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Old 01-07-2005, 12:58 AM   #31
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nothing to add chuck. you said it all.
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:07 AM   #32
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Originally posted by Triton+Jul 1 2005, 12:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Triton @ Jul 1 2005, 12:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>rather, the sexual practices homosexuals do is condemned. [/b]

Anal sex is condemned? Forgive me father, for I have sinned :angel:


Homosexuality is a physical disorder. Go grab your science books, it's all about hormones. You can't choose who you like, doesn't matter what your cultural influences are.

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Hey!!! :ranting: :ranting:
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:12 AM   #33
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Homosexuality is a physical disorder. Go grab your science books, it's all about hormones.
:w00t: someone else who has read a book that isnt the bible.
as for bisexuality evry mammel has the capability to be bisexual. when a male hits puberty they become excited over pretty much anything. its all about plesure at the end of the day. if you are desperatly horny anything will do. a lot of hetrosexuals have homosexual experiances.
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:17 AM   #34
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Ok, so being homosexual is ok, but acting out on it is bad. Is it not written in the bible that to think it is as bad as doing it. With your logic, you are implying that a childmolester is not bad, as long as he keeps it in, and doesn't act, which is better then the alternative, but is still overlooking the issue completely. I think that christians don't accept homosexuality at all in fact. They just hope that once someone commits to God they will come to realize the "evils" of their ways. If what you say is correct, and the christian population overlooks homosexuals as long as they are not active, then I seriously question their complete logical base, and will go on record here saying they are a bunch of superficial hypocrites.
The one thing I hate about religions, some more then others, is the way that they train their people to come to church every weekend to wash away their sins, just so they can do them all week again and know they will be forgiven. What a bunch of hogwash!.
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:19 AM   #35
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Originally posted by lethe+Jul 1 2005, 01:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (lethe @ Jul 1 2005, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Chuck the plant
those perverted sado-masochists
Hey!!! :ranting: :ranting: [/b][/quote]
I KNEW this was gonna happen the very moment I sent it... *sighs*

FYI (and I thought it would become obvious in it's context): I was being sarcastical here... one could even say "self-ironical"... :whistle: :angel:
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:22 AM   #36
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. With your logic, you are implying that a childmolester is not bad, as long as he keeps it in, and doesn't act, which is better then the alternative, but is still overlooking the issue completely. I think that christians don't accept homosexuality at all in fact. They just hope that once someone commits to God they will come to realize the "evils" of their ways. If what you say is correct, and the christian population overlooks homosexuals as long as they are not active, then I seriously question their complete logical base, and will go on record here saying they are a bunch of superficial hypocrites.
it all depends whether you are talking to a fundie, or a baptist, or a liberal, whatever. some christians will say gays are evil and go to hell. some say jesus forgives all. some take the view that if they dont practice it its ok.
a child molester... ie: someone who molests children. well if they have molested children they arnt doing a bloody good job of *keeping it in* then are they.
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:22 AM   #37
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@ Triton: I'm so sick and fed up with this stupid "mental disorder"-sh*t. Up to this day, there is NO "final conclusion" on where homosexuality comes from. "Mental disorder" is but one of many theories. By the way, do you lable ANY sexual preference that doesn't fit into your definition of "normality" as a "mental disorder"? What about heterosexuals that have anal intercourse (and there are MANY)? And WHY the f*ck "cure" homosexuality, even if it WERE a "mental disorder"? You DO know that not every "mental disorder" can be cured, do you? There is no "cure" for transexuals, for instance, except allowing them to live the live they want and NEED to live. Or would your solution be to give them little pills to surpress their dangerous and dastardly urges? What about all the other "mentally disorded", like those dastardly buttf*cking heterosexuals, those perverted sado-masochists and not to mention those wicked masturbators?
1. Heterosexuals having anal sex doesn't make it any less dangerous. Anal sex is harmful no matter how you slice it.

2. Masturbation is regarded by the medical community as a perfectly normal practice. There is no harm caused by masturbation.

3. I know that many mental disorders have no cure, but nearly all of them are treated, and nearly all are rehabilitated as much as possible.

4. The reason homosexuality is not considered a mental disorder is because all homosexuals know is their favor for the same sex; they are afraid of being changed to prefer the opposite sex because homosexuality is what comes natural to them.

5. What is wrong with treating mental disorders with pills? They have pills for depression, don't they?

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People like you need to get out and actually take a look at life (and maybe get one of their own), instead of interfering with the lifes of others.
People like you and omg need to consult an MLA handbook.
                       
Old 01-07-2005, 01:23 AM   #38
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With your logic, you are implying that* a childmolester is not bad, as long as he keeps it in, and doesn't act
Which is almost perfectly right. A person normally can't help the way they feel. Paederasts (not child molesters, because THAT would imply they already DID act) didn't CHOOSE to be the way they areand therefore can't be condemned for FEELING in a certain way. That would be the same as condemning someone for their ethnicity, hair colour or brainpower. But they MUST be condemned and deakt with IF they act.

@ Triton: Because pills are so "natural"... LOL

And exactly WHERE did I get that stuff about re-education and stuff before...? :whistle:

AND: The production of hormones is a PHYSICAL process. NOT a psychological/mental one. You should learn the correct terms before consulting your "MLA handbook"...
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Old 01-07-2005, 01:34 AM   #39
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Ok, so being homosexual is ok, but acting out on it is bad. Is it not written in the bible that to think it is as bad as doing it. With your logic, you are implying that* a childmolester is not bad, as long as he keeps it in, and doesn't act, which is better then the alternative, but is still overlooking the issue completely. I think that christians don't accept homosexuality at all in fact. They just hope that once someone commits to God they will come to realize the "evils" of their ways. If what you say is correct, and the christian population overlooks homosexuals as long as they are not active, then I seriously question their complete logical base, and will go on record here saying they are a bunch of superficial hypocrites.
Don't lump all the religions together. I do know the Roman Catholic Church's policy on homosexuality is the same as celibacy, more or less, in that homosexuals must learn to surpress their desires. So too must the unmarried and the celibate clergy supress their urges to have sex or perform sexual acts with other people. Both homosexuals and the clergy are expected to keep their sexual urges in check throughout their lives, and the unmarried until they marry (and then restricted to their partner).

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The one thing I hate about religions, some more then others, is the way that they train their people to come to church every weekend to wash away their sins, just so they can do them all week again and know they will be forgiven. What a bunch of hogwash!.
I know a lot of Christian religions teach that people are "saved" once they accept Jesus Christ as their lord and master, though this is clearly flawed because there is no catch. These people love to preach the Good News to any and all people in earshot, and are quick to condemn those who they consider heathens to hell. People who do this made it into my "100 things that piss me off" list in the whine topic.

There are some forms of Christianity that think accepting Jesus as one's lord and master is all well and good, but they must also follow the 10 Commandments and the teachings of the Church in order to be entitled to heaven.
                       
Old 01-07-2005, 01:39 AM   #40
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AND: The production of hormones is a PHYSICAL process. NOT a psychological/mental one. You should learn the correct terms before consulting your "MLA handbook"...
how many ways do u need this explained triton before you understand? u drank that coffe yet?
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