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[The Fifth Horseman]

I don't really have anything against people different from normal. It is when they begin to push their difference right in your face that I get furious. And that's what happening. Marriages are supposed to be between two people of _opposite_ genders. Anything else is, in my opinion, a travesty.

[Iron_Scarecrow]

I don't see anything wrong with gay marriages. I was going to explain my view but am unable to find the right words. :tai:

[madcrow]

Hey, this is great. Gay and lesbians deserve rights (espcially lesbians, heheheh)

Anyway, congratulations Spanish gays.

[Yobor]

I just saw this thread.

Woohoo!! :Jesus: arty: :happybday: :tnx:


I'm glad some people finally came to their senses and legalised it for good. Yay!

[Chuck the plant]

Originally posted by the_fifth_horseman@Jul 1 2005, 12:20 PM
I don't really have anything against people different from normal. It is when they begin to push their difference right in your face that I get furious.

I bet you also would've hated it when those g"oddamn *******" were marching the streets for their rights...

And that's what happening. Marriages are supposed to be between two people of _opposite_ genders. Anything else is, in my opinion, a travesty.

Why? Because that's the way it's been done for over twothousand years, because you're acustomed to that view, because "Gawd" said so, or is there any deeper reason why you "believe" so?

@ Triton: What you call "love" is just a mixture of different physical processes based on hormones, pheromones etc. which THEN influence the thinking of a person, not the other way round. So we're still on the PHYSICAL side.
But I guess we're getting nearer to the core of it now. Could it be that you suffer from an immense fear of somebody or something entering your "backdoor" and therefore can't imagine how anybody else could like it in any way?

There's more to life than mutual masturbation

Agreed on that, indeed there is. Now would you please tel me what you think this "more" is?
Is it "love"? Why then deny to loving homosexuals the right to marry if they love each other?
Is it caring about each other? See above.
Is it partnership? See above
Is it simply sex? See above

Simple question, clear answer please: What is your reason why homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry? Even IF we'd stick to your little "mental disorder"-theory: I wouldn't know any law that would prevent two depressives from marrying each other, same for ANY other mentally disoreded that are still able to look out for themselves and pose no threat to society. So I fear you need to find a better reason than that.

[Puffin]

There's more to life than mutual masturbation

So your idea of sex is stick it in, push a bit, then take it back out?
Or maybe just a way to reproduce?

About adoptions:
The reasons given against it here before were that the kid would "turn gay" and ruin the world with it's mental illness because homosexuals don't deserve to live (note the sarcasm).

Whether you like it or not, one could just the same say:
"I don't want Mr. and Mrs. A to adopt a child, Mrs. A has migraine and Mr. A's father had a heart condition. Sorry, the risk is too high."
Migraine and heart conditions are illnesses known to be inheritive. Homosexuality is NOT.

And.. EEEEEEW what Triton said about comparing homosexuality to pedofilia :blink:
Geez, how can you even say it? You must know better.
A young child can never be in a loving relationship with an older man/woman. The child would love the person as a father, or as a guardian, NOT as a sexual companion.

You're started to freak me out, Triton.

[Astral]

The child will grow up some day, and i don't know what there will be to explane to child... I'm against for homos. to take fo care a little child, i think the child have to be asked to if he won't or not...


I can't mess up with nature, nature is the only perfect intelegens that i know...

[Rogue]

Nice and clear reasoning, Puffin! :bye:

I used to believe that homosexuality is sickness, but after I meet couple of homosexuals, and befriended some of them, I came to understanding that there is nothing wrong with them, as I believed before.

As for adoption, I believe that in many cases homosexual pair might become better parents then heterosexual. Of course, that's just my opinion.

[BeefontheBone]

Apart from anything else, they definitely (at least start out) WANTING a child - not true of a lot of hetero couples.

[The Fifth Horseman]

I bet you also would've hated it when those g"oddamn *******" were marching the streets for their rights...

No. What makes them different from me, really? Skin color? This is not a deviation from established norms but simply an adaptation to the conditions.

Think from evolutionary point of view. There are positive behavioral deviations (those that in some way increase the chance of an organism to reproduce) and negative (those that reduce the chance to reproduce).
Homosexuals cannot have children with each other, ergo their deviation is negative. They want to adopt children. Have you thought that the children growing up with homosexual parents will see the model of homosexual family as being normal when in truth it is not such? Have you thought what will the child's psychology end up like?

Why? Because that's the way it's been done for over twothousand years, because you're acustomed to that view, because "Gawd" said so, or is there any deeper reason why you "believe" so?

No. Because the evolution says so. To reproduce you need two: a male and a female. Our species has this standard, as I would call it, hardcoded. Marriage was established in our civilisation as a form of acknowledging the fact that the two have formed a pair.

In other words, homosexuals act against the standards set by human evolution. Homosexualism is a deviation from the standard developed by thousands of years of human evolution.

Migraine and heart conditions are illnesses known to be inheritive. Homosexuality is NOT.

Rather the opposite. If they adopt a child, heart conditions and other genetic flaws cannot be transferred onto that child. Homosexuality is largely a matter of psychology, and if you let a pair of homosexuals to raise a child, it definitely can and will.

Or maybe just a way to reproduce?

In case you have not noticed, in the end everything boils down to reproduction. The fact that human beings experience pleasure during sexual acts was developed in the process of evolution as a method to promote reproduction, whether you accept it or not. When you experience the feelings of love or lust towards another person is because a less conscious but no less important part of your mind has decided that they have traits desired in your offspring.