Well, I noticed we have a nice sum of members here... And, as we can see, much of it can be said, and I think we could use a chat room here... Any comments or critics are welcome! :ok:

I remember a chat room with the Abandonia plug-in... but unfortunately no one used that function.
Yeah I like that idea.

And, one very important thing... If Chat room would exist, spammers, newbies and, of course, NOOBS, wouldn't post messages like "HOw do I download" or "What time is it" "How do I turn off my personal computer" ... Also, I'm sure that more people would be online here, AND moderators wouldn't have so much to moderate, as they probably do now...
I don't know about that Chat room that existed, but NOW Abandonia has more members, and more spammers and like.

:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
:wall:

Actually they'd have a lot more to moderate - we've discussed this before (in IRC channel form) and it's not going to happen; it would turn into a warez-fest within about 38 minutes.

Not to mention I'd spam the lyrics to the song I;d be listening to... :whistle:

..I'm too sexy for my cat...

Yep, we need a chat function as badly as we need a lawsuit and if we get the chat function we would have both.
You need to realize that we are responsible for the contents of this forum and that is why we are as strict as wel are. If we implement a chat function we would become responsible for the contents of those chatrooms as well and we cannot garantee that content.

Might as well call it BittorentChat.

I think you guys are over rating the problems, since I'm a member of emulation forums and rom begging is a problem, it never happens on an IRC channel, because mostly long time members visit it so they can communicate with each other, while I'm aware that admins might not have time moderating it I'm sure that there would be enough trusted long time members willing to moderate it if you'll give your support to the channel, because there have been atempts of an IRC channel but never lived, because of lack of support and popularity...

Seriously people I think you should give an IRC room a chance, and I don't think that it will be used for warez dealing or whatever but for chit chat between members and helping people get some games running, for those who are there for warez there's always the kick command...

Well Tulac, I'm sorry to say that you have no idea of what you are talking about. I actually think The Niles and Beef on the Bone are actually underrating the problem. :whistle:

I never understood, since only the forum regulars will go to the forum (as newbies will obviously be banned on sight since we just can't expect them to read the stickies on this forum, why would they even bother following a set of rule? IRC is even worse than here, at least by 10 times), why don't we all get a chat program like MSN Messenger or ICQ and communicate this way instead of relying on a public chat like the shoutbox or even mIRC...

Here: http://www.ngemu.com/misc.php?action=irc

This site is bigger than abandonia and has an IRC channel, a simple bot message about not doing the warez handling ought to do the trick...

I really fail to see how this would do anything. You only need one rotten apple and you will soon have a warez haven in that channel.

No because you will kick the rotten apple, I think you should give it a chance and see how it'll work before making the assumptions (*cough* most noobs can't use IRC*cough*)...

IRC? would abandonia be legally responsible for contents on IRC channel??? i don't think so.

plenty of server and all you need to do is choose one and create a room/channel in it. everyone can do it. that's what i used to do in my mIRC days...

so warez... they can be doing them right now. you can't be held responsible for what people write on other site or for example even say to eachother on the phone. if they spread warez it's their problem.


not to mention that searching for torrents really eliminates the need to search for warez on mIRC.

hmm in fact i remember only one time i got "warez" from it and it was this programme i only needed to use once and it owuld really cost me a lot to get it. so a kind admin quietly slipped it in, so i could fix the problem on my computer.

iam for IRC too, it would have nothing with abandonia and you couldnt be responsible for it. all in all if you dont want warez spam here, users can be banned, can't they?

iam for irc :ph34r:

The point is not if you are responsible for what the users do, you are responsible for the content. Only the fact that if it's proven that such a portal would be used as a jump for warez groups to find people to exchange games with would be detrimental to the site, in a big way.

Any intelligent person would come to our channel, just sit there, and when a newb come and ask for a warez game the person would talk to him privately while the others try to educate him on what Abandonware is and why it's illegal... So when everyone else would be wasting their time big time, the newb would already be beginning to download his warez without even listening and you still have no clue whatsoever about who would have done it... And no clue it even been done either.

At least that's what I would do. Only knowing that the channel would be advertised here on Abandonia, which is quite a big site with decent traffic, is more than enough to attract such scum. That's the real threat in reality... If we simply had a private channel you need to subcribe to, then this problem would not really exist. But since IRC is so open, you will have this kind of problem.

I very much doubt people would do that since I have the opposite experience from 10x larger site...

Well then share the site!
I think IRC is not that good an idea, just because I never really liked it. MSN or ICQ would be good, although we would have to agree on date and time. Also, Instant Messengers are more private, which is good and bad at the same time. Maybe we could just make an extended shoutbox for members only. Like a link on the forum main page, where you'd have to log in. You could also ban people from there. By the way, would this be even possible?

I did in one of the previous posts, it's an emulation site though(similar warez problems like abandonware)...

Wouldn't work, every convo ends up in children spamming since moderation is impossible...

That's what I meant with good and bad at the same time.

The other viable option would be to start out a forum. I can picture it all in my mind, it would be great if we could have a separate thread for each game we have on the site. People could come on the forum and speak about the games they like, and of course there would be a place to talk about anything we want. Oh, and since a lot of people have trouble making old games work in Windows, we should have a troubleshooting forum as well... And...


Oh erm... Nevermind... :whistle:


LOL

Okay i am for an irc channel. Tulac if you create one ill always be there sort of.(and i would like to be an op) :D

What if someone not a owner/admin/mod or whatever of Abandonia was to start one?

Anyone is free to start whatever they like as long as it is clear it is not and never will be Abandonia endorsed. The rules about not linking to similarly themed websites would also apply.
I really am sorry to have to be such a pain about this. We are on shaky enough ground as is with Abandonia.

I agree with Niles. Besides there really is no need for a Chat Room. I'm guessing it would only lessen the number of people here on the forum. And is it really necesary to talk in different places about the same things?

Nope, it's more like a supplement to a forum, you can't really compare the two since forums are slow, and you can't go off topic, so they are certainly not different places for the same things, more like different places for different things :bleh:...

I find this very funny seeing as abandonware is warez

And that is exactly the route I do not want this discussion to go. I thank Snake_Plissken for his suggestion and I think it has been answered sufficiently but the discussion is now over.

Look.. You can't handle the ShoutBox like adults... so.. Go figure with a chatroom..

Anyone even as much as makes it appear like Abandonia ™ is behind an offsite chat, will get into trouble.