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[ReamusLQ]

simple! Just don't have sex before you're married! :w00t: what a thought!!!!!!

[Blood-Pigggy]

Um, yeah...
My thought on the issue is that it's not overall someone's right to ban women from having abortions, it's a matter of choice, no matter how wrong it is.

And what's with that one occurence where a so-called "Christian who has sworn to God to obey all 10 Commandments" bombed a abortion clinic?

Oxymoronic idiots.

[Puffin]

Originally posted by Tulac@Sep 7 2005, 08:06 PM
I'd allow abortion because an unwanted baby would have an unhappy life, and there are many children that are waiting for being adopted...

This is exactly the way I see it.




Btw, the worst 2 weeks of my life were when I thought I was pregnant. I always have safe sex, I've never done it without protections. But it's not 100%.
I'm not ready to quit school to look after a small human being, and I don't trust myself to give it all my attention and love right now.
But I definitly see myself having a baby in few years

[blastradius14]

Glad I won't have that problem... Is that kind of like when you drink like 5 gallons of orange juice in less than a day you show effects of a diabetic? For a week at least...


If they make abortions illegal, then the next generation will be afraid to have sex... or at least the responsible ones.

[Himmler]

If they make abortions illegal, then the next generation will be afraid to have sex

wrong! everything that is illegal will attract more people to it..that's what i think.and u cannot make someone carry a baby that doesn't want one..why should anyone be obligated to keep the baby?if i don't want it i chop it untill it doesn't get "unaborted" :P
I think that abortion should be illegal if we were about to dissapear from this planet..but as we grow larger i think we should be embracing the abortion and think about safe sex...
i guess people who are opposing abortion are ..no..ethical?was that the word? :eeeeeh:

[blastradius14]

It's hard to say; simply due to the fact that if they are saying no, they are controlling the freedoms of a citizen under a "Democratic" government; and if they say yes they are killing another human being. However, abortions can happen so early in development that you are removing just a little pest instead of a miraculous living creature. They are as stupid and helpless as a plant at that point, and at most situations they die on contact with the foreign removal object. Think of it as killing a growth; what if the government said that your skin tag was too big to be removed? Or that you did not have the right to remove a wart? If it's still connected to you you are killing a part of yourself, no? People do that everyday with drugs and alcohol, smoking...

[laiocfar]

Hi lads,
Another point is that cristian organisations and church also make sabotage of safe sex programs.
The real problem is if we can say thatl the no-born baby (translation of feto needed) is human life. If we can call it human life, it get all rights of a living person an only in a few special situations you can abort it.

[BeefontheBone]

(translation of feto needed)

foetus. or fetus for americans. the word for a "no-born" baby is unborn, too.

Personally I'm in favour of teaching contraception and safe sex rather than abstinence (the figures from many american studies incontavertably prove that teaching exclusively abstinence leads to increased rates of pregnancy and STDs among teenagers) and in favour of abortion if that's what a woman wants (though I refuse to use the term "pro-choice", mainly because it implicitly aknowledges the validity of the disgusting anti-liberal rightwing term "pro-life", as if people who are in favour of abortion are ANTI-life. Blech!). Obviously there needs to be a limit on how late a termination can be carried out (for non-medical reasons), as there is now.

If a zygote is a human life it can only be said to be one in potentia since there's no way to guarantee its survival, so by extension every sperm and egg in the body is equally a life in potentia, in which case any menstrual cycle in which you are not impregnated and every ejaculation outside a vagina can be considered as murder (mass murder in the latter case) - a foetus can't really be considered a human being with full rights until it reaches the point where it has a significant chance of survival outside of the womb, which is around about where the current limit for abortion is in most countries that allow it at all. This is getting earlier as time goes by with advances in medicine, but there will come a point where that halts - and the question of whether we even need or want to go that far is another one entirely.

[Himmler]

u're not killig another person blas u're killing an embrio..that's not a human being a human being is a man with his own culture and understanding of his environment.I don't think that if u were a girl and was in that situation u would of kept it...

If a zygote is a human life it can only be said to be one in potentia since there's no way to guarantee its survival, so by extension every sperm and egg in the body is equally a life in potentia, in which case any menstrual cycle in which you are not impregnated and every ejaculation outside a vagina can be considered as murder (mass murder in the latter case) - a foetus can't really be considered a human being with full rights until it reaches the point where it has a significant chance of survival outside of the womb, which is around about where the current limit for abortion is in most countries that allow it at all. This is getting earlier as time goes by with advances in medicine, but there will come a point where that halts - and the question of whether we even need or want to go that far is another one entirely.

well said

[Blood-Pigggy]

It's more of a Christian belief that it's wrong to abort.
Actually any religion that believes in souls.

Even though it's barely developed, the soul is already there, and it's killing a human being.