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[Sharp]

Grav Shield do not have a cumulative effect, you can only use one, any extras will just not work.

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I have bases AREA 51 in Nevada in its real location and a base in the Ural mountains in Russia "Yamantau" Both real life secret military bases.

Not very "secret" then are they

[ShadowXIX]

Originally posted by Sharp@May 6 2006, 11:55 AM


Not very "secret" then are they*

They are still pretty secret in the case of Area 51 you cant hide the worlds largest runway in this day and age when anyone can rent time on civilian satellites. But daily operations of what goes on at the base are still highly secret. Most of the work is done at night and they know when every satellite is over head thanks to NORAD so you never going to catch a picture of a secret plane out of a hangar.

Yamantau Mountain on the other hand not much is really known about that site even in the CIA. All they really know is the Russian have moved a massive amount of material out of the mountain, By some estimation enough to build a 400 square mile structure underground :blink: Nobody even really knows its real name ("Yamantau" is just the mountain its under) or what goes on their. Some think its a nuclear super bunker which could take multiple direct hits and some think its a Nuclear weapon production site along with dozens of other theories.

This brings me too a interesting point concerning XCOM anyone eles notice the makers of the game knew a impressive amount of reak Ufology and conspiracy theories?

A few examples

Elerium - 115 Is clearly taken from Bob Lazars story of working at AREA-51 and S-4, where he claimed to work on UFO tech. He talked about Element-115 which was used in the power source for the alien crafts to create Anti-matter which powered the craft's reactor. Lazar also mentioned that it was not naturally found in our solar system but was created in a binary star system.

Interceptor Using Pulse detonation engines. Many believe a real craft is operated out of area51 which uses a advanced pulse detonation engines to achieve hyper sonic speeds. Some call it the Aurora, There is actually photo evidence to back up this claim

Sectoid Clearly based on the classic Grey Aliens, The tendancy of human abductions/ cattle mutilations, extarcting genetic material for cross breeding etc.. is all popular Ufology.

Theres many more examples and Im sure I will run into more as I get further into the game.

Man what a great game k:

[Japo]

This brings me too a interesting point concerning XCOM anyone eles notice the makers of the game knew a impressive amount of reak Ufology and conspiracy theories?

Indeed. That makes the game better, of course. :Tom:

Elerium - 115 Is clearly taken from Bob Lazars story of working at AREA-51 and S-4, where he claimed to work on UFO tech. He talked about Element-115 which was used in the power source for the alien crafts to create Anti-matter which powered the craft's reactor. Lazar also mentioned that it was not naturally found in our solar system but was created in a binary star system.

I don't know whether that Bob Lazar meant to be believed, but anyone with rudimentary knowledge of Chemistry knows that the element with an atomic number of 115, or any element with an atomic weight of 115 g/mol have nothing misterious about them: they can be found on Earth.

And "pulse detonation" are just two words, they should make clear what phisical principle they're supposed to describe.

Sectoid Clearly based on the classic Grey Aliens, The tendancy of human abductions/ cattle mutilations, extarcting genetic material for cross breeding etc.. is all popular Ufology.

Research "sectoid autopsy", and watch the photo. Cool, just like it was supposed to be in Roswell or Area 51 or whatever.

Man what a great game

Indeed.

EDIT: No, wait, silly me. :tai: No element with atomic number 115 occurs naturaly. But it will be synthesized some day and will have nothing in particular, except for being extremely unstable just like all those heavy elements. No element with an atomic weight of 115 g/mol would be special though, they are found on Earth. And this time I mean it.

I hope the first person who makes 115 calls it elerium, since they get to name it. Anyway, a lot of the names, (stingray, interceptor) are taken from the Old UK tv series, "ufo" (wikipedia it).

[Japo]

I hope the first person who makes 115 calls it elerium, since they get to name it.

That would be JUST cool, but no. There's a convention to name elements with atomic number 110 and higher with the first letters of the latin or greek for each digit of the atomic number. So it would be something like Uup, because Uuq is already the element with 114 protons.

Anyway, a lot of the names, (stingray, interceptor) are taken from the Old UK tv series, "ufo" (wikipedia it).

Thanks, I didn't know it! That series looks great! And the chicks are so hot!

[ShadowXIX]

Originally posted by Japofran@May 6 2006, 11:50 PM



EDIT: No, wait, silly me. :tai: No element with atomic number 115 occurs naturaly. But it will be synthesized some day and will have nothing in particular, except for being extremely unstable just like all those heavy elements. No element with an atomic weight of 115 g/mol would be special though, they are found on Earth. And this time I mean it.

Well element 115 was created inlabs not too long ago but it has life time measured in seconds.

http://physicsweb.org/articles/news/8/2/1

http://www.zpenergy.com/modules.php?name=N...article&sid=629

These superheavy elements dont exist naturally on earth or any place in the Universe from what we can tell.

Some physicist have predicted a "Island of Stability" in the superheavy element in which when they reach a certain number they would be stable and have a life time in years instead of seconds. I think it was thought to be in the 115-117 range

Thats pretty much what Lazar was talking about a stable superheavy element.

[Japo]

Well element 115 was created inlabs not too long ago but it has life time measured in seconds.

I didn't know, I googled for a periodic table and it didn't display that element -although it displayed elements with atomic numbers 114 and 116-, it must be outdated. I already knew and told about these superheavy elements' unstability, that's what makes it impossible for them to occur naturally anywhere.

Even if the "Island of Stability" hypothesis should be right, you've said yourself that the 115-protons element is not stable. And the 116-protons one (Uuh) mustn't be either. So if Lazar wished to make believable his claim of having used a stable superheavy element, he should have shot even higher in terms of atomic number. Science discredits him.

[laiocfar]

Quimics arent my strong point, to tell truth if i got a point in a quimic´s exam is the 1% of mistake. But as far as i know the periodic table could preditc any element in range and many of their caracterists. also by the periodic table you can search for an element with a short life spawn, another one who can turn it stable. Or a reactive one. Anyway this system is like a simple equation, so if dont got plenty research over the elements near the element "x" i can experiment too little over it.

2) Base defense... Particularly ethereals can be absolutely deadly if they attack your base. Go for at least plasma and fusion ball defenses, preferably more than one each + an anti-grav shield.
By the way, do multiple anti-grav shields have a cumulative effect?

I lost my base in Brasil to ethereals, it was before the defense system get build, and got a new base of ethereals in Peru.
I lost a veterans squad in the base defence, an elite squad in first attemp to remove the alien base, another veteran squad attacking the alien base, a rookies squad also attacking these base, another green squad in the base defence of the second base in Brasil(i won with one survivor who was a captain translate from Europe to America) and a third rookies squad in the last attemp to get them out of America. Right now two bases (alien and mine) coexist in Southamerica.

[gregor]

hmm... good that there is a save/load option.... not to meniton the option to reserve the time units.

[Japo]

But as far as i know the periodic table could preditc any element in range and many of their caracterists.

You're right. That's why we'd know that the element 115 could be synthesized, even if it hadn't been synthesized yet. That is theoretically, because the element 1,150 could also be *theoretically* synthesized--but no.

I lost my base in Brasil to ethereals, it was before the defense system get build, and got a new base of ethereals in Peru.

Jolly news, back onto the topic: UFO - Enemy Unknown. (Even though this scientific light talk was great, wasn't it?)