[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by taikara@Sep 22 2005, 03:41 PM
I'm just going to take a brief moment to point out here that prostitution wouldn't be a valid profession if men weren't so desperate for sex that they'd pay for it.

If a woman can make a living by prostitution, then what's wrong with taxpayers paying for the health hazards of her profession?

Well like I said before - at least here (in Slovenia) the sexual drive is created by the female side!

It's not normal, that boys at the age of 8 or 9 are already sexually frustrated - and it's down right perverted, that it's because of the girls of the same age! Girls making fun of them, because they haven't seen a single porn movie at the age of 8/9. I don't know how it's possible, but statistics in this region showed that 40% of girls younger then 10 saw at least 1 hard-core porn movies! With boys the statistic showed only 3% and boys were rediculed by girls for not havning seen them.

The situation is worse then just decadent.

So yes - those boys would be sexually frustrated!

And on the topic of prostitution as a profession - an average Slovene prostitute has some 20 hours of apointments in a week and only around 2 hours of actual sex a week. So the men are either very quick or are looking for something completely different in a prostitue then sex.

And why shouldn't the abortions be payed for with taxpayers money - because at the same time eye operations aren't, heart and kidney operations are only partial covered by the health care - yet abortion was full covered (until 3 years ago), now it's fully covered only for certain population groups.

I guess my opinion could be different if I were in a different country, having different experiance - and probably not knowing the statistics of the youth population in Slovenia (which were a real shock to me when I found out about them).

EDIT:

So... you want to remove all laws as they try to be absolute, and people should be handed on a case-to-case basis... apart from abortions, where it should be illegal. Your society will have one law, and that is NO ABORTIONS. Rest is case-to-case... apart from those situations where abortions should be allowed... Still implies someone is given a vote in the matter.

NO, I'm not 100% against abortion. It would also be dealt with on case-to-case basis! Just like everything should be (in my opinion). Otherwise - why even have courts of justice? If not dealing in case-to-case bases? The main function of a court in my opinion is to decide if the reasons for breaking a law justify the action or not. If a person breaks the law - that person is a law breaker. If we wouldn't go from case to case - they could simply all be punished. But if the reasons for breaking a law are valid - then a person should be pardoned. And I never said I'm 100% AGAINST abortion.

I guess what all this really leads to is this (and it has nothing to do with abortion really):
The entire human society has way too many problems and can't really solve them. So everything should start again from the most fundamental basis (like Descartes said - I think therefor I am - meaning, this is the only truth he knew, and he had to find out everything else, rejecting the knowladge that existed - unless he could prove it correct). So if there's ever a new world to be populated - the social rules should be fundamentaly different from the ones we have now!

Actually, the fact that I see sex everywhere has made me realize that it is a natural thing. Just like walking around or doing sport. I am bombarded with sex from every angle, but I am still a virgin. I am definately not drugged with the idea that I need a lot of sex, and neither is any of my friends. They only have sex when they are in a relationship.

I know this will sound like categorising people (because it actually is), but I think it's true: All of us, who are talking here about it are at an intelectual, cultural, self-controling... scale - higer then average people. Just compate your self to an average peron of your country and tell me - are you (most of all intelectually) an average person? Is an average person in your country as educated as you? Behaves the way you do? Has the same views on life as you do? I know this sounds elitist, but most people on this forum (actually most people even debating things like this) are above the social average. So don't judge the world according to yourself - but according to the people around you.
I was also constantly bombarded by sex - and yet I was a virgin until I met Rainwife 5 years ago. I do enjoy jokes with sexual contense and have nothing against comertials showing sexual imagery (sounds hipocritical right) - but I see the damage it's doing on other people. In my line of work I get to meet a lot of children, their younger and older syblings and also their parents, grandparents - from all social classes and different backgrounds. And I'm telling you - I've seen more then enough average people and how all of this effected them. I guess this also contributed a lot to my point of view.