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Sebatianos 29-01-2006 09:05 PM

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available)

Master MC 29-01-2006 09:20 PM

Looks really nice, I love historic games. I'm going to give it a try tomorrow.

Guest 30-01-2006 01:52 AM

I'd like to play this game, but whenever I click "get it", I get a server error. Does anyone know why this is happening?

James 30-01-2006 07:50 AM

This game runs well under windows xp i just downloaded it and looked around the game itself is very detailed and it contains a good manual which explains everything i have yet to do any battles or anything like that but i will try tommorow i would recommend it if you like a war strategy game.

Sebatianos 30-01-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Guest@Jan 30 2006, 04:52 AM
whenever I click "get it", I get a server error
Are you using any download programes? They may not work. Try downloading directly (it works fine for me).

Rorschach 30-01-2006 11:34 AM

Hey Sebastianos, that review wasn't much helpful, too much history lesson, and only one short paragraph with a general overview of the game... As far as introductions go, we pretty much have only the screenshots to go by... :/

Sebatianos 30-01-2006 11:50 AM

I wanted people to get interested in the game, not explain it in detail. You also have the editor's and the public rating (both in favour of the game). The game is strategic - meaning you need to make units to fight with, move units, win fights, conquer cities, and ensure you'll be able to make more amred forces, while defending your theritory. There's a lot of micromanagment, but that's all in the manual (that's why it's there for). The graphics are obvious from the screenshots (and are really nice) and the sound is OK. The game is controled with the mouse. To find out anything else - simply download and try (downloads are free you know).

And about the history lesson - the game is historical, so you should know the background of it - the Punic Wars.

Guest 30-01-2006 10:00 PM

Quote:


Are you using any download programes? They may not work. Try downloading directly (it works fine for me).

No, just normal downloading. I've tried a few random games, and for me, none of those are downloadable either. It's odd, because this problem has only happened to me within the past two weeks or so. In the past, I've had no problems at all.

... 31-01-2006 04:33 AM

I gave it a 2

because we can't control the troops while fighting.

velik_m 31-01-2006 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Rorschach@Jan 30 2006, 12:34 PM
Hey Sebastianos, that review wasn't much helpful, too much history lesson, and only one short paragraph with a general overview of the game... As far as introductions go, we pretty much have only the screenshots to go by... :/
i have to agree, just marking a game "strategy" really doesn't give mush to go on. Is the game real-time or turn based? Is it more like centurion or caesar? is it more military oriented or is the economy the focus? or is it 4x like civ?

this review is just bad :not_ok:

Sebatianos 31-01-2006 10:58 AM

You're more then welcome to write a new one (I'll replace it myself) and you'll get the credit for it (naturally).

pachoo 31-01-2006 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by Sebatianos@Jan 31 2006, 07:58 AM
You're more then welcome to write a new one (I'll replace it myself) and you'll get the credit for it (naturally).
I agree with Seb. What are you guys complaining for? You get to download a game for FREE on a well designed site! At least there's a review and screenshots...most abandonware sites don't even have screenshots OR reviews.

Sven 01-02-2006 09:24 AM

BTW, it's actually called 'Carthage' not 'Cartage'

Sebatianos 01-02-2006 10:50 AM

Damn, you're right (need to switch off the automatic spell checker). Didn't even notice it :tnx:

Mezza 01-02-2006 07:45 PM

As a kid I loved to play Centurion, so this review got my excited enough to download the game. :D

The Romans can rally about 0,4% of their population for the army? Is there a way for Carthage to do so? :Titan:

Sebatianos 01-02-2006 08:06 PM

The size of the army depends on how much money you spend on it, but I'm not sure if there's any kind of a limit (haven't reached one it yet at least).

Mezza 03-02-2006 02:36 PM

I meant that they can rally 0,4% at once, boosting their armies with 30.000 soldiers. No way Carthage can do that I guess.

Sebatianos 03-02-2006 05:18 PM

Nope sorry. I haven't find anything like it, nor is it mentioned in the manual.

Yobor 05-02-2006 03:05 AM

I love the games that are like Centurion, and all the ones about ancient Rome. Love it!

Carthage Game 06-02-2006 08:25 AM

I have finished the game and I don't think Carthage can get 0.4% of their people enrolled in the army at one time - I found the best way to get heaps of soldiers was to move an army/s across lots of territory and collecting mercenaries on the way and not going over the same towns for a period( big towns give more mercenaries) - also the more towns you take from the romans - actual roman towns - the less men enroll in their army each year

rojaba 06-02-2006 08:35 AM

i just love this game, played it at a friend's when it first came out and I think it's quite cool to have found it again. Just one question: are there any cheats for this game? i've heard of a hex cheat but I can't seem to find the directory where the game stores the savegame files.

Guest 06-02-2006 09:16 AM

This game sucks. Battles take forever. Movement take forever. Everything takes Way. Too. Much. Time.

Sebatianos 06-02-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Guest@Feb 6 2006, 12:16 PM
Battles take forever. Movement take forever.
So, you're running a slow computer no capable of handeling the speed of the game?
:yawn:

Or are you a really impatient person who needs to have quck flashes all the time - otherwise the game is boring?
<_<

... 07-02-2006 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Guest@Feb 6 2006, 10:16 AM
Everything takes Way. Too. Much. Time.

Do you mean it takes too much time to monitor the troops...

It can be much user friendly if we can change the size of the map while moving.

It seems that we must check the destination all the time on the grand map before we move...


Carthage GAme 13-02-2006 02:52 AM

Whats the best way of acquiring troops? Just walking through the place and gathering mercenaries? ( I seem to loose more troops walking than i can get in towns). Dows throwing loads of money in the army treasure increase troops??

CarthageGame 07-03-2006 04:26 AM

A good way to lose less troops on the march is to split the army, have them go their own seperate ways collecting troops as they go, then meeting up if there is an enemy army to face - you will still lose troops but I have found you lose less moving them in smaller groups.

lOrDrApHaEl_ 21-03-2006 09:34 AM

Hallo !

I am lucky to See thet someone play the game !!!

But im have a Question :

Have someoney a guidance are description for this game ?
It´s importantly for the War Taktics

Contact :

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Angry Strat-fan 30-03-2006 01:55 AM

Played this game a long time ago...

I can remember i was disappointed - nice grafix & music, but NO AI (it just freezes at some point) & very tedious gameplay with semi-random battle outcomes.

For those who gives it a try anyway, i can give one good advice: DO NOT CONQUER CITIES, MAKE ALLIANCES INSTEAD. Allied cities never revolt, plus they provide additional troops after negotiations.

Real Hannibal tried to do exactly, after all... (no wonder - Carthage had about 1/10 of the Roman manpower, as sources indicate!)

Atanatos 22-05-2006 09:30 PM

Hi,

i don´t get the game running on my PC (Win 98SE). Any Ideas?

grtz


Japo 22-05-2006 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by Atanatos@May 22 2006, 11:30 PM
i don´t get the game running on my PC (Win 98SE). Any Ideas?
It runs in my Win98SE. Have you tried clicking "Han" (batch file)?

Quote:

Allied cities never revolt
I'd like that to be true, but allied cities, even those which are yours at the start of the game, can revolt.

The worst thing about this game is the lousy interface.

Frankie 10-11-2006 10:58 AM

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Whats the best way of acquiring troops? Just walking through the place and gathering mercenaries? ( I seem to loose more troops walking than i can get in towns). Dows throwing loads of money in the army treasure increase troops??
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I took a contingent of 1000 troops and sent them to Egypt and the Phoenician cities, then returned in a year with forty-thousand soldiers, lots of horses and elephants. Just what I needed to sack Rome.

DEB 26-01-2007 12:29 AM

Hello HANNIBAL players.

I note the "Manual" fails to give any Victory Conditions.

I presume that "The Player" has to capture Rome, before losing Carthage, and that a time limit may be involved ( ie before the end of 201/200 BC ).

Can anyone advise me of the Actual Victory Conditions.

Many thanks.

Alli 17-03-2007 08:04 PM

Dieses Spiel hat mich damals total fasziniert, ich hab es nächteweise gezockt. Good old times!

Ich hatte mal den Ehrgeiz, die ganze Karte 'grün' zu färben! Hätte nicht gedacht, dieses Spiel nochmal zu finden.

Vielen Dank an die, die es hier bereit gestellt haben!!! :ok:

DEB 17-03-2007 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Dieses Spiel hat mich damals total fasziniert, ich hab es nächteweise gezockt. Good old times!

Ich hatte mal den Ehrgeiz, die ganze Karte 'grün' zu färben! Hätte nicht gedacht, dieses Spiel nochmal zu finden.

Vielen Dank an die, die es hier bereit gestellt haben!!! :ok:
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:sos: Ist deutsch? 60% deutsch? Ich nicht sprechen deutsch ( vor 35 jahr )!

I think the above says that you must play the game to find the victory conditions - and fill the map with green ( Carthaginian controlled/friendly cities ). Can anyone confirm?
A history book on the Punic Wars that I am reading, says that Hannibal's plan was to isolate Rome from her allies ( rather than capture Rome ), by getting them to become Carthaginian Allies; so this would make sense. If so :

1. Is it a percentage of the total cities on the map that triggers victory? If so, what is this percentage? OR
2. Is it done by comparing the amount of Carthage Green to Roman Red. ( This seems more likely. ) If so,
how much bigger does Carthage have to be?

Thanks.

( Vielen Dank. )

Guest 18-03-2007 04:06 PM

Ooops sorry, somehow I didn't realise this is an English forum.

I was saying that I was really enjoying this game, back then. I remember that I tried to 'paint' all the map green, that is to say to conquer all citites. If I remember right, I almost achieved it, except of the minor asian towns.

But you don't have to go that far for victory: capture Rome and you are done :brain:

This is most easily done, if you just starve them. Let an army siege it, till they run out of food.

I just found that apparently the battle options don't influence the outcome: it seems to be pure random!! So it doesn't matter what formation you choose, just watch the status of the battle, if it looks bad cancel and flee.

Rome draws the 0,4% new troops in october, where you get new troops in april, from some cities. I haven't found out how you can influence the amount, maybe being nice (low taxes) helps?




Alli 18-03-2007 04:08 PM

Forgot this:

I don't know about any timelimit, I think there is none.

Guest_DEB_* 19-03-2007 08:06 PM

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Quote:

Forgot this:

I don't know about any timelimit, I think there is none.
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Thanks for the comments; your English is very good!

Nobodygreat 27-07-2008 04:37 AM

beat the game
 
i beat thew game when it first came out once you beat it it tells you about a part 2 that suppose to come out
i dont see it?

Japo 27-07-2008 09:59 AM

It was made by a small company and wasn't a very popular game, it's likely that the makers didn't live to fulfill the sequel. :_(

I liked this game but long into the war my rich Spanish cities started to revolt for no apparent reason... :S I wonder if it's supposed to be some kind of event hard coded into the game... I quit playing. I'll beat it some day...

laiocfar 30-07-2008 05:25 PM

The game is good in general terms but it can become quite annoying. Example: armies fighting with a 3 to 1 advantage that loses; or unprovoked revolts; or 20% desertion rate per march in your biggest army who is heading to Rome.

LaFey 02-08-2008 02:48 AM

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armies fighting with a 3 to 1 advantage that loses; or unprovoked revolts; or 20% desertion rate per march in your biggest army who is heading to Rome.
Quote:

I liked this game but long into the war my rich Spanish cities started to revolt for no apparent reason...
This is just what happened historically. There are plenty of nice books if you are interested in the subject.

Alliances in those days were shortlived. When Hannibal's main force was far away - his "allies" easily turned against Carthage.

Japo 11-12-2008 09:06 PM

I love this game's premises and it could have been awesome for me, but I must say it's VERY poorly made. It seems as if they tried to win the Guiness Record for worst interface ever. The AI is nonexistant and there is no challenge.

Well I guess it's addicting enough to beat it at least once. :( I'd love some game about this but better made. I think I'll try Rome Total War afterwards, it's sitting on my shelf still wrapped and all.

celibat 24-12-2010 03:52 PM

The game is very interesting and tough one. You need a lot of time to finish it and you must conquer step by step, without rushing it. It's almost impossible to conquer Rome by siege. The better way is to conquer so much cities that the game gives up itslef. Tactics are important during battles and depending much of the armies you have.

Very entertainment one!

malevoiy 17-05-2013 11:02 AM

they should rewrite the code for real time and multiplayer, that would be great :>

btw. you get most soldiers from negotiation with carthage-friendlies or neutrals (besides mercenaries)
and you can lower the rebellion ratio - simply put an army into your colony

btw. has anyone the music of the game extracted?

Tracker 17-05-2013 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by malevoiy (Post 452751)
btw. has anyone the music of the game extracted?

We currently do not host the OST of Hannibal, but I guess if you had written a thread asking for it in Request Games, we could find someone who has it.


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