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Old 11-12-2005, 01:22 PM   #21
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Can we choose another subject? I cant be against the liberty!
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:28 PM   #22
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No you're for the liberty and I'm against(although not really), but the point of debating is to defend the stance even if you don't agree with it...
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:42 PM   #23
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I see.....

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Democracy should forsake some of it's democratic liberties, because it is only natural to expect that people will trust those that they have voted for, especially in critical situations...
Of course the leader should know where to draw the line of him misusing his authorities...
No! Democracy is about liberty and freedom. People need liberties. We cant give whole power to the corrupted goverment!
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:43 PM   #24
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Well why do you elect government if it is corrupted?
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Old 11-12-2005, 01:46 PM   #25
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Because people dont have noticed the corrupted goverment.
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:24 PM   #26
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What if there are major riots, and mayhem would you still allow people to be out during the night? Or would you try to preventing it with a police watch?
If the government is corrupt then all the civic liberties are useless anyway, beacuse they will be ruined, and in democracy(and we are talking about democracy not about dictatorship) corrupt governments don't last long...
The point of the democracy is for people to choose someone they can trust, someone to whom they are willing to give power, they sure should be able to tell if they're courrupted or not...
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Old 11-12-2005, 02:34 PM   #27
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People become corrupted after they have been chosen and when they noticed the powers that they have.

Corrupted goverments dont last long? Just look at the America!

And for the riot: People have freedom to do everything they want.


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Old 11-12-2005, 02:43 PM   #28
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And for the riot: People have freedom to do everything they want.
Oh so you have freedom to kill your next door neighbour becasue he looked at you the wrong way? You have the right to burn your neighbours car, because your not happy with your paycheck? I don't think so...

And about America, hmm OK their government is corrupted you say... How have they become the worlds leading power? Through inner stability, that is one of the most important things in democracy...

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Old 11-12-2005, 03:01 PM   #29
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They have freedom to do anything they want, but theyre resbonsible....

America grew strong because of money and people´s fear against the goverment.
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Old 11-12-2005, 04:35 PM   #30
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Oh yes riots in France were a true evidence of citizens responisibility, you wouldn't believe how many people act unresponsible, how many thieves and thugs are among us...

America grew strong because of money? OK so money didn't exist before America? They invented it? :blink:




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