Abortion/Contraception - Page 3

PrejudiceSucks · 07-09-2005, 08:00 PM

Hmm to be honest, the sex drive is just another human characteristic and giving a child away for adoption is not a smart move. How would you feel if you parents were still alive when you were a teenager but you knew that they'd just abandoned you?

Contraception will never be 100% effective, but it's a lot better than bringing a child into the world that didn't want to be born.

It's also not easy to resist sex, there's a program on the BBC at the moment when they're making teenagers not have sex for 5 months (I think) and some of them are going mental.

But there we are. If we shouldn't not have babies then the Earl of Condom should never have got so bored.

Fruit Pie Jones · 07-09-2005, 08:09 PM

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So what about those people - and they are legion - who are not mature enough to have sex but are doing it anyway? Personally, I think the problem stems from people believing that they're entitled to have sex with no consequences, simply because that's what the empty heads on TV have been telling them for years. Everyone loves to point out that teenage pregnancy is a problem, and it is. Lots of people believe that distributing contraceptives to fourth-graders is actually taking a step toward solving that problem. It is not, and if this train of thought is ridden to the end of the line, the problem will only continue to get worse. Proponents of mandatory contraceptive dispensers in elementary schools will be mystified as to why the problem has not solved itself, but they will not even consider that maybe they're looking at it from the wrong perspective. I say people need to be taught at an early age that sex isn't just something you do for fun, and that there's a lot of responsibility involved. Until you are ready to deal with the possible consequences of sex, you shouldn't be having it. (And guess what: A 15-year-old is not ready to deal with that, no matter what he or she may think.) Considering that our society is very creative at coming up with ways of avoiding personal responsibility for anything, however, I don't see this happening anytime soon, if ever.

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That's an easy one. Making reproduction enjoyable ensures the propagation of the species.

Sebatianos · 07-09-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Sep 7 2005, 10:00 PM
Hmm to be honest, the sex drive is just another human characteristic and giving a child away for adoption is not a smart move. How would you feel if you parents were still alive when you were a teenager but you knew that they'd just abandoned you?

Well at least I'd have the life so I could hate them for it. They wouldn't have killed me before I started using my own body... So tell me again - is abortion really better?

Would you really prefer to kill somebody, then to tell him he/she isn't wanted?

And people going mental because they didn't have sex for 5 months - well there were decades when teenagers didn't even know what sex was!!! They couldn't have gotten menatl over it, because in that age they were starting to experiance masturbation - not really every knowing how the body of a member of the different sex looked like.

If they're going mental - it's not because their sexual drive is so strong - but because society today forces you to think that way too early!

As I teacher I've seen 9 year old trying to act "cool" - so they were being extremely obscene - and they weren't in puberty yet - so it wasn't due to their hormones. It was due to the society! That would have to change!!!

Havell · 07-09-2005, 08:10 PM

I don't think anyone could regard an abortion as a minor thing, it is a major surgical procedure. In the US, where healthcare must be paid for, it becomes even more of an issue as they are quite pricey.

Fruit Pie Jones · 07-09-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by PrejudiceSucks@Sep 7 2005, 02:00 PM
Hmm to be honest, the sex drive is just another human characteristic and giving a child away for adoption is not a smart move. How would you feel if you parents were still alive when you were a teenager but you knew that they'd just abandoned you?

Abandoned? Is that what you think adoption is? Do you really see no difference between placing your child with a well-established adoption agency and leaving your child in a dumpster? Before you answer, I have to tell you that my adopted sister doesn't quite see it the same way.

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It's also not easy to resist sex, there's a program on the BBC at the moment when they're making teenagers not have sex for 5 months (I think) and some of them are going mental.

That's pure crap. Teenagers who "go mental" simply because they can't have sex for five months are simply looking for an excuse to go mental.

blastradius14 · 07-09-2005, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by Sebatianos@Sep 7 2005, 03:10 PM
Would you really prefer to kill somebody, then to tell him he/she isn't wanted?
They couldn't have gotten menatl over it, because in that age they were starting to experiance masturbation - not really every knowing how the body of a member of the different sex looked like.

Whoa there. Removing a pre-fetus is not killing a child you have grown attached to, or blasting a teenager that is useful to society off the face of the earth...

Some of us go through that stuff before we are even teenagers; I've known what women look like for longer than I have been a teenager :Brain:

Sebatianos · 07-09-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by blastradius14@Sep 7 2005, 10:20 PM
Whoa there. Removing a pre-fetus is not killing a child you have grown attached to, or blasting a teenager that is useful to society off the face of the earth...

You're right - it's not like killing a child you've grown attached too - that's why people take it too easily. It's still murder!

Killing something that will develop into a live human or killing the live human is exactly the same!
If nothing else - otherwise they shouldn't put on trial soldiers, who have stabbed pregnent women - only so they would loose their children... That wouldn't be child murder then, but simple pre-fetus removal!
And people should start telling women who have lost their child during laber - they shouldn't feel bad about it, because it's nothing but a pre-child...

think about it - just because it's not born yet, doesn't mean it's not alive and human!

gregor · 07-09-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sebatianos@Sep 7 2005, 08:33 PM
Killing something that will develop into a live human or killing the live human is exactly the same!

Uf! i better tie a knot on my love maschine then.

Sometimes things get spilled out and i don't want to find my self in front of some court. :-D

It's interesting how some religions allow this if the mother's life is threatened. and i agree in those cases it should be allowed to have option for abortion.

Tulac · 07-09-2005, 09:06 PM

I'd allow abortion because an unwanted baby would have an unhappy life, and there are many children that are waiting for being adopted...

Lonely Vazdru · 07-09-2005, 09:19 PM

Wow ! Yet another killer thread where today's youth boldly proves how backwards things have gone since brave people (mostly women by the way) fought long and hard to gain freedom over zealotry and conservative thinking. And it only took a couple of decades. Tell me about society's brainwashing power !

Edit : and you can refrain from feeling all warmed up against me beause i despise your point of view on this particular topic. Keep on multiplying. In the end, you win, i loose.