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Thankz Wendy.....Yes I had a problem too with the maze I just seemed to be going nowhere until I R clicked on the area to the R I wanted to go and before I could think I was on the ledge and over into the abyss aaaaah..It took a few goes before I got it right. The way to the board seems hard but here I go....Keep up the good work ...SAL

:wallbash: Wendy... I am trying to get to the bridge, which looks like it has collapsed but as soon as I go through the rock entrance I fall off the path and die....HELP what am I doing wrong ....I think I need to go and play a less stressful game or take a holiday...SAL

Hi Sal, good to see you are still hanging in there!
If you are referring to the bridge in the room to the left of the waterfall/river room (which certainly sounds like it) then be aware that as soon as you are on the screen, you must stop walking (very quickly hit the left arrow-key, because that is the direction you are already walking in (or hit the up-arrow), which then brings you to a stop) then save!!! then hug the rock wall to north of you. In other words, move up, left, up, left, up etc to hug the wall. (Save often all the way thru this screen!) When you get to where the path goes over what looks like small rocks/rubble, at it's most northerly part, when you cant go up any more just walk straight left, and stop just past the rubble, and save. Then very carefully negotiate the part where the path turns downward to the first wooden bridge (which lies facing straight downwards "north to south"). Save. Walk directly south straight down along the wooden bridge (if you fall off, you started off too near to a side). You will automatically stop up against the south "rock" (black shape). Save. Walk straight right, watching where the second wooden bridge seems to extend to. Stop and save. This second wooden bridge (going up from south to north-west) is vey deceptive - it looks like it is flat planks. but you are actually seeing the side plus top of the planks. Unfortunately, you have to zigzag up here, falling often at first, until you get the feel of where the top of the planks is, and where the sides are. You will probably err too far to the left at first. Save just about every centimetre. When you get to the ledge on the other side of this second bridge, save again, then carefully go up and around to left along the ledge, hugging the north wall as much as possible, and then out the screen to the left of the ledge. Thie ledges/bridges screen/section reminds me of the classic Kings Quest tricky mountain paths!

I have a problem with the game kicking me out to the desktop every time I try to go in a certain doorway. So I will have to install DOSBox on my old PC and try on that PC! Sudden darn compatibility problem (even under DOSBox on my Win XP PC)! I will be away till Saturday, then will tackle this.
Also, so far I cannot figure out how to make a pact with the witch. (She is not far from the room south of the lava-bed room where the board is, if you have not found her yet). So I keep getting killed by her, or having to try to run away.
Anyway, I will come back to the Forum on Saturday 29th Sept to see if anything is going on.
P S the lava-bed "eruptions" is a case of saving then observation of the events in the room for a while first, then reloading, then sheer timing and good luck. Save often! But do not forget to first solve the problem you are told about when you first enter the room. Regards
Wendy

PS The bridge has not collapsed, it is just out of sight behind the bottom "rock" (black shadow/dark part) and runs dead-parallel to the bottom of the screen (i.e. straight left/right). You can judge more or less where it is by looking at the direction of the two boards. Regards. Wendy

Wendy..........thankz once again...I am working myself up to trying again..I know I can do it ..I have been using the mouse and I notice you are using keys..That is probably why I am overshooting the path each time I will try the keys and see how i GO.. just by the way I kept an old computer for years just so that I could play DOS games. I played "Krondor " (the original ) over and over again. I love that game the old comp finally crashed for good and I can't seem to get Krondor to play in dos box....Regards SAL

<_< Wendy....I DID IT I got the board....I had to use the keys just as you said. The mouse was not reponding quickly enough and I came off the path every time. I now have the problem of getting out with the board without being hit by rocks from the geysers also my torches have been blown out. When I get over all of this I am going back for the sword because I think this is one of the bargaining chips with 'ol witchy anyway catch you later...Regards SAL

Hi Sal I got back from my trip earlier than I expected, so here I am again.
Sal, you almost certainly need to solve the problem of the torch being blown out, BEFORE you go across the room to get the board (as I tried to say in my previous "hint"), because I do not think you can solve it after you get back with the board (at least, I could not find a way to do so). I could NOT find a way to relight my torch when I got back across the room with the board. So if you have not got back across the room with the board AND have not found a way to relight the torch, then probably you should not waste time trying to get back across the room, but must go back to your saved-game before you tried to cross the room to get the board and first think how to solve the torch problem first before even trying this lava-bed room. (Actually it is very simple, I could have kicked myself when I realised what the answer was: it comes down to better planning (hint, hint).
Actually, if you have not got the sword yet (which I had presumed you had got, seeing you found your way through the mines-maze) AND if you did not solve the torch problem at the lava-bed room, then it might pay you to go back to the saved-file you did (I presume) after exiting the mines-maze at the "cliffs and central platform and sword hidingplace" (all are on the same screen) and get the sword first, because to get to the witch you need to go back to near the lava-bed/geysers vicinity anyway.
I will check regularly to see if you need more help with all the above.
PS if you found a way to re-light the blown-out torch, please tell me how to do so, in order that I can include it in my walkthrough-in-progress. I found a different way to overcome the problem!
Regards, Wendy

<_< Wendy!! I thought I had to get the board in order to get the sword. I made it to the centre ledge but could not get over to the R side ledge where the hole is and where I presume the sword to be. How do I get over to the Right hand ledge. I can't jump..tried that.. Why do I need the board if I can get the sword without it???????HELP saw 'ol wichy but all she wants to do is eat me...won't even discuss options...Ok Ok now I have that all out in the open I will go back and try to get the board again... Further hints would be very gratefully received I am not too proud to accept help....regards SAL

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<_< Wendy!! I thought I had to get the board in order to get the sword. I made it to the centre ledge but could not get over to the R side ledge where the hole is and where I presume the sword to be. How do I get over to the Right hand ledge. I can't jump..tried that.. Why do I need the board if I can get the sword without it???????HELP saw 'ol wichy but all she wants to do is eat me...won't even discuss options...Ok Ok now I have that all out in the open I will go back and try to get the board again... Further hints would be very gratefully received I am not too proud to accept help....regards SAL
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Hi Sal
Sorry, I got myself confused re collecting the sword before the board!!! Sorry for mis-leading you - I must have still been too stressed out from my turbulent air-flight! Yes, you indeed have to get the board before you can get the sword!!! Sorry, sorry, sorry!!!

So, how do you get the board? Well, remember as you enter the lava-bed room (and you can see the board at the north side of the room), you get a message that the draft in the room has blown out your torch? Well, revert back to the save you made in the room below (south of) the lava-bed room (before you entered the lava-bed room), and drop your still-alight torch/es here. Save. Now enter the room (which is lit by the lava) and seeing that you are not carrying your lit-torches, they cannot be blown out! Now painfully/carefully make your way across the lava-bed room to the board, saving as you go. "Take board". Save. Now come painfully back across the room, saving as you go (I used about 3 saves going, and 3 saves coming back). When you exit this room, remember to pick up your torches again (which are in any event giving you light in this room, which without them would be pitch black), and breath a sigh of relief!!!.

By the way, after I did all the above, and went back via the mines-maze to the ledges/ sword screen, and used the board to get the sword, I thought that it would be simple to now go back and intimidate the witch (because I have the sword in inventory) into making a pact. Not so : I cannot find the correct method. I tried things like 'talk to witch", "make pact with witch", "make alliance with Minas Thyl" and various such combinations, to no avail. I also tried"show sword to witch" etc, but I still get eaten (quite amusing, but frustrating!). So I have not found the correct method yet. (Also have not had enough time to experiment sufficiently, due to having been away for a few days, and being exhausted upon my return).
So, if you find the answer re the pact with the witch, please post the answer on the forum for us.
Many thanks. Wendy

k: Wendy..thank you for clearing that up.. I thought for a moment there I might be fading off the screen (so to speak!) I WILL try again...IWILL IWILL IWILL I WILL NOT LET THIS GAME BEAT ME AAAAAAAAH....sal