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[plague]

Originally posted by Sean+Dec 14 2005, 11:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sean @ Dec 14 2005, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-plague@Dec 14 2005, 06:27 PM
Pc. You can do much more with it than just play.

You can't with the 360? :crazy: [/b][/quote]
I don't know. Can you do 3d modelling with it?

[The Fifth Horseman]

The console games are toooo expensive and I know my self good enough that a game bores me after a few hours of playing. so I prefer valuepacks, abandonware and freeware ... saves a lot of money.

Same here.

Altough I am considering purchase of a pocket-size console... GBA SP, maybe, simply because I cannot carry my PC on my back when I am travelling.

[omg]

lets just stick to this as being for games, becuse if it isnt its like debating a normall car versus formula 1,
as for the 3d modelling thing. the people i know who have built rendering farms and lightwave terminals wouldent let your copy of doom 3 anywhere near those terminals. your pc is supoosedly a multi use system but at the end of the day if you want performance you cant have it all. rendering farms and video editing terminals have dedicated drives that if you were to install a game on those drives the owners would slap you. repeatedly.
so there is absalutley no point going "nyerr my pc can do 3d modelling internet, and play games" becuse when it comes to Pro Apps they like to have a hd to themselfs (or at the least a primary partition) and they like to be operated from a windows install that isnt full of gigabytes of useless game data.
as for the games being to expensive for consoles, well they are the same price as pc games, what you mean is you cant get free games for them.

[The Niles]

(semi) Professionals have render farms, amateurs have multi use PCs.
I have heard a few tweakers turning several XBox's into a render farm (using Linux) but it is cheaper to use PCs .

Not sure where you buy your games but in the Netherlands console games are deffnitly more expensive then PC titles. There are a few exceptions (Half Life 2 commes to mind) that come close to console prices at launch but PC titles overall are cheaper (by about €10) at launch also PC titles tend to drop in price faster then console titles.

[Blood-Pigggy]

Console games in the US are generally cheaper.
New PC releases go for as high as 60 dollars, while consoles usually always float around 50 dollars, in fact, my Resident Evil 4 Collector's Edition only cost 60 dollars, (same as a Half Life 2 game when it was first releaseD) and it had several more things than HL2.
Several PC games go for high prices even if they aren't that popular, it just takes more time and money to make them, so I guess they'd have to charge more.

@Timpsi : Not sure if you knew this already, but ROMs are 100% illegal, unless they're homemade. All that "Time to delete in 1 day" is a load of bull, any piracy is piracy, even if it's for a old system, and unlike Abandonware, it really isn't supported by most of the gaming community.
I agree, it is awesome to play the oldies on my PC, but it just isn't legal at all.
And about %80 percent of people who own a computer for gaming do not have a gamepad, I don't see why you would want one either, they're mostly all horribly designed by people who have no clue how to make a controller. I still have one from around 2000 that's better than anything else they've been putting out.

When it comes to console controllers, they're about 500 times better than a PC Gamepad.



On the case of keeping this "games only", it definitely should be, and whoever said "Does the Xbox360 have photoshop?" doesn't prove a single thing, Photoshop costs about the same as a 360, while providing a huge load less.
In fact, Photoshop is so overpriced it's ridiculous, most people that actually own it have a pirated version.

I really believe X-Box Live, despite its price, is MUCH better online than playing on a PC, I don't have to worry about stability issues, lag, server ping, and other such annoying details. Not only that, but those headsets are amazing, sure, you can plug one into your PC, but how many games actually support that?

When it comes to easy use, a console is much better, but for a deeper experience I'd go for the PC, both old and new. Besides, if you're really only going to go for one system (if you're that biased) then you're going to miss out on several games.

[Havell]

Here PC Games cost around ?30-40 on realease, with console games costing between ?40-50.

@Pigggy, there is an extrmely wide selactino of gamepads for PC, many of which are carbon copies of cnsole controllers, so your "better gamepad" argument doesn't wash.

Oh, and playing ROMs is a gaming advantage, whether legal or not.

[Spoonman]

60 dollars? Well here in the netherlands they're mostly about 50 euro's when just released, and then you've got a expensive PC game. But I just wait until they're about 10 euros, which sometimes is quite soon after the release.

Couldn't tell how that goes for console games though, I never buy any of those.

[Sean]

Originally posted by Havell@Dec 15 2005, 05:28 PM
Here PC Games cost around ?30-40 on realease, with console games costing between ?40-50.

@Pigggy, there is an extrmely wide selactino of gamepads for PC, many of which are carbon copies of cnsole controllers, so your "better gamepad" argument doesn't wash.

Oh, and playing ROMs is a gaming advantage, whether legal or not.

?40-50?

In my local ASDA brand new games cost around ?32-40
I haven't seen a game other ?40 for a year or so now and that's including big gaming megastores. Prices aren't really that much of an issue. A ?10 difference either way just means a little bit more saving. A lot of PC games aren't as polished as their console counterparts as they are constantly 'patched' with a console game testing is exhaustive as a buggy game just won't sell.

I think really it's best to have a decent gaming console and then a workable PC. That way both thirsts are quenched for quite a low price. If money isn't an issue then I would say get a top end PC. Most of us don't have that kind of cash though

[efthimios]

As usual in the UK we like to getting behind-pushed and pay more money for our games. As Havell said new console games are about 50 quid whish is like $88 and new PC games cheaper, at 35-40 quid, which is $70.

The gamepad thing is just a joke, right? You can get any type of controller for the PC, including 100% copies of gaming console controllers if that is your thing.

[omg]

50 quid for new console games... well im not sure about the 360 but if you are paying 50 quid for games on other platforms, where are you buying them? harrods?
go to gamestation man. every town i go to first thing i do is check out there gamestation. brand new x box games for 20 quid. loads of second hand games for 4 for 20. i spent 20 quid in there yesterday for 2 games admitidally, but as those two games were bloodrayne and fable im not to fussed.