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[Rogue]

Now looks like you are missing some education on history subject too?

How many wars had religion as main reason??

How many people died as result?

How many scientists have been killed as their discovery where against what church teaches?

You my friend are young and ignorant or living your life in fairy tale.

Tell us what happened to Galileo, please. Why he was condemned of heresy?

Just now think about fact that history is repeating it’s self…

[Havell]

I'll agree that religion has been abused to kill and persecute people but it has also caused many good things, in the same way that science has also benefited mankind (making medicines etc.) but has also killed many (guns and nuclear bombs).

[Stroggy]

I've already read all of Dan Brown's books.
While he does raise quite a few good points, a lot of it is, quite frankly, absurd.
His most famous (and controversial) book, the Da Vinci code, scores quite a high mark on the scale of BS. To put it so crudely.
Even the entire theory of the Holy grail being the son of jesus isn't his own. Thats a theory going around for quite some time. It also isn't the appearance of this theory in the entertainment sector since Gabriel Knight III was about the same theory (thus some of the fun of reading the book was spoiled)

However he's a very good writer and its a joy to read his work... aslong as you take his info with some grains of salt.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Anubis@Nov 30 2004, 05:28 PM
Now looks like you are missing some education on history subject too?

How many wars had religion as main reason??

How many people died as result?

How many scientists have been killed as their discovery where against what church teaches?

You my friend are young and ignorant or living your life in fairy tale.

Tell us what happened to Galileo, please. Why he was condemned of heresy?

Just now think about fact that history is repeating it’s self…

You aren't listening you moron.
I'm sorry that I have to insult you but i've been repeating myself all the time now and you just won't read it.
Are you stupid or do you simply refuse to understand it!?

You're talking about dark ages, i'm talking about renaissance.
Jeesh you really are thick.

[Havell]

Well yes, he doesn't claim that it is ALL true, or that he made it all up himself, it's a novel, no one goes around saying that Terry Pratchett's an idiot because the world isn't really carried around by four elephants and a turtle and, as you said, don't believe everything you read.

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by R Havell@Nov 30 2004, 05:54 PM
Well yes, he doesn't claim that it is ALL true, or that he made it all up himself, it's a novel, no one goes around saying that Terry Pratchett's an idiot because the world isn't really carried around by four elephants and a turtle and, as you said, don't believe everything you read.

Pratchett is, however, fantasy.
And since he's willing to engage in debates about the subject I do believe he sincerely believes he is telling the truth.
I don't mind. I don't even believe in Jesus and yet I ahd a great time reading The davinci Code (coudln't put it down)

[Schabernakel-anbeter]

@ struggy and anubis
oh i think the only way to see who is right
might be a battle :Titan:

its Allah...no its God :box:

so maybe different religions and languages are only made
to set war on humans
God must like strategic games LOL

i dont want to say that life is a game
for God it might be but i think its sth more
like loving your creation and make special influence(not really game, cause
its no imagination at all theirfore imaginations are sth too so what is
actually a game :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: )

i think if you die the only thing you lose are your memories(of course your
old body, too)
so death isnt that bad, anyway i dont have much memories that i
dont want to loose :angel:

a common religion for all might be great but its only a dream
like foreign the whole world or peace to the world

yeh maybe this topic helps someone :angel:

i thing i play some "games" now

bye :bye: bye

[Rogue]

Strrogy,
It’s interesting that somebody who thinks a bit high about himself can give it’s self very easily to call other names… These small things tell a lot about our self’s.

:not_ok: Me end you have nothing more to talk about as your brain can’t accept that human existed before and after renaissance, that religion took a lot of lives, including about 200 000 of people from my own country at the END OF 20th century, and that people are killed even today because they are separate by religion.

I know why you are so persuasive to prove that religion is not reason we lost a lot of scientist, but just imagine what each kid, killed today in Palestine might turn in to, if there was no genocidal regime in Israel, like it’s today. And at the end, all comes back to religion difference…

I know, it’s hard to accept facts…

[Rogue]

Schabernakel-anbeter,
If there is a god, he is or a bit pissed and don’t care about us, or is ignoring all madness that is happening today.

Trust me; you'll see everything differently if you taste a bit hell, like I did.

[Schabernakel-anbeter]

at least every religion i know says sth like
humans on earth one pretty good human(Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha...)
and God or Nirvana somewhere above.

its quite interesting if you watch pictures painted by children
its normally:
A man and his wife with some children on earth and a laughing sun above.

The worst thing today is that reliogious stuff normally sounds really dark.

For tuff (hard and stuff) religion is too weak
for the peaceloving it is to brutal

so what should you believe at last, science or in the power of money?

It isnt easy for the humans today, to find the right way. :bye:

Bye :bye: Bye