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i did not start with a scenario, no kind of cheating whatsoever. i started with 1 (one) settler as usual, and 4 enemies, nothing else. no time or turn setting, no "lake", just the terrain was premade

[blastradius14]

Hehe. How much river though? Did you use lots of wine and gold squares intelligently?

much river
water is the basic of life
i didnt use wine (drunken workers dont do their job *g)
and no gold (it brings many shields, but no food)
city growth is the keypoint. every resource is connected to a certain terrain, but most terrains have low food, therefore not that useful. and you cannot set the resource where you want to, that makes it harder.
basically i built marketplace and aqueduct (in many cities there is simply not enough time to build more LOL )
it´s funny, when i started with this "test" i used an ordinary random map and my first figures were:
1st future technologie: 1530 ad
throne finished: 1625 ad
spaceship launched: 1700 ad (i skipped this one, because you cannot launch spaceship before christ )
all wonders: ? i didnt watch it on my first try
the wise: ? i didnt watch it on my first try
there was much time to build any kind of cityimprovements, but when time became less and less i had to reduce to the real essential improvements. this aspect i liked most, to find out what is really necessary, and it ended up in basically two improvements as you can read above.

@pipo
no, you can use every windows from 95 on (maybe even win 3.0, i am not sure)

[blastradius14]

I would use a fixed seed, then make a map from scratch. Only use wine hill squares for trade as it has the best food/production/trade output. If you only build cities where you can get all 4 resources, then you should have either wine or gold for moneys. the other squares should have like 1 or 2 hills, then all grassland. Fill all squares with river and your trade will be uber with democracy, or republic. More so with democracy, no corruption k:

[lethe]

Originally posted by WAY@Jul 28 2005, 06:49 PM
basically i built marketplace and aqueduct (in many cities there is simply not enough time to build more* LOL )

Try another level? I can't remember lower levels that well, but I think it's on prince or king level that if you don't build temple/colosseum or cathedrals (better Michelangelo's Chapel) you'll need either:

a) very high luxury tax, not allowing your science to go up like that
b ) many entertainers, basically rendering aqueduct useless since there won't be enough farmers to get enough food to sustain a bigger city.


Edit: Oh you mean after Christ. Sorry, in my language AD is before christ, confused me.
What's so amazing with it then? I'm very expansionist and perfeccionist and I manage to have perfect cities all over the world and still have future technologies around 1800. If I cut on some buildings (which I build only to complete the town - like my last lines would ever need fortresses all around, sdi defenses, and having coastal fortresses and port facilities on lake cities :whistle: ) I think I could get it around 1500. (Europe and World map only - Emperor level).

Tip: Sahara desert and engineers create perfect cities that computer doesn't ocupy, no matter how long you take to get there k:

[blastradius14]

Yeah, them people get REALLY unhappy without those buildings. Unless, of course, your government is Fundamentalism. At that size, it doesn't matter because your science will be good anyway.

[gregor]

I just went through th egame and the most dissapointing thing is in the end. there is no log or that cool nice map which shows how things developed over time. i think they fixed this in CIV 3 along with some other things.

I also didn't like the way some computer players treat you - keep breaking the peace, so i did the same to them. suckers!!!

One thing i am still not clear (and this goes way back to firct version fo this great game ) is i am not sure if you can stop or reverse the process of global warming. Well can it be stopped or reversed??? because it prevents you from continuing the game a bit longer and have some fun with it.

i tried once in original CIV to build forests and recycling centers along with mass trasit werte buit before any factories. it didn't help though.

Is Alpha Centauri abandoned? i guess not but i am hoping it is. so is it?

Originally posted by blastradius14@Jul 28 2005, 09:33 PM
I would use a fixed seed, then make a map from scratch. Only use wine hill squares for trade as it has the best food/production/trade output. If you only build cities where you can get all 4 resources, then you should have either wine or gold for moneys. the other squares should have like 1 or 2 hills, then all grassland. Fill all squares with river and your trade will be uber with democracy, or republic. More so with democracy, no corruption* k:

wine is a good idea regarding trade. i used buffaloes, it gives more shields, and wheat for more food. probably the best is a mixture of all three. the rest is grassland with river everywhere :-). the most important thing is to get as many and big cities as possible. yes i used democracy, i think its the best for this try.


@lethe
in my country we use the following:
ad = anno domini (latin) = in the year of the lord, means after christ was born
v. chr. = vor christus (german) = before christ was born (i think its b.c. in english, isnt it?)

i dont exactly know what you want to say with your post.
i just wanted to make a fun game. my goal was to reach 1st future technology, throne finished, all wonders, the great as soon as possible. this can best be done on chieftain level. on other levels the time goes too fast. i posted my first try. for my best results look some posts earlier :-)

[blastradius14]

Can't wait till Civ4 comes out, can you?

You can't be the barbarians on a LAN game.

If you mean in Civilization II, no. You can be them through the cheat menu, though. Not that it makes the game any interesting...