um, but thats why i thought i would put it in Technical Forum....its a techy thing and thought it would add to the overall goodwill of the site. That, and how can you trust a spyware guide when you don't know the person. I can assure you, if any of the programs cause smoke to billow from my PC, you guys will be the first to hear about it. And promptly thereafter, the bill for a replacement system will be mailed to the head smurf