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[slx]

and it happend today... again!

[rabadi]

Originally Posted by slx

and it happend today... again!

Yep, probably something to do with the number...

[Andras78]

Today, again
problems with the numbers...

[Ohne Mitleid]

After a little research, it turns out it has to do with URL encoding. It just means that certain characters need to be converted to a different code before they can be transmitted over the Internet.

"...Only alphanumerics [0-9a-zA-Z], the special characters "$-_.+!*'()," [not including the quotes - ed], and reserved characters used for their reserved purposes may be used unencoded within a URL."

You can get a list and read more about it if you want. It's kind of interesting (to me, at least) and to "Oliver+%26+Company ". Isn't "Skull+%26+Crossbones" the symbol for Piracy or Poison (death to the quiz, in this case).

It still doesn't fully explain why today's damaged tissue (lesion) didn't register. Perhaps this was the time it was damaged after the last quiz trauma. Wasn't that the fifth or so such incident?

I guess it really has little to do with the actual quiz itself, just something to be on the lookout for in the future. I'm going to view this just like it is another buggy game. Now that I know what the bug is, I know what to look out for in the future.

[Luchsen]

No offense, but we knew that already. Better said, we knew that it is a little bit different. URL encoding is not the problem (spaces work, for instance) but the solution. The & is parsed as AND so we have to replace it by %26. For 7th Legion I thought that the problem could be that it was 7th Legion, The in the past. Tests via dummy accounts didn't confirm that, though.

[Ohne Mitleid]

Originally Posted by Luchsen

No offense, but we knew that already. Better said, we knew that it is a little bit different. URL encoding is not the problem (spaces work, for instance) but the solution. The & is parsed as AND so we have to replace it by %26. For 7th Legion I thought that the problem could be that it was 7th Legion, The in the past. Tests via dummy accounts didn't confirm that, though.

Forum is supposed to be about open discussion, emphasis on open. To me, this means listening to others is just as important is spouting out my own opinions. So...

From "The Tick" (paraphrased):
Arthur (?): No offense intended, Tick.
Tick: No offense comprehended.

If "we" already knew that, then I was not a member of the "we" when that happened. I knew something about the ampersand (&), but couldn't remember the number needed to replace it, so I tried looking it up on the Internet.

I didn't know anything about the The for 7th Legion, but that just leads me to believe it is possible that the data for that entry exists in two places in two different forms. If that were true, a == would never be possible since the information doesn't match itself.

I'm still trying to figure out why it accepts spaces which, according to theory, should technically be %20, but they show up as plus signs (+) in the URL. It's an opportunity for more knowledge and a learning experience for me, so I thought I would share what I discovered on the way.

Anyway, I was just looking at it from the viewpoint of a puzzle to be solved. I've heard that if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. This might not always be true, but it didn't feel right to me to constantly complain about not getting my PoE for the Daily Quiz errors without trying to do at least a little bit of research as to why.

The game is afoot kind of thing, you know? Hmm... there is no Sherlock Holmes smilie...

[Luchsen]

It accepts spaces because the quiz has nothing to do with URLs. It's a JavaScript application that compares your input with the title of the respective game. Either the JavaScript sees the ampersand as an operator or the site stores the ampersands in game titles as & or %26 to avoid an operator or an HTML error for other instances.


And to quote your link:

Originally Posted by your link

URL encoding normally replaces a space with a + sign.

...so it would even accept spaces if it would use the URL because the URLs have spaces in the raw data, but I hope it doesn't use the URLs - that would be ... beyond words.

[Ohne Mitleid]

Thank you, I can see that now.
Javascript, PHP, URI encoding, URL encoding, not talking to each other in the same computer language... bleh. As I said though, a learning process.

Just out of curiosity, did anyone check "The 7th Legion" or "Seventh Legion" with the dummy accounts? It doesn't really matter in the long run, just interesting to me.

[Luchsen]

It's a learning vacuum. I've read a 1000-page PHP instruction and forgot approximately 999 pages. For HTML, JavaScript and CSS I always use references. I should at least start a notebook for the problem solutions I reach, but I'm to unorganised to do that.

I did only check "7th Legion, The", "7th Legion%27 The" and "%37th Legion" (for an unlikely problem with a beginning cypher). I didn't think of that the game could have been "The 7th Legion". Another cause could be a wrong relation between screenshot and game, but that is unlikely.

[slx]

and today again i entered the correct answer and the 'quiz master' didn't accept it...


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Always pushing me aside
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I'm running out of time
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