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Old 09-08-2005, 03:36 AM   #671
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Whoa. That one word has 20 letters? Dang, is lithuanian that more complicated?
schtrutzkampgeschwader? that's german.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:43 AM   #672
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Originally posted by a1s+Aug 8 2005, 10:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (a1s @ Aug 8 2005, 10:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-blastradius14@Aug 9 2005, 03:14 AM
Whoa. That one word has 20 letters? Dang, is lithuanian that more complicated?
schtrutzkampgeschwader? that's german. [/b][/quote]
Is german that more complicated, then? :blink:
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:57 AM   #673
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no, they just like composing words, f.e.: sexhundertzeinundzwanzig translates to four words- six hundered twenty one.
I believe Strutzkampgeschwader is something along the lines of fighter-bomber squadron (I have no Idea what struz- means)
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Old 09-08-2005, 07:31 AM   #674
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I believe Strutzkampgeschwader is something along the lines of fighter-bomber squadron (I have no Idea what struz- means)
It's "Sturzkampfgeschwader", actually. "Geschwader" is a squadron, "Kampf" means fight and "stürzen" means to dive down, so I'd assume it's a fighter squadron that dives down somehow. I'm sure Fruit Pie Jones can give you a more sophisticated explanation.
I think it was usually shortened to "Stuka", because "Sturzkampfgeschwader" really is a bit of a mouthful - even by German standards.
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Old 09-08-2005, 08:25 AM   #675
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oh, must be a squadron of dive bombers then (it was a class of small frame bombers [only 50% larger than the averge fighter] that used vertical "diving" to achieve supersonic speeds as well as increased precision, they were invented in late 30s and are obsolete now)
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Old 09-08-2005, 10:38 AM   #676
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Sturzkampfgeschwader are those fighting squadrons that drop bombs while diving to the obejctive. Menaing a lot of bombs will hit just one objective ... German words are quite cool:

Zugführerkissenüberzugsherstellungsfirmenmitarbeit erin for example ... You can just combine any words you like to form a new word ...

But sorry! This is a bit
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:13 PM   #677
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Stuka is actually short for sturzkampfflugzeug, which literally translates to "falling fighting flying apparatus," but means, in essence, "dive bomber." (Love those German compound words!) So yeah, a sturzkampfgeschwader is a dive-bomber squadron.

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oh, must be a squadron of dive bombers then (it was a class of small frame bombers [only 50% larger than the averge fighter] that used vertical "diving" to achieve supersonic speeds as well as increased precision, they were invented in late 30s and are obsolete now)
Stukas (specifically referring to Junkers Ju-87s, not dive bombers in general) never went supersonic - not even close. Their rated dive speed was 550-600 km/h, depending on the model. The speed of sound is roughly 1200 km/h at sea level, and while it does decrease with altitude, it doesn't decrease nearly enough for the Stuka to approach it. In fact, the Stuka (like other dive bombers) had dive brakes to keep it from going too fast in a dive, lest it plow straight into the ground. You are correct that the technique of dive bombing was devised to give greater precision; in the days of primitive bombsights, dive bombing was much more accurate than level bombing. The main drawback was that each plane couldn't carry very much ordnance.

Yeah, I'm wandering further from the topic...
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:16 PM   #678
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where in the world is Ca... I mean L O L?
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Old 09-08-2005, 06:18 PM   #679
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Stuka is actually short for sturzkampfflugzeug, which literally translates to "falling fighting flying apparatus," but means, in essence, "dive bomber." (Love those German compound words!) So yeah, a sturzkampfgeschwader is a dive-bomber squadron.

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oh, must be a squadron of dive bombers then (it was a class of small frame bombers [only 50% larger than the averge fighter] that used vertical "diving" to achieve supersonic speeds as well as increased precision, they were invented in late 30s and are obsolete now)
Stukas (specifically referring to Junkers Ju-87s, not dive bombers in general) never went supersonic - not even close. Their rated dive speed was 550-600 km/h, depending on the model. The speed of sound is roughly 1200 km/h at sea level, and while it does decrease with altitude, it doesn't decrease nearly enough for the Stuka to approach it. In fact, the Stuka (like other dive bombers) had dive brakes to keep it from going too fast in a dive, lest it plow straight into the ground. You are correct that the technique of dive bombing was devised to give greater precision; in the days of primitive bombsights, dive bombing was much more accurate than level bombing. The main drawback was that each plane couldn't carry very much ordnance.

Yeah, I'm wandering further from the topic...
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Old 10-08-2005, 07:10 AM   #680
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just a reminder: 24 hours are allready up, and turn can be taken.
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