Just curious. and bored :bleh:

Darned right I don't smoke
Not now;
Not ever.

Rumour is, that Germans smoke a lot!

This actually belongs in another thread. One that you opened :whistle:
kidding. I'd say 40% of the germans smoke.

Nope I don't see the point of it, it's not mind altering :sneaky:, it's not tasty...

7 Votes and No Smokers. Damn we're geeky :ph34r:

Nope. Never could come up with a good reason for doing so.

I don't.
And if TheVoid says otherwise, don't listen to him.

Occasionally. Usually when I drink. So that's actually rather often... :blink: :bleh:

Only (small) cigars, though, no cigarettes (only when I'm REALLY drunk...)

How about an option for "not normally, but occasionally when drinking"? Or a "well, not cigarettes..." answer?

the only thing i smoked was a burning tube paper...almost got intoxicated...deh ..i was little and dumb...or let's just say little

Non smoker.

Not planning on smoking, either.

I smoke a lot. Almost one packet(20cigs) a day. I'm not proud of it though, but nobody gave me a reason to quit besides that "you gonna die" blabbering. So I will die, no matter if I smoke or not...

Now you're asking for it :w00t:

I'll give another reason: It smells, and the people around you take the fall with you. :)
Wow, that's two in one try.

Passionate non-smoker here :P

Ooook....

You smell bad, your breath smells, your teeth get yellow, you probably cough often, you spend your cash on something that doesn't even give you pleasure and the only reason you smoke it, is that you got addicted to it for whatever the reasons were (probably to socialize)...

Just think a packet/day let's say 3€*365= well you do the math :w00t:

I'm not saying you're evil cause you smoke or anything but you asked for reasons...

And that's cheap!

uhuh... but you don't even botherd by it, you don't recieve these symptoms over the internet ;) And the people around me doesn't even care about it. Gabi doesn't like it though, so I'm off to quit now. When I meant "reason" I meant REAL reason... Like her :D

Ooook....

You smell bad, your breath smells, your teeth get yellow, you probably cough often, you spend your cash on something that doesn't even give you pleasure and the only reason you smoke it, is that you got addicted to it for whatever the reasons were (probably to socialize)...

Just think a packet/day let's say 3€*365= well you do the math :w00t:

I'm not saying you're evil cause you smoke or anything but you asked for reasons... [/b][/quote]
Here they're dead expensive.. tons of tax from the government.

Yeah but I think they're cheaper in Hungary, or at least they used to be...

If money isn't a real reason, then I don't know what is... (well ok except your love)

Non-Smoker but between the ages of 15 and 22 I smoked 40 a day. I quite liked smoking, I just didn't like the effect it had on my ability as a woodwind player/singer (and I wouldn't be married now if I hadn't given up!).

Ahhh, hahah... Depends on what kinda Smoke you define, what do you mean exactly, Ciggarettes? I smoke smokes when I'm drivin' around mainly, cuz of all the wreckless crazy drivers in the world, as for smoking other stuff :whistle: I will leave that to you guys' imaginations. -_- :angel:

Well, I have to confess that I tryed and didn't like it... so never touched that stuff again and I don't intent to.

One thing I noticed is that most "smokers" have no respect for "non-smokers"... I had a co-worker at my old job that used to say that he had the right to smoke as much as I had the right not to smoke (sorry about my bad English, but it's over midnight here and my brain is already falling asleep :P ); of course that my "no-smoking" never bother him, but his smoke often bothered me....

Since grade 6. ...infact I just came in from one.

Yeah, there needs to be another option ;)

But even so I used to smoke both, (I used to smoke rollies, not cigarettes) but quit in August last year

and ruin my voice? are you joking?!?!?!?!

Smoking's gross. :D

Non smoking is just disgusting. Shame on you non smokers.

He certainly has a point there :D This is like vegetarians and meat eaters, why harass each other?

I smoke during the winter, and when its generally pretty cold outside. When it is hot out, I have no desire whatsoever to smoke, so I don't.

Its relaxing, I do enjoy it, and I don't pay a lot of money for my cigarettes.

I don't understand chain-smokers though. While I've done that before, when at a party or such, I rarely ever do though. When its like that, you arn't even enjoying the cigarette, you're just making yourself sick.

Examples of my consumption. Last week, one pack. This week, only 4 cigarettes total.

I occasionally smoke a hookah, maybe once every two months. The water filters most the tar out of the smoke and I haven't noticed a nicotine buzz.

Where I live, smoking in the pubs and resturaunts has been banned, so I can go out drinkin and not reek of stale cigarette smoke. :cheers:

never had a ciggy in my life, so i wouldnt know. :angry:

It'd be 1095 Euros, which is fair enough, as a lot of people find it very relaxing. You might as well do that.

I don't smoke tobacco (never have), but I have tried ganja, which is basically ace. I have to agree with Beef, there should be a "well... not tobacco" option and also a "only socially" option.

Agreed!

I smoke cigars on occations that call for a celebratory smoke. Cigarettes taste plain bad compared to cigars! (I've had 1 puff of a cigarette and no more).

On the whole I dont really like it but sometimes, its quite nice... but not all the time! :sick:

Never smoked. I've been asthmatic since I was 2. It amazes me when I see my pulmonologist how many people who have severe respiratory illnesses nonetheless smoke. It's bad enough when you're healthy, but when you have bronchitis, asthma or emphysema, it's like putting yourself in a wheelchair. :blink:

I dont smoke.

This was supposed to be about the basic question.
Oh, and by the way: I think smoking is gross.
about 7-10 people in my class smoke, 4 of them are
16. Everytime the break is over and they come back up into
the classroom, it stinks. I wouldn't be one of them.
Another thing: If you're under 16, do your parents smoke?
My father sometimes smokes cigar or pipe on late
summer evenings, but that's about it.

If you've ever kissed a smoker, you'll have all the reason you'll ever need to never touch those things.

I do not plan on kissing a smoker. I can't stand even being around them.

Oooo,no under-16-smokers!
Good thing my class didn't vote... :whistle:

Meh... smoking makes your clothes and house smell bad... but I can enjoy a good cigar or even a pipe on occasion... I voted No, I don't smoke however, because these occasions occur about three times a year...

Do you think there is a correlation between the use of cigarettes and one's country?

......are you saying your not cool if you dont smoke?.......it dosent mean we are geeky it means we are healthy

And i dont smoke i have friends that do but ........ i know how unhealthy it is.....

......are you saying your not cool if you dont smoke?.......it dosent mean we are geeky it means we are healthy

And i dont smoke i have friends that do but ........ i know how unhealthy it is..... [/b][/quote]
yeah I think the smokers are the geeks ...

look:

I am 26 years old. I love old DOS games. I smoke. I have a job in IT. I have two PCs plus 1 MAC at home. I wear glasses. I spend most of the really free "free time" speaking English instead of my native language, I listen to Techno, I am pretty sure that there is life in outer space, I know about quantum physics and the string theory, I drive a tuned VW Golf ..... when that doesn't sound like the perfect clichée of a geek/nerd/whatever then I don't know ...

:cry: - I should really go out and get a life ... :D

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Oh wait ... I have a perfect 10 as girlfriend. I go to parties. I drink alcohol in public places with my real life friends, I am living on my own in my own flat, I wash the dishes myself and am able to prepare eatable food ...

:blink: maybe I am quite "normal" ...

But maybe just NOONE fits into any clichee ... ever ...

Too bad, German is a really beautiful language.
I would love to learn it some day, efficiently that is. German at school only consists of reading texts :tai:
But I must say my German is the best of my class.

Uh.. no?

I kissed a smoker, both before and after I started (and quit) smoking myself. I really don't notice any difference.

To correct FPJ he probably meant immediatly after smoking meaning no breath refreshment taken...

Note to self: Visit the "Cool Prejudices" thread and add, "Icelanders' taste buds freeze off at the age of six weeks...which explains the whole hakarl thing."

Hey, don't diss hákarl :ranting:
And Tulac, no breath refreshments involved.

Hmmm then it must be true...

Im going to take that as a Joke....

Ummm yeah, cause it was one ;)

I'm sure my girlfriend would leave me if i did...

Certainly. From what I hear, every Russian over the age of six is required by law to smoke at least a pack a day. Children frequently lie about their age so that they can get an early start.

Wrong topic!!11111

I like the smell of cigarette smoke, but I do not smoke myself. I would not, either. I simply enjoy second-hand smoke.

I smoke 20 cigs a day, more if I'm working.

snus....

I smoke 20 cigars by day, i need to try let down ........ :whistle:

I loathe when smoke smell gets on my clothes, so I was kind of fine when a law against smoking in most public closed spaces was approved.

I've almost completely given up any cig-smoking, it's not nearly as enjoyable as ganja and it's quite bothering to other people. Candy is ace and costs way less.

And kissing a smoker is not worse than kissing someone who ate garlic or onion.

I hate the smell of cigarette smoke, it makes me cough and feel sick.

I've kissed a smoker...it was possibly one of the worst experiences of my life. I didn't want to kiss any girl for a long time after that.

Smoking does bad things to a singer's throat and vocal chords.

My conclusion: Smoking is very bad...I shall not partake of it.

watcha talkin about willis ?

A friend of mine smokes cigars and when he is here I sometimes join him in that but I do not allow people to smoke indoors (even him).
Cigarettes are discusting.

cigarettes are disgusting. Cigars are ok. They smell like summer

I don't smoke. It's unhealthy, it turns your teeth and fingers yellow, it makes your breath smell bad and if you're a man it causes impotence and if you're a woman it makes your breasts saggy.

LOL

Quite true. But have you ever met anyone who was so strung out that he was going to start strangling people if he didn't get a clove of garlic in the next five minutes?

Quite true. But have you ever met anyone who was so strung out that he was going to start strangling people if he didn't get a clove of garlic in the next five minutes? [/b][/quote]
Dr Van Helsing ? :ph34r:

Off topic but in Dutch the adjective to a last name is not capitalized. i.e. van Helzing not Van Helzing (pet peeve).

Ah yes, but Van Helsing is the title of an American film, so you can hardly blame the error.

Just like Victor van Damme being renamed to Victor von Doom in the film version of "Fantastic Four". *grits teeth*

Anyway, I digress.

Smoking is bad, kids.

I believe you mean japanese garphic novel? :sneaky:
and on that matter I doubt he would eat onions, even though he is imune to most anti-vampyric measuers (such as sunlight and running watter), he does mention they cause him much discomfort.

on the matter of smoking: I don't believe you guys are honest, most of my smoking friends started before they were 16.

Does anybody know that van Helzing is a character from Bram Stokers book "Dracula"?

propaganda!
increased (several times) risk of lung cancer- I would say yes.
trouble breathing- most definetly!
but impotence? nail pigmentation change? pardon the pun but 'what have you been smoking?!'

P.S. no, I don't smoke. for economic reasons. ( I live off 30$ a week and I have to get to the Uni myself)

Actually this is true.

uh... is it? :blink:
you're a serious man, so I will take your word for it. but I'd prefer to see some evidence.

As a matter of fact i do, and that's what i had in mind when i wrote that post about van Helsing. I'd die before refering to the horsecrap movie. I didn't know about that non-capital V thing though. Now i do. But i still think it's van Helsing, not van Helzing. :blink:

Edit : To get back on topic and answer a1s' question, yes it's true. I've been smoking for more than 20 years, and i've got yellow teeth, fingertips and i'm impotent. And i think my breasts are starting to sag. Damn ! I should quit ! :ranting:

I don't smoke.
Though I can undersand someone smoking a little, I don't understand how some people manage to get dependant, and don't want to stop. It's a problem to them, and their neibourgs.

The trains I take to go to paris are now tottally non smoking area, that's a real blessing! there were no separation at all, and you breathe smoke during 3 hours :evil:

Oops, embarrisment ensues.

You are right.

A Google search turns up quite a bit, and some of it looks awfully official, but if you want to see the evidence for yourself, I suppose you'll need a group of smokers, a group of nonsmokers, and some porn.

I do believe that smoking causes impotence.

I believe George Bush, Jacques Chirac and the Dali Lama have all smoked, and they are some of the most impotent people in the world!

*waits for laughs, or even just recognition of his efforts*

*recognizes PJ's efforts*

Oh. Cheers!

On a more serious note - if you smoke, you're killing other people with your smoke.

On the other hand, you'll probably be more relaxed, so you won't kill people out of anger.

This is a tough one to call, actually. I would say - don't smoke, but also chill out, everyone. That's my medical advice.

well yeah, but:
when you drive for an equal amonunt of time you kill more people.
when you eat meat you kill hungry children in africa (beacuse of the 10% biomass converstion principle 1).
when you clothe you kill animals. (both through actual murder if it's leather and poulution if it's synthetic)
when you eat you kill plants.
and so on...

as to the connection between smoking an impotency- reports indicate there is one, what puzzles me is that based on those reports smokers should have an additional 1-1.5% death expectancy annualy just from vein desieses alone, and that isn't happening...
one thing I learned is that if I ever start smoking I shouldn't do it a few hours before the act. :whistle:
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1) 10% biomass convertion principle states that every next level in the food chain gains about 10% (add or take 2 times) the energy of the previous level.

combined both of my parents lifetime they have wasted $50,000+ on cigerettes wouldnt that be some useful money...

- Smoking kills your stamina
- Smokers are more likely to freak out if they get stranded in the jungle than non-smokers (due to addiction)
- Your house stinks

1st one: right - but we do not want to be hypersportive and we do not want to be overhelathy (if so we wouldn't smoke)
2nd ine: freaking out in perticular situations is a mental thing that is only very little connected to tobacco addiction
3nd one: WTH are u thinking? Smoking doesn't mean to smoke IN your house ...

Years ago - my grandmother gave me an apple.
She smoked.
The apple was dry. It smelled. It tasted like newspaper.
Just like the rest of her house. (I am not sure on the tasting part.)

Doesn't matter. You'll bring in the funk on your clothes and hair, and your house will stink. You won't notice it, and other smokers may not notice it, but every nonsmoker who visits your house will.

Yes but to travel fast is also a need, it makes your life easier, it is also very important for human advance in the last century, unlike smoking which doesn't do any good...

DOESN'T STAND

There is still plenty of food for everyone in the world, even if you wouldn't eat animals but plants, people would starve in Africa because they are poor and don't have enough technology to make enoigh food for everyone, this has got nothing to do with the biomass principle, but with the distribution of food all over the world...

DOESN'T STAND

Again you do this to survive, unlike smoking which you don't need to survive...

DOESN'T STAND

Read above...

DOESN'T STAND

firts let me begin with saying that was meant as a joke.
but if you insist:
1: yup, sure a great advance... when youre on a highway at night. in the city mostly you just stand in trafic. which is why I don't own a car. Allso according to many studies the whole 'need for speed' issue causes alot of stress related sickness. Icluding fatal ones such as heart attacks, not to mention the good ol' suicide.


wait, it just acured to me: what do you mean ? does it kill people or not? well then it should be something like "IRRELEVANT" or "TOO SMALL TO MATTER", because it does stand. same for 3 and 4.


now resuming our schedeled progarming:

2: you seem to forget economics: if you buy more of stuff prices go up, if you sell more they go down. the fact that the people in africa are poor is only significant beacuse if the food is expensive, no? I know what you are going to say: "the prices can't be much higher that they would be in the vegetarian world. " to tell the truth I don't know, what I do know is that today 40% (give or take 4%) of the edible plants are consumed by domesticated animals. If you agree africans would be dieing anyway, you must agree that more of them are dieing today.

3:
-little Bobby! you killed our cat.
-but mommy, I wanted to make furcoat for you!
-oh, I can't stay angry at you, go buy another cat.
WHO IN THE WORLD TOLD YOU, THAT YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL SPECIES?!?!

4:I have to agree that yes it is indeed unavoidible- you have to eat (returning to 3, that is not- you can live in warm climates, or you can grow fur (if you stoped fighting it's growth for a while), it is simply convenient to make clothes out of other animals, it always was). still the plants die. it is absurd I know, but that means you support killing of plants :D

Doesn't matter. You'll bring in the funk on your clothes and hair, and your house will stink. You won't notice it, and other smokers may not notice it, but every nonsmoker who visits your house will. [/b][/quote]
Quitte right !

I spend some time around smokers. When I took my coat the next mornig, it was still smelling smoke :crazy:

Smoke but liked to leave.
Do not smoke :ok:

That's exactly why I eat animals - because I love plants so much. I'm sick of these animals thinking they can get away with wandering around eating all the plants! Do they ever bring plants to me so that I might share? No! They must pay the price for their greed and selfishness! The spirits of the plants are crying out for vengeance! And if animals just happen to be mighty tasty, so much the better.

Just think of how few plants we'd have left if nobody ate the animals!

I can't speak for Tulac, but I read it on the Internet. And since I'm a member of the only species able to read things on the Internet, I figure there's some truth to it.

Not me. Stop the genocide of non-motile species! Eat an animal today!

Nonsense great I sense.
Arguments many shall follow debunking yours.
Though funny it is.