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Ok...I don't get it. I'm following the info on the wiki. I'm still not able to get these stupid bone hole sutures to work.

When I try to drill a hole it just tells me I missed the bone flap.

What am I doing wrong? I can get to the part where I pull off the bone flap easily enough. However once I get it removed I have all kinds of bleeders that I can't stop, no matter what I try.

I can stop a few of them with the bone wax, but the ones on the dura mater won't stop. The electrocauterizer doesn't seem to do anything. I can't even tell which end of the thing I'm supposed to use. It has two prongs on the left side, and I guess I'm supposed to center it over the bleeder, but that never does anything.

The only way I can stop the bleeding is to cheat and put the bone flap back in, close the skin flap and then reopen it. That seems like it tricks the computer into forgetting about the bleeders.

AFter that I smooth out the rough edges of the bone, drill away the sphenoid ridge and all is well up to this point.

I put the needle drill bit on, slide the metal ribbon under the edge of the bone and try to do what is shown on the wiki.

I can't for the life of me get it to let me drill a hole that is actually all the way on the bone. It just says I've missed the bone flap...but that can't be right because the bone flap is on the tray!

The only side I can get is the upper left side, as it has a fairly exposed piece of bone on the edge. The other 3 sides don't show that "white part" though.

I can drill holes close to the edge, but as soon as I remove the ribbon, 90% of the hole goes away and I'm left with a little black speck on the edge of the bone. I can't get sutures through them. I can sometimes get a suture into the one on the upper left, but nowhere else. Not even in the middle of the dura mater.

Can anyone advise me a little here?

The original game poster of this game in magazines across the UK had a cartoon of a typical english Yorkshireman performing an Autopsy on a sheep, very apt. Sold very well in england due to this.
Game runs smoother without sound pause in parts using realmode dos 7.1

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I answered my own question. There is a bug in the version of this game as posted on this site.

It has to do with the sound card of all things. I followed this link which another submitter already has posted:
http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?...38e313c3d3bc875

And I followed its instructions. It requires you to locate an uncracked version of this game. They mention where you can find it, but do not specifically link to it, nor will I.

You need to use the following command to mount the folder with the game installer as a floppy disk within dosbox.

mount a <path to directory> -t floppy

mount c c:\dosbox

Note: instead of c:\dosbox you can use whatever directory you want.

Then you run the install.exe from the A: drive, and install the game using the PC Speaker rather than soundblaster audio. You also have to use the EMS/XMS option for graphics. The problem with the cracked version of this game is that it is set up for soundblaster audio, and DOSbox doesn't do well with that apparently.

You do still need the original LD2.exe from this site, however, as it has cracked the copy protection. Just replace that one file after installing the game and you'll be all set. Mine is working perfectly now.

I can drill suture holes just fine...although I havne't successfully completed the operation yet...I forgot to induce hypotension before I manhandled the brain...doh. Oh well, it works now, and the audio is MUCH better.

Rant:
Dang, am I the only one annoyed with the glaringly terrible mechanic? The whole point of the "diagnostic" part of the game is to get better at recognizing illness. So why does the game NOT reward you for increased skill by letter you skip the boring parts of the diagnostic? If I think he's a cocaine addict, I I'm going to want to spend my time poking his foot with a needle, I want to treat him and move on! Sure, by jumping to the treatment I might miss something critical and misdiagnose him. . . I WANT the option of failing!

Arrgh, just got sent back to class because I didnt test her knee reflexes. Thats it! I tested her arm reflexes and everything else! GEERR!

Bad designer! Bad!

[Nazdak]

Here's what I did, step by step, exactly, for utter newbies.

Step one- Download the abandonia version. Dont bother with putting it into your DOSBox directory, all you need from the download is a single file; the LD2.exe

Step two- Get the "other" version of the game, in addition to abandonia's. The "other" version is a zip file inside an RAR file. Extract the files inside the ZIP into a non-compressed folder.

Three- Go into dosbox. Type "mount a <the address you extracted the "other" file to; for example c:\hotu\LD2>

Four- In dosbox, navigate to the folder you extracted the "other" files to. Run "install.exe" by typing "install" into the dosbox prompt and hitting enter. It'll ask you some questions. Yes, you have VGA. PC Sounds, please. Load the sounds into XMS/EM. Install to hard disk. Install from the A drive. I dont think it matters what size of disk you say. It should ask you to insert disk 1, disk 2, etc. Just hit any key to continue. WHen youre done, it should be installed into "c:\LD2". . . actually it will be whatever folder you told dosbox to mount as your C drive. For me, I told dosbox to mount my (actual) c:\DOS\CDRIVE folder as my C drive, so the "other" version of the game got installed into my (actual) c:\DOS\CDRIVE\LD2 folder. Make sense?

Now, in windows, go back to the first file you downloaded, from abandonia. Take the file install.exe and copy it into the (actual) folder that the "other" game installed to. For me, I took the install.exe from the abandonia version and copied it into c:\dos\cdrive\LD2. REPLACE the existing file with the new one you're copying over.

Now, to run the game. Get into dosbox. In your default directory should be a folder "LD2". Open it, and type LD2 to run the game.



... I think. k:

Thanks to Alkarion at http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopi...8e313c3d3bc875 and defeodation here at abandonia for the instructions.

I've already had all the other problems everyone else had and I was able to fix them all per your instructions. Now I have a new problem.
Whenever I am performing a tumor/aneurysm operation, when I get to the part where I have to cut the dura mater with the scalp (after I've drilled the holes e did the sutures) the game simply freezes and I can't do anything. What now?

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I've already had all the other problems everyone else had and I was able to fix them all per your instructions. Now I have a new problem.
Whenever I am performing a tumor/aneurysm operation, when I get to the part where I have to cut the dura mater with the scalp (after I've drilled the holes e did the sutures) the game simply freezes and I can't do anything. What now?
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I was encountering the same problem. It still happens to me occasionally, but I've found that I can avoid it by going into the game options (from your office in the hospital, on the desk, on one of the clipboards) and disabling the audio. I also mute the audio on my computer, but I don't know if that's necessary.

It was freezing on me almost every time exactly as I cut most of the way through the dura mater.

Also, I still have the same problem as many others on this forum about putting the bone flap back on after drilling suture holes in it. The easy work around has already been mentioned, but all you have to do is not put the bone flap back in until you are closing. As long as you have put suture holes and suture strings into the skull, you can drill the holes in the flap when you put it back in to close up.


I just finished my first brain tumor surgery a minute ago. Can you believe the only thing that kept me out of the honor roll was a messy application of iodine?!?!

Tumor surgery isn't too hard. I used the wiki as a general guide, but the in game instructions are pretty good. First time through I accidentally went to +24, -12 instead of +24, +12 on the microscope. They kicked me out after I sucked half the patients brain out trying to find that damn tumor.


Here's a neat trick that I haven't seen mentioned here, but maybe I just missed it. If you fail a surgery, don't go to class, just close DosBox and start the game over. It will tell you to go to school once you're back in, and after you click through the slides it will tell you that you're wanted in the OR. Go into the OR and you get to repeat your last surgery.

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Ok...I took a little hiatus from this game cause it was driving me nuts, but I couldn't stay away...I had to finish every operation successfully. And I have...but the game is still trying to thwart me.

I finished the tumor op no problem...took a few tries and I accidentally sucked the guys brains out of the wrong spot once...but I got it and I am in the hall of fame. Hematoma operation is a snap...no problem at all.

I can get the aneurysm, clamp it off, close up the skull same as the tumor operation...but when I get done I get this message: "Shouldn't this operation have taken longer?"

Then I get booted out, and the chief tells me that if I hadn't been so worried about what I was making for dinner that night, or something, that I would have remembered to clamp off the aneurysm. But I did that! The clamp went on! I didn't get any message saying that I had done it successfully...but I did it! The clamp goes on and you can't take it off again. So I just removed the retractors and closed. Every time I finish the operation this is what happens!

So I've beaten this game...yet I haven't...because it's still giving me crap about not finishing the aneurysm. I want the satisfaction of having my name on that hall of fame plaque.

Has this happened to anyone else?

this happened to me during surgery also, i turned off the sound and music and it worked perfectly

I really enjoy this game but now it just keeps locking up at the same time. I'm doing the tumor op, and when I begin cutting the dura, I loose all mouse control. Im using dos box, and i can actually get it to work a little bit byusing the arrows on the keyboard to control the cursor, but your really need mouse control on this game. Any advice?