whistle:

You have to search more than once, espically if you aren't a rogue. Sometimes you have to search 20 times or more (I just hold down the button for a second, if there's nothing dangerous around) for the secret door/space to pop up.

If such RPG would come out, it would probably be the most famous RPG ever made. But you will nowhere find anyone who will take on developing such game. It would take many years of work, and no company has so much money for it, and if it has, then no interest or ability to imagine. [/b][/quote]
http://www.bat.org/bat.php

Nuff said.

A text-based multiplayer game? Read your own quote above.
Nuff said.

just downloading slashem now. if it works im gonna be in hog heaven (minus the rolling down in mud thing)

sorry to bump this but i cant pm the unregistered member who bought up the subject of slashem. i would really like to get it to work with the glorios 3d tiles that are the top screenshot on the slashem homepage. however all i can get it to work withis the shady little tiles which after using vultures eye is a bit of a step back. any help would be greatly apreciated :ok:

The another thing I really want to add in this game is to make this game's high score can be view...

After I have made 100(perhaps, more...) list of the death, now I just want to know that who have failed below there... and what character type is the most killed

Another good Rougelike is Angband, no scripted encounters but a lot of fun in ASCII and with graphics tiles I think it is a bit easier to get into than Net hack but it is just 100 levels of hardcore fighting (levels generate every time you go up/down in other words if you complete level one and then go back to it it is a new level than the one you did before)

I would also recommand tales of middle eath (TOME), outdoors, towns and multiple dungeons ASCII and grapical tiles as well

links here

Angband
http://www.thangorodrim.net/
TOME
www.t-o-m-e.net

Hey guys, long time user (forgot my old account name).

Anyone who wants some hands-on guidance can join us over at #nethack on irc.freenode.net, where is all nethack, all the time. Its the official channel for the highest trafficked public nethack server, nethack.alt.org

I too just assumed nethack had been on abandonia all this time, wow. This is the only game I never get tired of.

i think my most frequent death was first from starvation, then from food poisoning, now at least its getting to being killed by monsters

is there a way to check if water is poisonous before drinking from the fountain? :D

No...

Drinking from fountain can cause a lot of trouble and you can't check that due to the randomly generated events.(still you can risk to get some benefit by reading the spoilers) The worse than being poisoned is being cursed or summon the water devil since you can use potions and unicon horn to cure... gaining extra bad luck by drinking fountain is also nasty trouble.

soooo, what the h or f does / (opulent throne) do? it vanished in a puff of logic when i sat on it

and is there a way to get your items identified, other tan through teh identify spell or trial and error/previous experience?

:sniper: Great game, also on Mac. I forget where to download it on mac just google it

The thrones do a lot of stuff. It's completely random. I'd advise you not to sit on them. Sometimes nothing seems to happen, sometimes you get a powerful weapon, but most of the time the room fills with dragons and demons or lava or stuff like that. I never sit on them.

And I don't think there's any other way to identify stuff, at least without losing them. If you drop rings into a sink, for example, it sometimes lets you know what the ring is (for example, if the sink looks like something else for a moment, it was a ring of polymorph) but the ring disappears, so it's not very useful.

You can drop stuff on altars to see if they're cursed or not, that's useful. You won't know anything else than if it's cursed, uncursed or blessed, though.

You can also throw potions on monsters and the monster gets the effect of the potion. That way you can sometimes identify potions, but if it's a good potion, it helps the monster and that's a bad thing.

just started yet another game. still in the learning phase. but check this out:

my wizard randomly started with a book of IDENTIFY

two words boo, yah

Nethack rulez 4ever.
I've downloaded source code of vulture's and started to mmodifying code a little :D I added useful changes, eg. unlimited zaps, polymorphing to anything... Cause I want to see ending of game :D But I don't know how to solve game with TRUE Amulet of Yendor. I've killed Wizard many times (I've seen 2 of them, too). But it isnt' solving game. How can I see the true ending?

Ah, the ending... with the Amulet. The Wizard of Yendor has hired help, and hasn't had the Amulet for years (since Nethack 3.1.x I think). You must seek the Oracle, give him the money and listen to his words.

What, you don't want to waste your precious money? Well ok, here is what he'll tell you:

“It is said that thou mayst gain entry to Moloch's Sanctuary, if thou darest, from a place where the ground vibrateth in the deepest depths of Gehennom. Thou needs must have the aid of three magical items. The pure sound of a silver bell shall announce thee. The terrible runes, read from Moloch's book, shall cause the earth to tremble mightily. The light of an enchanted candelabrum shall show thee the way”.

The classic case of the book, the bell and the candle.

:wallbash: In the version I have, you can use a pick-axe(or something similar) to make your own tunnels, or dig down to the next level :wallbash:

I think this is the game I've played for the longest of time in total and all I could achieve was a nearly win where I've offered the amulet ON THE WRONG ALTAR! Damn!

You hear Neiman and Marcus arguing! and someone shouts "Off whith her head!" (could it be the Queen of Hearts?)

Also be sure to see if Schroedinger's Cat is dead or alive if you ever encounter a quantum mechanic.

Don't play on Friday the 13th :wallbash:

Every game ended in misery due to my characters all having very bad luck

so far as I can tell, this game is a food poison simulator. Every one of my games ends in the same way: run around the dungeon, run out of food, get too hungry to do anything, eat a corpse, get poisoned and die.

I had a seven hour train ride that I wasted mostly on this game, and I've yet to get a character past level 4. They all die from food poisoning.

Never eat something that isn't proper food or that you haven't freshly killed. A corpse that lies around for a while goes rotten. If you get food poisoning, you can cure it with a unicorn horn or by eating a rotten egg to induce vomiting. Praying will work if you're in favour with your God, but don't do that too often or you won't be.

This game is awesome. No idea how often I died and how often I stumble over my former possessions, pets and corpses... even got killed by my own ghost. There are versions for mobile phones now... gotta get one for summer.

"Killed by a hallucinogen-distorted fire ant." Great.

I have this installed and use it to kill off some time from now and then... A wonderful game =))

Be sure never to eat corpses left by Mummies or Zombies. They give you food poisoning every time you eat. As well pray only once in the 3000 steps otherwise you could be in trouble. When Im nearly dieing of hunger i mostly eat a zombie then pray en then go down futher, you will encounter more monsters who could leave a corpse.

I've been palying this game all night and it still makes hardly any sense to me. Fun besides I suppose. Got some good advice from reading all the posts in the thread : p Whoever came up with this game was sadistic though!

--Zokushi

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(zokushi @ Sep 25 2007, 03:02 AM) [snapback]313028[/snapback]</div>One night? I was first exposed to Hack (one of the earliest PC ports) while I was a student at UCLA in the late 80's. Been playing all of the various versions of the game since then for over 20 years. I can't tell you how many times I've died, but I have beaten the game ... once. (As a Samurai)

The amzaing amount of content in this game is indescribeable. There just isn't anything like it, anywhere, period. The other cool thing about it is that it will run on just about any system you can think of. I've played Nethack on my old IBM Thinkpad (which doesn't have a good enough graphics card to play many "modern" games), on numerous Unix/Linux platforms, and on every PC I've ever owned since 1986. Starting with a wonderful XT Turbo "Clone" with a green screen all the way up to the AMD Athlon 64 3700+ I'm using right now with a 19" flatscreen. And no matter what ... you can adjust the configuration file to make it run beautifully.

Someone mentioned Falcon's Eye in an earlier thread. That's a nice alternatvie if you just HAVE to have graphics. But if you really get into the game, be sure to seek out more info (and war stories) on the official site and various usenet groups dedicated to the subject. You aren't alone by a long shot!

Surely the best game ever.

Very steep learning curve - you almost need a teacher. But it's utterly brilliant.

I've played it on and off for maybe 15 years. It never gets old.

I've played Nethack alot, but I started out with this game called Rogue, which is quite similar, only black and white CGA graphics... Anyone know it?

yeah, rogue was awesome game

Nethack is too hardcore for me. Even with the wishes cheat and infinite lives I still can't beat it. *sigh*

I still think it's fun but I've pretty much given up hope on beating it.

It is hard even in wizard mode, but once you know a few things (e.g., what to whish for...), it is possible to beat it.

The only thing that really annoys me is the "end-game", where you are constantly cursed by the wizard of yendor. Very unpleasant, and I did not found a good way to get rid of the curses.

I used to play nethack a bit when I was a kid, I never got past maybe 5 or so dungeons but for some reason, the controls and stuff makes sense to me way more than other similar games (like mines of moria and rogue) How many levels/how long is nethack though, I know its huge but I never really understood how huge.

pretty addicting game i m playing since hours :nuts:
but some commands dont seem to work for me.
Cant use C for call for example. and a few others wont work either.
Any ideas? :confused:

That's because Nethack is retarded and a lot of the commands are pointless.
Like the chat command for the most part. You just won't need to use some of them.

The pets are also totally pointless, unless you consider the random spaced out times they actually kill anything as a indicator of their usefulness.

After reading some of this thread, I downloaded and started playing again, its soooo addictive but frusterating when somthing competely out of the blue kills you, i just have to keep learning and tryin' though.

The most frequent cause of death of most of my various characters, without counting some random stupid things, is starvation or death from eating something trying to solve his starvation.

Each time i am out of food, strangely every creatures that are potentially eligible as food turn to be either food killing my character on spot or food poisoning him etc... while in the beginning those creatures that seemed to be the same type could be eaten by my characters.

I heard about wishing, but each time starvation hit the spot, my character is far from the time wishing is a possibility.
I read prayer sometime can help, but if it helps it is only once, as after that it does not work anymore.

Are there ways to fight starvation without being of very high level or is it just one of those random things created to kill characters unless you exploit some kind of game mechanism ?

I play Slash'em, but it is so similar to Nethack, I guess my question can go here...

Anyway, I would LOVE to play races such as wizards and priests... except I can't cast spells.

I mean, I play my game, cast my spells (and sometimes not), kill creatures... and when my back is against the wall, I decide to unleash a storm of magical powers. So here goes nothing... I cast Force Bolt

Wait.... whats this 100% fail thing?

For some reason, my spells seem to CONSTANTLY increase in thier fail chance. Not only that, but I can't seem to be able to learn new spells (They ALWAYS, without exception, have a 100% fail chance). So my question is simple: What do you do to get that fail chance lower? I tried practicing my spells, I tried not using my spells, I tried reading the spell book over and over and over ... but I cannot, no matter what I try to do, get the fail chance to decrease. In fact, it just steadily decays at the same rate!?

Help?

(PS. Slash'em is an interesting game... if you are not gnomish, or dwarvish, you will have a hard time surviving past Dlvl 4/5, when you emerge in the Gnomish mines (Not 100% sure if that is in Nethack, but I don't think it is)... hundreds and thousands of Gnomes and Dwarves which usually hate you if you are not Gnomish or Dwarvish ;) )

Isn't Nethack freeware, not abandonware? I mean, I don't mind it being here but just saying..

That's why it has the Freeware tag.

you just got me... will waste tomorrow on it!

Just in case the super old-school graphics interface bothers anyone as it bothers me (OK I'm a new school kiddie, so sue me), check out the Vulture's Eye or the Falcon's Eye, which are basically isometric remakes, the Falcon's Eye being especially graphics driven.

I was totaly driven by atmosphere to try this one but graphics and pushed me away. I hope someone(developers) will use this control system on better looking RPG in the future.

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I can't play this game in fullscreen on vista for some reason. It says "this system does not support fullscreen mode." It works fine on my other comp, which runs XP. What gives? Can somone help me with this, it's very annoying.

Works fine on Vista for me. Did you download the Abandonia version of the game? Looks like you have the DOS version, if that's the case try DOSBox.

As written Vista does not support fullscreen mode. Each program/game which uses DOS can't be shown in fullscreen, not even the Command Line can't be.

As mentioned by zirkoni - you can try to use Dosbox. Here is a step-by-step tutorial on how to use it :)

two questions that bother me and i can't find answer for.

i know this game is also based on chance. however i find it strange - a few times i started with character i can't even get to level 2. there are just two halways form the room i started in and that's it. i wasn't archeologist or somethign with a pickaxe and such. my quesiton is is it possible that the game becomes completely impossible to finish in it's iteration?! in a way that you are doomed from the start? i mean i know it can be very very hard to finish. but impossible form start. that would be kind of stupid.

another quesiton i can't find the answer to is pets. i am aware of their usefullness, but what bothers me is that they keep going arorund instead of following you. they are just so easy to loose. and you spend a lot of time waiting for them and such. that's a bit silly... my quesiton is is there a trick with keeping them near you?

Yeah, I also got stuck in a level. Tried searching, found some hidden doors - but leading nowhere. Tried pickaxe, only to find that this rock is too hard for digging. Is it possible to dig a hole down to another level?

EDIT: OK, I found the reason, I need to go back (up) a bit...