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Originally posted by taikara+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (taikara)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>In addition, I don't believe in adoption. I wouldn't go through nine months of carrying and bonding with a child, and then the pain of childbirth, to turn my child over to someone I don't even know. Above all, adoption is a business, and as such, you can't always trust that the outcome will be best for the child.[/b]
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I find this to be a highly ignorant statement. If you don't want kids, don't breed them; if you don't want to be raped, don't skank yourself out and avoid being alone and take self-defense lessons. Not all adoption agencies are businesses either, but I guess you didn't do your homework long enough to find that out.
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And Triton: All parents say "No sex before marriage?"
Weird. I don't know anybody who has parents that say that.
You see, we're actually not all catholics.[/quote]
As I said before, the trendies are the ones who bring up religion in moral discussions.
Now, let's pretend that I actually am taking your comment seriously for a minute. I know more parents who are athiest or non-Christian that have daughters well enough to know that they would do everything in their power to prevent their children from having sex. It has nothing to do with religion. I guess once you grow up and stop vamping yourself long enough to have kids and raise them from infancy you will look at them differently than you would some random kids that you don't know.
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202. gr. Hver sem hefur samr??i e?a önnur kynfer?ismök vi? barn, yngra en 14 ára, skal s?ta fangelsi allt a? 12 árum. Önnur kynfer?isleg áreitni en sú sem greinir í 1. mgr. var?ar fangelsi allt a? 4 árum.
Hver sem me? blekkingum, gjöfum e?a á annan hátt t?lir ungmenni yngra en 18 ára til samr??is e?a annarra kynfer?ismaka skal s?ta fangelsi allt a? 4 árum.
Hver sem grei?ir barni e?a ungmenni yngra en 18 ára endurgjald gegn ?ví a? hafa vi? ?a? samr??i e?a önnur kynfer?ismök skal s?ta fangelsi allt a? 2 árum.
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Blah blah funny words from a dead language.
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This here is a small part of the laws in Iceland. Says that people 14 year old kids are allowed to have sex.
If someone older than 18 "seduces a teenager under 18 years of age to have sex or other sexual activities shall be imprisoned for up to 4 years."
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What does the law say about children obeying their parents?
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In modern Western culture, however, one really can't make it on his (using neuter terms, stupid English) own unless he first completes twelve years of basic study and probably a few years of college in order to land a decent job.
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Again, man-made conventions, not natural laws.[/b][/quote]
Again, another instance of selective reading. Read the part you edited out again. Yeah, feel stupid now, eh? Why don't you move out of the house at 14 and live on your own while working, paying your bills, and making sure you have enough to eat? It's impossible in the States.
Goes for all children and suddenly stops with their 18th birthday... on the other hand, "adults" can NEVER be short-sighted or immature... How I love generalizations...
Stop editing out what I say! I said that during adolescense the brain develops along with the rest of the body and does not fully mature until the mid to late 20s. An adult at this point is more than capable of thinknig for himself than a 16 year old child. You're just trolling again.
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Since your whole moral-system is based on christianity (as is the moral system of most people of the so-called "western world"... or let's rather say the "western world" itself), I think it would prove to be rather hard to keep religion out of this...
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Who said my moral system is based only on Christianity? I have studied many of the world's major religions and a number of philosophers, and I base my thinking on what makes the most sense from what I have learned from them.
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Originally posted by Chuck the Plant+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chuck the Plant)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Besides, I didn't even think you were likely to take anything seriously that is NOT your opinion in the first place, so... whistling.gif[/b]
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If I didn't take any of this seriously, then why would I have taken the time to develop a series of logical arguments against what trendy people think? I don't take you seriously anymore because you edited my comments for your own purposes and because you are a troll. Good day, sirrah.
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Nietzsche also said "Morality is the herd instinct of humanity".[/quote]
So? Even if the world's moral standards permitted parents raising their children to have sex with anything that moves, then that is also morality.
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Ignorant. Not all Christians take the Bible word for word simply because it is foolish to do so. Christianity (or at least the Catholic sects) is also based on tradition and teaching.
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Don't discard religion, even though you may not agree with their views with sentient beings, it is highly recommended that you look into their morals and ideals.
Mainly acceptance and order, without those it's essentially a anarchy that'll lead to no good.
Taking that into consideration I doubt laws should restrict what one should to one's own body, as that unborn child is essentially a part of you busy making it's way on it's own, to one day be released from your bowels and bring it's terror upon the world! wacko.gif
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I find it hard to accept that several major world religions have similar moral views on things like murder, cheating, and other things society considers crimes, people think they are wrong about everything pertaining to sexuality. How can religions be right in saying that murder, theft, and things like that, but not right in saying that people should wait until they are married?
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Yeah... urmm... broad sweeping statements don't really have any place in a discussion like this. Whilst it's easy to say that anyone under 18 is childish and everyone over that is is not, it's not really very close to the truth.[/quote]
You seem to have skipped over the parts where I said that adults are more likely to make good choices (or at least carefully planned ones) than developing teens.