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[Sebatianos]

Exactly. So to them a game like Medal of Honour will represent something like (let's say) C&C represented to us. It's not the matter of which game is better, it's about capturing the spirit of the generation that grows up with it.

And we're not growing up with games anymore, which does in a way alienate us from what is currently made.

[humorguy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sebatianos @ Mar 21 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]284445[/snapback]</div>

Exactly. So to them a game like Medal of Honour will represent something like (let's say) C&C represented to us. It's not the matter of which game is better, it's about capturing the spirit of the generation that grows up with it.

And we're not growing up with games anymore, which does in a way alienate us from what is currently made.
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I think you might be all surprised. My Nephew is 15 years old and has just discovered the Quest series. He has got the Police Quest series XP compatible pack and is looking to get the others! He has also surprised me by saying he got Bladerunner in a charity shop and is loving it, with no problem with the graphics! Youngsters may surprise us in what they become interested in. I think our generation of games will be found and played for a coupel more generations, with each couple years a couple of classics from the 90's dropping off the radar forever to be lost, but that will be a long time from now.

[Morrin]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sebatianos @ Mar 21 2007, 02:07 PM) [snapback]284445[/snapback]</div>

Exactly. So to them a game like Medal of Honour will represent something like (let's say) C&C represented to us. It's not the matter of which game is better, it's about capturing the spirit of the generation that grows up with it.

And we're not growing up with games anymore, which does in a way alienate us from what is currently made.
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Instead of listening those whiners, that is perhaps the best explanation I have ever readed and I completely agree.
So, each of us plays what we like to play and that's it. Not much point to whine about it.. The youngsters giggle about playing some primitive oldies, but retro is cool man!

[gregor]

not to meniton the remakes and new techniques adopted on old games.

just a few days ago they remade quake with some lighting that before they needed some supercomputers to do it. now a dual core with good graphics would do. it looks awesome (they actually showed the doom pic).

then you have jDoom and Duke nukem remake and then there is a project to remake ultima undewrold with new graphics and not to meniton those guys recreating UFO - alien invasion (even the buggy uncomplte version looks awesome and playes nice).

*waiting for remake of QBasic nibbles*

[faeornran]

I'm only 18 and I find myself agreeing with the OP. I still find enjoyment for multiple games, but things like Grand Theft Auto lose their touch for me quickly. I loved Elder Scrolls III. I played it for over 200 hours mostly because the only thing I wanted to work towards was becoming a werewolf. About half of that time was spent AS a werewolf, and I loved it to death. Oblivion? Nah. The graphics are great, sure, but the gameplay is almost exactly the same. The only thing different? Rolls and the ability to control your shield. Whoop de doo. I didn't spend much time on it.

I grew up from baby to now on these old video games we all play here at Abandonia. Those old games for me mean many things, my top three being:

1. Memories with my sister (no, she's not dead, I just don't see her much any more)
2. Storytelling - Older games seem to be a lot better at telling us an interesting, enjoyable story. You can also include humor here, because pretty much all of Sierra's old games had great humor in them
3. Gameplay - The graphics? Who needs em! These old games did plenty well with what they had, but had enough to look beautiful for the technology they used. The real strength is in the gameplay, which is what sets apart certain games from others.

Also, I wonder if I know you, Icewolf. Have you ever played Dransik before?

[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Faeorn Ran @ Mar 21 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]284475[/snapback]</div>

Also, I wonder if I know you, Icewolf. Have you ever played Dransik before?[/b]

No, sorry. I'd actually like to make that nick copyrighterd for me, but I guess that's pretty much pointless...

I'm not an online gamer at all. But I think I'll become one if I find the time.

EDIT: Maybe I'm a moron here - was this actually an invitation...?

[faeornran]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Icewolf @ Mar 22 2007, 03:49 AM) [snapback]284532[/snapback]</div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Faeorn Ran @ Mar 21 2007, 10:38 PM) [snapback]284475[/snapback]

Also, I wonder if I know you, Icewolf. Have you ever played Dransik before?[/b]

No, sorry. I'd actually like to make that nick copyrighterd for me, but I guess that's pretty much pointless...

I'm not an online gamer at all. But I think I'll become one if I find the time.

EDIT: Maybe I'm a moron here - was this actually an invitation...?
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Oh, no, you're not an idiot. LOL. I was asking because I made a friend on Dransik (which is now called Ashen Empires) some six or eight years ago, except it was actually Iceword o'Delik instead of just Icewolf.

I was just curious. Oh, don't bother copyrighting the name, he's Finnish so it won't really affect him, unless you can get one over there ;p

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Sebatianos @ Mar 21 2007, 07:07 AM) [snapback]284445[/snapback]</div>

Exactly. So to them a game like Medal of Honour will represent something like (let's say) C&C represented to us. It's not the matter of which game is better, it's about capturing the spirit of the generation that grows up with it.

And we're not growing up with games anymore, which does in a way alienate us from what is currently made.
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I disagree. There are many games that are new that I love playing and will actually sometimes come back to.

For example, Morrowind. How old is that now? 4 or 5 years? At any rate, it's not that old, yet I've found myself playing that over again before. I loved the system and everything, and the graphics are far better than all of the older games. The graphics are nice, but again the gameplay had me enthralled.

Another game that I loved to death was Half Life 2. It had awesome graphics and sweet gameplay, but unfortunately a far too linear storyline. The exploration was good, though, as it didn't feel I was just going in a straight line. I've beaten it thrice so far, my last time being last year.

Resident Evil 4. Ho, man! Sure, it's not a PC game, but it's a console game with FLAIR. It's not too old still yet it's my favorite Gamecube game- I can think of several older games that I would pass up to play RE4 simply because the graphics, gameplay and story all scare the crap out of me, and I love it to death. I've beaten it three times.

My point, though, is that games aren't necessarily losing quality; it's just that the games with quality are fewer and farther inbetween. I've beaten Fable one time on the XBox and tried to play it again on the PC but found myself unable to play for longer than 30 minutes. Personally I loved the game, but the way the game works just doesn't interest me as much as other games because you end up at the same place no matter what way you develop your character. *shrug*


That's my take on it. I was interrupted a lot while trying to type this out so if it seems as though I'm rambling incoherently then feel free to ask questions (or point and laugh).

[humorguy]

Faeron, you hit the nail on the head. Most people think that a 'dead' PC games market is no PC games at all. But what it is is when a market cannot sustain itself due to lack of quality product. As quality PC games become fewer and further between it will rely on the independent games industry to teach gamers that graphics isn't everything and that we will have to start again, with simpler, cheaper, downloadable games from independent publishers teaching a lot of us that gameplay is king, and as they sell more games, so the games will get a little bigger, with better AI, etc.

Alternatively, PC gaming will just slowly fade away, with nobody in ten years being able to say exactly when it ended.

[thebes]

I just miss the old days of the Cinemaware games. Great little stories and fun to play. Guess I had more time too. :smurf:

[Sebatianos]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(thebes @ Sep 23 2007, 04:15 AM) [snapback]312636[/snapback]</div>

I just miss the old days of the Cinemaware games. Great little stories and fun to play. Guess I had more time too. :smurf:
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Perhaps you should try their new games. The do-over of Defender of the crown or something like that (Robin Hood: Defender of the Crown).