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Old 17-06-2005, 12:16 PM   #113
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@Jun 17 2005, 06:49 AM
But it does gradually make us weaker, causing out bones to over time become brittle,... wouldn't evolution deem this a factor worth improving on?


It's called the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics. Everything degrades over time. Evolution supposedly can overcome the 2nd Law, but no one has proven how this can happen.
This is an extremely common misquotation of the 2nd law by creationists. They quote is as "Everything tends towards enthropy (chaos, basically)", the actual law states "In a closed system, everything tends towards enthropy.".
The omission of this tiny phrase complete changes it's meaning, it's like saying "It is illiegal to buy alcohol in the UK", when the actual law says "If you are below the age of 18, it is illiegal to buy alcohol in the UK."

EDIT: For an example of this, think of a apple. If you leave it in a dustbin (closed system0 in will go mouldy and deacy (ie, chaotic). If you leave it outside (open system) it will grow into an extremely ordered thing, known as an apple tree. [/b][/quote]
The universe is a closed system by definition. Unless you can cite an energy source outside of the universe. Any takers?

Therefore everything tends towards entropy. Yes the apple and the apple tree will grow but it will still eventually die and rot by purely naturalistic means. Adding energy is 100% destructive. The sun's energy is 100% destructive to everything on earth except for one thing. Chlorophyll. Adding energy is 100% destructive unless there is a complex mechanism to harness the energy and Chlorophyll is extremely complex.
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