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[Blood-Pigggy]

The Core was kinda lame.

[Rogue]

Just idea of the movie made me never seen it. I might check it, but when there are not better movies around.

Couple of days ago I saw a Sci-Fi classic I remembered seing 30 years ago: Forbiden Planet. It was filmed in 50s, but still very entertaining.

[plix]

Originally posted by Sebatianos@Apr 11 2006, 10:27 AM
...Nosferatu...The Birth of a Nation (very rasistic with KKK being the good guys, but still...)...

Strongly seconded. Birth of a Nation was easily the greatest movie of it's era and one of the all-time best movies ever made (the racist elements can be debated to death, as can the social norms of the time; the fact remains that there is far more to the movie and it's impact far more significant than that). Nosferatu remains one of the all-time great horror movies, and the paradigm to which all greats of the genre are still compared.

To add a few mid-century examples, movies such as Cool Hand Luke, Welles' masterpiece Citizen Kane, Casablanca, 12 Angry Men, North by Northwest, The and Maltese Falcon also all fit the bill. These are movies which, by modern standards, rely on no special effects whatsoever and all outstrip and simply flat-out shame the blockbusters of today.

Don't get me wrong, an occasional "stupid" film (Die Hard, etc) is extremely enjoyable, but the entire medium has shifted toward "wow-factor" to such a degree that dialogue character development, and acting have become of little-to-no concern. Movies today serve no purpose as an art; they're become simply filler. The question then becomes what's the point?

[efthimios]

The point is they are entertainment and to make money aka sell. If you were old enough to live the time or if you have studied it, you might remember that Hitchcock was not seen in a good eye, not the eye he is seen today. He was seen as nothing but commercial filmmaker and his movies as not in the same class as others of the time. I strongly suggest you read a book about classical hollywood cinema.


As for good scripts and good movies in general, there are movies like Kiss Kiss Bang Bang that are simply awesome, though not made in the 50s

[The Fifth Horseman]

IMO, there are classics to which you can introduce a kid without much problem - Another World, for example (or its successor, Flashback), but there are many which require a more developed taste in old games, not to mention a high HG resistance level (stands for Horrible Graphics).
Find something that has bearable graphics and addictive gameplay and let the kid play it. That should do the trick.
Show him that:
1. The old games don't need any super-PC to play well. This might also be a way to introduce the kid to PC construction in general (give him an oldschool machine, but provide him parts to upgrade it every once in a while).
2. Despite somewhat archaic presence, they are still helluva fun.
3. He can get most of them for free or so cheap it makes little difference.

[Sebatianos]

Well, this can also depend on the games themselves. I remember kids going nuts over Spiderman game on Abandonia - because the new spiderman just came out on DVD over here at the time the game was updated.

They forgot all about new games which were a hit just a week before - they all had to have Spiderman. They were surprised they could fit it on a disk instead of a CD, but they loved it.
I observed the same phenomena with C64 game X-men and the time X-men 2 the movie came out.

[omg]

tis 2006. so if i have kids within the next few years (a distinct possibility) then they will be of a gaming age at around 2015.. by that point v.r will most likely have happened. when that does half life 2 is going to be quaint oldschool. i dont think it will be so easy to get kids raised on that to appreciate the wonders of the zx spectrum, or cga graphics. i think we all have a bias towards these emulators and games because of nostalgia. we played them when we were kids. we enjoy playing them because they remind us of those youthfull days free of responsibility. those of us who havnt yet got kids, our kids are going to have accsess to computing the like of which was but a dream when we were kids. i was raised on a zx spectrum. my kids will probably be raised on some quantam monster. is like i had my speccy. when my stepdad busted his old pong handheld from the attic me and my brothers played it for like 20 minutes then got bored. something that seemed to depress him a great deal.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Yeah, the technology constantly goes forward and onward... interesting might be if someone actually went and produced some miniaturized P1-class computers... heck, todays cellphones have similar parameters to some oldschool things.
That might be possible... but I think I'll start another thread on the subject.

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Originally posted by TheGiantMidgit@Apr 11 2006, 12:51 PM
If they play games, wait until they're at an age where they can appreciate the classics. A 9 year old won't see the value in a Colecovision, but a teen may. ...that, and only show them these things if they express interest. Don't just thrust things upon them.

I was 8 when I played Sam and Max.

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by omg@Apr 12 2006, 03:05 PM
we enjoy playing them because they remind us of those youthfull days free of responsibility.

Well, that's the case with our comunity... But look at other things in life...

Chess is an ancient game yet it's still played and adored by many people world wide (many kids as well) and it's very low tech.
There are people that love "old stuff" whatever it is (collecting old coins, old postcards, old stamps,...) simply because those things are old. The same will happen to computer games (actually it already is). There are people visiting this site too young to be nostalgic about DOS games, but they love them. That's the group that will preserve the memory of the game. May not be our own children, but the games will not die out. Of course our little comunity is doing a great work at not letting them die as well, by keeping the memory alive and even offering downloads (along with technical support). This means that kids who'll go exploring for old games will have a much easier job and won't have to look all over - but will be able to get top games with recomendations and explenations - and even make virtual a friend or two along the way.