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hi, i have a little problem. After kidnapping Fremen chick, they say that i have to send spies. In walktrough i read that i should recruit them (these spies) before kidnapping. There are fremens which should agree, they live in one sietch on north-west (?), but they don't want to be in army. What to do? Game is great, i spent long night hours playing it. I really like it and i'd like to finish it.

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[Incappucciato d'Ombra]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Mar 30 2007, 12:16 AM) [snapback]285494[/snapback]</div>

hi, i have a little problem. After kidnapping Fremen chick, they say that i have to send spies. In walktrough i read that i should recruit them (these spies) before kidnapping. There are fremens which should agree, they live in one sietch on north-west (?), but they don't want to be in army. What to do? [/b]

First of all : any fremen unit can be assigned to military enviroment, then must be trained (very well, especially for espionage purposes) and armed, then simply select the option "espionage", available if there is Haarkonnen fortress in the vicinity (with only excepition for those fortress discovered after Haarkonnen's Captain interrogation). You can chose even fremen unit already assigned to Spice or Ecology, no need of particular fremen unit (exception : you have lost so many fremen unit and the other have no notice, telepatic or by talking with them on sietch, from you for so many time that they completely lost faith in you... well, restart game is the better solution, pheraphs the only).

Now, the only kidnapping in the game is the kidnapping of Kynes Daughter (if not, my brain is becoming like a decomposed amoeba, because i replayed Dune just few months ago) do you means this when you talk of "Fremen chick" ? I think yes, even because the Mentat tell to send spies in two occasion, about after training the firsts combat fremen units (but without using them to attack Haarkonnen) , and when Kynes Daughter has been kidnapped. In this case you can chose any of your fremen units or (if absolutely needed for spice) look around for new sietch, it's easy figure where can be found, just compare the terrain in the main screen with the spice map. (or restart game as i already wrote )

Another thing : "they live in one sietch on north west" but from where ? :blink: The Main Palace? a particular sietch? If the first part of my post isn't of help give us more details

[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Incappucciato d'Ombra @ Mar 30 2007, 06:25 AM) [snapback]285511[/snapback]</div>

Another thing : "they live in one sietch on north west" but from where ? :blink: The Main Palace? a particular sietch? [/b]

From the Sietch the Fremen who tells you that is currently in.
Example: You are in Tuono-Timin and the Fremen tells you "there's a sietch not far from here north-westward" then you grab your Orni and fly northeastward. This is offered in the map.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Icewolf @ Mar 30 2007, 11:27 AM) [snapback]285523[/snapback]</div>

From the Sietch the Fremen who tells you that is currently in.
Example: You are in Tuono-Timin and the Fremen tells you "there's a sietch not far from here north-westward" then you grab your Orni and fly northeastward. This is offered in the map.
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Sure, but in game. The guest seems to refer to walktrough, who tell him step by step what to do (perhaps missing some steps.. so another suggestion can be : it's better if you change walktrough :blink: )

thanks a lot Incappucciato d'Ombra, your advice helped me a lot.
Under "fremen chick" I meant Chani or Chiani. I'm not good in remembering names. And she was kidnapped by Vladimir (sounds very similar to me).
Ok, I have to go, bye

[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Incappucciato d'Ombra @ Mar 30 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]285548[/snapback]</div>

Sure, but in game. The guest seems to refer to walktrough, who tell him step by step what to do (perhaps missing some steps.. so another suggestion can be : it's better if you change walktrough :blink: )[/b]

Oh, now I got it.
He has to find Stilgar before he can send out spies or even educate military troops.
You should just talk to everybody in the palace and you'll get forward.

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Apr 1 2007, 02:36 PM) [snapback]285760[/snapback]</div>

Under "fremen chick" I meant Chani or Chiani. I'm not good in remembering names.[/b]

She is the daughter of Kines the Planetologue
The problem, for me, is that i'm italian and babelfish translate "chick" as italian term for "son of a chicken" ( :blink: ) and a normal dictionary give me the same result, or the italian term for "child" (and in that case also "son" can be used).
As i already wrote, i had thought to Chani, but a BIG ALARM has begun to play on my mind :

"i'm missing something? it's possible that Paul & Chani could make a son... and i don't discover this part of the game? I need to investigate on this ! " (i always play all games, even Dune, dozen & dozen times but, especially in RPG games, is always possible miss something).

[The Fifth Horseman]

"i'm missing something? it's possible that Paul & Chani could make a son... and i don't discover this part of the game? I need to investigate on this ! brain_ph34r.gif " (i always play all games, even Dune, dozen & dozen times but, especially in RPG games, is always possible miss something).[/b]

I don't think so.

[Dave]

unfortunatly it's impossible...have you read the Herbert's books?
The story says that Paul & Chani makes two children (Leto II and Ghanima) after he became blind....have you seen him blind??

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(David86 @ Apr 2 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]285953[/snapback]</div>

unfortunatly it's impossible...
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*disguised like Agent 007*
Never say never
In Dune 2 (and, if i remember well, in other sequels to this mythical RTS game) there are Ordos... but they has never been mentioned in any of the original novels. :bleh:

It is not therefore possible to exclude "literary licences" also in Dune, but :
1) the "fremen chick" cited by the guest is Chani (so no child, son or similar)
2) the game's structure is quite simple, basically an action trigger an event and the actions are simple. In this condition is very difficult to miss something.

So, i agree with The Fifth Horseman : I don't think so. After about 15 year from the release, it's impossible that someone has not found still nothing.