<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DeathDude @ Sep 3 2006, 08:08 PM) [snapback]252570[/snapback]</div>
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That's a first I've heard of Sunn 0)) not being called a metal band, many of the boards I have frequent say they are a metal band moreso than other bands.[/b]
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Many people cite the lack of drums/solos/general structure as enough to exclude them from the genre.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(DeathDude @ Sep 3 2006, 08:08 PM) [snapback]252570[/snapback]</div>
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Ateryu may be part of the metalcore genre but that's not part of the metal genre at all it's been practically accepted by most people on metal boards if ya look around, just like nu-metal isn't either, really annoys me when I see their albums in the metal section cause they don't belong there.
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I agree to an extent, metalcore is somewhere between hardcore and metal, and it's difficult to group it in with one or the other. I think a lot of the original metalcore bands are closer to punk, but a lot of the modern bands are closer to metal (in my opinion of course).
As for the metal section thing, I take it you're talking about record stores? I can only speak for the UK, but in record stores here there's usually a 'Rock/Pop' section, and a 'Metal' section (as well as 'Urban' and 'Electronic/Dance') but that's all. This generally means loads of bands are in sections they don't really belong in. Never mind Atreyu, in the metal section you'll find bands like Blink182 and Jimmy Eat World, as well as most of the punk bands...