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Originally posted by Evad@Jun 30 2005, 11:54 PM
If you believe in the bible, you can't be gay. It is just a matter of fact and I'm sorry for any religious homosexual catholics out there, but you can't honestly tell me or anyone else differently.

yes you can though. (maybe) i thought you were allowed to be gay and christian but you had to be celibate. but like if you were to become a preist you were celibate anyway. i thought the whole problem with gays being in the church preisthood is cuase they had orgies and wild lifestyles.
also christ would forgive you for being gay. (or pretty much anyting)

[TheVoid]

Originally posted by Evad@Jul 1 2005, 12:54 AM
Yes, this way just passed in our legislature(canada) like two days ago.
I think it should be classified as a civial union. Marrage was, and still is a religious ceremony, and is done before God.

In fact, it will never be considered a religious marriage. The Church is strongly against it, and I don't think that homosexuals care that much about the marriage being civilian and not religious. The fact that they can legally marry is in the gay optic a great achievement, 'cause it somewhat lowers the difference between "normal" and "gay" couples. It's all about legitimation.

[Dino]

Well, Evad is absolutely right there. Church is strongly against homosexualism as well as Bible. That's clear as day.

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Originally posted by Triton@Jun 30 2005, 11:56 PM
If it wasn't a psychological condition, homosexuals would be homosexual by choice.

wake up. drink coffe. physical conditions the subjest has no choice, like physicall schizophrenia. No Choice. you dig. understand. a lot of transexuals and homosexuals have womens brains. you see, (or not) no choice for them.
seriosly do some reading on the difference between physicall and phsychological diosrders before you start using them in arguements.

Originally posted by Evad+Jun 30 2005, 07:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Evad @ Jun 30 2005, 07:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Yes, this way just passed in our legislature(canada) like two days ago.
I think it should be classified as a civial union. Marrage was, and still is a religious ceremony, and is done before God. Now this is a can of worms, but this element of the question is critical. If you believe in the bible, you can't be gay. It is just a matter of fact and I'm sorry for any religious homosexual catholics out there, but you can't honestly tell me or anyone else differently. [/b]

The Bible comes from the Church, not the other way around. Anyone who believes in the Bible (as you say) can still be gay (not like they have much of a choice), but they must be celibate.

Your comment about Catholics was unneccessary and shows you know little about them. Roman Catholicism is fully against homosexuality, but it does not condemn homosexuals; rather, the sexual practices homosexuals do is condemned. The Roman Catholic Church supports rehabilitation of homosexuals. You're probably thinking of the Episcopalians, who allowed a homosexual man to become bishop a few years ago. It was this event that caused them to break away from the Anglican Church, though many Episcopalian churches in the States intend to break away from the Episcopal Church because it permits homosexuality and gay marriage.

It is not wrong to forgive sins, and it is not wrong to not hate homosexuals. What is wrong is going up to the homosexuals and telling them that they are heretics and that they are condemned to hell for being homosexual.

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wake up. drink coffe. physical conditions the subjest has no choice, like physicall schizophrenia. No Choice. you dig. understand. a lot of transexuals and homosexuals have womens brains. you see, (or not) no choice for them.
seriosly do some reading on the difference between physicall and phsychological diosrders before you start using them in arguements.[/quote]

How is homosexuality not a psychological disorder? A physical disorder is something that affects the body directly, as opposed to the mind. MS is a physical disorder.

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Originally posted by Triton@Jul 1 2005, 12:14 AM
How is homosexuality not a psychological disorder? A physical disorder is something that affects the body directly, as opposed to the mind. MS is a physical disorder.

*sigh* like i say wake up. think. a physical disorder of the brain can have physcholigical consequences. to repeat.
a lot of gay and transexuals have womens brains.
so this is a physcological disorder is it????????????? i actually did physcoligy buddy. dont go lieing and saying you have 2 because if you had you wouldent be saying this.
schizophrenia can be physicall or physcological. at an idiots level its all to do with the shape of your brains.

[tazzy_s]

personally it shouldn't be any of our businesses what they do , we're not in the bedroom with them , so who are we in order to blather on about what they do . Would you like someone in order to get in your face and say "doing this and this and this is wrong " ?? Probably not , so for the Bible quoters , it's your opinions , and everyone is entitled to their free speech , there are however others who don't share those views.

[moogle]

Originally posted by OvErLoRd@Jul 1 2005, 12:00 AM
Well, Evad is absolutely right there. Church is strongly against homosexualism as well as Bible. That's clear as day.

Yup, and so is Bush....

And as for my opinion, I think its great that they legalised it, because like you guys are saying its discrimination. As for the child adoption issue, I'm not really sure, because Overlord is right, think for example you have a strait (spelling? :tai: ) child with gay parents, the child could then be influenced by the parents and change sexuality, because he wants to be like his parents.

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Originally posted by moogle@Jul 1 2005, 12:38 AM
for example you have a strait (spelling?* :tai: ) child with gay parents, the child could then be influenced by the parents and change sexuality, because he wants to be like his parents.

my mother is a hippy. i hate hippys.
a freinds mother is in politics. he hates politics.
a freinds father is posh manager bloke. he hates posh people
a freinds mother is a pill head ex raver. he hates pill heads.
a freinds mother is a ho. he really hates loose women.
do i need to go on????? rebellion is more normall than imitation. besides if that were true then straight couples having gay children would be a lot rarer than it is, as they would want to be like there parents.

[Chuck the plant]

Kids, go home and let others live their lifes...

And to our "tolerant homophobes":
On the case of adoption - homosexual couples can INDEED have children like any other couple. Of course a male couple will need a women to give birth to the child and a female couple will need a man. But when the child is there, it's there.
And imagine the following (not ALL too seldom) case: A man had a child with some women before he came to terms with his sexuality. The woman dies, the child is his, but he now lives with another man. You REALLY thing it would be better for the child's psychological condition to take away BOTH parents and give it into the custody of total strangers? What about all those antisocial heterosexual couples that practically live off their childrens' welfare? Do you honestly mean to say that they SHOULD have children, simply because their relationship is "natural", but a caring homosexual couple should never? You GOTTA be joking.
And by the way, "the child could face discrimination" is NO arguement, EVER. Following that logic there still wouldn't be mixed races ins schools, blacks would STILL have to sit in the back of busses, wouldn't be served in restaurants etc. because standing up for their rights could get a white person discriminated back in the day. Yes, we ALWAYS should make the ignorance of the dumbest members of society the grade by which we measure "normality"...

@ Triton: I'm so sick and fed up with this stupid "mental disorder"-sh*t. Up to this day, there is NO "final conclusion" on where homosexuality comes from. "Mental disorder" is but one of many theories. By the way, do you lable ANY sexual preference that doesn't fit into your definition of "normality" as a "mental disorder"? What about heterosexuals that have anal intercourse (and there are MANY)? And WHY the f*ck "cure" homosexuality, even if it WERE a "mental disorder"? You DO know that not every "mental disorder" can be cured, do you? There is no "cure" for transexuals, for instance, except allowing them to live the live they want and NEED to live. Or would your solution be to give them little pills to surpress their dangerous and dastardly urges? What about all the other "mentally disorded", like those dastardly buttf*cking heterosexuals, those perverted sado-masochists and not to mention those wicked masturbators?

People like you need to get out and actually take a look at life (and maybe get one of their own), instead of interfering with the lifes of others.