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[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Lulu_Jane @ Jan 5 2007, 08:34 AM) [snapback]273379[/snapback]</div>

I watched most of the trial (yes I'm that nerdy sometimes) and in my view it seemed like the only people turning it into a circus were Saddams lawyers, his brother-in-law and the American "representitive," (incidentally, why the hell was he there anyway!?)[/b]

I guess they need someone to confirm that they don't just say he got executed but that they really did it. Probably one of their countless "secret" people.

Originally posted by Lulu Jane
I also believe that George Bush is doing his "cause" (yuk!) a huge disservice by piping up that he doesn't agree with how the execution occured. He got what he wanted, and should stop stirring the pot. He's already mirred in the shades of Vietnam. It can only get worse.

Wise words here in my opinion. But on the other hand, that's what he's like probably: Embarressing th USA

Originally posted by Lulu Jane
Democracy? Pfft. It may not be perfect, but it sure beats the hell out of tanks and guns and bombs everywhere let me tell you. And the one thing I've learned from seeing this muck is that tanks and guns and bombs are the least effective thing to help put such a system in place - just like a tree with rotten roots.

Right. Ever seen a healthy tree on scorched earth?

[Grinder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(U-Boat Commander David @ Jan 4 2007, 11:34 AM) [snapback]273225[/snapback]</div>

Im 14 and i saw it... l0l pwned! :bleh:
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And you also seem to be proud of it. Many kids in your age act like that.
And that is exactly the reason why A there's the minimum age and
B it was perfectly right to remove that link.

[Japo]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Icewolf @ Jan 5 2007, 09:37 AM) [snapback]273394[/snapback]</div>

Right. Ever seen a healthy tree on scorched earth?[/b]

Well, post-Second World War Germany and Japan for example, but a World War is a very special case. And as I've said I don't think Iraq is going anywhere near democracy. And if the excuse for the coup in Thailand was that democracy was going down towards populism or whatever the generals say, the logical consequence is that if you end the current dictatorship and implement democracy it will go the same way down. Maybe the generals think that everything will be fine because they'll negotiate the end of terrorism, good luck with that, it doesn't look like it.

[gregor]

i read today about this USA kid who wanted to reanact the video. well kind of he did the full thing and removed himself from the human kind gene pool. natural selection at it's best.

[Titan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Jan 5 2007, 06:25 PM) [snapback]273471[/snapback]</div>

i read today about this USA kid who wanted to reanact the video. well kind of he did the full thing and removed himself from the human kind gene pool. natural selection at it's best.
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I belive it was a 6 yr old Pakistani kid..
Gregor.. One warning; Cut the BS/Spamming. OK?

[Lulu_Jane]

Oh good god, that's pretty horrific. And idiotic.

[CJ Marren]

Good parenting is clearly in play there!

And Saddam should at least have been imprisoned for life, or at most shot.

A hanging is the most disrespectful manner of execution; being shot is considered honourable. It won't be worth it when his supporters rise up against the US/British forces and cause even more pointless loss of life.

[Lulu_Jane]

Originally posted by C J Marren
A hanging is the most disrespectful manner of execution; being shot is considered honourable.

Perhaps it is where you come from, but I believe that dead is dead, no-matter how it happens. There is nothing honourable about capital punishment no-matter what method is used, whether it be hanging, beheading, lethal injection or a bullet - I don't believe any part of it is particularly honourable for either the condemmed or the exocutioners.

Just my opinion of course.

[Deichgraf]

hm...

I'm against the death warrant and glad we don't have it here in germany.
Making him a martyr in the eyes of his followers was a really big mistake and hanging him is an unclean method in my eyes.
Imprisonment for life - yes -- death penalty - no.

[Japo]

By the way and off topic, I read the boy was 10 years old, and his origins were Guatemalan but it's a disgrace whatever the details.

Anyway it seems that showcasing something makes it attractive to be emulated, and not only for kids. Of course most times one's got to have the intention in the first place, but sometimes it's the TV which pushes you to action. For example, a melancholic person hears about a particular way of comitting suicide, and for some reason he does it as well. Or some moron dreams about going into a killing spree but restrains himself, and then he hears about another moron who did it and in his mind it's now somewhat socially endorsed ("I won't be the only weirdo having done it"), and he does it following the same patterns. Although there were dozens of hangings in Western movies, but I guess it can be perceived differently when one knows it's for real, and besides old movies didn't use to show gruesome details, the camera looked another way and it was implied.

But I guess you can't be censoring TV for that, adults are adults and their behaviour is their responsibility, and as for kids they should be carefully watched by their parents. Nowadays kids watch all sorts of things and most likely playing a FPS won't do them much harm, but then watching a single execution may have a very deep impact.