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[Chuck the plant]

Himmler, whatever you might find there, you'll find it just as bad - if not worse - in the bible.

P.S.: Translations of translations (of translations?) are sure to be a very reliable and firts-hand source of information... k:

[Himmler]

Originally posted by Chuck the plant@Feb 7 2006, 01:37 AM
Himmler, whatever you might find there, you'll find it just as bad - if not worse - in the bible.

P.S.: Translations of translations (of translations?) are sure to be a very reliable and firts-hand source of information... k:

it's not worse believe me....and it is taken from the coran...from someone who studied it

[Chuck the plant]

You mean it's not worse than the bible? LOL

I'm not surprised.

[Yobor]

Muslims are just like anybody else. Saying Christians shouldn't stand for people mocking Jesus is foolish. It's HARMLESS. And It's free speech. What MUSLIMS should do is make a cartoon of Judas a Jesus in a homosexual encounter... that'd set Christians on fire!

And, The Qur'an is most definitely NOT all about violence. Mohammed (May peace be upon him) specifically tells people not to harm women and children, and to help others. Violence is a must in self-defense, something Mohammed recognises and Jesus does not.

[Himmler]

Originally posted by Yobor@Feb 7 2006, 01:43 AM
Muslims are just like anybody else. Saying Christians shouldn't stand for people mocking Jesus is foolish. It's HARMLESS. And It's free speech. What MUSLIMS should do is make a cartoon of Judas a Jesus in a homosexual encounter... that'd set Christians on fire!

And, The Qur'an is most definitely NOT all about violence. Mohammed (May peace be upon him) specifically tells people not to harm women and children, and to help others. Violence is a must in self-defense, something Mohammed recognises and Jesus does not.

then some muslims miss-interpred it...

you are right with the jessus cartoon..but i don't think they have any talent
P.S.: i didn't saw any students in the crowd...why is that

the most lame thing in the protest was one who had wrote "F#(% freedom of speech ...or something like that

[Yobor]

Wow that's heavy. DEFINITELY people mis-interperet it. Only 1% of Muslims, or less, are that fanatically conservative.

What do you mean they don't have talent?

[Himmler]

Originally posted by Yobor@Feb 7 2006, 02:00 AM
Wow that's heavy. DEFINITELY people mis-interperet it. Only 1% of Muslims, or less, are that fanatically conservative.

What do you mean they don't have talent?

maybe they can't draw jesus raping a donkey cause they don't have the "training" although the cartoons were actually lacking of any quality...
some just chose the wrong handling of the situation...they could do something legally to protest to those cartoons..

[Yobor]

Hopefully, they couldn't. It's all a big fuss over nothing. It's a cartoon. I just drew a picture of Jesus having sex with a donkey, per your example. It's easy. It's free speech, the right to say what you want

[Himmler]

Originally posted by Yobor@Feb 7 2006, 02:09 AM
Hopefully, they couldn't. It's all a big fuss over nothing. It's a cartoon. I just drew a picture of Jesus having sex with a donkey, per your example. It's easy. It's free speech, the right to say what you want

i completely agree with you...at least it gave us something to debate on LOL ...and made me realise that everybody(almost) miss-interpret a religion...even some of it's own adepts

...that being said... i wish you all a good night...it's 4:14 AM and i must get some sleep.
see you! k:

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Himmler@Feb 7 2006, 03:35 AM
This one sais that muslims must kill all who are not converting to muslim(called the pagans)

I'm on the way to work and don't have much time to reply to everything (but reading this I really should respond at this point).

This translation is nothing but bullsh*t.
Muslims have respect for other religions. Koran doesn't say kill those who do not convert to Islam. It states that all who follow God are God's people. So all who follow the book (be it Thora - Jewish, Bible - Christian, or Koran - Islam) are God's people. And they also adopted the words to Paganism, for when they encountered a cultural clash with India (when the Mogul empire was established in the Indus valley) they accepted Polytheism with written accounts as well.

And in the time when Christian Europe was burning people for being heretics (not listening to the church) Islam allowed christian churches to freely live on in the heart of their theritory.

So cut the bullsh*t about Koran telling Muslim to kill (or even allow to kill) non-Muslims.