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Bradley 16-10-2005 12:47 AM

A quote from the review:
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but there many better strategy games with similar playing style out there.
I would like to know what other games are like that.

Blood-Pigggy 16-10-2005 12:49 AM

Perhaps you could have just posted this in the thread for the game itself?
The game isn't that great in my opinion, so I don't wanna see any games of the same style. :bleh:

Bradley 16-10-2005 12:50 AM

I like this certain style that you set-up battles then watch them.

Blood-Pigggy 16-10-2005 12:52 AM

Mmm, there is a game like that, but you don't really set up the battles, just send your specific units in, give a few spell commands and etc, it's called Dominions/Dominions 2, fantastic games actually.

Bradley 16-10-2005 12:56 AM

I could only find demo's, boooooo!

Blood-Pigggy 16-10-2005 12:57 AM

Well, they aren't abandonware, they're commercial games.
What's with the sudden adverse reaction to games that you need to pay for?

efthimios 18-10-2005 09:39 AM

As far as I know UMS was the only game that used that system. Similar (-ish) games you could say that are the modern wargames like Steel Panthers (the world at war edition is freeware), or Conflict Middle East (not to be confused with Conflict A Middle East Political Simulator, another great game). Perhaps even Fields of Glory. Now, none of them are very close to UMS but have some common elements.
Also Medieval 2 and the rest games of Isigames http://www.jefflapkoffgames.com/games.html
have similar themes, but not the same gameplay as UMS. Still, great games. They have demos, but they are shareware so you will have to pay if you want them.

Funny thing, UMS II, has nothing to do with UMS in terms of gameplay. :D


Dominions are great games but like nothing even close to UMS gameplay style.

Aristharus 24-10-2005 06:39 AM

I actually haven't played UMS, but "setting battles up and just watching them" sounds a lot like Centurion: Defender of Rome.

Endoperez 24-10-2005 07:23 AM

Dominions and Dominions II are meant to be playable by e-mail. This means that you don't have to be on your computer except when you actually play your turn, and that with many players they wouldn't even play one turn at the same time. Of course, then it might take a day or two before one turn is finished... but after stuff starts happening, it helps that you are forced to think things through.

Dominions 1 (Priests, Prophets and Pretenders) is still being sold, but even if you can't get the full game try out the demo. You can play any of the 14 nations, although you can't recruit the few of the more powerful commanders or special units. 14 nations is still quite a lot, and hwile human nations might't have that different units, nations like Abysia, Caelum or Jotunheim are VERY different from other nations. Also, unlike the DomII demo, there is no time limit... You can spend hundreds of turns playing the demo alone. The user interface is pretty different from most other games, especially in Dom1.

If you haven't quessed it yet, I own both DomI and II, and am a big fan of the developers (two Swedes that made the games as a hobby!).

If buying a game is still no-no, search PBEM from Google. PBEM means Play-By-E-Mail, and these games can't be that different in how they handle battles. There is also some other term that defines this system, something like "simultaneous turn generation", which means that every command from every player is handled at the same time, instead of Player 1 doing everything before Player 2. If any kind of battle is present in a game like this, it can't be directly controlled by player.

Some quick Google hits:
General
http://newgame.agava.ru/eng/a_general.html

From wikipedia, , the term seems to be "simultanously-executed".

Diplomacy, which is both a board game and a (new ?) computer game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomacy_%28game%29



And the demos of the games of Illwinter. I'd be happy to answer any questions about these games, as I'm rather addicted:

Dominions: Priests, Prophets and Pretenders (Dom 1)
http://www.illwinter.com/dom/downloads.html

Their first game, Conquest of Elysium, with annoying no-save restriction and Civ-like graphics:
http://www.illwinter.com/coe/downloads.html

Dominions II from the publisher's homepage:
http://www.shrapnelgames.com/illwinter/d2/6.htm

BeefontheBone 24-10-2005 09:37 AM

Diplomacy is a fantstic board game, but nobody ever plays it because to get the most out of it you need 7 players and a few solid days to play, leaving the board set up the whole time. I've no idea what the PC simulation is like though.


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