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Why should a future human life be killed, to support her lust?
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I find this insulting. In my experience, lust is one thing, and it only requires only one person. Sex, the actual act that leads to pregnancy, requires two people. And if you haven't noticed, your gender is the one that typically pushes my gender to cross the line from simple lust into the actual act. Not always, obviously, but I know that almost all the guys I've known are ridiculously pushy when it comes to that sort of thing. [/b][/quote]
I'm more then happy to hear, that you don't mix sex and lust. That for you sex is still an intimate thing conected with feelings of love. Therefor I'm sorry if I insoulted you - yet you surely know there are people that have sex simply to satisfy their lust (again, glad to hear you're not among them - as I'm quite convinced many other people on this forum aren't).
And sadly it's true that many time the males of our species are the ones who preasure the females of our species into the intercourse. Yet recently (at least here - and yes Tom, I guess you could move here) it's been the other way around. Ever since I was aware of the sexual issues, it's been the pressure upon men to have as much of it as they should - and the women were the ones pressuring them. It is also women here that expect the men to be some weird macho freaks (making fun of pasifism). A woman is more likely to insoult you for not wanting to get involved in a fist fight then a man (at least where I live).
About other things I talked about (mostly replying to Tom):
I know it's hard to say that something should be legal or illegal. But like with all the things in life (and I guess I mentioned this in some other discussions) the main problem with laws is, that they wish to be absolute. But people should be dealt with on case-to-case basis. So what applys to one person should not necesarily apply to another person! And this is probably why I am so much against abortion. It may seem strange, but I would allow abortion - if one could also be denied this right (again making it both legal and illegal at the same time).
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Honestly i think people don't have enough sex, and i blame sexual frustration (male mainly) for 95% of the evil in this sad old world.
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And here's another thing I can't agree with (and I explaind this in this very thread). Sex is overrated and forcefully presented to everybody! Every comertial, joke, song, sit-com, even many cartoons are full of SEX. This only gives people wrong images so they think it's more importaint then it actually is. They are drugged with the idea that they need a lot of sex - even at the age prior to puberty! And so they are frustrated if they don't get it, because they think they should have it or they'll be missing out on the purpose of their life. It's the patterns they are getting from all over the place. Take away those patterns and they will be less frustrated (but they still won't be sexually crippled for it - now they actually are).
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You mean, abortion will remain an exception. It's really not as common as people here seem to believe.
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Well then the situation there is yet again different from the situation we have here. I know a woman who had four abrtions already (she's a prostitute - by her choice, because she found out she could have a much nicer life this way then if she got a different job). I also know two girls who had more then one abortion already (one had two, the other 3) and they still don't even consider using any other contraception. All three cases are gypsy women - who decided to leave school at the age of 13. One is now 32 years old the other two are between 17 and 21.
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And their abortions were payed for by taxpayers money. That's our health-care system.