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[Toxik]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Oct 24 2005, 05:55 PM

They are:[*]An Emulator Site
For abandoned ROMS. The Emulator-Scene is an extremelly shady area, and balancing a site with only "sligthly" illegal ROMS will be difficult. (This will be the hardest site to design.)

I tought any Rom is legal if you delete it ater 24 hours and its not biz of the site providing them if sombody dosent

(Jesus,that post looks horrible,true annihilation of grammar :eeeeeh: )

[A. J. Raffles]

Actually I think that's just another one of those urban myths, similar to "it's legal to download a game you own/used to own/might have owned"...

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Oct 24 2005, 05:55 PM

• An Emulator Site
  For abandoned ROMS. The Emulator-Scene is an extremelly shady area, and balancing a site with only "sligthly" illegal ROMS will be difficult. (This will be the hardest site to design.)
  

Excelent idea (I guess C64 games would fall into this category right - in that case count me in).

• An Abandonware Radio
  Stream wonderful music of great oldies directly to your machine, and listen to it while browsing the net. We'll only have the best music, and won't stream 10 seconds track.
  
  

Uh, uh - can it be soundtracks of ESA protected games also? Or newer games? Inca Sound track (I & II) are simply awesome, and don't even get me started on 7th guest sound trek (The Game - is a great rock song anyway and Skeletons in my Closet is a jazzy song with a great vocal).

• An Auction Site
  A place where people can buy/sell games, basically. We are working on thinking up how to make it 100% secure (so you won't send money to someone without getting the game).
  
  

Could work, but I really don't know...

Oh and about Abandonia Reloaded - well I prefer the original, but AR is a great site as well (actually it's more suffisticate, so it's even better then the original). I just can't really warm up to the forums (to quiet for my taste).

[Tom Henrik]

Originally posted by Toxik@Oct 24 2005, 06:03 PM
I tought any Rom is legal if you delete it ater 24 hours and its* not* biz of the site providing them if sombody dosent

No.

And here's why:
If anything harms the income of a product that is for sale, it is illegal (unless the suffering part has allowed it).

Now...
Let's say I want to play Super Mario Bros on Nintendo. Well, the game can't be bought anywhere, but... The machine is still for sale!

Why would this matter? Simple.

If you want to play the Nintendo version of a game, you either have the machine... or you don't. If you have the machine, then Nintendo have already gotten their well-deserved money from you - and downloading the ROM won't hurt anyone (apart from yourself, as these games are much better on the Nintendo). But because no-one can prove that you actually own the machine, no-one are actually entitled to supply you with a ROM (apart from Nintendo themselves).

The proper way to get the game you want is to use eBay or something similliar to get the game, and buy the machine from the company.


So basically we end up with this...

A ROM can be hosted if:

• The console/machine is no longer sold.
• The game is no longer sold.
• The game is no longer supported.
• The copyright owner won't disapprove.

Otherwise, you are breaking the law (more than nessecary) by hosting them.

[Eagle of Fire]

Thank you so much Tom, I am so pissed about having to say all the time that the "delete after 24h" or "you can download it if you own it" myths are just that; myths...

You just made my day.

[Stebbi]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Oct 24 2005, 02:03 PM
1. Abandonia is 100% illegal

Why is abandonia illegal?

I think the reloaded site should be kicked to the side. I really don't see a purpose for it to tell you the truth. Why not just stick all the games in here?

why? :eeeeeh: i like Ar :angry:

[Doubler]

Because putting copyrighted programs, which haven't been released as freeware, up for download is illegal
Even if they are old/no longer sold/no longer supported/etc.

[moogle]

Ohh!! :w00t: an emu site!!!!
I hope that I'l be able to find a couple of games there with me in them!!
Ok probly not LOL, but still, sounds exciting? Got a name for it yet?

[Mr.Snuggles]

Well if you doing a emu site. Im your best man for finding ANY rom in the world. I do mean so. k:

[moogle]

Hehe....
I'm better for the oldies!! SNES/NES in particular...