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[moogle]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone+Dec 10 2005, 07:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BeefontheBone @ Dec 10 2005, 07:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moogle@Dec 10 2005, 06:15 PM
Your mother is a hampster and your father a horse!

He smells of elderberries, surely? Incidentally, that was off-topic, and your signature is ridiculously massive.

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Yes, it was off topic, and I'm keeping the sig until a mod yells at me, bwahah, such a rebelious moogle...

[efthimios]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone+Dec 10 2005, 08:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (BeefontheBone @ Dec 10 2005, 08:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-moogle@Dec 10 2005, 06:15 PM
Your mother is a hampster and your father a horse!

He smells of elderberries, surely? Incidentally, that was off-topic, and your signature is ridiculously massive.

@efthemios - you've been playing Civ 4, that quote (or a slightly different wording) is used in the game for, erm, Democracy or something.

My probelm with the issue is not so much the relaxing of liberties to gain security, it's the HUGE degree to which liberties are eroded for the tiniest increase in ILLUSORY security. I'll take my chances, thanks, if it means I don't have to see millions of pounds' worth of taxpayers' money, plus some of my own, wasted on a piece of plastic I have to carry round so everyone and his mother can gather information about me under the pretense of protecting me from terrorists. Please. [/b][/quote]
No I am not playing Civ 4. I don't even have the game.

[allyfaucet]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Dec 10 2005, 03:59 PM
Subject: Should a democracy forsake some of its democratic liberties to its people for the sake of security?

That is SO Thomas Hobbes :P

I'm ready to watch! er....read!!

[Havell]

Originally posted by moogle+Dec 10 2005, 11:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (moogle @ Dec 10 2005, 11:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

He smells of elderberries, surely? Incidentally, that was off-topic, and your signature is ridiculously massive.

Yes, it was off topic, and I'm keeping the sig until a mod yells at me, bwahah, such a rebelious moogle... [/b][/quote]
GET A SMALLER SIGNATURE!!!

Enough?

[BeefontheBone]

Erm, isn't yours several lines of text over, too? (Still off, topic, incidentally).

[n1nj4s0ur]

PEEPEE

[Havell]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone@Dec 11 2005, 01:38 AM
Erm, isn't yours several lines of text over, too? (Still off, topic, incidentally).

Casual hypocrisy is the best perk a mod gets.

[Kearnsy]

Originally posted by n1nj4s0ur@Dec 11 2005, 01:39 AM
PEEPEE

Ha! Well, your screwed now Tulac you cant argue with a point like that!

[Tulac]

Thanks for spamming this up guys, good job! k:
Mods can close it...

[Havell]

Nah, no need for a close.

Just a warning that I'm going to draw a line, past that line the only posts allowed are debate points by Tulac and The Chosen on Stroggy's issue and any RELAVENT and USEFUL comments or pint from the floor (ie, other people, anyone breaking these rules will be expelled from the deabte (ie, told to go away on pain of something horrible that I haven't thought of yet).

I'll chair the debate if you like. I've been I my school's debating club for about two years.

Anyway, this is the line:

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