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Old 21-01-2012, 02:09 AM   #253
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You might want to try Wizardry VIII (full CD ISO downloadable in the ISO Cellar here) for that. A bit more user friendliness in combat there. Though I generally liked it less than Wizardry VII, because of almost no possibility to avoid random encounters and a very limited choice of summoned creatures through spells, unlike in Dark Savant.
No if I try VIII, I'll buy it. I'd never do anything else. I respect sir-tech too much. Besides the release date was november 2001. That's after 9/11. Too new. I'd buy it for $5.99. Like on gog.com or steam or something. Old(er) games still have value, especially the better ones.

For example, Jagged Alliance 2, made by Sir-Tech, was released in July 1999. I'd never dream of not buying that if I was somebody who didn't have it. It's a great game, really. Something like that shouldn't be abandoneware. Put it up on steam or something for ~$5.00. It runs fine on win XP, but not sure about windows 7. Those issues could be worked out by the retailer.

Still, digital downloads are never as good as a fresh CD/DVD with a clearly written manual that you can hold in the palm of your hands and read at your leisure. I miss that. You can print things, sure. But it's not as good or durable as a professionally made manual that comes prepackaged.

VII isn't that bad it's just way over the top in terms of its save & load style.

I tried my hand at it again today. Played through two games total. Of course, I never redid anything so that means whatever mishaps I suffer I deal with...

Went bad again. No luck.

The first time through things seemed to be going good. I think I even had a lvl 4 fighter. Most of my guys were about lvl 3. I was wandering in that forest and found a shoreline. There were some trees to my left and were blocking the view. It looked like there was some room between me and the water so I thought I'd move forward to get a better look. The next thing I know my group starts dying. It says they drowned. I'm hitting the back key but nothing is happening. Then my whole group is dead. I never got much of any warning. It was brutal. I decide to try another group. This time around, I think that my knowledge of the game will help me get past this stage. So for a couple hours I'm beating things again to recover. I finally get down to the lower lvl of the dungeon and feel safe because my guys are lvl 3 and 2 and that has served me well in the past down there. But then I stumbled on about 10 cachre bug things. I didn't know hard they'd be so I decided to fight them. Besides, I've never had much luck running away from anything since I usually get blocked. Well, I quickly found out I wasn't any match for them as my group starts falling one by one. I finally decide to run. Lost 1 of the 3 guys. So 2 survive but they're beaten down. I try to rest them but their health goes up too slow. I'm kind of lost at this point too. I get attacked by 2 more bugs and I limp away from it ok. But at this point I'm feeling that the game is over. And sure enough, I get attacked again when I turned left. This time I don't survive. Get hit for 17 by one of em.

This game is hard. To be honest, coming into this, I thought the complaining I saw in this thread was just whining. I've seen lots of whining about various games in my time. I hate whiners. I'm usually fairly hardcore about things. I'm not a casual gamer. So I figured that I'd just prove em wrong. But I am humbled now as I realize that I was wrong. This game is firmly entrenched in the old-style save & load (and redo) way of gameplay. I suppose I could start doing that, but I never really liked that way of playing even when it was considered normal. Sure, I did it, but as I've said, it didn't feel right. So I'm not going to do that. I like to work through the problems I suffer in a game. But so far this game has handed me my butt and killed all of my attempts.

I never thought I'd ever come close to whining. But I'm close. I'm reaching back 20 years and asking this game to not push me over the edge. But I might be asking too much.

Last edited by atomicminds; 21-01-2012 at 02:41 AM.
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